Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse) ever gotten a shave at a barber's (or
know someone who has)? Recently? I'm thinking that there are fewer and
fewer barbers who would offer the service.
Also, men would need shaving more frequently than haircuts, so was the
routine to shave yourself until it was time for a haircut, then get a
shave at the barbers? Was there ever a class of men who got daily shaves
from a barber?
charles, Nick Spalding is excused from this exercise, bishop
60 or so years ago I knew shopkeepers who would drop in at the
barbershop for a shave daily, and what a production it was. They'd lay
the customer back almost horizontal and plop a spiraled towel full of
steaming hot water on his mug and let it sit there for a few minutes to
soften things up. Then they'd remove it, lather his face up with a brush
and shaving mug and go at him with a straight razor, periodically
stroping the blade on a wide leather belt ("strop") about three feet
long, one end hooked to the wall, the other in the barber's free hand.
I've never gotten a barber shave, but I used to regularly get my hair
"singed" by the barber at the conclusion of a haircut. Singing seems to
be another dead art. It consisted of applying the flame from a long
skinny candle (a "taper') to the freshly cut hair ends while they were
held out with a comb, to burn off "split ends". I recall it smelled like
someone had set a feather pillow on fire.
Thanks for the mammaries,
Jef
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Life is like a sewer -- what you get out of it depends on what you put
into it."
> Driving home after a hard day yesterday, my mind wandered and this tune
> came in. From there, I remembered that I've never had a shave at a
> barber's, even when I was getting my hair cut every 3-4 weeks.
>
> Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse) ever gotten a shave at a barber's (or
> know someone who has)? Recently?
I have. Not in the last couple of years, though.
> I'm thinking that there are fewer and
> fewer barbers who would offer the service.
There are fewer and fewer barbers, period. Many barber shops have become hair
salons, and you can't get a shave at the latter.
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When I was a teenager in Ottawa (early 1960s), the barbers used a
straight razor to clean up around your neck and sideburns after
they'd finished cutting.
But more to the point: "SIX bits"???
I *definitely* learned that as "Shave and a haircut, two bits".
> Thanks for the mammaries,
Thanks for the mammaries;
That night when I came home,
And you were not alone,
You said he was a nudist
Who came in to use the 'phone...
--
Cheers,
Harvey
> Singing seems to be another dead art.
No kidding. I mean, just watch American Idol. What's with all the
melismas?[1,2]
[1] Sorry, Jeff.
[2]ObBoulding: melismata.
--
Dover
HVS wrote:
You know, I got really, really worried about breast cancer for a while
there. Couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, couldn't concentrate. My doctor
gave me some Valium. You know, tranqs for the mammaries.
Dana
>
>
Doctors like that really get on my tits.
(Has that expression -- common one in the UK, used by men as well
as women -- travelled to the US?)
--
Cheers,
Harvey
In the 1970s when I sometimes went barefaced, I had several barber
shaves. I'd do it again for an occasional treat if I didn't have a
fulltime beard. I got a closer shave with a sharp straight razor than I
got at home with either an electric razor or a safety razor. There were
very pleasant moments, such as the hot towel on the face at the start
which opens up the pores and makes your face feel grand. Having a batch
of lather prepared especially for you and applied with a soft brush is
nice. Having a guy hold a straight razor to your throat is definitely an
experience. If memory serves, there was a hot towel near the end as
well, to wipe off the remaining bits of soap. Then some kind of liquid
from a bottle -- perfumed, I think -- was slapped on to close the pores
again and off you went, face all aglow.
bill
>
> Doctors like that really get on my tits.
>
> (Has that expression -- common one in the UK, used by men as well
> as women -- travelled to the US?)
>
No. And I hope it doesn't. It doesn't even make sense.
--
Dover
Idioms don't *have* to make sense: their origins get lost in
history, and they just mean what they mean.
(Stuff like "the cat's pajamas" and "really rocks my socks", sans
the "off", didn't make a hell of a lot of sense even when they were
current...)
--
Cheers,
Harvey
>
> Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse)
You know the percentage of men in AFCA is greater than 50%.
> ever gotten a shave at a barber's
> (or know someone who has)? Recently? I'm thinking that there are fewer
> and fewer barbers who would offer the service.
In Colorado, you can't call yourself a barber unless you've had 150
hours of practice in shaving, honing, and stropping. Look up the
California licensure requirements, I think you'll find real barbers
still need to be able to shave you.
>
> Also, men would need shaving more frequently than haircuts, so was the
> routine to shave yourself until it was time for a haircut, then get a
> shave at the barbers? Was there ever a class of men who got daily
> shaves from a barber?
>
Prolly. Don't you think it sounds luxurious? If it sounds luxurious,
then somewhere sometime some group of people did it daily.
--
Dover (my husband loathes shaving)
Men used to have their own shaving mugs stores at the barber's. Here
is a photo of a cabinet in which they were store.
http://www.brasslanternantiques.com/barbermug.htm
Boron
>> Singing seems to be another dead art.
>
>
>No kidding. I mean, just watch American Idol. What's with all the
>melismas?[1,2]
>
>[1] Sorry, Jeff.
>
>[2]ObBoulding: melismata.
I had to look that up.
--
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p...@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
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>Driving home after a hard day yesterday, my mind wandered and this tune
>came in. From there, I remembered that I've never had a shave at a
>barber's, even when I was getting my hair cut every 3-4 weeks.
>
>Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse) ever gotten a shave at a barber's (or
>know someone who has)? Recently? I'm thinking that there are fewer and
>fewer barbers who would offer the service.
The price list at the barber I used from 88 to 95 included prices for
various services. A normal haircut was $9. A shave was $10,000.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
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Boy, I sure saw what I wanted to see when I misspelled that word. <G>
And of course the spell checker couldn't give a rat's ass about it.
Jeff
Reminds me of the coffee shops my folks took me into during WWII. Sugar
was a rationed item then and many steady customers brought in their own
stash of it in labeled sugar bowls or restaurant style sugar dispensers
kept on a wall rack behind the counter.
One of those places made their own donuts using one of those race track
shaped donut fryers the donuts moved around. It kept kids like me
occupied staring at it for eons.
That place had this poem painted on a wall:
As you go through life my friend,
Whatever be your goal.
Keep your eye upon the donut,
And not upon the hole.
You are right. It makes about as much sense as teats on a bull.
Les
That was on the wall of the Mayflower Donut Shop in downtown Detroit
at least through the mid 60s.
Boron
You have received several responses to your questions, and they recall
the things I remember about barbershops that gave shaves. I will add
that in the era of the barbershop that kept a customer's personal
shaving mug, the barber shave was a once a week thing - every
Saturday. I was surprised to find that there are still barbershops
today that provide shaves. I thought that all went away when the AIDS
scare took hold, and even the dental hygienists started wearing
plastic face protectors when they cleaned your teeth.
I still have a Rolls razor from the late 1950s. It's the closest
thing to a straight razor, but without the danger of cutting your
throat. It's a beautifully designed object:
http://user.tninet.se/~uqv930t/vassare/rolls4.jpg
It competed with the double-edged blades of the Gillette era, but as
good as it was way back when, any twin-bladed razor of today gives a
much better shave than the Rolls. My Rolls razor is in the same
category as a Dremel; I don't use it but it is such a nice object to
have.
Les
> Men used to have their own shaving mugs stores at the barber's. Here
> is a photo of a cabinet in which they were store.
Not only that, but some men who belonged to various secret
societies would have a number on their mug instead of a
name, along with a symbol of the society underneath. A
stranger in town who belonged to the same secret society
could stop into the barber shop, survey the mugs, and then
look up the number in his code book to know what fellow
member was in the neighborhood. In other instances for people
who were less paranoid the person would have their real
name under the symbol [especially true of Masons, I believe].
Actually, some states passed laws specifying that every customer
should have his own shaving mug, identified by either name or
number. This was to prevent spread of "barber's itch".
Charles
The last time I had a haircut was in July of 1972, at the barber
shop just across the street from the main entrance to Ft. Campbell,
Kentucky [or perhaps Tennessee; the entrance is very near the
state line]. The haircut cost me $1.00.
charles
>ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) wrote in
>news:ctbishop-210...@dialup-4.246.42.241.dial1.sanjose1.level3.
>net:
>
>
>>
>> Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse)
>
>You know the percentage of men in AFCA is greater than 50%.
And your point is?
>
>> ever gotten a shave at a barber's
>> (or know someone who has)? Recently? I'm thinking that there are fewer
>> and fewer barbers who would offer the service.
>
>In Colorado, you can't call yourself a barber unless you've had 150
>hours of practice in shaving, honing, and stropping. Look up the
>California licensure requirements, I think you'll find real barbers
>still need to be able to shave you.
But would the do it if asked? Or, does the price list include shaving?
Would they use a straight razon ( a necessary part of the experience) or a
cheap disposable one?
>
>>
>> Also, men would need shaving more frequently than haircuts, so was the
>> routine to shave yourself until it was time for a haircut, then get a
>> shave at the barbers? Was there ever a class of men who got daily
>> shaves from a barber?
>>
>
>Prolly. Don't you think it sounds luxurious? If it sounds luxurious,
>then somewhere sometime some group of people did it daily.
Other posters have already mentioned examples of this, back in the day.
One "job" I wish I had thought of was shaving women's legs, in public, no
less. An enterprising chap set up shop on That Street In Berkely, CA that
is heavily foottrafficed and has odd people on it - Telegraph? maybe.
Anyway he set up a sidewalk shop shaving women's legs. Did a good business
too until he was shut down. It may not have been Berkely, though, it was
probably a state reg. that did him in.
--
cahrles
>>In Colorado, you can't call yourself a barber unless you've had 150
>>hours of practice in shaving, honing, and stropping. Look up the
>>California licensure requirements, I think you'll find real barbers
>>still need to be able to shave you.
>
> But would the do it if asked? Or, does the price list include shaving?
> Would they use a straight razon ( a necessary part of the experience)
> or a cheap disposable one?
>>
There is (or was) a guy over on misc.consumers.frugal-living who was
opening his own barber shop in Texas, aimed at a primarily gay
clientele. He talked frequently about the importance to his business of
sanitation, sharp straight razors, and clean hot towels. Shirley not
just gay barbers with gay clientele still give shaves? If so, you might
want to consider switching teams, because I still think it sounds
luxurious and slightly decadent.
> One "job" I wish I had thought of was shaving women's legs, in public,
> no less. An enterprising chap set up shop on That Street In Berkely,
> CA that is heavily foottrafficed and has odd people on it - Telegraph?
> maybe. Anyway he set up a sidewalk shop shaving women's legs. Did a
> good business too until he was shut down. It may not have been
> Berkely, though, it was probably a state reg. that did him in.
Why not just wax and dye women's pubic hair? I suppose many guys would
be dismayed to muck around down there and be met with screams of pain,
but maybe the pleased smiles and $15 tips at the end would make up for
it.
--
Dover
> On 21 May 2006, Jeff Wisnia wrote
> > Charles Bishop wrote:
> >
> >> Driving home after a hard day yesterday, my mind wandered and
> >> this tune came in. From there, I remembered that I've never
> >> had a shave at a barber's, even when I was getting my hair
> >> cut every 3-4 weeks.
>
> -snip-
>
> > I've never gotten a barber shave, but I used to regularly get
> > my hair "singed" by the barber at the conclusion of a haircut.
>
> -snip-
>
> When I was a teenager in Ottawa (early 1960s), the barbers used a
> straight razor to clean up around your neck and sideburns after
> they'd finished cutting.
>
That was my experience in 90's and 00's Boston before evacuating. Really
the only way to do that spot where my hair and ear meet on my head. In
my experience Italian barbers are most likely to do this as a matter of
course. Haven't found anyone where I live now who does it though
(although they have a different gimmick which is to use an air
compressor with hoses to each chair to blow away the cut hair).
Never had the full job done myself but saw others getting it. Usually it
was someone doing it for a special occasion like a wedding.
>The last time I had a haircut was in July of 1972, at the barber
>shop just across the street from the main entrance to Ft. Campbell,
>Kentucky [or perhaps Tennessee; the entrance is very near the
>state line]. The haircut cost me $1.00.
Do you:
1. No longer need haircuts because you are bald?
2. Have a family member cut your hair?
3. Have hair like this guy?
http://members.chello.se/harryperonius/nepal/sadhu/sadhu_long_hair.JPG
Les
>Reminds me of the coffee shops my folks took me into during WWII. Sugar
>was a rationed item then and many steady customers brought in their own
>stash of it in labeled sugar bowls or restaurant style sugar dispensers
>kept on a wall rack behind the counter.
>One of those places made their own donuts using one of those race track
>shaped donut fryers the donuts moved around. It kept kids like me
>occupied staring at it for eons.
I remember the race track type donut fryers! In that same time frame
there was one in the subway station at 42 St. in N.Y.C. - right on
the platform where you waited for trains.
Les
>ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) wrote in
>news:ctbishop-210...@dialup-4.246.39.27.dial1.sanjose1.level3.n
>et:
>
>
>>>In Colorado, you can't call yourself a barber unless you've had 150
>>>hours of practice in shaving, honing, and stropping. Look up the
>>>California licensure requirements, I think you'll find real barbers
>>>still need to be able to shave you.
>>
>> But would the do it if asked? Or, does the price list include shaving?
>> Would they use a straight razon ( a necessary part of the experience)
>> or a cheap disposable one?
>>>
>
>There is (or was) a guy over on misc.consumers.frugal-living who was
>opening his own barber shop in Texas, aimed at a primarily gay
>clientele. He talked frequently about the importance to his business of
>sanitation, sharp straight razors, and clean hot towels. Shirley not
>just gay barbers with gay clientele still give shaves? If so, you might
>want to consider switching teams, because I still think it sounds
>luxurious and slightly decadent.
>
That's Tock. Did you see the link he posted to the TV interview he
did? I think I'd look him up if I was ever in Texas when I was in
need of a haircut.
"Type 'O' slightly less".
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:50:12 -0500, Dover Beach
> <moon.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>There is (or was) a guy over on misc.consumers.frugal-living who was
>>opening his own barber shop in Texas, aimed at a primarily gay
>>clientele. He talked frequently about the importance to his business
>>of sanitation, sharp straight razors, and clean hot towels. Shirley
>>not just gay barbers with gay clientele still give shaves? If so, you
>>might want to consider switching teams, because I still think it
>>sounds luxurious and slightly decadent.
>>
>
> That's Tock. Did you see the link he posted to the TV interview he
> did? I think I'd look him up if I was ever in Texas when I was in
> need of a haircut.
>>
No! I quit reading over there after R*d Sp**d moved in. Too tiresome.
But that's great that he's getting publicity! I agree, I'd stop in to
see his shop, even if I didn't need a haircut.
--
Dover
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 23:26:10 GMT, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>The last time I had a haircut was in July of 1972, at the barber
>>shop just across the street from the main entrance to Ft. Campbell,
>>Kentucky [or perhaps Tennessee; the entrance is very near the
>>state line]. The haircut cost me $1.00.
>
>
> Do you:
>
> 1. No longer need haircuts because you are bald?
no
> 2. Have a family member cut your hair?
no
> 3. Have hair like this guy?
>
> http://members.chello.se/harryperonius/nepal/sadhu/sadhu_long_hair.JPG
no
Every morning when I shave I also clip a little bit of the hair on
my head. By doing this every day I always look like I'm about
halfway between haircuts. I don't need to see what I'm doing by now,
it's all done by feel.
Charles
>Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote in
>news:r21272h2fvsljcgbq...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:50:12 -0500, Dover Beach
>> <moon.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>There is (or was) a guy over on misc.consumers.frugal-living who was
>>>opening his own barber shop in Texas, aimed at a primarily gay
>>>clientele. He talked frequently about the importance to his business
>>>of sanitation, sharp straight razors, and clean hot towels. Shirley
>>>not just gay barbers with gay clientele still give shaves? If so, you
>>>might want to consider switching teams, because I still think it
>>>sounds luxurious and slightly decadent.
>>>
>>
>> That's Tock. Did you see the link he posted to the TV interview he
>> did? I think I'd look him up if I was ever in Texas when I was in
>> need of a haircut.
>>>
>
>No! I quit reading over there after R*d Sp**d moved in. Too tiresome.
>But that's great that he's getting publicity! I agree, I'd stop in to
>see his shop, even if I didn't need a haircut.
There, as here, a good killfile works wonders.
> When I was a teenager in Ottawa (early 1960s), the barbers used a
> straight razor to clean up around your neck and sideburns after
> they'd finished cutting.
>
> But more to the point: "SIX bits"???
>
> I *definitely* learned that as "Shave and a haircut, two bits".
>
Yeah. I thought this was an inflation thread.
Mr C
>There is (or was) a guy over on misc.consumers.frugal-living who was
>opening his own barber shop in Texas, aimed at a primarily gay
>clientele. He talked frequently about the importance to his business of
>sanitation, sharp straight razors, and clean hot towels. Shirley not
>just gay barbers with gay clientele still give shaves? If so, you might
>want to consider switching teams, because I still think it sounds
>luxurious and slightly decadent.
I used to have my hair cut at a salon where the owner offered "male
esthetic services". He said that the vast majority of his clients
were gay, even for regular facial shaving he offered (though this may
have been a selection bias).
His esthetic service was called "Backs, Cracks & Sacks".
nj"brazilian"m
--
"Aha, Mr. Bond! You have arrived just in time to
witness the triumph of the trilobites, and the end
of the human race."
>Doctors like that really get on my tits.
>
>(Has that expression -- common one in the UK, used by men as well
>as women -- travelled to the US?)
Unfortunately not.
nj"nor 'dressed to the tits'"m
> You know the percentage of men in AFCA is greater than 50%.
Or at least of those claiming to be men. We could all be pregnant
housewives with too much time on our hands.
--
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The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
> housewives with too much time on our hands.
Does Mrs. Penguin read AFCA?
My barber still lathers me up and shaves my neck and sideburns. More like
100 bits now, though!
For all you know, I am Mrs. Penguin.
But actually, no. She's content with the occasional desultory Opossum
Mary.
I've never gotten a full facial shave at a barber, but my current barber
will use a straight razor to trim up sideburns, and sometimes the back of
my neck.
I remember the first time that happened. The barber was a big
Italian-looking guy with a New York accent. Anyway, at one point he
mentioned that he used to ride with the a motorcycle gang. I said I
figured him more for a Gambini gang than a Hell's Angel gang. The whole
shop, which was a pretty chatty place up to then, got very quiet for the
rest of the time I was there. Then at the end of the haircut the guy
brings out a straight razor. I was more than a little nervous.
Xho
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I actively seek out "barbers" rather than "hair salons". I have not
had any great difficulty finding them. In larger cities there are few
barbers per capita, but that still means there are quite a few of them.
I now live in a smallish semi-rural town. There are three barbers
that I know of and probably several others I haven't noticed.
As for barber shaves, I have had sometimes had a full beard and
sometimes been clean-shaven. For a couple of the transitions I had a
barber shave it off. Those times I have done it myself have tended to
involve a fair amount of blood loss, so the extra expense is
worthwhile. I have never had any problem finding a barber to do it.
Richard R. Hershberger
>On 21 May 2006, Dover Beach wrote
>
>> HVS <harve...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns97CAE091...@62.253.170.163:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Doctors like that really get on my tits.
>>>
>>> (Has that expression -- common one in the UK, used by men as
>>> well as women -- travelled to the US?)
>>>
>>
>> No. And I hope it doesn't. It doesn't even make sense.
>
>Idioms don't *have* to make sense: their origins get lost in
>history, and they just mean what they mean.
>
>(Stuff like "the cat's pajamas" and "really rocks my socks", sans
>the "off", didn't make a hell of a lot of sense even when they were
>current...)
The whole nine yards.
> as well, to wipe off the remaining bits of soap. Then some kind
> of liquid from a bottle -- perfumed, I think -- was slapped on
> to close the pores again and off you went, face all aglow.
Witch hazel? I use that at home.
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> I still have a Rolls razor from the late 1950s. It's the closest
> thing to a straight razor, but without the danger of cutting your
> throat. It's a beautifully designed object:
>
> http://user.tninet.se/~uqv930t/vassare/rolls4.jpg
>
> It competed with the double-edged blades of the Gillette era, but as
> good as it was way back when, any twin-bladed razor of today gives a
> much better shave than the Rolls. My Rolls razor is in the same
> category as a Dremel; I don't use it but it is such a nice object to
> have.
A friend has the same item, it was his father's.
Nickel chrome beauty. I don't know if he's ever used it but it's a top
of the line item.
> I still have a Rolls razor from the late 1950s. It's the closest
> thing to a straight razor, but without the danger of cutting your
> throat.
I inherited my father's cut-throat razor. I don't know when he
switched to safety razors (my mom thinks when he was in the army in WW
II), but he switched to electric in the '60s.
Mary "I use it to slash bread loaves"
--
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>ctbi...@earthlink.netttt (Charles Bishop) wrote:
>
>
>>Driving home after a hard day yesterday, my mind wandered and this tune
>>came in. From there, I remembered that I've never had a shave at a
>>barber's, even when I was getting my hair cut every 3-4 weeks.
>>
>>Has anyone here (well, 50% of youse) ever gotten a shave at a barber's (or
>>know someone who has)? Recently? I'm thinking that there are fewer and
>>fewer barbers who would offer the service.
>>
>
>The price list at the barber I used from 88 to 95 included prices for
>various services. A normal haircut was $9. A shave was $10,000.
>
>
do ya think he meant a shave was "priceless"?
> In the 1970s when I sometimes went barefaced, I had several barber
> shaves. I'd do it again for an occasional treat if I didn't have a
> fulltime beard. I got a closer shave with a sharp straight razor than I
> got at home with either an electric razor or a safety razor.
Apropos of nothing in particular, there's a very funny story in "The
Innocents Abroad" about Sam Clemens getting a barber shave in Europe.
--
Hank Gillette
"I think liberalism lives - the notion that we don't have to stay where we
are as a society, we have promises to keep, and it is liberalism, whether
people like it or not, which has animated all the years of my life. What
on Earth did conservatism ever accomplish for our country? -- Charles Kuralt
> One "job" I wish I had thought of was shaving women's legs, in public,
> no less. An enterprising chap set up shop on That Street In Berkely,
> CA that is heavily foottrafficed and has odd people on it - Telegraph?
> maybe. Anyway he set up a sidewalk shop shaving women's legs. Did a
> good business too until he was shut down. It may not have been
> Berkely, though, it was probably a state reg. that did him in.
Perhaps Berkeley doesn't have much of a leg-shaving female population.
--
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fer sher d'yood!
Chu's on first.
Shirley for defensive purposes only, such as when they attack you.
> I remember the first time that happened. The barber was a big
> Italian-looking guy with a New York accent. Anyway, at one point
> he mentioned that he used to ride with the a motorcycle gang. I
> said I figured him more for a Gambini gang than a Hell's Angel
> gang. The whole shop, which was a pretty chatty place up to then,
> got very quiet for the rest of the time I was there. Then at the
> end of the haircut the guy brings out a straight razor. I was
> more than a little nervous.
Did you find a new barber after that?
No, routinely[1]. Just before they go into the oven. OK, it's not
yet bread then but bread dough, albeit in loaf shape.
After you let the bread proof (in the loaf) you slash the top just
before it goes into the oven. The slash opens up during the oven
spring and you get a very decorative effect. The loaf will rise
higher, too, because the top can expand more than it would unslashed.
[1] I tried to work 'offensively' or 'offensive' in here, but it
really didn't say what I meant it too. Aha, I should have used
'proactively'.
Mary "Proactive bread slasher"
Nope. After he shaved my side-burns and didn't cut my throat, I decided
they all were just having a little fun with the new kid.
grrrrr
> HVS <harve...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> news:Xns97CAE091...@62.253.170.163:
>
>
>
>>Doctors like that really get on my tits.
>>
>>(Has that expression -- common one in the UK, used by men as well
>>as women -- travelled to the US?)
>>
>
>
> No. And I hope it doesn't. It doesn't even make sense.
>
Do the brits still use, "Blow me Jack, I'm allright" ???
I still remember being puzzled when about four decades ago an English
girl I'd started dating came out with that one. It didn't make much
male-female physical sense to me. <G>
I think I heard somewhere that the expression was related to the same
"blow" as in the song "Blow The Man Down" where blow meant to strike
someone down with your fist.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.
>Do the brits still use, "Blow me Jack, I'm allright" ???
>
>I still remember being puzzled when about four decades ago an English
>girl I'd started dating came out with that one. It didn't make much
>male-female physical sense to me. <G>
>
>I think I heard somewhere that the expression was related to the same
>"blow" as in the song "Blow The Man Down" where blow meant to strike
>someone down with your fist.
"Blow me", at least, is used a lot here. It means "I'm astounded",
and AFAIK you're right about the "hit me" inner meaning. There's no
connection with oral sex at all, and it's a completely innocuous
phrase.
As for the "Jack, I'm all right" part, that's not one I've heard. It
sounds like an inversion of "I'm all right, Jack", a phrase which
roughly means "I don't care: I'm doing fine, even if no-one else is".
Also, "I'm All Right Jack" is the title of a clever and amusing
British satirical B&W film from 1959, which lampoons the growing abuse
of power by trades unions of the time. It has Peter Sellers in it, as
well as Dicky Attenborough, Ian Carmichael, Terry-Thomas, John Le
Mesurier and so on.
The reason for the title (I can't remember if the phrase is spoken in
the film) is that the unions pretty much had that manufacturing
business sewn up, and were abusing their power. They were all right,
Jack, in other words.
Not that I disagree with unionisation - quite the contrary, but it was
the excessive and greedy power of some major unions in the 1960s and,
more so, in the 1970s, that brought us some of the worst excesses of
Thatcherism (miners' strike, anyone?), and hence the defanging of the
whole labour movement.
--
John Hatpin
> ....
>As for the "Jack, I'm all right" part, that's not one I've heard. It
>sounds like an inversion of "I'm all right, Jack", a phrase which
>roughly means "I don't care: I'm doing fine, even if no-one else is".
>Also, "I'm All Right Jack" is the title of a clever and amusing
>British satirical B&W film from 1959, which lampoons the growing abuse
>of power by trades unions of the time. It has Peter Sellers in it, as
>well as Dicky Attenborough, Ian Carmichael, Terry-Thomas, John Le
>Mesurier and so on.
>The reason for the title (I can't remember if the phrase is spoken in
>the film) is that the unions pretty much had that manufacturing
>business sewn up, and were abusing their power. They were all right,
>Jack, in other words. .....
I have that film in my collection. Do you remember the scene near the
beginning of the film when Ian Carmichael is interviewing for a
position in a candy company, and he is shown the candy making process?
The phrase, "I'm alright, Jack" is never spoken in the film, but it is
the title song that is sung as the beginning credits are shown.
Les
>On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:14:25 +0000, John Hatpin
><use...@jfhgetridofthisbitopkin.kaandthisbittooroo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ....
>>As for the "Jack, I'm all right" part, that's not one I've heard. It
>>sounds like an inversion of "I'm all right, Jack", a phrase which
>>roughly means "I don't care: I'm doing fine, even if no-one else is".
>>Also, "I'm All Right Jack" is the title of a clever and amusing
>>British satirical B&W film from 1959, which lampoons the growing abuse
>>of power by trades unions of the time. It has Peter Sellers in it, as
>>well as Dicky Attenborough, Ian Carmichael, Terry-Thomas, John Le
>>Mesurier and so on.
>>The reason for the title (I can't remember if the phrase is spoken in
>>the film) is that the unions pretty much had that manufacturing
>>business sewn up, and were abusing their power. They were all right,
>>Jack, in other words. .....
>
>I have that film in my collection. Do you remember the scene near the
>beginning of the film when Ian Carmichael is interviewing for a
>position in a candy company, and he is shown the candy making process?
No, I don't - please remind me. I've not seen the film for many years
now.
--
John Hatpin
That would be "Blow you, Jack, I'm all right"
Polite rephrasing of "Fuck you, Jack, I'm all right."
--
John Dean
Oxford
Carmichael has a morning interview at the candy factory, and he is
given a tour to see the machines that manufacture the candy. The
machines are shown spewing their mixtures into candy molds. Other
machines are shown dripping sugar mixtures over the candy bars, and at
each stage in the process the man interviewing Carmichael insists he
sample the candy. Carmichael wants to show he is interested so he
eats the candy bars that are offered to him during the tour. But
after several samples along the way, Carmichael vomits into one of the
candy mixing machines.
Les
>Carmichael has a morning interview at the candy factory, and he is
>given a tour to see the machines that manufacture the candy. The
>machines are shown spewing their mixtures into candy molds. Other
>machines are shown dripping sugar mixtures over the candy bars, and at
>each stage in the process the man interviewing Carmichael insists he
>sample the candy. Carmichael wants to show he is interested so he
>eats the candy bars that are offered to him during the tour. But
>after several samples along the way, Carmichael vomits into one of the
>candy mixing machines.
Ah, yes - I remember it now. Thanks for the re-chuckle.
--
John Hatpin
Upchuckle?
--
Oh. You don't wanna look in there.
> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
>
> >Do the brits still use, "Blow me Jack, I'm allright" ???
> "Blow me", at least, is used a lot here. It means "I'm astounded",
> and AFAIK you're right about the "hit me" inner meaning. There's no
> connection with oral sex at all, and it's a completely innocuous
> phrase.
>
> As for the "Jack, I'm all right" part, that's not one I've heard.
I've heard it as "Fuck you Jack, I'm all right". Also exaggeratedly
politely as "I care not for thee Jack, for I am in the dinghy".
--
Nick Spalding
>> As for the "Jack, I'm all right" part, that's not one I've heard.
>
>I've heard it as "Fuck you Jack, I'm all right". Also exaggeratedly
>politely as "I care not for thee Jack, for I am in the dinghy".
"Money -- get back
I'm all right, Jack; keep your hands off my stack"
--
All opinions expressed herein are only that, and are my own.
Pax vobiscum.
est...@kc.rr.com
Kansas City, Missouri
> "Money -- get back
> I'm all right, Jack; keep your hands off my stack"
Speaking of which, I've been noticing lately how good some of those
old Pink Floyd songs were.
Today I heard:
"The lunatics are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more"
One of those groups that I appreciate more now than I used to.
P
Yeah, well, they were a lot better when they had Barrett (d&r)
--
"How 'bout cuttin' that rebop?"
-- S. Kowalski
>>Speaking of which, I've been noticing lately how good some of those
>>old Pink Floyd songs were.
>>Today I heard:
>>
>>"The lunatics are in my hall
>>The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
>>And every day the paper boy brings more"
>>
>>One of those groups that I appreciate more now than I used to.
>Yeah, well, they were a lot better when they had Barrett (d&r)
You mean, as in
"I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like
It's got a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it.
You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world
I'll give you anything, everything if you want things"
Good stuff, but since I prefer my depressed lyricists to be a bit less
manic, I'll go with
"Every year is getting shorter
Never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to nought
Or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone the song is over
Thought I'd something more to say."
--
Regards
Peter Boulding
p...@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
Fractal music & images: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/
Well I've got a brand new pair of roller skates
You've got a brand new key
I think that we should get together
And try them out you see
I've been looking around awhile
You've got something for me
Well I've got a brand new pair of roller skates
You've got a brand new key"
--
Bill in Vancouver
'Cos I've got a brand-new combine harvester
And I'll give you the key.
Come on, let's get together now,
In perfect harmony.
I've got 20 acres and you've got 43.
Now, I've got a brand-new combine harvester
And I'll give you the key.
--
John Hatpin