Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
instead of the web site?
Jeff S.
(D.B.A. CookingWithGas on the Straight Dope boards)
>I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
>this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
>thriving and healthy.
>
>Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
>is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
>exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>instead of the web site?
For me, it's simply that I greatly prefer the medium of Usenet over
web forums, and so found this place first, and kept returning.
Now I know and adore (most of) this community. I just don't know the
people over on your side.
Like an old shoe, it's comfortable. Moving to another group would be
like breaking in a new shoe - it takes a while to get used to, can
involve discomfort, and you never really know if it's worth the effort
until you're done.
Mike
"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life."
- Eric Hoffer
> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
> this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
> thriving and healthy.
>
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
I loathe web sites in general and web forums in particular.
--
Nick Spalding
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
Uhh, becuase _all_ web-based message boards suck?
John
--
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts are unwelcome.
Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
Ask me about joining the NRA.
Because web forums are horribly awkward to navigate and read. Whomever came
up with the idea of the web forum was trying to reinvent the wheel that is
Usenet.
To assume that some newsgroups persist simply because no one's bothered to
make a web-based version is missing the point entirely. I especially loathe
the web forums in which someone posts a question, then 600 people respond to
that person and to each other and it just lists each post in the order in
which it was received. I've always thought that that was kind of like saving
every file on your computer at "C:\" and trying to make sense of it.
--
tooloud
Remove nothing to reply
> CookingWithGas wrote:
>
>>I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years
>>ago. I gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site,
>>and have forsaken this group. Until today. I was mildly
>>surprised to find it so thriving and healthy.
>>
>>Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based
>>community that is focused on the special interest, but this
>>would seem to be an exception. So anybody who would like to
>>share why they use this group instead of the web site?
>
> For me, it's simply that I greatly prefer the medium of Usenet
> over web forums, and so found this place first, and kept
> returning.
Same here. Web forums make you use their interface no matter how bad
it is; with usenet *I* get to choose an interface, and can switch
anytime I find one I like better.
> Now I know and adore (most of) this community. I just don't
> know the people over on your side.
Leroy.
CookingWithGas wrote:
> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
> this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
> thriving and healthy.
>
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
I showed up here first, and had so much fun I saw no need to look further.
Dana
Learn to put a couple of fucking dashes and a fucking space before your
sig, you worthless limber-dicked cocksucker.
Now, see, that was exactly what I intended to say, and I've said it,
and you can read it. On a web forum there's a moderator or someone, a
sort of second grade teacher keeping us all civil; I see that on the
SDMB there's a computerized replacement of all my expressive language
with nice ******s, in an attempt to make people like me appear civil.
I don't want to be made to appear civil. If I choose to be civil to
you, it means I want to be civil. It does not mean some fuckstick
halfwit has forced me to be civil. So fuck 'em. Fuck 'em in the goat
ass.
This sort of thing is inheret in the nature of web forums, though.
There's always a moderator, and they always end up moderating. I was a
moderator for a web forum for a few years. I didn't want to censor
anyone, I figured they could sort it out the same way we do out here.
Nope, they wanted to be censored. Crazy.
Also, when I google for and look at the SDMB, the first thing I see is
that this bastardized halfassed web based usenet parody will henceforth
be charging you sheeplike chuckleheads $15 a year to be herded around
and censored. Congrats, way to go. Hope you enjoy it.
--
Kevin
See? Like that. Fuckstick.
Hey, we're all adults here, don't sugar coat it.
--
Tim W
Too bad he's not passionate about it.
Bill "for me, it's the people" Turlock
> CookingWithGas wrote:
>
>>I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>>gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
>>this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so thriving
>>and healthy.
>>
>>Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that is
>>focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an exception.
>>So anybody who would like to share why they use this group instead of the
>>web site?
>
> For me, it's simply that I greatly prefer the medium of Usenet over web
> forums, and so found this place first, and kept returning.
There you have the simple answers: because this is NOT a clunky web-based
forum that draws clunky-web-based-forum types.
OP isn't even on my server, but I'll bet it was a Google Groups post,
right?
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
Details: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
you win. how much did you bet?
>I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
>this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
>thriving and healthy.
>
>Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
>is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
>exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>instead of the web site?
Because it's a group instead of a web site?
There are 6 posts ahead of me, and I'll bet someone else has pointed this out.
>
>Jeff S.
>
>(D.B.A. CookingWithGas on the Straight Dope boards)
--
charles, no pseudo on the DB board, oh, and you might want to adjust your
sig delimiter-there are sharks in these waters
>John Hatpin <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> For me, it's simply that I greatly prefer the medium of Usenet
>> over web forums, and so found this place first, and kept
>> returning.
>
>Same here. Web forums make you use their interface no matter how bad
>it is; with usenet *I* get to choose an interface, and can switch
>anytime I find one I like better.
I've actually used quite a lot of web forums in the past four or five
years, and some of them are almost approaching usability, at least for
short posts. None of the ones I've seen are particularly good at
mixing original content and new content unless you're doing a straight
quote of all the original text in one block and appending your reply.
The best ones I've seen are those that use the BBCode system, which
makes it pretty easy to put in links, images, font changes and so on,
using a simple HTML-like language. (Even easier to use if you've got
the BBCode extension for Firefox).
In fact, I run one such forum here:
http://s4.invisionfree.com/Kriegstanz/index.php
Don't compliment me on the look and feel: the only input I've had to
that is creating the banner graphic and setting up the various forums
and groups. A friend created the rest of the graphics, and it's all
running on InvisionFree's BBCode implementation.
But if I'd had the choice, it would have all been done on Usenet.
Two-fifty.
(I was wondering why it wasn't on my server yet. My *server* doesn't kill
GG posts; I do. And it was apparently a recent message. Guess it's just
GG being slow at propagation (zero propagation would be best); there were
replies (non GG, of course) already propagated. Eventually it'll show up,
albeit I won't see it.)
Huey? Huey...is that you?
> This sort of thing is inheret in the nature of web forums, though.
> There's always a moderator, and they always end up moderating. I was
> a moderator for a web forum for a few years. I didn't want to censor
> anyone, I figured they could sort it out the same way we do out here.
> Nope, they wanted to be censored. Crazy.
As you implied, things tend to get sorted out here just fine. Sometimes one
of us needs a good kick in the ass (myself included, on occasion...or maybe
more) and there's always someone around to administer said ass-kicking as
required. Web forums tend to remind me of...well, second-grade, as you say,
where there's always someone to step in to calm everyone down should it get
too rowdy. The real world is rowdy.
> Also, when I google for and look at the SDMB, the first thing I see is
> that this bastardized halfassed web based usenet parody will
> henceforth be charging you sheeplike chuckleheads $15 a year to be
> herded around and censored. Congrats, way to go. Hope you enjoy it.
Leroy.
I think my favorite part is the OP's admitted surprise that this NG (or any
group, for that matter) is still going strong. If you've used both and are
still confused as to why we're still here, well, me telling you the answer
probably isn't going to help you understand it any better.
Like others, I don't like Web forums in general. They're often awkward
to use and restrictive in what you can post and how you can post it.
I assume they protect you from being bothered by disturbing or
unpleasant posts, but so will valium.
But I didn't get here because I thought it was better than a Web site.
I had a look when it was mentioned favorably in another group I was
reading (afu), lurked a while, liked it and stayed. Nothing's off-topic,
you learn stuff, there's considerable wit about, even those of us who
don't like each other seem to like the community, and wait until you see
your first Groosum Mary.
bill
> In article <1138039883.1...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "CookingWithGas" <jeff....@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have
>> forsaken this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it
>> so thriving and healthy.
>>
>> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community
>> that is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
>> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this
>> group instead of the web site?
>>
>> Jeff S.
>>
>> (D.B.A. CookingWithGas on the Straight Dope boards)
>
> Like others, I don't like Web forums in general. They're often awkward
> to use and restrictive in what you can post and how you can post it.
>
> I assume they protect you from being bothered by disturbing or
> unpleasant posts, but so will valium.
>
I think it depends on the reason you're posting. There's a Yahoo
support group I read and post to sometimes. I would never use a Usenet
support group; too many evil trolls looking for people at their weakest
and most vulnerable, the better to really hurt them. But the folks on
that group aren't nearly as bright and entertaining as the ones on this
group. It all depends on what you're looking for, I think.
In general I agree with the objections to web-based boards' crummy
interfaces, though.
--
Dover
CookingWithGas wrote:
>
> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
> this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
> thriving and healthy.
>
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
>
Why would anyone want to post on a website? Web based discussions are
clunky and slow and people rarely quote and attribute even though there
are often no threads to figure out who replied to who. Your commends are
incomprehensible.
--
"He named his second child Jim after the horse that had brought him to
Washington. He caught his son one day writing 'James' on his lessons,
and he told the boy without raising his voice that if he had wanted to
name him 'James', that is what he would have done." -+Edward P. Jones,
"The Known World"
You fucking dumbass Texan asshole, why don't you use spellcheck? I bet they
woulda fixed that on SMDB for you. Asshole.
> in the nature of web forums, though.
> There's always a moderator, and they always end up moderating. I was a
> moderator for a web forum for a few years. I didn't want to censor
> anyone, I figured they could sort it out the same way we do out here.
> Nope, they wanted to be censored. Crazy.
>
> Also, when I google for and look at the SDMB, the first thing I see is
> that this bastardized halfassed web based usenet parody will henceforth
> be charging you sheeplike chuckleheads $15 a year to be herded around
> and censored. Congrats, way to go. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> --
> Kevin
> See? Like that. Fuckstick.
>
I'm here cuz Kevin is here. He makes it all worthwhile.
--
M C Hamster "Big Wheel Keep on Turnin'" -- Creedence Clearwater Revival
Some people do that and then run into the hard limit of files in the
root directory encoded when the disk was formatted.
GRRRR... I MEANT SDMB. SO MY FINGERS SLIPPED... BLOW ME!
Finger slipped my ass. Sure looks Freudian to me.
--
Tim W
As happy as an idiot in Idiotland on Idiots Get In Free Day.
> >> This sort of thing is inheret
> > ^^^
> >
> > You fucking dumbass Texan asshole, why don't you use spellcheck? I bet
> > they woulda fixed that on SMDB for you. Asshole.
> ^^^^
>
> GRRRR... I MEANT SDMB. SO MY FINGERS SLIPPED... BLOW ME!
Hey, looks like a couple of people aren't using proper fixed width fonts!
"Proportional Fonts" (ie, windows-style), ain't'nt allowed here in
usenet. Please get with the program! Give yo cell some charachter.
Fixed! Fixed!
A lot of people think everyone's looking at the same monitor.
--
Blinky T. "fixed pitch R us" Shark
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
I want to leave, I really do. I tried to make a break for it once...they
convinced me that there was a safe place I could escape to, but it wasn't
true. They have me chained to a radiator down here. It's dank, there's no
sunlight, and I'm forced to ceaslessly read all their ramblings and convert
them to machine readable form. They used to have a statistics guy here too,
but he seems to have made a break for it. I hope he can survive in the
wild, he was a good guy. Dave, I'm rootin' for ya!
I'm pretty sure it's an NSA project of some sort, but they don't really
tell me much. Well, actually they tell me a lot, but I'm convinced it's
mostly lies and half-truths. I'm trying to figure out what is real. I've
been able to infer some tidbits...I think "bicycle team" refers to a
sleeper cell, "Jeopardy" is a euphemism for heaven/paradise, "taco"s and
"elkhound"s are biological weapons, and "carbs" are infidels. They
sometimes talk about a mysterious place called "Canada" which I haven't
quite placed, but I'm thinking maybe Syria or perhaps Bali. Some of them
claim to live in places so cold that the moisture in the air actually
freezes and falls to the ground, which is obviously ridiculous (who would
live in such a climate?) but I haven't figured out what it is code for yet.
A drug deal? I'm almost certain "washing machine" refers to a suitcase
nuclear weapon. Their leader (or maybe their god) is never discussed by
name, they just call him "Leroy".
Oh, gotta go. I hear one coming. I hope it's not the short guy in the
tux...he actually thinks puns are funny. Crap, I smell curry and tobacco.
Must be the submarine freak.
--
No polar bears were harmed in the making of this .sig .
> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
> this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
> thriving and healthy.
>
> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
Primarily because it's not web-based.
Usenet rulz.
Charles
>I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
>this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
>thriving and healthy.
>
>Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
>is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
>exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>instead of the web site?
>
>Jeff S.
>
>(D.B.A. CookingWithGas on the Straight Dope boards)
I find the pay here on usenet much better.
Scott
> So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
You're freaking kidding? Right?
Every web forum I've been around ranges from tolerable to crap-tastic.
Nothing beats Usenet except "in your face".
So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> instead of the web site?
>
Because the speed and ease of use of almost any newsreader are so much better
than any message board. Web based message boards are slower with DSL than
Usenet is on dial up.
-E
I too came here via afu; I have no recollection at all of how I happened
upon afu, I know it was almost immediately after discovering usenet, which
in turn was almost immediately after getting on line at all.
--
Nick Spalding
> "CookingWithGas" <jeff....@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community
>> that is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to
>> be an exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use
>> this group instead of the web site?
>
> I want to leave, I really do. I tried to make a break for it
> once...they convinced me that there was a safe place I could
> escape to, but it wasn't true. They have me chained to a radiator
> down here. It's dank, there's no sunlight, and I'm forced to
> ceaslessly read all their ramblings and convert them to machine
> readable form. They used to have a statistics guy here too, but he
> seems to have made a break for it. I hope he can survive in the
> wild, he was a good guy. Dave, I'm rootin' for ya!
SHUT UP AND GET BACK TO WORK! I WANT THAT SUMMARY!
NOW!!!!!
--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
> There's a Yahoo
> support group I read and post to sometimes. I would never use a
> Usenet support group; too many evil trolls looking for people at
> their weakest and most vulnerable, the better to really hurt them.
This reminds me of Dogbert's Assertiveness Training Seminar. His goal
was to gather a group of weak-willed, insecure people who would do
whatever he told them to.
>
>SHUT UP AND GET BACK TO WORK! I WANT THAT SUMMARY!
>
>NOW!!!!!
We were about to ask you the same thing. How was Kansas, Dorothy?
Boron
>
>CookingWithGas wrote:
>> I was a regular on this newsgroup for a long time, many years ago. I
>> gradually shifted over to the Straight Dope web site, and have forsaken
>> this group. Until today. I was mildly surprised to find it so
>> thriving and healthy.
>>
>> Some newgroups persist because there is not a web-based community that
>> is focused on the special interest, but this would seem to be an
>> exception. So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>> instead of the web site?
>>
>> Jeff S.
>>
>> (D.B.A. CookingWithGas on the Straight Dope boards)
[snip some fucking ace stuff]
>Also, when I google for and look at the SDMB, the first thing I see is
>that this bastardized halfassed web based usenet parody will henceforth
>be charging you sheeplike chuckleheads $15 a year to be herded around
>and censored. Congrats, way to go. Hope you enjoy it.
So, it was marketing.
Maybe some will move the other way.
--
Peter
I'm an alien
e-mail: groups at asylum dot nildram dot co dot uk
This may be one of the funniest things you've ever not written.
--
"God bless those pagans!" - H. Simpson
Hey, thanks for the tip. That was really sweet.
--
K S my ass
Very lovely. Brief report avaialable in the thread named after me.
>So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
I fell into bad company.
--
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> On 23 Jan 2006 10:11:23 -0800, "CookingWithGas" <jeff....@cox.net>
> wrote in <1138039883.1...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>
> I fell into bad company.
Looks like OP was a drive-by. I don't know if that was intentional or if
he couldn't find his way back.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
Details: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>On 23 Jan 2006 10:11:23 -0800, "CookingWithGas" <jeff....@cox.net> wrote
>in <1138039883.1...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
>
>I fell into bad company.
Did they stop playing when you did that?
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:52:26 +0000, Peter Boulding wrote:
>
> > On 23 Jan 2006 10:11:23 -0800, "CookingWithGas" <jeff....@cox.net>
> > wrote in <1138039883.1...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
> >
> >>So anybody who would like to share why they use this group
> >
> > I fell into bad company.
>
> Looks like OP was a drive-by. I don't know if that was intentional or if
> he couldn't find his way back.
I hope he's at least lurking, the way we've been singing and dancing and
showin' off for him.
bill
Probably the all you can eat salad and bread sticks.
>Probably the all you can eat salad and bread sticks.
I just realized that it isn't the newsgroup that has the all you can
eat salad and bread sticks. I was confusing the group with The Olivie
Garden.
--
Jeff
At least I'm not posting from AOL
"bill van" <bil...@separatethis.canada.com> wrote in message
news:billvan-01CF36...@news.telus.net...
Uh oh, maybe you're not posting from AOL, but you're top-posting. Brace
yourself, young man, for a blistering assault from the Usenet secret police.
Grab your abu. .
I actually disappeared from here myself for two or three years, but I came
back. Fell off the wagon, you might say. But I'm thinking of disappearing
again. So I can reinvent myself. You can't reinvent yourself easily if you
don't go away for awhile. I might come back as a different animal, an
option available to me. Many are not yet taken.
So what do you like about SDMB? What do they talk about there? Do you
think there could ever be a solution to the rift between us? Are we more
like Hamas than Israel? I have this bad feeling that we are.
> I actually disappeared from here myself for two or three years, but I came
> back. Fell off the wagon, you might say. But I'm thinking of
> disappearing again. So I can reinvent myself. You can't reinvent
MC Alpaca is worth consideration.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
MC Vicun[with a tilde]a would be rarer, and hence worth more.
--
"They're smoking crack"
-- Linus Torvalds, on SCO