SelectSmart
xho...@gmail.com
http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
Anyone better at finding it than I am?
Xho
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jeffinputnam
> Presidential candidate selector:
>
> http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
>
> Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
> matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
> html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
> On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
> Anyone better at finding it than I am?
Hmmm.... I took the poll since it was interesting. The results were as
expected though I didn't really see any lean to the questions:
Dennis Kucinich (91%)
Alan Augustson (84%)
Barack Obama (81%)
Joseph Biden (73%)
Mike Gravel (72%)
I was a little surprised that Joseph Biden showed up but who the hell is
Mike Gravel?
J
Charles Wm. Dimmick
> Presidential candidate selector:
>
> http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
>
> Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
> matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
> html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
> On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
> Anyone better at finding it than I am?
So I took the quiz.
My results for the top six:
1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Barack Obama (89%)
3. Dennis Kucinich (87%)
4. Christopher Dodd (79%)
5. Wesley Clark (78%)
6. Al Gore (76%)
7. John Edwards (76%)
xho...@gmail.com
I got this:
Dennis Kucinich (71%)
Christopher Dodd (66%)
Ron Paul (64%)
Bill Richardson (60%)
Barack Obama (58%)
But for several the questions, I might give an a different answer if I were
to take it again. Like, are raising the the SS earnings ceiling and
partial privatizations really mutually exclusive? Whether I would "favor a
government-provided, universal health care program for Americans" would
depend on what the program actually consisted of.
I'm trying to come up with a web scraper to just take the test a bunch
of times and dig out the core data that way.
Rick B.
news:5bGdnR_ptfx8Wujb...@giganews.com:
Was a Senator from Alaska in the 70s.
Greg Goss
>Mike Gravel (72%)
>
>I was a little surprised that Joseph Biden showed up but who the hell is
>Mike Gravel?
He's getting a lot of flack on the political web commentary sites for
some commercials (dunno if they're web-only, or played on-air). that
seem to just hang there, either zen-like or pointless.
In one, he builds a fire then the camera spends the endless rest of
the clip in close-up of the flames. In another (which I haven't seen
except in excerpts on the Daily Show) he tosses a large rock into a
lake then spends a minute watching the ripples before walking away.
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Boron Elgar
We already have a President who does that.
Boron
D.F. Manno
jeffinputnam <jeffin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> xho...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Presidential candidate selector:
> >
> > http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
> >
> > Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
> > matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
> > html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
> > On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
> > Anyone better at finding it than I am?
>
> Hmmm.... I took the poll since it was interesting. The results were as
> expected though I didn't really see any lean to the questions:
>
> Dennis Kucinich (91%)
> Alan Augustson (84%)
I had those two reversed, and until I took the survey I'd never even
heard of the Green Party candidate.
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D.F. Manno
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D.F. Manno
> I was a little surprised that Joseph Biden showed up but who the hell is
> Mike Gravel?
Former GOP U.S. senator from Alaska.
xho...@gmail.com
> xho...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Presidential candidate selector:
> >
> > http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
> >
> > Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole
> > data matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright
> > errors), in an html format, of candidate positions that was used by
> > their scoring system . On the current incarnation, I haven't been able
> > to find such a matrix. Anyone better at finding it than I am?
>
> Hmmm.... I took the poll since it was interesting. The results were as
> expected though I didn't really see any lean to the questions:
I didn't have much of a problem with the questions (except trade. They
should throw in one about isolationism. As it is, you can't tell the
isolationists from the apathetics, and I think "Fair trade" is kind of a
advocation phrase in the way that "free trade" is not), but the answers are
still a bit hinky, but apparently not as bad as last time.
On question 18, Tommy Thompson strongly supports allowing citizens to buy
drugs from Canada. He also strongly supports allowing the government to
negotiate with drug makers for better prices. He also strongly supports
both of the above. But wait, there's more....He also strongly supports
none of the above. Talk about having your cake and eating it to. (And Alan
Auguston supports "both of the above" without actually supporting either of
the above separately. Most of the Democrats support "both of the above"
both together and separately.)
Bill Richardson both strongly supports and strongly opposes the
environmental positions like those of the league of conservation voters.
Dilbert Firestorm
>Presidential candidate selector:
>
>http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
>
>Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
>matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
>html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
>On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
>Anyone better at finding it than I am?
>
>Xho
>
>
*Tom Tancredo (67%)*
*Duncan Hunter (65%)*
*Ron Paul (62%)*
*John McCain (58%)*
*Mitt Romney (56%)*
***Chuck Hagel ****(55%)*
heh, I'm surprised to see McCain in 4th place in my picks.
Pixel Dent
"Charles Wm. Dimmick" <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
> xho...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Presidential candidate selector:
> >
> > http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
> >
> > Last time we discussed this site, there was a page that had the whole data
> > matrix, (which had several contradictions, if not outright errors), in an
> > html format, of candidate positions that was used by their scoring system .
> > On the current incarnation, I haven't been able to find such a matrix.
> > Anyone better at finding it than I am?
>
> So I took the quiz.
I was surprised that Hagel and McCain ended up so high since I consider
them very weak on civil liberties, but I think the quiz in general
underrepresented those issues.
1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Kent McManigal (77%) Click here for info
3. Chuck Hagel (64%) Click here for info
4. Ron Paul (62%) Click here for info
5. Newt Gingrich (60%) Click here for info
6. John McCain (56%) Click here for info
Rick B.
> So I took the quiz.
> My results for the top six:
>
> 1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
"Theo" is da bomb. But do you ever see him on TV, or quoted in the
papers? Nooo. *THEY* don't want you to know about him!
Jeannie
next percentage point was Ron Paul at 53%, followed by Al Gore at 50%.
(Nooooo!!!)
Jeannie
thought I was even tweaking for the Libertarian candidate
Rick B.
news:KVzdi.183548$nh4.1...@newsfe20.lga:
> I was surprised that Hagel and McCain ended up so high since I consider
> them very weak on civil liberties, but I think the quiz in general
> underrepresented those issues.
>
> 1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
> 2. Kent McManigal (77%) Click here for info
> 3. Chuck Hagel (64%) Click here for info
> 4. Ron Paul (62%) Click here for info
> 5. Newt Gingrich (60%) Click here for info
> 6. John McCain (56%) Click here for info
I tried putting together a very strong libertarian answer set, tweaked it a
couple times and came up with a list that yielded a 100% match on
McManigal.
("H" indicates a high priority, others were low):
1-oppose
2-deadline
3-protect H
4-other options
5-neither
6-neither
7-support both
8-free trade H
9-anti-tax H
10-neither H
11-neither
12-pro-choice H
13-neither
14-decriminalization
15-oppose
16-oppose
17-oppose H
18-favor allowing citizens
19-neither
20-more open H
21-none of the above
22-(left blank)
23-not important
24-(left blank)
25-(left blank)
Scores for the others with these answers:
Ron Paul (73%)
Chuck Hagel (58%)
Dennis Kucinich (56%)
Al Gore (55%)
Bill Richardson (55%)
John McCain (53%)
Newt Gingrich (53%)
Barack Obama (52%)
Mitt Romney (52%)
Hillary Clinton (51%)
Joseph Biden (51%)
Alan Augustson (50%)
Wesley Clark (47%)
Christopher Dodd (46%)
Rudolph Giuliani (46%)
Mike Gravel (45%)
Fred Thompson (43%)
Tom Tancredo (43%)
Sam Brownback (42%)
John Edwards (41%)
Duncan Hunter (37%)
Mike Huckabee (30%)
Jim Gilmore (28%)
Tommy Thompson (26%)
Elaine Brown (20%)
xho...@gmail.com
Ron Paul basically is a libertarian, despite not being the Libertarian.
xho...@gmail.com
> In article <5bGdnR_ptfx8Wujb...@giganews.com>,
> jeffinputnam <jeffin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was a little surprised that Joseph Biden showed up but who the hell
> > is Mike Gravel?
>
> Former GOP U.S. senator from Alaska.
He is a Democrat now. I'm pretty sure he was back then, too.
Dilbert Firestorm
>Jeannie <hpje...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>How depressing. After My Ideal Theoretical Candidate at 100%, the
>>next percentage point was Ron Paul at 53%, followed by Al Gore at 50%.
>>(Nooooo!!!)
>>
>>Jeannie
>>thought I was even tweaking for the Libertarian candidate
>>
>
>Ron Paul basically is a libertarian, despite not being the Libertarian.
>
>Xho
>
to put it more accurately, hes libertarian-republican.
Jeannie
> xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
Yabbut, for me he needs to switch a few of his republican responses to
libertarian, and vice versa.
Jeannie
was hoping for a 75+% match...looks like '08 will be another vote for
the least worst candidate
xho...@gmail.com
> On Jun 18, 9:52 pm, Dilbert Firestorm <scan...@byteme.com> wrote:
> > xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >Jeannie<hpjean...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>How depressing. After My Ideal Theoretical Candidate at 100%, the
> > >>next percentage point was Ron Paul at 53%, followed by Al Gore at
> > >>50%. (Nooooo!!!)
> >
> > >>Jeannie
> > >>thought I was even tweaking for the Libertarian candidate
> >
> > >Ron Paul basically is a libertarian, despite not being the
> > >Libertarian.
> >
>
> Yabbut, for me he needs to switch a few of his republican responses to
> libertarian, and vice versa.
Out of curiosity, which ones?
D.F. Manno
wrote:
> "D.F. Manno" <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > jeffinputnam <jeffin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I was a little surprised that Joseph Biden showed up but who the hell
> > > is Mike Gravel?
> >
> > Former GOP U.S. senator from Alaska.
>
> He is a Democrat now. I'm pretty sure he was back then, too.
Yes, he is and was. my mistake.