Amy's Froofy Wedding Plans and Where She's Been All Your Life
Amy Gleason
Figured I'd make a new, easily ignored, thread.
Where've I been? Working mostly. I'm working at a residential facility for
children with mental retardation and behavioral disorders.
(www.idtc-in.com) I really enjoy it, and now have about a million "you
won't believe what this kid did" stories. I've been bitten, spit on,
kicked, hit, slapped, called every name in the book... Call me a glutton
for punishment. It is excellent on-the-job experience for being a teacher.
If I can deal with these kids, I can deal with anything.
The wedding is still on track. You can see pictures of the reception site
at www.aberdeenmanor.com I've got my dress,
http://www.alfredangelo.com/brides/b15232el.htm , and my bridesmaids dresses
http://www.alfredangelo.com/maids/m615742e.htm
ordered. I went with a simple dress, because my veil and my bouquet are
pretty sparkly and fancy. I didn't want to look gaudy, with too much
detail. We're getting married in the Presbyterian church. What is up with
the Presbyterians?!?!? They have entirely too many rules. It's a long
story. Their ceremony scripts suck, but it is BJ's church, so I'm trying
really hard not to bitch. For anyone who has spent time in Northwest
Indiana, BillyJack's is catering. We're negotiating with two of BJ's
professors, who are in an old-fashioned Big Band type Swing Band, to see if
they'll play the reception. The damn photographer is $2000 JUST TO SHOW UP!
I nearly died. I told my mom, "I'm not CUTE enough to necessitate a $2000
photographer!" But she insisted because "he's the best". Planning a
wedding with my mom is like throwing a dinner party and inviting Martha
Stewart. We butted heads over it quite a bit at first, but things have
gotten easier since I've decided not to care and just to let her do her
thing. It is much easier this way. I've put my foot down on the really
important stuff, and left the rest to her.
I've also been in school. The semester is almost over, so I'm pretty busy.
I have two more semesters in the classroom, plus one of student teaching.
Almost there. I am constantly annoyed by things at school. I'm in all
these shiny happy liberal classes (The Sociology of Child Abuse) for
example, where they just want the government to ride in on a white horse and
solve all our problems. Ugh. They look at me like I'm from another planet
when I say things like, "The government makes everything more difficult,
more time consuming, and more expensive than necessary - why not find a way
to do it without their intervention?" It has been interesting. I think I'm
the only republican in 90% of my classes. It's like spending the holidays
with my dad's family!
We got a dog - she's a German Shepherd mutt. I'll upload a picture of her
one of these days. Her name is Maxine. She's a pain in the ass. I also
got a PDA (Handspring Visor). I love it. Everyone should have one. I gave
BJ so much CRAP over his, but once I saw how much he used it, I got one. I
have never been so organized. It is great. I quit smoking two days ago. I
had the plague, so I figured it was a good time.
This is starting to read like one of those Holiday Update letters that you
get from distant relatives. So anyway, it is nice to be back. I may not
post with my old frequency, but I'll be around. I've missed you guys.
Does anyone know how long you have to eat leftover turkey before it is time
to throw it out?
L & k,
Amy
Michael Lorton
> Where've I been? Working mostly. I'm working at a residential
> facility for children with mental retardation and behavioral
> disorders.
So participating here is a busman's holiday.
> I've been bitten, spit on,
> kicked, hit, slapped, called every name in the book...
So Dutch acts the same in person.
> The wedding is still on track. You can see pictures of the reception site
> at www.aberdeenmanor.com I've got my dress,
> http://www.alfredangelo.com/brides/b15232el.htm
The model for this dress looks surprisingly like my mental picture of
Bailey -- she needs a little more cheekbone and a tomboy-ponytail
thing and the picture would be spot on.
, and my bridesmaids dresses
> http://www.alfredangelo.com/maids/m615742e.htm
> ordered. I went with a simple dress, because my veil and my bouquet are
> pretty sparkly and fancy. I didn't want to look gaudy, with too much
> detail. We're getting married in the Presbyterian church. What is up with
> the Presbyterians?!?!? They have entirely too many rules.
Main Entry: Presbyterian
Function: adjective
Date: 1641
1 characterized by a graded system of representative
ecclesiastical bodies (as presbyteries)
exercising legislative and judicial powers
(My point: what were you expecting?)
> The damn photographer is $2000 JUST TO SHOW UP!
Wait until you see what the album will cost.
> I told my mom, "I'm not CUTE enough to necessitate a $2000
> photographer!"
Go back to the URL. Look at that adorable punim there! Oh, you mean
what you really look like. I'm sure you're fine.
(And if you think about it, the homelier the bride is, the more skilled
the photographer needs to be.)
> Does anyone know how long you have to eat leftover turkey before it is time
> to throw it out?
That problem has literally never arisen in any refrigerator to which I
have had access.
M.
Rich Clancey
+ Hi,
+ Figured I'd make a new, easily ignored, thread.
+ Where've I been? Working mostly. I'm working at a residential facility for
+ children with mental retardation and behavioral disorders.
Did you find participation in this group a valuable preparation?
+ the Presbyterians?!?!? They have entirely too many rules. It's a long
I've always insisted that the Presbytarians made the Puritans
look like a bunch of laid back, shoulder punching party guys. With
the Puritans you could get into Heaven by being miserable and making
everyone else miserable. With the Presbytarians, you had to do that
PLUS win the Big Lottery.
+ Does anyone know how long you have to eat leftover turkey before it is time
+ to throw it out?
The smell should make you gag long before the stuff becomes
toxic. The bachelor rule of thumb was always at the first sign of
green, throw the whole thing out.
If you're truly neurotic about it, your body may have decided
to cut you off from any more turkey, but you may foolishly be keeping
it around because "you'll finish it someday." It's a true
Presbytarian concept, "have to eat". When you reach the point where
your ego ideals and your digestive system part ways, go with your
feeling of nausea.
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perfectly! Why do they digest their food perfectly? Because they
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Shawn Wilson
"Rich Clancey" <r...@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> + Does anyone know how long you have to eat leftover turkey before it is
time
> + to throw it out?
>
> The smell should make you gag long before the stuff becomes
> toxic. The bachelor rule of thumb was always at the first sign of
> green, throw the whole thing out.
Real bachelors never have leftovers to be concerned about, they don't cook
anything in the first place. Everything they eat comes wrapped in paper (or
cardboard), and is eaten still hot from the vendor.
Al Yellon
news:m3bsuwk...@civetsystems.com...
> "Amy Gleason" <glea...@purdue.edu> writes:
>
> > Where've I been? Working mostly. I'm working at a residential
> > disorders.
>
> So participating here is a busman's holiday.
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Sean Harding
> toxic. The bachelor rule of thumb was always at the first sign of
> green, throw the whole thing out.
Including the plate. I lost more than one bowl during college because the
contents were so nasty that we decided it was better just to throw the whole
thing in the garbage (the *outside* garbage) than to try to get it clean.
I guess my habits have improved since I graduated. I usually keep the fridge
fairly clean these days.
sean
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The Mighty Dutch Courage
>I lost more than one bowl during college because the
>contents were so nasty that we decided it was better just to throw the whole
>thing in the garbage (the *outside* garbage) than to try to get it clean.
One time I did my dishes down at the coin-op car wash.
"In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at
heart" -Ayn Rand
Randy Poe
<sh49106fe7de8e892f...@sharding.net> wrote:
>Rich Clancey <r...@world.std.com> wrote:
>
>> toxic. The bachelor rule of thumb was always at the first sign of
>> green, throw the whole thing out.
>
>Including the plate. I lost more than one bowl during college because the
>contents were so nasty that we decided it was better just to throw the whole
>thing in the garbage (the *outside* garbage) than to try to get it clean.
Coward.
I've kept more than one dish after throwing out a virulent mutant life
form, trusting the dishwasher to sterlize it. And I'm still alive to
tell to tale, and so is the rest of my family.
Of course, once or twice I did decide to go to increased cleaning
methods, like a couple of rounds of boiling water and alcohol. But my
wife doesn't know about those. Shhh.
- Randy
Barry Nos Sher
<mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
>"Amy Gleason" <glea...@purdue.edu> writes:
>
>> Does anyone know how long you have to eat leftover turkey before it is time
>> to throw it out?
>
You only have to eat it once, then it's too late to throw it out.
Geoduck
wrote:
(snip)
>I've kept more than one dish after throwing out a virulent mutant life
>form, trusting the dishwasher to sterlize it. And I'm still alive to
>tell to tale, and so is the rest of my family.
>
>Of course, once or twice I did decide to go to increased cleaning
>methods, like a couple of rounds of boiling water and alcohol. But my
>wife doesn't know about those. Shhh.
She knows. She's just humoring you.
--
Geoduck
http://www.olywa.net/cook
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Sean Harding <sh49106fe7de8e892f...@sharding.net>
wrote:
> Rich Clancey <r...@world.std.com> wrote:
>
> > toxic. The bachelor rule of thumb was always at the first sign of
> > green, throw the whole thing out.
>
> Including the plate. I lost more than one bowl during college because
the
> contents were so nasty that we decided it was better just to throw
the whole
> thing in the garbage (the *outside* garbage) than to try to get it
clean.
You would surpised the nasty looks the security guards (and then the
department head, and then the dean) give you when you're caught loading
your dishes into the autoclave on the 4th floor of molecular biology
building.
Xho
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Before you buy.
KaraSplat
they going to be?
Amy Gleason
KaraSplat <kara...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20001201230703...@ng-ba1.aol.com...
> Your bridal gown is beautiful, as are the bridesmaid dresses. What color
are
> they going to be?
Navy... We ordered jewelry for the girls - silver beads with crystal
accents. My jewelry is all crystal, and my veil has enough crystals on it
that it would look like a night sky if the tulle were black (in fact, that's
how I first saw it, but it is white of course). It is cathedral length, and
I'll have my hair done up somehow...
Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there aren't
many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
L & k,
Amy
Joe Shimkus
<glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
> aren't
> many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
>
Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
- Joe
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Greg Goss
>Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
>attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
She could hold it in the pacific northwest. Not much hazard from
sunflowers in Seattle or Vancouver some times of the year.
Joe Shimkus
<robc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 00:35:32 -0500, the alleged Joe Shimkus, may have
> posted the following, to alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
> >In article <90a00d$ro8$1...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, "Amy Gleason"
> ><glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
> >>aren't many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
> >
> >Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
> >attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
>
> You're a right fscking bastard aren't you (and I mean that in the most
> complementary way)? Do you have any idea how much it hurts (and costs)
> to aspirate a rather large dram of Springbank 21YO through ones sinuses?
>
Can't say that I do (partial to Lagavulin 16 myself though I've been
enjoying Laphroaig 10 lately) but feel free to send me the bottle if
it's too much for you to handle.
Reminds me of the time a girlfriend came over one evening and got
shitfaced on my Balvenie single-cask. The next morning as I looked at
the bottle I said to myself "That's a lot of good scotch gone wasted on
just getting drunk. Sigh."
dan
wrote:
>> Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
>> aren't
>> many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
>>
>
>Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
>attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
LOL ! how many others got that?
~dan
Joe Shimkus
(dan) wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 00:35:32 -0500, Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
> >> aren't
> >> many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
> >>
> >
> >Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
> >attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
>
> LOL ! how many others got that?
>
We're up to three that have chosen to respond but, particularly given
this group, I expect the total number is much higher. What I find most
enjoyable about the responses is that nobody is giving away what Slaver
Sunflowers are (though even from my original post it should be fairly
obvious) or their origin. Sociological quesion arises as to whether
that's because these people are trying to avoid spoiling it for others
or (what I personally consider more likely and certainly applies to
myself as well at times) are protecting their positions as people who
"get it" in this case.
Asterbark
>
>We're up to three that have chosen to respond but, particularly given
>this group, I expect the total number is much higher. What I find most
>enjoyable about the responses is that nobody is giving away what Slaver
>Sunflowers are (though even from my original post it should be fairly
>obvious) or their origin. Sociological quesion arises as to whether
>that's because these people are trying to avoid spoiling it for others
>or (what I personally consider more likely and certainly applies to
>myself as well at times) are protecting their positions as people who
>"get it" in this case.
Cue Starchaser to blow his cover. Everyone else here should be full well able
to do a search on it rather than wait patiently in the dark, if they care to.
Aster
.
Dana Carpender
Amy, just looked and, yes, both your dress and the bridesmaids dresses
are lovely. Simple, tasteful, elegant. You will not look like a
meringue! (See Four Weddings and a Funeral...)
What ever flowers you choose, I'm sure it will be a beautiful event.
--
Dana W. Carpender
Author, How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet -- And Lost Forty Pounds!
http://www.holdthetoast.com
Check out our FREE Low Carb Ezine!
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>In article <3a2a0db5...@news.shore.net>, ride...@spamshore.net
>(dan) wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 00:35:32 -0500, Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
>> >> aren't
>> >> many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
>> >>
>> >
>> >Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
>> >attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
>>
>> LOL ! how many others got that?
>>
>
>We're up to three that have chosen to respond but, particularly given
>this group, I expect the total number is much higher. What I find most
>enjoyable about the responses is that nobody is giving away what Slaver
>Sunflowers are (though even from my original post it should be fairly
>obvious) or their origin. Sociological quesion arises as to whether
>that's because these people are trying to avoid spoiling it for others
>or (what I personally consider more likely and certainly applies to
>myself as well at times) are protecting their positions as people who
>"get it" in this case.
>
>- Joe
Frankly, I think Niven should give us more.
Wu wu!
Boron
Joe Shimkus
<Kalk...@bwu.edu> wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think Niven should give us more.
>
Go tell it on the mountain, Sister!
I was so bummed when I had finally finished all of "The Tales of Known
Space". I wanted more and he wasn't doing it. Some of the Man-Kzin War
books have been okay (particularly the early ones) but most of the
authors Niven's let in have most certainly not written stories that
maintain, IMO, the flavor the ToKS have.
- Joe "I really want more Protector stories"
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>In article <jqci2tkflu9hnrc6t...@4ax.com>, Boron Elgar
><Kalk...@bwu.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Frankly, I think Niven should give us more.
>>
>
>Go tell it on the mountain, Sister!
>
>I was so bummed when I had finally finished all of "The Tales of Known
>Space". I wanted more and he wasn't doing it. Some of the Man-Kzin War
>books have been okay (particularly the early ones) but most of the
>authors Niven's let in have most certainly not written stories that
>maintain, IMO, the flavor the ToKS have.
>
>- Joe "I really want more Protector stories"
Yah...These days I think of Niven the way I do of Woody Allen...I
like the earlier stuff a lot better.
It was because of Niven (along with Barnes & Pournelle) that I met my
husband. I had written a scathing commentary on "The Legacy of Heorot"
and posted it on a sci-fi bulletin board somewhere in '89 or '90. He
responded & the rest is history. So, even though the book sucked, I
got a real neat marriage out of it.
Boron
ctc...@my-deja.com
> It is cathedral length, and
> I'll have my hair done up somehow...
Which cathedral is it? Do you have problems with it getting caught in
the door? Is there an International Standard Mean Cathedral? Are
smaller things measured in milliCathedrals?
Greg Goss
>We're up to three that have chosen to respond but, particularly given
>this group, I expect the total number is much higher. What I find most
>enjoyable about the responses is that nobody is giving away what Slaver
>Sunflowers are (though even from my original post it should be fairly
>obvious) or their origin. Sociological quesion arises as to whether
>that's because these people are trying to avoid spoiling it for others
>or (what I personally consider more likely and certainly applies to
>myself as well at times) are protecting their positions as people who
>"get it" in this case.
"Slaver" is wrong. We're talking about a tnuctipun design here.
Swapping cryptic comments with some root in literature or TV is a
common "we're all insiders here" confirmation cue. Monty Python
references, many different SF novels, some TV shows. Geek status
comes from digesting massive quantities of widely varying information
and throwing it out at random to see if it would be recognized.
My original modemming chat handle was, for a decade or so, "As a
Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
people did not recognize.
Greg Goss
>Frankly, I think Niven should give us more.
Niven got tired of "known space". Did you ever read either of the
outlines he hacked together for "Down in Flames"?
(DiF would have been based on the premise that most of the non-human
history of known space is a deliberate hoax, and that the tnuctipun
are among us. The only reason he didn't write it is that he doesn't
do Doc Smith "battling planets" stuff well.
Imagine if you will, a two million year old technological civilization
at war with two billion angry adult Pak humans.)
Joe Shimkus
<AB831352363B8FAE.13B1B437...@lp.airnews.net>,
go...@mindlink.com wrote:
> Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
> >We're up to three that have chosen to respond but, particularly given
> >this group, I expect the total number is much higher. What I find most
> >enjoyable about the responses is that nobody is giving away what Slaver
> >Sunflowers are (though even from my original post it should be fairly
> >obvious) or their origin. Sociological quesion arises as to whether
> >that's because these people are trying to avoid spoiling it for others
> >or (what I personally consider more likely and certainly applies to
> >myself as well at times) are protecting their positions as people who
> >"get it" in this case.
>
> "Slaver" is wrong. We're talking about a tnuctipun design here.
>
Yes, they are a tnuctipun design (just as the Bandersnatchii) but they
are known throughout Known Space as Slaver Sunflowers as the tnuctipun
designed them for the Slavers (perhaps as part of their secret war; who
really knows the mind of a tnuctip?). And the Slavers still exist in
Known Space (and not in stasis fields either) as you know.
Joe Shimkus
<042775EE8A1CC8BC.98174F84...@lp.airnews.net>,
go...@mindlink.com wrote:
I read some outlines for DiF about 10 years ago. Although I personally
wouldn't have wanted him to do that to Known Space I thought it would
have been a great story. Two pan-galactic super-races kicking each
other's asses would be cool particularly if he focused a lot on their
psychologies and not so much the battles. Hell, a battle that
all-encompassing would have to be waged psychologically using everything
each race could bring to bear. For me, the psychology of the Moties was
the big draw for "Mote in God's Eye" as it was for the "elephants" in
"Footfall." In "Footfall" I couldn't wait to get through a chapter to
get to the little psychology pieces on the "elephants." Hey, maybe
that's it...he needs Pournelle to help him write DiF! Heck, now I want
him (and Pournelle) to write it.
Amy Gleason
<ket...@seemysig.com> wrote in message
news:032j2ts204pofqde7...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:06:04 -0500, Amy Gleason wrote:
>
> >Not sure what I'm going to do for flowers yet. Unfortunately, there
aren't
> >many navy flowers in the universe (or silver for that matter!).
>
> ones look so real you check them to find out!
I've considered that. The really high quality silk ones, though, are
EXTREMELY expensive!
L & k,
Amy
GrapeApe
>common "we're all insiders here" confirmation cue. Monty Python
>references, many different SF novels, some TV shows. Geek status
>comes from digesting massive quantities of widely varying information
>and throwing it out at random to see if it would be recognized.
Is there something in The Geek Code to code for overusing Monty Python quotes?
I mean, when was the last time quoting python on Usenet was actually considered
'witty'?
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GrapeApe
>> It is cathedral length, and
>> I'll have my hair done up somehow...
>
>Which cathedral is it? Do you have problems with it getting caught in
>the door? Is there an International Standard Mean Cathedral? Are
>smaller things measured in milliCathedrals?
That is an excellent question, worthy of Cecil I think.
When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very small
cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
Dana Carpender
GrapeApe wrote:
>
> >
> >> It is cathedral length, and
> >> I'll have my hair done up somehow...
> >
> >Which cathedral is it? Do you have problems with it getting caught in
> >the door? Is there an International Standard Mean Cathedral? Are
> >smaller things measured in milliCathedrals?
>
> That is an excellent question, worthy of Cecil I think.
>
> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very small
> cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
If I'm not much mistaken, it doesn't have to do with architecture, it
has to do with church heirarchy. A cathedral is a church where a bishop
is the cheif cleric.
Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented GrapeApe
broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
G> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral?
When it is the seat of a bishop.
G> Can you have a very
G> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
Yes. The Anglican cathedral in San Antonio is very much smaller than
even a modest-sized church.
--
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My opinions might have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
nycguy33
<3A2AB1B1...@kiva.net>
>
>
>
>GrapeApe wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> It is cathedral length, and
>> >> I'll have my hair done up somehow...
>> >
>> >Which cathedral is it? Do you have problems with it getting caught in
>> >the door? Is there an International Standard Mean Cathedral? Are
>> >smaller things measured in milliCathedrals?
>>
>> That is an excellent question, worthy of Cecil I think.
>>
>> cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>
>has to do with church heirarchy. A cathedral is a church where a bishop
>is the cheif cleric.
>--
Gary(nosig) Vellenzer
Greg Goss
immediately flunk.
seanh...@aol.com (Sean Houtman) wrote:
>From: Greg Goss go...@mindlink.com
>
>>My original modemming chat handle was, for a decade or so, "As a
>>Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
>>people did not recognize.
>
>But do you still collect the stamps?
Stamps?
Chris
<go...@mindlink.com> said:
>Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>
>>Might I suggest Slaver Sunflowers? Of course, you'd probably want your
>>attendees covered in SPF5000 from head to toe.
>
>She could hold it in the pacific northwest. Not much hazard from
>sunflowers in Seattle or Vancouver some times of the year.
Amend that to *most* times of the year, please.
It occurs to me that if Amy goes for them, she'd *have* to make sure no-one
used flashbulbs.
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>Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
>people did not recognize.
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Jose (JRDelirio) Diaz
Lars Eighner wrote in message <86puj9yux...@dumpster.io.com>...
>In our last episode, <20001203152510...@ng-cs1.aol.com>,
>the lovely and talented GrapeApe
>broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>G> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral?
>
>When it is the seat of a bishop.
>
>G> Can you have a very
>G> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>
>Yes. The Anglican cathedral in San Antonio is very much smaller than
>even a modest-sized church.
>
And the Cathedral of San Juan (PR) is smaller than quite a few of the
churches in the archdiocese, and not as grand as some of those (and
definitely neither as big or as grand as one of our televangelists' Prayer
Temple) But it does have a few centuries' seniority on all but a handful
of other churches in the entire island. And there would be dire
church-political *and* common-political consequences to building a newer,
grander cathedral in a less crowded neighborhood (like Baltimore did)
Then there's also the term "Basilica", literally a "royal" church, which is
more related to a church's historical importance.
ctc...@my-deja.com
Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
>
>
> If I'm not much mistaken, it doesn't have to do with architecture, it
> has to do with church heirarchy. A cathedral is a church where a
bishop
> is the cheif cleric.
A bishop will obviously has a large support staff, so this question is
more a matter of technicality than practice: Is there a priest
officially designated to take care of the things in the cathedral that
a priest would normally take care of in a regular church, or does the
bishop have that responsibility? i.e. if the diocese was a state,
would the bishop be both governor of the state and mayor of the capital
city, or just governor with someone else serving as mayor?
Nick Spalding
> A bishop will obviously has a large support staff, so this question is
> more a matter of technicality than practice: Is there a priest
> officially designated to take care of the things in the cathedral that
> a priest would normally take care of in a regular church, or does the
> bishop have that responsibility? i.e. if the diocese was a state,
> would the bishop be both governor of the state and mayor of the capital
> city, or just governor with someone else serving as mayor?
In a Church of England cathedral there is generally what is effectively
a board of management consisting of a Dean as CEO and a number of
Canons, some permanently attached to the cathedral and some drawn from
among the priests of parishes within the diocese, collectively known as
the Chapter.
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>Yes, they are a tnuctipun design (just as the Bandersnatchii) but they
>are known throughout Known Space as Slaver Sunflowers as the tnuctipun
>designed them for the Slavers (perhaps as part of their secret war; who
>really knows the mind of a tnuctip?).
They were...on the day the war started in earnest, the sunflowers
turned on their 'owners'.
>And the Slavers still exist in
>Known Space (and not in stasis fields either) as you know.
Question mark?
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Michael Lorton
> In article <3A2AB1B1...@kiva.net>,
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If I'm not much mistaken, it doesn't have to do with architecture, it
> > has to do with church heirarchy. A cathedral is a church where a
> bishop
> > is the cheif cleric.
Literally, a "cathedral" is a chair. It's the bishop's seat -- I
assume it has to be a church as well, but in any case, it's the
bishop's HQ.
> A bishop will obviously has a large support staff, so this question is
> more a matter of technicality than practice: Is there a priest
> officially designated to take care of the things in the cathedral that
> a priest would normally take care of in a regular church, or does the
> bishop have that responsibility?
There are a group of priests called the "chapter of canons"
responsible for running a cathedral. The priests were called canons
as an abbreviation for "canonicus", "living under the rule"; the
etymology is related to, but not identical to, that of "canon" in the
sense of "standard" or "law".
This system is discussed in Ken Follet's _Pillars of the Earth_. And
presumbly other books as well, but none with so many sword-fights and
sex scenes.
M.
B. Simons
ctc...@my-deja.com wrote in message <90f9bj$7g0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
In the Roman Catholic Church, a cathedral is where a bishop, who is head of
a diocese, is the chief cleric (there are bishops who have other jobs than
heading up a diocese, and the churches where these bishops say mass are not
necessarily cathedrals).
A cathedral is necessarily somewhat large, as it is the regular scene of
ceremonies that draw participants from all over the diocese - usually a
sizable number of people. If it were not large, there would be people
standing around in the parking lot, unable to get in.
It is usually architecturally impressive, because the people in the diocese
usually desire to make their cathedral live up to it's name. But in any
case, a church does not get termed a "cathedral" because it's large and
impressive; it is made large and impressive because it's a cathedral.
While the cathedral in my diocese (St. Joseph the Workman, in LaCrosse) is a
large and impressive church; there are a number of churches in the diocese
that match it in size and impact. They aren't The Cathedral, though.
As for the other question, generally, yes. The cathedral also functions as
a parish church, and there is usually a priest or auxiliary bishop - type
person who has the duty of seeing to the day-to-day operations of the
cathedral parish ("Cathedral Rector", I think, but I could be wrong). I'm
not sure if this is an absolute requirement, or just the way, as a matter of
practicality, that it is customarily done.
To continue with your analogy, I believe the way it is, is that the Bishop
is titularly both "governor" and "mayor"; but for the second part, there is
nearly always a "deputy mayor" who actually performs all the duties of the
"mayor's" office.
Fred Simons
Rich Clancey
+ ctc...@my-deja.com writes:
+ > In article <3A2AB1B1...@kiva.net>,
+ > Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
+ > >
+ > >
+ > > If I'm not much mistaken, it doesn't have to do with architecture, it
+ > > has to do with church heirarchy. A cathedral is a church where a
+ > bishop
+ > > is the cheif cleric.
+ Literally, a "cathedral" is a chair. It's the bishop's seat -- I
+ assume it has to be a church as well, but in any case, it's the
+ bishop's HQ.
Are you politely referring to the bishop's seat as his Hind
Quarters?
+ > A bishop will obviously has a large support staff, so this question is
+ > more a matter of technicality than practice: Is there a priest
+ > officially designated to take care of the things in the cathedral that
+ > a priest would normally take care of in a regular church, or does the
+ > bishop have that responsibility?
+ There are a group of priests called the "chapter of canons"
+ responsible for running a cathedral. The priests were called canons
+ as an abbreviation for "canonicus", "living under the rule"; the
+ etymology is related to, but not identical to, that of "canon" in the
+ sense of "standard" or "law".
+ This system is discussed in Ken Follet's _Pillars of the Earth_. And
+ presumbly other books as well, but none with so many sword-fights and
+ sex scenes.
If you really want a good depiction of the system behind the
scenes, and can sit still for a few hours without any sex or sword
fights, Trollope's novels are wonderful. "Barchester Towers" is a
wonderful treatment of a fictional 19th century Church of England
Cathedral town and the idiotic politics surrounding the bishop. In
this case, the new bishop is a total zero, and three other people
(including his wife) believe they are the real power behind the
cathedra.
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Rich Clancey
+ In article <90a00d$ro8$1...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
+ "Amy Gleason" <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
+ > It is cathedral length, and
+ > I'll have my hair done up somehow...
+ Which cathedral is it? Do you have problems with it getting caught in
+ the door? Is there an International Standard Mean Cathedral? Are
+ smaller things measured in milliCathedrals?
+ Xho
A Cathedral is the length of a metric buttload at standard
temperature and pressure.
Greg Goss
>From: Greg Goss go...@mindlink.com
>
>>>>My original modemming chat handle was, for a decade or so, "As a
>>>>Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
>>>>people did not recognize.
>>>
>>>But do you still collect the stamps?
>>
>>Stamps?
>
>Well, you were referring to Puce Stamps, Walt Kelley's take off on Green
>Stamps, et.al, weren't you?
Actually, no. I'm not up on Pogo trivia at all. As-a-[mauve] is the
mistranslation of a character named after a famous author. I never
got it until towards the end of my second read of "The Flying
Sorcerers" by Niven and Gerrold. The book is full of in-joke
references to the SF community as of the late sixties.
Sean Houtman
>>>My original modemming chat handle was, for a decade or so, "As a
>>>Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
>>>people did not recognize.
>>
>>But do you still collect the stamps?
>
>Stamps?
>
>
Well, you were referring to Puce Stamps, Walt Kelley's take off on Green
Stamps, et.al, weren't you?
Sean
Chris
ctc...@my-deja.com said:
<snip>
>A bishop will obviously has a large support staff, so this question is
>more a matter of technicality than practice: Is there a priest
>officially designated to take care of the things in the cathedral that
>a priest would normally take care of in a regular church, or does the
>bishop have that responsibility? i.e. if the diocese was a state,
>would the bishop be both governor of the state and mayor of the capital
>city, or just governor with someone else serving as mayor?
Some have mentioned the Dean [1] & Chapter; that, however, is more
concerned with the diocese than the cathedral's parish.
The bishop is, in theory, reponsible for the cathedral's parish. However,
the actual responsibility is delegated to someone else. There's probably
some ordinary priest taking care of the parish.
[1] In some branches of Orthodoxy, and *maybe* in Catholicism, there's an
office called the Archdeacon; IIRC, he oversees the priests of the diocese.
Barry Nos Sher
wrote:
>On 03 Dec 2000 20:25:10 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>
>>When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very small
>>cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>
>
>Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central diocesan church, in
>the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox traditions.
Don't forget the Episcopalians . . .
>
"Cathedral - an Episcopal Church which is the official church of a
bishop of a diocese; sometimes such churches are indicated by the word
Cathedral in their name, but not always. Cathedrals are usually in the
charge of a priest who is referred to as the Dean of the Cathedral;
such Deans are referred to as "The Very Reverend...". Not all large
churches are cathedrals; not all cathedrals are large."
from http://www.vergers.org/glossary.htm#- C -
Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented Barry Nos Sher
broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
BNS> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:30:53 -0600,
BNS> GO-SPAM-YO-...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>> On 03 Dec 2000 20:25:10 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>>
>>> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very
>>> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>>
>>
>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
>> traditions.
BNS> Don't forget the Episcopalians . . .
Episcopalians are Anglicans.
Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton
> Literally, a "cathedral" is a chair.
Not quite IMHO; more like, 'literally, a "cathedral" is a "chair-al"'. Cathedra
is the chair, or seat, and "a cathedral church" is a type of church that's
characterised by its having a cathedra. I think that "cathedral" was originally
an adjective that turned into a noun later on, and that the -al ending shows
this "quality" thing, sort of like "final" = "having an ending [Lat. fine(?)]"
or "universal".
Cheers,
Philip
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Barry Nos Sher
>In our last episode, <3a2c5db7....@news.concentric.net>,
>the lovely and talented Barry Nos Sher
>broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>BNS> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:30:53 -0600,
>BNS> GO-SPAM-YO-...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>
>>> On 03 Dec 2000 20:25:10 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>>>
>>>> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very
>>>> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>>>
>>>
>>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
>>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
>>> traditions.
>
>BNS> Don't forget the Episcopalians . . .
>
>Episcopalians are Anglicans.
>
You're rigfht, of course. Though the American Episcopalians have had
their own episcopate and Book of Common Prayer since 1789.
Barry Nos Sher
>In our last episode, <3a2c5db7....@news.concentric.net>,
>the lovely and talented Barry Nos Sher
>broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>BNS> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:30:53 -0600,
>BNS> GO-SPAM-YO-...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>
>>> On 03 Dec 2000 20:25:10 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>>>
>>>> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very
>>>> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
>>>
>>>
>>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
>>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
>>> traditions.
>
>BNS> Don't forget the Episcopalians . . .
>
>Episcopalians are Anglicans.
I've done some more reading on the subject and have learned, somewhat
to my chagrin, that you are correct. I didn't understand that, while
the Episcopal church did break away from the Church of England, they
are both part of the Anglican Communion.
I should never have doubted you.
Dana Carpender
Barry Nos Sher wrote:
>
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 09:09:35 GMT, Lars Eighner <eig...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >In our last episode, <3a2c5db7....@news.concentric.net>,
> >the lovely and talented Barry Nos Sher
> >broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> >
> >BNS> On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:30:53 -0600,
> >BNS> GO-SPAM-YO-...@bigfoot.com wrote:
> >
> >>> On 03 Dec 2000 20:25:10 GMT, grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> When exactly does a Church become a Cathedral? Can you have a very
> >>>> small cathedral being smaller than a very large Church?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
> >>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
> >>> traditions.
> >
> >BNS> Don't forget the Episcopalians . . .
> >
> >Episcopalians are Anglicans.
>
> I've done some more reading on the subject and have learned, somewhat
> to my chagrin, that you are correct. I didn't understand that, while
> the Episcopal church did break away from the Church of England, they
> are both part of the Anglican Communion.
>
> I should never have doubted you.
I am an Anglican,
I am CE!
Not a high church,
Nor a low church,
But a Protestant Episcopal and free!
Not a Presby,
Nor a Lutheran,
Nor a Catholic white with foam!
I am an Anglican, one step from Rome!
I am an Anlican, via media, boom-boom.
Can you tell I went to church camp as a child?
--
Dana W."Still miss Eagle's Nest every summer." Carpender
Mike Muth
On 3-Dec-2000, seanh...@aol.com (Sean Houtman) wrote:
> From: Greg Goss go...@mindlink.com
> >My original modemming chat handle was, for a decade or so, "As a
> >Colour - Shade of Purple-Gray", a link that a surprising number of
> >people did not recognize.
[Piggy-backing as Greg Gross' message was not on my server]
I rather enjoyed that book.
Mike
Rich Clancey
[bewildering nesting of quotes, leading to:]
+ >>>
+ >>>
+ >>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
+ >>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
+ >>> traditions.
+ >
So, to recapitulate. It doesn't matter how big it is, it's
what they do with it.
Tamex
wrote:
>I am an Anglican,
>I am CE!
>Not a high church,
>Nor a low church,
>But a Protestant Episcopal and free!
>Not a Presby,
>Nor a Lutheran,
>Nor a Catholic white with foam!
>I am an Anglican, one step from Rome!
>I am an Anlican, via media, boom-boom.
>
>Can you tell I went to church camp as a child?
"Catholic white with foam"? Pray tell, what is this supposed to mean?
--
Tamex
"When I think back to all the crap I learned in high school,
it's a wonder I can think at all."
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Dana Carpender
Tamex wrote:
>
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 10:39:40 -0500, Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I am an Anglican,
> >I am CE!
> >Not a high church,
> >Nor a low church,
> >But a Protestant Episcopal and free!
> >Not a Presby,
> >Nor a Lutheran,
> >Nor a Catholic white with foam!
> >I am an Anglican, one step from Rome!
> >I am an Anlican, via media, boom-boom.
> >
> >Can you tell I went to church camp as a child?
>
> "Catholic white with foam"? Pray tell, what is this supposed to mean?
I haven't the foggiest, unless it's just a holdover from the original
lyrics of God Bless America, to which tune this little ditty is sung.
Hey, I was a kid, what did I know?
--
Dana W. Carpender
StarChaser_Tyger
>"Catholic white with foam"? Pray tell, what is this supposed to mean?
Catholics...<swat! Bad tiger! Get your mind out of the gutter...>
Dana Carpender
StarChaser_Tyger wrote:
>
> What's that, Lassie? ta...@RICHARDNIXONfrontiernet.net (Tamex) said,
>
> >"Catholic white with foam"? Pray tell, what is this supposed to mean?
>
> Catholics...<swat! Bad tiger! Get your mind out of the gutter...>
Now you've got me wondering what the heck you were thinking...
GrapeApe
Was Earnest Noyes Brookings your camp counselor by any chance?
What the heck is a catholic white with foam?
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Michael Lorton
> [bewildering nesting of quotes, leading to:]
> + >>>
> + >>>
> + >>> Size has nothing to do with it. The cathedral is the central
> + >>> diocesan church, in the Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox
> + >>> traditions.
> + >
>
> So, to recapitulate. It doesn't matter how big it is, it's
> what they do with it.
"Why do I suspect Rich finds himself telling people that a lot?"
[Hey, totally cheap shot, but I can't resist cheap shots.]
M.