football game design
rob...@bestweb.net
not to discuss here re Cage Match Football.
>> from box lacrosse:
>> ... penalty box, substitution on the fly, and goalkeeping;
>Box lacrosse? Sheesh, why not hockey?
>> I was trying to be economical in my attributions.
>Oh, *sure*. <pouts>
I thought about citing hockey, but it doesn't have a shot clock, so it was
possible to shorten the list a bit by citing box lacrosse. I could've
attributed the shot clock to water polo instead -- or for that matter,
goalkeeping. Cage Match Football would use time, rather than number of
downs, to limit continuous possession of the ball by a team.
>> from Canadian football:
>> flying 5-man backfield and dribbling;
>The only sport *I* know of with anything called dribbling is
>basketball, and they sure don't do that kind of dribbling in
>Canadian football. What do you have in mind here?
You never heard of dribbling in soccer? Anyway, in Canadian football, as in
rugby, it's still legal to kick a loose ball. In Canadian football, such a
kick is called in the rules a "dribble, or flying kick". In Cage Match
football, as in Arena Football, punting would be illegal, but so would
having the ball kicked while or immediately after being held by a player;
however, kicking a loose ball would be legal (as would drop kicking, of
course).
>Speaking of indoor football, I recall reading long ago that a
>football game was once played in the Chicago Stadium (the Chicago
>Black Hawks' hockey arena) when it was impossible to play outdoors
>due to bad weather. I presume the rules were something hastily
>improvised. You know about that?
The only "rules" change was adopting whatever playing space was available as
legal. In the case of Chicago Stadium, that meant a field that was 80 yards
between the goal lines and had goals sticking out of the stands. However,
the game RESULTED in a couple of rules changes. One was officially moving
the goals to the goal lines. The other resulted from a disputed play in
which Nagurski threw a forward pass probably not from the required
at-least-5-yards behind the line of scrimmage; the NFL decided to legalize
throwing forward from anywhere behind the line of scrimmage. In both cases
these were changes BACK to rules that'd been in force about 20 years earlier
pre-NFL.
BTW, there used to be a small-college post-season indoor game in Atlantic
City called the Boardwalk Bowl. The field in the Convention Center had
slightly short end zones with one goal stuck in the stands. That was also
before the NCAA decreed a cleared safety zone around the field. You were
out of bounds if you hit the drapes hung from the stands.
Robert
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rob...@bestweb.net
>Huh! <Checks CFL rules> It only says "dribbled ball", nothing
>about "flying kick". Perhaps Canadian university rules are
>different.
No; they stopped using the term "flying kick" a few years ago. Who needs
two official terms for one thing?
>I take "goals" to mean what I would call "goalposts".
The goal posts hold up the goals, or form the boundaries of the goals. The
actual goals are imaginary surfaces bounded by the posts and the crossbar.
>Curious; I've only looked at American football occasionally, but one
>difference I remember from the CFL was that the goalposts *weren't*
>on the goal lines, but rather behind the end zones. And this was
>long after that stadium game. How many times have they been moved?
First end lines were created, and the goals moved there from the goal
lines. The reason given was safety -- to remove those obstacles. That's
how it's stayed under NCAA and NFSHSA rules. Then the NFL moved them back
to the goal lines. Finally the NFL moved the goals once again to the end
lines.
>I don't follow any sports regularly any more, but used to follow
>the CFL and NHL. In the CFL, there was one rule that I always
>thought was silly: a punt that goes clear through the end zone
>without the opponents touching it should obviously score a single
>in my opinion, but doesn't.
The idea is that the other team should at least have a chance to return it.
>And in the NHL, there are two or three
>rule changes that occurred before I started watching the game that
>I would have liked to see reversed:
>- introduction of the center red line
>- termination of penalty when the shorthanded team is scored against
The idea is that if foul play prevents or prejudices a chance to score, then
at most one goal should make up for it. If a goal intervenes before a
delayed penalty is called against the team being scored on, a minor penalty
isn't even enforced. Major penalties, however, which are for fouls likely
to cause more serious consequences -- i.e. injury, not just a momentary
play advantage -- do carry over after a goal has been scored.