Chet Atkins, 1924-2001. RIP.
Jason Quick
*sigh*
Jason
Amy Austin
> Dammit. Dammit.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Jason
The diet guy? I can understand Dana being upset, but...
L & k,
Amy
Joe Shimkus
<Pine.SOL.4.33.010701...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
I think he means the guy who is 5th cousin thrice removed to Scott
Trimble. You know, he guitarist.
See http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010630/18/ent-obit-atkins
- Joe
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Jason Quick
Oof. Tell me you're kidding.
Just one of the greatest git-tar players ever.
Jason
Gary S. Callison
: On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Jason Quick wrote:
: > *sigh*
: The diet guy? I can understand Dana being upset, but...
No. An exceptionally gifted guitarist that your lack of awareness of
exposes a huge cultural literacy gap.
Go to a record store, buy a Chet Atkins album or three, and listen to
them.
Then sigh.
The world has lost another master.
--
Huey
K.D.
"Gary S. Callison" <hu...@interaccess.com> wrote in message
>
> No. An exceptionally gifted guitarist that your lack of awareness of
> exposes a huge cultural literacy gap.
Yeah, it seemed a naive / uninformed question to me, as well. However, I
remember when Bear Bryant died, and I said, "Who's Bear Bryant?" (I really
had no earthly idea.) My husband was stunned. So much so that, 18 year or
so later, it's still a family joke.
All people cannot know and be informed about all areas of life. My point?
No need to be insulting.
-KD
N Jill Marsh
>All people cannot know and be informed about all areas of life. My point?
>No need to be insulting.
"?????????????? Do you think about this stuff or read it before you
post it? What kind of ludicrous response is that?"
"So, what freakin' bug do you happen to have up your butt? Take it
elsewhere -- this is boring and you're making a fool of yourself."
Actually, I thought Amy was making a pretty good joke; though I'm
feeling particularly serene today - must have been all those carbs.
nj" Mrs. X please: Saint or Canadian?"m
"This old motel room, is losing its view.
Could you act a little crazier?
Just like she used to."
Amy Austin
> "Amy Austin" <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Jason Quick wrote:
> >
> > > Dammit. Dammit.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > Jason
> >
> > The diet guy? I can understand Dana being upset, but...
>
> Oof. Tell me you're kidding.
Well, that was my first thought, then I looked him up on Google, then I
decided to have a little fun anyway...
> Just one of the greatest git-tar players ever.
You're a little bit country, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll.
L & k,
Amy
GrapeApe
>
>*sigh*
>
>Jason
F***. I should have known I had lost my last chance to run into him around
town, last public event I saw him at he was showing his years a bit.
GrapeApe
>remember when Bear Bryant died, and I said, "Who's Bear Bryant?" (I really
>had no earthly idea.) My husband was stunned. So much so that, 18 year or
>so later, it's still a family joke.
You realize,for Alabamans, that is like saying "God who?"
GrapeApe
>> >
>> > *sigh*
>> >
>> > Jason
>>
>> The diet guy? I can understand Dana being upset, but...
>>
>
>Oof. Tell me you're kidding.
>
>Just one of the greatest git-tar players ever.
>
Oh was he in that band Wings or something? What kind of a name for a band is
that? They must have sucked.
Big Iron5
out.
Joe Shimkus
bigi...@aol.com (Big Iron5) wrote:
> Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't pan
> out.
Well, we did lose Jack Lemmon. Not music but definitely the performing
arts. I'll miss Jack more than Chet.
Big David
news:joe-F7E8BC.1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> In article <20010701161747...@ng-fg1.aol.com>,
> bigi...@aol.com (Big Iron5) wrote:
>
> > Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't
pan
> > out.
>
> Well, we did lose Jack Lemmon. Not music but definitely the performing
> arts. I'll miss Jack more than Chet.
I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone please
keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and helicopters for the
next six months or so.
--
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Email copy of replies appreciated
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Joe Shimkus
"Big David" <david...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote in message
> news:joe-F7E8BC.1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > In article <20010701161747...@ng-fg1.aol.com>,
> > bigi...@aol.com (Big Iron5) wrote:
> >
> > > Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't
> pan
> > > out.
> >
> > Well, we did lose Jack Lemmon. Not music but definitely the performing
> > arts. I'll miss Jack more than Chet.
>
> I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone
> please
> keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and helicopters for
> the
> next six months or so.
Sure, that's why I put the qualifier about Jack not being music.
Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
Big David
> "Big David" <david...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote in message
> > > > Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing
doesn't
> > pan out.
> > > Well, we did lose Jack Lemmon. Not music but definitely the performing
> > > arts. I'll miss Jack more than Chet.
> > I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone
> > please keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and
helicopters >>for the next six months or so.
> Sure, that's why I put the qualifier about Jack not being music.
Ah, ok. ::Zoom::
> Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
> a helicopter crash. Bummed me out.
He's terrific isn't he? I also enjoy Dave Davies work (The Kinks), Randy Rhodes
(RIP), Eddie Van Halen (although he hasn't done much innovative work in recent
years), Jimi (of course), and Richie Kotzen, former lead guitarist for heavy
metal group Poison, whose roots are really in the blues, among others (Clapton,
Beck, Knofler, Waters, Vai, Malmstein).
> And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
> haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
Wish I knew, cause he is really good.
Gary S. Callison
: On Sun, 01 Jul 2001 18:05:16 GMT, "K.D." <kaye...@hotmail.com>wrote:
: >All people cannot know and be informed about all areas of life. My
: >point? No need to be insulting.
: "?????????????? Do you think about this stuff or read it before you
: post it? What kind of ludicrous response is that?"
: "So, what freakin' bug do you happen to have up your butt? Take it
: elsewhere -- this is boring and you're making a fool of yourself."
: Actually, I thought Amy was making a pretty good joke; though I'm
: feeling particularly serene today - must have been all those carbs.
Yeah, sure. "A guy a lot of people liked is dead. I know! I'll make a
funny joke about it! I'm sure everyone will love that!"
--
Huey
Oh- didja see that 'Dale Earnhardt Child Safety Seat' on eBay? Wasn't that
hilarious? Man...
Amy Austin
Oh, Huey, relax. It isn't like I said, "Good riddance, that guy was a
cheeseball," or something... I didn't recognize the name. When I first
read it, I thought that the OP *was* talking about the Atkins diet guy,
which I realized was pretty stupid, and then I looked it up... So I said,
"The diet guy?" is that really making fun of the dead? I don't think so.
L & k,
Amy
GrapeApe
>pan
>> > out.
>>
>> Well, we did lose Jack Lemmon. Not music but definitely the performing
>> arts. I'll miss Jack more than Chet.
>
>I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone
>please
>keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and helicopters for
>the
>next six months or so.
Jacks threes would be with Tony Quinn.
Kenny Wayne Shepherd, I don't think will stand the test of time to be
considered great.
And the things in Threes, usually resets the counter in a tighter time frame
than six months. Usually its more like within ten days.
GrapeApe
>a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
>haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
Neither has he.
(jumping forward to see who else jumped on the set up...)
Joe Shimkus
grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
> >Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
> >a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
> >haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
>
> Neither has he.
Don't let Amy hear you say that. Then again, she probably doesn't know
about him; plus, he's Canadian.
Gary S. Callison
: Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't pan
: out.
I hate to say this.
<http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/henderson.obit.reut/index.html>
Joe Henderson. Damn.
--
Huey
Amy Austin
> In article <20010701194004...@ng-md1.aol.com>,
> grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
>
> > >Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
> > >a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
> > >haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
> >
> > Neither has he.
>
> Don't let Amy hear you say that. Then again, she probably doesn't know
> about him; plus, he's Canadian.
Now now now. Let's not get snippy. Doesn't he sing that song that goes:
I never want to f*&)ing see you again,
You've always been a bitch, since I can't remember when,
And you irritate my brain, and you're driving me insane,
No I never want to f*&)ing see your ugly ass again,
Tell me, why'd you have to be such a bitch?
I like Barenaked Ladies, and they're Canadian.
L & k,
Amy
Amy Austin
Who?
(Note that I refrained from asking about anyone else who happens to be
named Henderson.)
L & k,
Amy
Joe Shimkus
Healy's work has never been so crass.
> I like Barenaked Ladies, and they're Canadian.
I like barenaked ladies irrespective of national origin.
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> > So I said,
> > "The diet guy?" is that really making fun of the dead? I don't think so.
>
> Yeah. Right. I'm sure that's what you did.
>
> Why can't people simply own up to their dumb mistakes?
I said something about, "I can understand why Dana would be upset..."
implying that it was DR. Atkins, and not the actual person who died, who
died. In a nutshell, I said, "the diet guy". I still don't see what you
people are all pissed over.
Amy Austin
In fact, that's *exactly* what I said:
The diet guy? I can understand Dana being upset, but...
Christ.
Amy Austin
> In article
> <Pine.SOL.4.33.010701...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Joe Shimkus wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Don't let Amy hear you say that. Then again, she probably doesn't know
> > > about him; plus, he's Canadian.
> >
> > Now now now. Let's not get snippy. Doesn't he sing that song that goes:
> >
> > I never want to f*&)ing see you again,
> > You've always been a bitch, since I can't remember when,
> > And you irritate my brain, and you're driving me insane,
> > No I never want to f*&)ing see your ugly ass again,
> > Tell me, why'd you have to be such a bitch?
>
> Healy's work has never been so crass.
Oh. Does anyone know who sings that? It's a pretty funny song. I think
it is the same group that does "Bitchin' Camaro".
> > I like Barenaked Ladies, and they're Canadian.
>
> I like barenaked ladies irrespective of national origin.
Tee hee.
L & k,
Amy
Dutch Courage
>> Just one of the greatest git-tar players ever.
>
>You're a little bit country, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll.
>
heh. That's pretty funny.
-"Ain't gonna hang no picture, ain't gonna hang no picture frame
ain't gonna hang no picture, ain't gonna hang no picture frame
Well, I might look like Robert Ford, but I feel just like Jesse James"
Gary S. Callison
: On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Gary S. Callison wrote:
: > Big Iron5 (bigi...@aol.com) wrote:
: > : Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing
: > : doesn't pan out.
: > I hate to say this.
: > <http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/henderson.obit.reut/index.html>
: > Joe Henderson. Damn.
: Who?
Look! There's a URL! You could read it! And maybe go get some of his
albums too!
And send me an email when you're not a tedious and stupid little bitch!
*plonk*
--
Huey
Big Iron5
>>> Just one of the greatest git-tar players ever.
>>
>>You're a little bit country, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll.
>>
>
>heh. That's pretty funny.
Not bad -- but Chet transcended "country" music. Words are inadequate to do
his greatness justice. No, I'm not kidding.
Big Iron5
>> : Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't
>pan
>> : out.
>>
>> I hate to say this.
>>
>>
><http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/01/henderson.obit.reut/index.html>
>>
>> Joe Henderson. Damn.
>
>Who?
What, didn't the URL work for you?
Jason Quick
>
> I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone
please
> keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and helicopters
for the
> next six months or so.
Shit, BB is jus' plain old? He could kick off anyway, without help from
Sikorsky.
Jason
Big Iron5
> >Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
> >a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
> >haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
>
> Neither has he.
Didn't he have a release on a Euro label last year? "Get Me Some" (or "Get Me
Some More") -- something like that?
Jason Quick
WTF?!?! What is this shit?!? Who's next, or should I even ask?!?
Jason
Jason Quick
> Oh. Does anyone know who sings that? It's a pretty funny song. I think
> it is the same group that does "Bitchin' Camaro".
Wow. Thread merge. The Dead Milkmen are who yer thinking of.
Jason
Big Iron5
>> I think BI is scared we'll lose another great guitarist shortly. Someone
>please
>> keep Kenny Wayne Shepherd and B.B. King off of airplanes and helicopters
>for the
>> next six months or so.
>
>Shit, BB is jus' plain old? He could kick off anyway, without help from
>Sikorsky.
Hey he's a pup of 75 ( a year or two younger than Gatemouth Brown, who, FWIW, I
hold in higher regard). I'm more worried about Robert "Junior" Lockwood.
UFO_Charlie
>Who's next, or should I even ask?!?
Probably not:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/29/ofarrill.obit/index.html
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N Jill Marsh
<j...@shimkus.com>wrote:
>Anyway, I had just started to get into Stevie Ray Vaughn when he died in
>a helicopter crash. Bummed me out. And what's up with Jeff Healy? I
>haven't seen any new albums out of him in years.
He had an excellent radio program awhile ago, all stuff in his
personal collection and he has a reall talent for that as well. He's
producing, doing the family thing, and does tour on occasion. But he
seems to be intentionally low profile at the moment.
njm
"This old motel room, is losing its view.
Could you act a little crazier?
Just like she used to."
Amy Austin
It didn't occur to you that I was commenting more on the fact that three
people I've never heard of died yesterday? Christ, Huey, pull a groin
muscle or something?
Amy Austin
> "Bob" will do fine.
>
> The point is you claim to have known it was the guitar great, and made the
> comment anyway (which would have been a stupid thing to do). When more
> likely, you didn't know who it was and didn't bother to investigate before
> commenting.
>
> In my book, your dumb mistake has nothing with making fun of the dead, or
> even getting the wrong guy, but with saying, "yeah, I knew who it was all
> along, heh heh", when you so obviously didn't. Why would you make an
> excuse for something so minor? "I got the wrong guy, sorry" would have
> sufficed.
No, I looked it up right before I posted, realized that he was a musician,
thought it was funny anyway, and posted it.
Christ you guys are a bunch of snobs! So I've never heard of the three
musicians that happened to die yesterday, so I think that's weird.
Weren't we JUST talking about cultural literacy? I may not be literate in
*your* culture, but you're probably not literate in mine, either.
K.D.
"Bob Geary" <Please...@here.invalid>
>
> The point is you claim to have known it was the guitar great, and made the
> comment anyway (which would have been a stupid thing to do). When more
> likely, you didn't know who it was and didn't bother to investigate before
> commenting.
>
> In my book, your dumb mistake has nothing with making fun of the dead, or
> even getting the wrong guy, but with saying, "yeah, I knew who it was all
> along, heh heh", when you so obviously didn't. Why would you make an
> excuse for something so minor? "I got the wrong guy, sorry" would have
> sufficed.
Maybe it's because people jumped on her and she got defensive?
Haven't you ever had a little mental meltdown like that, and not recognized
something very common that you know very well? I specifically recall
someone discussing euthanasia once. Well, duh, naturally I know what the
practice of euthanasia is. But, at the time, I didn't know what the heck
the person was talking about and was totally confused as to the points he
was making. Why? Because, instead of hearing "euthanasia," I had heard
"youth in Asia."
Duh.
-KD
>
> --
> Bob G.
K.D.
"Amy Austin" <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote in message
>
> Christ you guys are a bunch of snobs! So I've never heard of the three
> musicians that happened to die yesterday, so I think that's weird.
> Weren't we JUST talking about cultural literacy? I may not be literate in
> *your* culture, but you're probably not literate in mine, either.
Touche, Amy.
A better way to point out someone's lack of knowledge about a certain
individual would, IMO, be simply to point out who / what the person was,
without any snide remarks about the intelligence, cultural literacy, etc. of
the person being corrected and enlightened.
When Steve Allen recently passed away, I mentioned it to quite a few people.
Many people did not, at first, recognize the name or remembered hearing
about his death. When I gave them a few clues, most people eventually
recalled the man. However, most had only some vague recollections of Steve
Allen in his TV and movie rolls, but few knew of his many other esteemed
accomplishments.
For those of you here who *don't* know -- do a web search. I think you'll
be amazed and impressed. Andy Williams once aptly said, "Steve Allen does
so many things, he's the only man I know who's listed on every one of the
Yellow Pages." (What? Some of you here don't know what all those things
are? Tsk tsk.)
Anyway, there's only so much time in life. Some people invest their time
and energy in politics, sports, music, art, and various other interests.
Me? I'm not big on the sports thing, and so am abysmally ignorant about
most sports trivia and personalities. I also don't go out of my way to keep
up on the most current movies, so am fairly ignorant in that regard, as
well. Which is fine by me and I feel no lack of accomplishment or
embarrassment because of it.
I'll put myself up against most sports and movie fans, however, when it
comes to anything related to travel / world geography / famous cities of the
world, because travel has been important in my life. Ditto for knowing who
Steve Allen was and what were his life accomplishments, as well as many
topics of science.
So, "should" people be knowledgeable about all the various genres of music
if they want to be well-rounded? Maybe, maybe not -- that would be a matter
of personal choice / taste.
-KD
incandescent blue
>
> Remember the thread about what to say when dealing with someone's grief?
> Cracking jokes about a dead guy, even if he's not a close friend/relative,
> when someone is clearly expressing a bit of sadness over it is truly
> tasteless.
And it's certainly not as if one is only capable of, or allowed, to feel
grief only for close friends and kin. Public figures can touch people's
lives, and are mourned accordingly. I saw the piles of flowers and
cards and hand-scrawled tributes heaped outside embassy gates in DC in
honor of Mother Teresa and Princess Diana; how many of those people
do you think actually met either of these women? How many of the kids
standing vigil in Seattle were close personal friends of Kurt Cobain?
How many of the Beatles fans who gather in Central Park every year
were chums of John Lennon? Artists in particular have a way of coming
to feel almost like friends to those who have immersed themselves in
their works, and I can only imagine how much deeper the loss may
feel to those who work in the same field.
--
Ava Callison <die-bla...@hyacinthine.net> Washington, DC
"I'm sorry," I say, "if I give you the impression that it's only my
mouth that's rough. I do my best to be rough all over."
Peter Hoeg, _Smilla's Sense of Snow_
ctc...@hotmail.com
>
> Who?
Didn't Mr. Muppett Man die quite a while ago?
> (Note that I refrained from asking about anyone else who happens to be
> named Henderson.)
Coward
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RM Mentock
> Maybe it's because people jumped on her and she got defensive?
goes around comes around too
ah fuck i'm soory
Dana Carpender
And, to pile on an irony, Dana wasn't even following the Chet Atkins
thread, and didn't see the joke.
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Mirhanda Sarko
> Look! There's a URL! You could read it! And maybe go get some of his
> albums too!
>
> And send me an email when you're not a tedious and stupid little bitch!
>
> *plonk*
>
Huey??? I know Ava said you were a lesbian trapped in a man's body...are
you PMSing this week?
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Dana Carpender
Scratchie wrote:
>
> Big Iron5 <bigi...@aol.com> wrote:
> : Shit, John Lee and now Chet -- I hope the "comes in threes" thing doesn't pan
> : out.
>
> Joe Henderson. Not as well known as the other two but still a loss.
Or if you're just going for the general catagory of celebs, Jack
Lemmon. :-(
GrapeApe
>WTF?!?! What is this shit?!?
The natural aging of cultural icons.
GrapeApe
>Didn't Mr. Muppett Man die quite a while ago?
Do you know the Muppett Man?
UFO_Charlie
>Huey??? I know Ava said you were a lesbian trapped in a man's body...are
>you PMSing this week?
Heh...I think we may need to invent a Joan Crawford emoticon just for him.
:-)
Dutch Courage
>The point is you claim to have known it was the guitar great, and made the
>comment anyway (which would have been a stupid thing to do).
Well, unless she was, you know, teasing.
> When more
>likely, you didn't know who it was and didn't bother to investigate before
>commenting.
Let's give Amy the benefit of the doubt, though, since she's, you know, in our
club.
>
>In my book, your dumb mistake has nothing with making fun of the dead, or
>even getting the wrong guy, but with saying, "yeah, I knew who it was all
>along, heh heh", when you so obviously didn't.
Can you prove it either way, though? And if not, why get shitty with someone
that's still probably pretty trivial even if she didn't know who that was.
Dutch Courage
Date: 7/2/2001 7:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>Somehow, knowing your Alanesque inability to look things up, I doubt that.
>But if that's the case, that's even worse. Jason says, "Dammit. Dammit.
>*sigh*" and you come back with a joke.
Oh, for heaven's sake. I mean, unless Chet was Jason's favorite uncle or
something.
Dutch Courage
>Anyway, there's only so much time in life. Some people invest their time
>and energy in politics, sports, music, art, and various other interests.
>Me? I'm not big on the sports thing, and so am abysmally ignorant about
>most sports trivia and personalities.
Yabbut...I mean, I've never seen a college football game in its
entire...entira...all the way through, and I could tell you who Eddie Robinson,
Woody Hayes, George Gipp, Knute Rockne, Bear Bryant, say, are. I mean, without
even seeking out that knowledge I've managed to obtain it. If you told someone
he was a Bobby Knight type, I would know you meant short tempered and abusive,
and I think I've only seen five college basketball games.
> I also don't go out of my way to keep
>up on the most current movies, so am fairly ignorant in that regard, as
>well. Which is fine by me and I feel no lack of accomplishment or
>embarrassment because of it.
I'm not so sure you oughtn't. You ought to know what Shrek is about, say, even
just by osmosis.
>
>I'll put myself up against most sports and movie fans, however, when it
>comes to anything related to travel / world geography / famous cities of the
>world, because travel has been important in my life.
Yeah, you want to go?
> Ditto for knowing who
>Steve Allen was and what were his life accomplishments, as well as many
>topics of science.
Oh, it's on, baby.
Dutch Courage
Date: 7/2/2001 3:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>Do you know the Muppett Man?
>
The Muppett Man?
Gary S. Callison
: hu...@interaccess.com (Gary S. Callison) wrote in alt.fan.cecil-adams:
: > Look! There's a URL! You could read it! And maybe go get some of his
: > albums too!
: > And send me an email when you're not a tedious and stupid little
: > bitch!
: > *plonk*
: Huey??? I know Ava said you were a lesbian trapped in a man's
: body...are you PMSing this week?
That may have been a little harsh, sure. But the incessant vacillation
between "oh, I'm so cute" ditziness and downright bitchy catfighting with
Aster, years of "Mundane Pointless Shit", a general inability to find the
most basic information without asking here first, and a lot of posts that
evoke my "will you just shut up?" reflex just kind of came to a head when
she wants to make jokes about people I respected who have just died.
I've hurt her feelings? Well, it'd be petty of me to say "Good!", but
yesterday she was the first person in this group to really upset me in
longer than I can remember. Alan was the last one, and that was, I dunno,
six months ago?
Nope, she can sit in the Penalty Box with Dutch for a month or so.
--
Huey
Dutch Courage
Date: 7/2/2001 4:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>Nope, she can sit in the Penalty Box with Dutch for a month or so.
Oh, that'll teach her.
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Bob Geary wrote:
> >
> > > Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I said,
> > > > "The diet guy?" is that really making fun of the dead? I don't think so.
> > >
> > > Yeah. Right. I'm sure that's what you did.
> > >
> > > Why can't people simply own up to their dumb mistakes?
> >
> > I said something about, "I can understand why Dana would be upset..."
> > implying that it was DR. Atkins, and not the actual person who died, who
> > died. In a nutshell, I said, "the diet guy". I still don't see what you
> > people are all pissed over.
>
> And, to pile on an irony, Dana wasn't even following the Chet Atkins
> thread, and didn't see the joke.
...and at this point it isn't even funny, because it has been beaten to
death. Besides, isn't the Atkins diet guy's first name Kellogg or
something?
L & k,
Amy
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Gary S. Callison wrote:
> > >
> > > Joe Henderson. Damn.
> >
> > Who?
>
> Didn't Mr. Muppett Man die quite a while ago?
You know, that was my first thought too (I scan about 80% of the
posts...), but I decided, in light of the LAST time, I'd just skip it.
You're braver, or dumber, than I am. Fine line.
L & k,
Amy
Oriole Adams
>>>
>>
>>The Muppett Man?
>
>
>
The one in Drury Lane?
~ Oriole ~~
The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw...
Oriole Adams
>>Steve Allen was and what were his life accomplishments
He's the guy that wrote and recorded the classic "How's Your Sister?", of
course.
(schmock! schmock!)
K.D.
> death. Besides, isn't the Atkins diet guy's first name Kellogg or
> something?
I believe it is Robert.
-KD
Amy Austin
> hu...@interaccess.com (Gary S. Callison)
> Date: 7/2/2001 4:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>
> >Nope, she can sit in the Penalty Box with Dutch for a month or so.
>
> Oh, that'll teach her.
Oooohhh... Too bad I got hitched, we could've passed the time making out.
L & k,
Amy
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> : Christ you guys are a bunch of snobs! So I've never heard of the three
> : musicians that happened to die yesterday, so I think that's weird.
> : Weren't we JUST talking about cultural literacy? I may not be literate in
> : *your* culture, but you're probably not literate in mine, either.
> ^^^^^^
>
> I think you misplet "our".
>
> HTH,
Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
older than I am. I would say that in this rapidly changing culture of
*ours* that that makes them from a totally different subset of the culture
than I am.
I do not remember life before cable television. I vaguely remember life
before personal computers, but I can not remember a time when I wasn't
aware of computers (at least at my grandparents' business). I do not
remember the energy crisis in the 70's, the Vietnam war, or "Reaganomics".
These are things I studied in *history class*. I do not remember gas ever
being less than a dollar (it has been within my lifetime, but I didn't
care about gas prices at that time). I have never known anyone who was
born before 1900, including my great grandparents (born in 1902 and 1904).
I don't remember life before MTV, Michael Jackson, and Madonna. Ford was
president when I was born - most of the people in this group probably
voted for (or against) him. I don't remember a time when it was safe for
kids to run free from dawn to dusk. I don't remember the Cold War, except
that I thought Russia was mad at the US over the weather.
If that isn't enough evidence to prove that I grew up in a different
culture than most people over 35, I don't know what is.
L & k,
Amy
Dana Carpender
Nope. He's Bob Atkins, Robert C, MD. Trained at Cornell, specialized
in cardiology.
Would be very ironic if his name were Kellogg, seeing as John Harvey
Kellogg was one of the big early proponants of a high fiber vegetarian
diet. Also pushed yogurt enemas, up to five times a day. Sort of a
fruitcake, apparently. Very humorously portrayed in The Road to
Wellville; the book is best, but the vid is worth renting.
Dana Carpender
Oriole Adams wrote:
>
> >>>Do you know the Muppett Man?
> >>>
> >>
> >>The Muppett Man?
> >
> >The Muppet Man.
> >
> >
>
> The one in Drury Lane?
>
If you haven't yet seen Shrek, this echoes the funniest bit in the
movie. Which, by the way, is charming.
UFO_Charlie
>The point is that Atkins is part of the musical culture of our country
>whether you realize it or not.
Well, but what you're critcising is Amy's response to his death, which
hinges very much on whether she realizes it or not.
:::slinks back away from this thread:::
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> :> I think you misplet "our".
> :>
> :> HTH,
>
> : Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
> : older than I am. I would say that in this rapidly changing culture of
> : *ours* that that makes them from a totally different subset of the culture
> : than I am.
>
> The point is that Atkins is part of the musical culture of our country
> whether you realize it or not.
No, the point is that I was joking about the *name*, not making fun of the
*person* and you people are blowing it way the hell out of proportion.
Jerry Bauer
>:>
>:> HTH,
>
>: Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
>: older than I am. I would say that in this rapidly changing culture of
>: *ours* that that makes them from a totally different subset of the culture
>: than I am.
>
>whether you realize it or not.
>
John Hartford died on June fourth.
Jerry "Steamboats and Cotton" Bauer
Dutch Courage
We could do that anyway, and you can rationalize it away by saying you were
seduced by my irresistable charm, or you lost a bet, or whatever. Worried about
retributions aimed at your family, that kind of fun.
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin glea...@purdue.edu
> Date: 7/2/2001 5:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>
> >On 2 Jul 2001, Dutch Courage wrote:
> >
> >> hu...@interaccess.com (Gary S. Callison)
> >> Date: 7/2/2001 4:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
> >>
> >> >Nope, she can sit in the Penalty Box with Dutch for a month or so.
> >>
> >> Oh, that'll teach her.
> >
> >Oooohhh... Too bad I got hitched, we could've passed the time making out.
>
> We could do that anyway, and you can rationalize it away by saying you were
> seduced by my irresistable charm, or you lost a bet, or whatever. Worried about
> retributions aimed at your family, that kind of fun.
Hmmmmm... I could always call it "research" for my book. Have I told you
about my book?
L & k,
Amy
Dana Carpender
Well, you haven't told *me* about your book -- spill!
Dutch Courage
> I could always call it "research" for my book.
Now you're thinking! You'll have this "cake and eat it too" thing licked in no
time, the other important lesson you need to be a successful grownup.
> Have I told you
>about my book?
Does it have pirates, witches, or talking stuffed animals?
ctc...@hotmail.com
Actually, I'm both. Hahahahasnorthahasnorthahahaha
Oh, wait. damn.
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Gary S. Callison
: John Hartford died on June fourth.
: Jerry "Steamboats and Cotton" Bauer
No.
Dammit, _no_. That's just not fair.
Played a John Hartford disc for the wife all of a week ago. "You'll
love this guy. Seen him play live a couple times. We need to go see him
again when he comes around."
--
Huey, sad, singing along with the washing machine. "hmmMMMMMMMMMMMmmmm"...
Dutch Courage
Date: 7/2/2001 7:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>Jerry Bauer (ba...@shell3.ba.best.com) wrote:
>: John Hartford died on June fourth.
>: Jerry "Steamboats and Cotton" Bauer
>
>No.
>
>Dammit, _no_. That's just not fair.
Imagine how Opus and I feel, always knowing there will never be a seventh
Bramdenburg or Rich will never get around to writing the rest of Faust.
UFO_Charlie
>Dammit, _no_. That's just not fair.
Man. I mean, not to be insensitive, but were you, like, a fan of *everyone*?
"Little-known musician Eddington Burke died today. Burke, 73, was best known
for having played the cowbell on Blue Oyster Cult's 'Don't Fear The
Reaper'."
"No, dammit, noo! The sunshine is a little dimmer, the flowers a little less
sweet! Life has lost all of it's meaning!"
Joe Shimkus
grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote:
> >
> >Didn't Mr. Muppett Man die quite a while ago?
>
> Do you know the Muppett Man?
I saw JIm Henson get an honorary degree from University of Maryland,
College Park when one of my brothers-in-law was getting his doctorate.
- Joe
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> goes around comes around too
>
Just like Linda Blair's head in the Exorcist?
Gary S. Callison
: Gary S. Callison <hu...@interaccess.com> wrote:
: >Dammit, _no_. That's just not fair.
: Man. I mean, not to be insensitive, but were you, like, a fan of
: *everyone*?
Basically, yes. I don't care for around 95% of country & western made in
the last twenty or thirty years, don't care for much rap, and downright
hate most of the amazing-inflatable-boobs-and-no-talent teen bubblegum
pop, but other than that, classical, jazz, folk, bluegrass, celtic,
blues, gamelan, ambient, techno, and old-time rock-&-roll - it's all good.
Last weekend I bought a new guitar, a Carlo Robelli knockoff of a vintage
electric-acoustic Dobro. Played one of the originals at Guitar Center,
they wanted $1800 for it- the Robelli plays almost as nice and sounds
almost as good, even if it is cheaper construction, and it was only $340
with a nice case. And flatpicking with your hand down by the bridge, it
sounds almost banjo-ey: good for those John Hartford tunes, apart from
being an interesting tone for jazz, and crunchy for rock chords. Can't
wait to hear how it sounds run through some ugly effects chain.
I was certain I was going to be a professional musician until my
sophomore year of college, when I dumped music as a major. Still, there's
very little music I don't love.
--
Huey
Amy Austin
> No, the actual point here is the same as it was in the "test" thread. You
> can simply be quiet and let things fade or you can protest and protest and
> keep things fresh while people constantly hand you more rope.
Oh, so now AFCA is collectively conspiring to teach me a lesson? God,
you're hilarious.
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> > Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
> > older than I am.
>
> Why would you make that assumption?
Because I met Huey's ex-wife, and she was like 10, maybe 15 years older
than I am. And most of the time, in our culture, women marry older men,
so I'm betting that Huey's 10, maybe 15 years older than I am.
L & k,
Amy (I've also seen pictures of Huey, and the new Mrs. Callison, and they
appear to be 10 or 15 years older than I am. You, I dunno, but you
haven't killfiled me yet, so obviously you aren't THAT pissed off.)
incandescent blue
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Bob Geary wrote:
>
>> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
>> > older than I am.
>>
>> Why would you make that assumption?
>
> Because I met Huey's ex-wife, and she was like 10, maybe 15 years older
> than I am. And most of the time, in our culture, women marry older men,
> so I'm betting that Huey's 10, maybe 15 years older than I am.
Dunno about Tracey, but Huey is under 35. So am I.
> Amy (I've also seen pictures of Huey, and the new Mrs. Callison,
I do not use that title. HTH.
--
Ava Callison <die-bla...@hyacinthine.net> Washington, DC
"I'm sorry," I say, "if I give you the impression that it's only my
mouth that's rough. I do my best to be rough all over."
Peter Hoeg, _Smilla's Sense of Snow_
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin wrote:
> >
> > On 2 Jul 2001, Dutch Courage wrote:
> > Hmmmmm... I could always call it "research" for my book. Have I told you
> > about my book?
>
> Well, you haven't told *me* about your book -- spill!
I'm formulating a story, in which George is the inspiration for the main
male character, of two people who meet over the internet - with a twist.
They're both pretending to be other people. At first they think it's
pretty funny, that this other person is foolish enough to believe it, but
then they grow to care about each other, etc.
I haven't decided who to model the main female character after yet....
She'll probably be a blend of all the women I've met online. Her name
will have to be Julnamirbolescony or something... :)
L & k,
Amy
Amy Austin
> Amy Austin glea...@purdue.edu
> Date: 7/2/2001 6:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time writes:
>
> > I could always call it "research" for my book.
>
> Now you're thinking! You'll have this "cake and eat it too" thing
> licked in no time, the other important lesson you need to be a
> successful grownup.
Well, you know how I feel about licking...
> > Have I told you >about my book?
>
> Does it have pirates, witches, or talking stuffed animals?
No, but probably kinky sex. Costumes may be involved...
L & k,
Amy (argh!)
tooloud10
news:Xns90D1E9749...@167.206.112.134...
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> > So I said,
> > "The diet guy?" is that really making fun of the dead? I don't think
so.
>
> Yeah. Right. I'm sure that's what you did.
>
Well, Amy *did* when she admitted that at first she thought the post was
about the diet guy.
> --
> Bob G.
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Amy Austin
> In article <Pine.SOL.4.33.01070...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
> Amy Austin wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Bob Geary wrote:
> >
> >> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
> >> > older than I am.
> >>
> >> Why would you make that assumption?
> >
> > Because I met Huey's ex-wife, and she was like 10, maybe 15 years older
> > than I am. And most of the time, in our culture, women marry older men,
> > so I'm betting that Huey's 10, maybe 15 years older than I am.
>
> Dunno about Tracey, but Huey is under 35. So am I.
Huh. That's very surprising. Maybe my math is off. You're just being
picky, though, if you're both 34 1/2.
> > Amy (I've also seen pictures of Huey, and the new Mrs. Callison,
>
> I do not use that title. HTH.
Really? How interesting. Was reading Miss Manners to brush up on the
whole issue of "Mrs.", among other things, for the thank-you notes.
Apparently, when BJ dies (God forbid), I'll remain "Mrs. Benjamin Austin"
until I remarry (which I thought was odd). If we were to divorce, THEN I
would be Mrs. Amy Austin (or Ms., I can't remember). I can use "Mrs. Amy
Austin" professionally, but not socially. It's all very convoluted.
So who makes this stuff up, anyway, and if not Mrs, what do you use?
Joe Shimkus
<Pine.SOL.4.33.01070...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> Oh, so now AFCA is collectively conspiring to teach me a lesson? God,
> you're hilarious.
>
>
If you haven't gotten the impression that there is a group of AFCAns
that *are* trying to teach you a lesson...well, you've been missing all
the clues.
tooloud10
news:Pine.SOL.4.33.01070...@herald.cc.purdue.edu...
<snip>
> If that isn't enough evidence to prove that I grew up in a different
> culture than most people over 35, I don't know what is.
Good point Amy. An example I keep coming back to is Kurt Cobain. While I
thought some of his music was pretty cool, I certainly didn't worship the
man, or even really like what he stood for, but an awful lot of people our
age thought he was *the* cultural icon of our generation and were deeply
saddened by his suicide. I'm sure if someone had written a "RIP" post about
him, there'd be plenty of jokes about it around here...and I'd probably
laugh at every one of them.
Plus, I think we all know we have plenty more trivial things we should be
arguing about.
> L & k,
> Amy
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N Jill Marsh
<glea...@purdue.edu>wrote:
>Really? How interesting. Was reading Miss Manners to brush up on the
>whole issue of "Mrs.", among other things, for the thank-you notes.
>Apparently, when BJ dies (God forbid), I'll remain "Mrs. Benjamin Austin"
>until I remarry (which I thought was odd). If we were to divorce, THEN I
>would be Mrs. Amy Austin (or Ms., I can't remember). I can use "Mrs. Amy
>Austin" professionally, but not socially. It's all very convoluted.
>
>So who makes this stuff up, anyway, and if not Mrs, what do you use?
Dunno don't care, and the same thing I have used since I started
kindergarden.
nj"what's in my name?"m
"This old motel room, is losing its view.
Could you act a little crazier?
Just like she used to."
Dana Carpender
Joe Shimkus wrote:
>
> In article
> <Pine.SOL.4.33.01070...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
> Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> > Oh, so now AFCA is collectively conspiring to teach me a lesson? God,
> > you're hilarious.
> >
> >
>
> If you haven't gotten the impression that there is a group of AFCAns
> that *are* trying to teach you a lesson...well, you've been missing all
> the clues.
>
>
I would like to state that I actively exclude myself from any group of
AFCAans trying to "teach Amy a lesson", especially about something so
picayune as making a joke about the name "Atkins".
Joe Shimkus
Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> Joe Shimkus wrote:
> >
> > In article
> > <Pine.SOL.4.33.01070...@herald.cc.purdue.edu>,
> > Amy Austin <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, so now AFCA is collectively conspiring to teach me a lesson? God,
> > > you're hilarious.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If you haven't gotten the impression that there is a group of AFCAns
> > that *are* trying to teach you a lesson...well, you've been missing all
> > the clues.
> >
> >
>
> I would like to state that I actively exclude myself from any group of
> AFCAans trying to "teach Amy a lesson", especially about something so
> picayune as making a joke about the name "Atkins".
But that's got nothing to do with the lesson that is attempting to be
taught; it's just been a peg off of which to hang the lesson.
incandescent blue
Amy Austin wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, incandescent blue wrote:
>
>> > And most of the time, in our culture, women marry older men,
>> > so I'm betting that Huey's 10, maybe 15 years older than I am.
>>
>> Dunno about Tracey, but Huey is under 35. So am I.
>
> Huh. That's very surprising. Maybe my math is off. You're just being
> picky, though, if you're both 34 1/2.
Your math is off, and I'm not just being picky. Guess again. ;)
>> > Amy (I've also seen pictures of Huey, and the new Mrs. Callison,
>>
>> I do not use that title. HTH.
>
> Really? How interesting.
> ...
> So who makes this stuff up, anyway,
Dunno, don't care. I changed my last name, not because it was expected,
but because I liked the sound of it better than the old one. If his
name were something I didn't like, I'd have kept mine. I know this
isn't the done thing per all the etiquette books, but I don't really
care. And while there's a bit of a political element (female titles
signalling marital status when male ones do not), ultimately the
choice of title for me was based on aesthetics, too. I just don't like
the way "Mrs." sounds, basically. If you, or anybody else, wants to
be Mrs. Whatever, great, whatever floats your boat; I'll do my best
to remember and use the name or title people prefer. I'd hope others
would extend the same courtesy in return, though given the reactions
this got the last time I was married I know it will be an Issue for some.
>and if not Mrs, what do you use?
Same thing I've always used. "Ms." isn't *much* more euphonious than
Mrs., but none of the modern English female titles sound that great
to my ears; it's also status-neutral.
But generally, I avoid titles to begin with, whenever possible. I'm
just not the formal sort.
A. "and 'Mistress', 'Madame', or 'SWMBO' all have their charms..."
Justin Hiltscher
time, as we get older, and we think we know what we need to, we push back,
we fight, rather than accepting new lessons. When the people around you
seem to conspire, sometimes it's not that they are actually conspiring,
it's that your own actions have grown so polarizing that their choice of
responses become limited to responding the way you need them to.
The lesson Bob pointed out was about you, and rather hard for you to take,
so you fought it. But you're going to have to learn it, because you're
going to keep provoking similar responses until you do. You've seen cases
yourself, both on the 'Net, and very likely, in real life as well, of
people who just seem 'stuck'. This is why. They fought what they needed
to learn. No, you're face won't stick if you hold it like that, but yes,
your life will whenever you fight it. Life is the ultimate teacher, and
it's got all the time in the world on it's side.
Please, if you can, don't make yourself unhappy this way. Learn to
let things go. This, too, shall pass.
Justin Hiltscher
Big Iron5
>>:> I think you misplet "our".
>>:>
>>:> HTH,
>>
>>: Not really, the people who are all po'd are at least 10, maybe 15 years
>>: older than I am. I would say that in this rapidly changing culture of
>>: *ours* that that makes them from a totally different subset of the culture
>>: than I am.
>>
>>The point is that Atkins is part of the musical culture of our country
>>whether you realize it or not.
>>
>
>John Hartford died on June fourth.
Shit, how did I miss that one? Sure, he wasn't anywhere near the league of
Chet and John Lee, but he was a talented, entertaining, and ingratiating
fellow.
Big Iron5
>>Dammit, _no_. That's just not fair.
>
>Man. I mean, not to be insensitive, but were you, like, a fan of *everyone*?
>
>"Little-known musician Eddington Burke died today. Burke, 73, was best known
>for having played the cowbell on Blue Oyster Cult's 'Don't Fear The
>Reaper'."
>"No, dammit, noo! The sunshine is a little dimmer, the flowers a little less
>sweet! Life has lost all of it's meaning!"
>
>:::slinks back away from this thread:::
As well you should.
John Hartford was no Bill Monroe or Chet Atkins, but he was a significant
musical figure, and just a fun guy to see perform. There's no shame in not
having heard of him -- but you really ought not speak about people you don't
know in the ignorantly dismissive way you just did. That's cheesy, Charlie --
I'm sure it's only a momentary lapse of judgement, but just because you've
never heard of someone doesn't mean he or she wasn't talented and appreciated
and significant.
Show some fuckin' respect, ya punk kid!
Big Iron5
> goes around comes around too
"Remember way back when
You had a yen
To mess over your old friend
You know, you dragged me to your heart
With your smile and grin
You’ll never get a chance like that
To pull that old stuff again"
UFO_Charlie
>John Hartford was no Bill Monroe or Chet Atkins
Yeah, well, how could he be expected to live up to the colossus of talent
that *is* Bill Monroe?
>There's no shame in not
>having heard of him -- but you really ought not speak about people you
don't
>know in the ignorantly dismissive way you just did.
Actually, I was commenting on the fact that Gary seems to know a whole host
of obscure musicians on a level intimate enough that their death renders
within him what the ordinary observer might call a disproportionate amount
of grief. I made no comment on the level of talent that Bill, John, Jerry,
or :::snork::: Chet had, although I suspect that if they had anything to do
with Country music, I would not have thought highly of it.
>That's cheesy, Charlie --
>I'm sure it's only a momentary lapse of judgement, but just because you've
>never heard of someone doesn't mean he or she wasn't talented and
appreciated
>and significant.
Well, it does relative to me.
>Show some fuckin' respect, ya punk kid!
As soon as you stop insisting that, because you care, everyone else has to,
also. None of the 900 artists that have died in the past few days had my
particular respect. I mean, fine if these artists meant a lot to you, but
the thrashing Amy got indicates that this respect isn't a two way
street --some people refused to respect her right NOT to give a damn-- and I
think it ought to be.