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Pentalarc #1 @503

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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RE: Re: "Peeing Calvin" Stickers
BY: Greg Goss <gg...@direct.ca>

>>>For the past several years, I've noticed a growing number of
>>>automobiles whose owners have affixed a decal of Calvin (of
>>>the defunct comic strip Calvin and Hobbes) peeing. I have a
>>>number of questions about this. First of all, were these stickers
>>>approved by C&H creator Bill Watterson?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>>If not, what is his
>>>take on the phenomenon?
>>
>>I can't recall hearing his opinion of the subject, if he's given
>>one, but whatever cartoon syndicate controls the distribution of
>>the image really dislikes it, and has taken action against places
>>making them, as I recall.
>I believe that one of the clauses that he managed to get to stick in
>his contract was no franchising at all. I think that there is NO
>approved merchandising of C&H products.

There is a sometimes nasty "rivalry" between New Orleans and it's own
suburbs, especially an unincorporated area called Metairie. I utterly detest
the peeing Calvin decals, but I once saw one someone had made of the Calvin
peeing on the word "Metairie." That gave me a smile.

Pentalarc
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AlanKngsly

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>>>I can't recall hearing his opinion of the subject, if he's given
>>>one, but whatever cartoon syndicate controls the distribution of
>>>the image really dislikes it, and has taken action against places
>>>making them, as I recall.
>>I believe that one of the clauses that he managed to get to stick in
>>his contract was no franchising at all. I think that there is NO
>>approved merchandising of C&H products.
>
> There is a sometimes nasty "rivalry" between New Orleans and it's own
>suburbs, especially an unincorporated area called Metairie. I utterly detest
>the peeing Calvin decals, but I once saw one someone had made of the Calvin
>peeing on the word "Metairie." That gave me a smile.

See, I really like that sticker (if not always the people who put them on their
cars). I think it would be a shame if it were not available for people to use
as car art. It's a pop culture phenomenon, but then it's weird, considering
the creator (and what's he doing these days?) didn't want any merchandising at
all. I commend him for not filling Wal-Mart with cheesy promotional goods, but
something as clever and almost subversive as the peeing Calvin is a different
bird.

Alan

GrapeApe

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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>See, I really like that sticker (if not always the people who put them on
>their
>cars). I think it would be a shame if it were not available for people
>to use
>as car art. It's a pop culture phenomenon, but then it's weird, considering
>the creator (and what's he doing these days?) didn't want any merchandising
>at
>all. I commend him for not filling Wal-Mart with cheesy promotional goods,
>but
>something as clever and almost subversive as the peeing Calvin is a different
>bird.

Of course, you didnt really mean to suggest that Watterson himself drafted the
icon do you? It was some bored person at a sign shop playing with the scanner
and a vinyl cutting machine, redrawing a bit here and there, who took the
results to his flea market table that weekend.

Most of the stickers have been redrawn so many times now (perhaps on purpose to
avoid lawsuits) that it is looking less and less like any pose Calvins creator
ever drew, or like Calvin at all.

Unless you were one of those people who couldnt see that the Oprahs head on Ann
Margarets body TV Guide cover a few years ago the first time she lost 200
pounds, was a DRAWING not a photograph, no computer manipulation was even
necessary, you could see the burhs marks and pencil lines, and there were
people going around talking about "that photo". If so, Do you have change for
some Monopoly money I have?

AlanKngsly

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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In article <19991001131727...@ng-bk1.aol.com>, grap...@aol.comjunk
(GrapeApe) writes:

>
>Of course, you didnt really mean to suggest that Watterson himself drafted
>the
>icon do you?

No, of course not. Did I really give that impression?

What I was saying, basically, is that the Calvin peeing sticker is as valid a
form of pop art as anything Warhol or Lichtenstein did. Which raises an
interesting point in my mind: did anyone ever try to sue any of those guys for
unauthorized use of a copyrighted image? Is there an exemption for something
considered "fine art"? And if so, how would that be determined?

Alan

Carl Fink

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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On 02 Oct 1999 03:39:22 GMT AlanKngsly <alank...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>What I was saying, basically, is that the Calvin peeing sticker is as valid a
>form of pop art as anything Warhol or Lichtenstein did. Which raises an
>interesting point in my mind: did anyone ever try to sue any of those guys for
>unauthorized use of a copyrighted image? Is there an exemption for something
>considered "fine art"? And if so, how would that be determined?

I think you mean "trademarked". And there's an exception for
"commentary and review" that would probably include a single Warhol
or Lichtenstein canvas (if not a print).
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James Gifford

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Oct 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/3/99
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ket...@seemysig.com wrote:
> Frankly, I think they are low class. I rank them with "My kid just
> beat up your honor student" bumper stickers. But maybe my standards
> are the ones keeping the "average" even as high as it is.

Know what you mean. The micturating-Calvin stuff is pretty disgusting,
really. Although the first one I saw peeing on "My Ex" made me laugh,
and I saw an even better spin-off the other day:

Classic Calvin body (striped shirt, etc.)
Alien head.
Two urine streams.

What actually made it funny was that the pee wasn't hitting anything,
just the virtual ground.

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Gary S. Callison

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ket...@seemysig.com wrote:
: Zetan's Book of Enlightenment reveals that on 01 Oct 1999 10:20:13 GMT,
: AlanKngsly wrote:
: >all. I commend him for not filling Wal-Mart with cheesy promotional

: >goods, but something as clever and almost subversive as the peeing
: >Calvin is a different bird.
: Frankly, I think they are low class. I rank them with "My kid just

: beat up your honor student" bumper stickers. But maybe my standards
: are the ones keeping the "average" even as high as it is.

I agree that the peeing Calvin stickers are low-class (and hey, I'm Mr.
Low Class) and a sure-fire moron-identifier, but if I ever do have any
kids, my car will be graced with a "My honor student beat up your honor
student" bumper sticker if I have to hack one together myself.

--
Huey


Pentalarc #1 @503

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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RE: Re: Calvin peeing
BY: ket...@seemysig.com

ŻFrankly, I think they are low class. I rank them with "My kid just beat up
Żyour honor student" bumper stickers. But maybe my standards are the ones
Żkeeping the "average" even as high as it is.

I've also seen "My kid sold drugs to your honor student" and "My kid got your
honor student pregnant."

Then again, I'm the guy who's old car included "Friend Help You Move, Real
Friends Help You Move Bodies" and "Very Funny, Scotty, Now Beam Down My
Clothes."

And I'm still looking for, "Jesus Saves, Takes Half Damage." A joke only D&D
and AD&D players will get.

Pentalarc
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J. Michael Looney

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On 3-Oct-1999, "Pentalarc #1 @503" <sc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> And I'm still looking for, "Jesus Saves, Takes Half Damage." A joke
> only D&D and AD&D players will get.

I have (or had) that one, as a button. Got it at one of the
gay/pagan/vegan fluff stores places in Eureka Springs, AR, of all
places.

I think it was made by Pegasus press, which means my local game store
can get it. Should I look for it for you?

All of Pegasus Press buttons are also available as bummer stickers, IIRC

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StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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On Mon, 04 Oct 99 04:16:09 (cdt), "Pentalarc #1 @503"
<sc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>
>
>And I'm still looking for, "Jesus Saves, Takes Half Damage." A joke only D&D
>and AD&D players will get.

I saw one of those once, but didn't have a car at the time, and later
couldn't find it.

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StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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On Mon, 4 Oct 99 13:19:17 GMT, "J. Michael Looney"
<j...@spellbooksoftware.com> wrote:

>I think it was made by Pegasus press, which means my local game store
>can get it. Should I look for it for you?
>
>All of Pegasus Press buttons are also available as bummer stickers, IIRC

Nah, I hate it when a bummer sticks. I got one now I'm trying to shake
off.

J. Michael Looney

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On 6-Oct-1999, "StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>"
<starch...@my.sig> wrote:

> >I think it was made by Pegasus press, which means my local game store
> >can get it. Should I look for it for you?
> >
> >All of Pegasus Press buttons are also available as bummer stickers,
> >IIRC
>
> Nah, I hate it when a bummer sticks. I got one now I'm trying to shake
> off.

Sigh...

And I even ran that one over with a spellchecker (or something like
that).

StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>

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On Fri, 8 Oct 99 00:37:03 GMT, "J. Michael Looney"
<j...@spellbooksoftware.com> wrote:

>
>On 6-Oct-1999, "StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>"
><starch...@my.sig> wrote:
>
>> >I think it was made by Pegasus press, which means my local game store
>> >can get it. Should I look for it for you?
>> >
>> >All of Pegasus Press buttons are also available as bummer stickers,
>> >IIRC
>>
>> Nah, I hate it when a bummer sticks. I got one now I'm trying to shake
>> off.
>
>Sigh...
>
>And I even ran that one over with a spellchecker (or something like
>that).

<grin> The problem with spellcheckers is that they don't find words
that are spelled right but incorrect...Besides, you afforded us some
harmless amusement, and sooner or later you will return the favor...

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sell it. It never does just what I want, but only what I tell it."
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Ed Blackman

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On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 00:51:44 -0400, "StarChaser <starch...@my.sig> wrote:
>On Mon, 04 Oct 99 04:16:09 (cdt), "Pentalarc #1 @503"
><sc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>And I'm still looking for, "Jesus Saves, Takes Half Damage." A joke
>>only D&D and AD&D players will get.
>
>I saw one of those once, but didn't have a car at the time, and later
>couldn't find it.
>
>Jesus Saves Souls <small print: And redeems them for valuable prizes>

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StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>

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Jesus saves! And Johnson sinks it on the rebound!

Annie M Benson

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"StarChaser " wrote:

> Jesus saves! And Johnson sinks it on the rebound!
> --

I've heard of a small church on the boulevard that put up the nice sign,
"Jesus saves". Naturally corporate America had to get in on the act, so the
supermarket across the street put up a larger sign ,"Vons saves you more!" Thus
spake the Lord.

Ok, maybe this is apropocal (sp? Windows doesn't know what word I'm going for
here), but someone, I don't care if it is.

Annie <--- Could use the industrial strength soul-savings that Vons could deliever


Seanette Blaylock

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:39:25 -0700, Annie M Benson
<mor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Ok, maybe this is apropocal (sp? Windows doesn't know what word I'm going for
>here), but someone, I don't care if it is.

"Apocryphal"? Sounds that way to me.
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StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>

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On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:39:25 -0700, Annie M Benson
<mor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>
>
>"StarChaser " wrote:
>
>
>
>> Jesus saves! And Johnson sinks it on the rebound!
>> --
>
> I've heard of a small church on the boulevard that put up the nice sign,
>"Jesus saves". Naturally corporate America had to get in on the act, so the
>supermarket across the street put up a larger sign ,"Vons saves you more!" Thus
>spake the Lord.

<giggles> Bet the church complained...

> Ok, maybe this is apropocal (sp? Windows doesn't know what word I'm going

'apocryphal'


>for
>here), but someone, I don't care if it is.
>

>Annie <--- Could use the industrial strength soul-savings that Vons could deliever

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