Bread bag closer things
Opus the Penguin
for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
if they're in common use.
1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
loosening it?
2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
I knew what to call the things.
--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
Boron Elgar
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>if they're in common use.
>
>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
They are quite well know as "twist ties."
>
>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>loosening it?
Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey, like the rest of life.
>
>
>2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
Plastic bread bag clip.
>
>Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
>fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
>I knew what to call the things.
Well, they aren't aglets.
Bob Ward
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>if they're in common use.
>
>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>
Twist ties
>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>loosening it?
>
>
>2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>
Google on "bread clip"
>Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
>fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
>I knew what to call the things.
http://www.struat.com/justin/breadclip.html
The bread-clip was invented by a man who resided in Selah, Washington
by the name of Floyd Paxton. I bet you didn't know that, unless you
happen to have known that. Quite frankly he has no right to be famous
and I don't want to be a pawn in his big publicity machine. After all,
what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread clip?
What legacy does the bread-clip bring to civilization? I mean...
really what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread
clip? Does it really mean a damned thing, really?
When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
in the history of mankind. Why? Well... let's see: if it were not for
the invention of the bread-clip, mankind would have to be using wiry
string to tie their bread bags togehter. And, here's the key part: So
the hell what? What would be wrong with using wiry string to tie bread
bags together? Can someone tell me that, please? Is using a clip
instead of using this wiry string really and truly progress? What the
heck is the difference between using bread-clips and using string to
tie together bags of bread? Just tell me the difference, please.
Look: go ahead and time yourself. Get some bread with wiry string and
get some bread with a bread-clip. Time yourself as you untie both.
Then, calculate out the difference. How much time do you save with the
bread-clip, I mean really? You save, if you are a really slow wiry
string-tier, a total of about fifteen seconds by substituting the
bread-clip for the wiry string.
Were you going to use those extra 15 seconds in any way
productively??? What were you going to do: spend an extra 15 seconds
of much-needed quality time with your kid??
I highly doubt it.
So, in summary, it really would not be too big a determent to society
if the inventor of the bread-clip were to have not made his so-called
big contribution to our society. So quit celebrating his birthday!
And... don't you dare vote him into elected office, or we're all
skewered.
I mean, after all, look at his political affiliation: the inventor of
the plastic thing was a guy by the name of Floyd Paxton- His politics
could be summized by the fact that he was a leader of the John Birch
Society for a time. EVERY TIME you buy a bread-clip- the patent owned
by the Paxton family's Kwik Lox Corporation, a portion of the profits
goes to the John Birch Society.
Then again, if a consumer thinks that way, their head will spin.)
And will someone out there please invent something useful, like the
sporkni I'm about to get a patent on?
The most important inventions in the history of mankind, in case you
are curious, is the trio inventions of controlled fire, the computer,
and the paper clip.
Because, as should be obvious, before the advent of controlled fire,
all fire was out of control.
And, I want to rethink calling the bread-clip the most useless
invention in the history of mankind. The most useless invention in the
history of mankind is, in actuality, the television set. But don't
kill your t.v. because that is a stupid-assed bumper sticker slogan.
And pretension stinks.
Mac
Kwik-Loks. No "x". (Don't blame me, that's is what the major
manufacturer call 'em, although "bread clip" works as a generic). As
for useless, wire ties (also called "twist ties") work about as well
for consumers, but wire ties and rubber bands are extremely hard to
work into a high-speed automated packaging run.
Mac
PS: it's long out of patent, and Paxton never got a patent for the
basic clip. (Nor should he have, there's plenty of prior art. What
he did patent was automated closure machinery.
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <Xns9CBCC550D6111op...@127.0.0.1>):
> What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
I call both kinds "trash", and discard them when I initially open a package
of bread. After removing the first two slices, there is enough slack to fold
over and let the weight of the loaf keep it closed.
-- Jerry Randal Bauer
Les Albert
>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>if they're in common use.
>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
We call them "wireys". Sometimes we call them "bread bag things". The
family of a friend calls them "greenies" because the things are often
green.
>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>loosening it?
I don't understand your question. Why do you twist them? We use them
to pierce the bread bag at the open end with several holes and sort of
stitch the bag closed.
>2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
It's called a breadlok clipband.
>Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
>fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
>I knew what to call the things.
Les
QueBarbara
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>if they're in common use.
>
>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>
Twisties.
>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>loosen?
>
Right to tight, left to loose.
--
QueBarbara
Greg Goss
>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>if they're in common use.
>
>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
Twist ties. I'm more familiar with them from when they used to be
included in bags of garbage bags. I have a spool of twist tie in a
drawer with an attached cutter that cuts twist tie to any desired
length.
I never see twist ties on bread anymore. It's all the square tab or
welded ties that I don't have a name for nor ever figured out how to
open.
>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>loosening it?
I never seem to encounter them anymore except when I applied them.
And I generally use zip ties instead these days -- zip ties are too
hard to remove, so I always cut 'em.
>2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
No idea. I'm not even comfortable calling it a "clip".
>Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
>fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
>I knew what to call the things.
--
apart from one noisy guy up in Canada, no-one wants
a three-cylinder tissue box on bicycle tires.
Greg Goss
>http://www.struat.com/justin/breadclip.html
>
>The bread-clip was invented by a man who resided in Selah, Washington
>by the name of Floyd Paxton. I bet you didn't know that, unless you
>happen to have known that. Quite frankly he has no right to be famous
>and I don't want to be a pawn in his big publicity machine. After all,
>what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread clip?
>What legacy does the bread-clip bring to civilization? I mean...
>really what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread
>clip? Does it really mean a damned thing, really?
>When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
>in the history of mankind. Why? Well... let's see: if it were not for
>the invention of the bread-clip, mankind would have to be using wiry
>string to tie their bread bags togehter. And, here's the key part: So
>the hell what? What would be wrong with using wiry string to tie bread
>bags together? Can someone tell me that, please? Is using a clip
>instead of using this wiry string really and truly progress? What the
>heck is the difference between using bread-clips and using string to
>tie together bags of bread? Just tell me the difference, please.
I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite. Either
way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
ties. Made me appreciate the simple clip much more. I haven't seen
twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other than holding wires
together in new consumer electronics.
Hactar
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
> twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
> ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
> But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
> "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
TIE fighters?
I say "twist ties" for those things, but do others say "twisties"?
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten,
Whichever way feels right.
> which way to loosen?
The way it's not twisted when I start.
> Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> loosening it?
I guess that happens every now and then. I try to examine it before I
twist, or at the very least turn it a little bit and look for a slight
loosening. Some are born into left-handedness, some choose it, and some of
us have it thrust upon us. So my sense of "which way is correct" is
screwy.
> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
I'd call it a "plastic clip", but that's not very specific. That could
refer to a Chip Clip, or a plastic clothesline pin.
> Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
> fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
> I knew what to call the things.
Good luck with that.
There's also that ziptie-looking thing, but that may only be for garbage
bags.
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huey.c...@gmail.com
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you twist
> around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie ties" and
> I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too. But if I
> were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them "twist
> ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
Either is fine.
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> loosening it?
I would suggest that they should be tightened and loosened the same as
standard-thread screws, i.e: righty-tighty lefty-loosey. Left-handed
people may or may not agree.
> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
the little plastic chip clip that's like a binder clip, or the little
plastic thing that's like a square with a hole near the top and a slit
in it like this?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3360455476_bded024004.jpg
> Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
> fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
> I knew what to call the things.
The magic google phrase appears to be 'bread clip'.
Somebody found a leet bread clip:
http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/leet-bread-clip.jpg
--
Huey
Mac
> Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com> wrote:
> >http://www.struat.com/justin/breadclip.html
>
> >The bread-clip was invented by a man who resided in Selah, Washington
> >by the name of Floyd Paxton. I bet you didn't know that, unless you
> >happen to have known that. Quite frankly he has no right to be famous
> >and I don't want to be a pawn in his big publicity machine. After all,
> >what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread clip?
> >What legacy does the bread-clip bring to civilization? I mean...
> >really what the hell is the significance of the invention of the bread
> >clip? Does it really mean a damned thing, really?
> >When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
> >in the history of mankind. Why? Well... let's see: if it were not for
> >the invention of the bread-clip, mankind would have to be using wiry
> >string to tie their bread bags togehter. And, here's the key part: So
> >the hell what? What would be wrong with using wiry string to tie bread
> >bags together? Can someone tell me that, please? Is using a clip
> >instead of using this wiry string really and truly progress? What the
> >heck is the difference between using bread-clips and using string to
> >tie together bags of bread? Just tell me the difference, please.
>
> I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite.
From the site.
> Either
> way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
> clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
> opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
> living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
> ties.
You gotta open then from the inside out, by grasping the tape on
either side with the thumbs, while holding the back with the index
fingers, and rotating the thumbs away from each other, much like
snapping a twig.
> Made me appreciate the simple clip much more. I haven't seen
> twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other than holding wires
> together in new consumer electronics.
Smaller operations still use them, if you are closing by hand, there
isn't a lot of difference. Here, the larger local bakery uses wire
ties.
(Pop 8,000, supported area maybe double that, 2 bakers, and 2
supermarkets, both used to bake on site. One still does. Life am
good sometimes.)
Veronique
wrote:
> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
Guitar pick.
V., bread, what is this "bread"?
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Bill Turlock
I killed ny TV. No pretending involved.
Regards
Bill
Mark Brader
> What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
"Twist tie".
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> loosen?
I'm right-handed, so I turn them clockwise to tighten, like a screw.
> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
I've always called it a "bag closer". However, Wikipedia's article on
them is titled "bread clip" and lists the alternate names "bread tag",
"bread tab", "bread tie", and "bread-bag clip". Considering their other
use on milk bags as well, I see no reason to mention bread specifically.
--
Mark Brader The World Wide Web:
Toronto bringing you style over substance since 1993.
m...@vex.net -- Steve Summit
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Mark Brader
> I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite. Either
> way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
> clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
> opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
> living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
> ties.
Odd; I don't remember when's the last time I saw one. Greg and I must
have shopped at different supermarkets.
> I haven't seen twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other
> than holding wires together in new consumer electronics.
The other place I used to see them regularly was with garbage bags,
but the ones I get these days don't come with them. Fortunately,
I still have plenty left from when they did.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "No flames were used in the creation of
m...@vex.net | this message." -- Ray Depew
hpjeannie
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
> twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
> ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
> But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
> "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> loosening it?
I twist twist ties the "wrong" way according to everyone else. Drove
my dad crazy when I lived at home. Boron is right - everything in life
should be righty-tighty, lefty-loosy, but for some reason I close the
bag by twisting counterclockwise, or to the left. Ay de mi!
Jeannie
hpjeannie
> twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other than holding wires
> together in new consumer electronics.
They're supplied in the produce departments of grocery stores here,
next to the plastic bags you use to put loose produce in.
Which leads to a rant. People used to be fairly neat about the binned
produce...if you wanted to sort through the string beans for the best
ones, you picked carefully through and left the pile pretty much like
you found it, minus the ones you took. Nowadays, people paw through
the bins, grab what they want and leave beans (or corn husks, or
broccoli bits) dropped messily on the floor around the bins for others
to step and/or slide on. Yuck!
Now I observe that certain kinds of markets have started to bag *all*
the produce, especially loose things that would otherwise be pawed
(pawn?) through and strewn. Probably a good idea, but kind of a drag
in that you can't see the produce very well to assess its quality.
Jeannie
M. Shirley Chong
> When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
> in the history of mankind. Why? Well... let's see: if it were not for
> the invention of the bread-clip, mankind would have to be using wiry
> string to tie their bread bags togehter. And, here's the key part: So
> the hell what? What would be wrong with using wiry string to tie bread
> bags together?
Nothing, except that the plastic clips can be put on via machine,
instead having to be done by hand.
> Look: go ahead and time yourself. Get some bread with wiry string and
> get some bread with a bread-clip. Time yourself as you untie both.
> Then, calculate out the difference. How much time do you save with the
> bread-clip, I mean really? You save, if you are a really slow wiry
> string-tier, a total of about fifteen seconds by substituting the
> bread-clip for the wiry string.
Insignificant for a single loaf of bread in the consumer's hands.
Pretty darn significant for 15K loaves getting ready to leave the
bakery.
> The most important inventions in the history of mankind, in case you
> are curious, is the trio inventions of controlled fire, the computer,
> and the paper clip.
Nah, you're forgetting the invention of string. Or, if that is too
general, the invention of spinning, which allowed the creation of
string of great length out of a great many more materials than
leather and vines.
I vote to kick the paper clip off the island.
Of course, there was also the invention of fired pottery, which
allowed waterproof verminproof rigid containers of a wide variety of
sizes and shapes.
I vote the computer off the island as well.
> Because, as should be obvious, before the advent of controlled fire,
> all fire was out of control.
And before the use of fire to cook food, our proto-human ancestors
spent a minimum of 6-8 hours a day just on chewing their food.
Shirley (I knew you were joking but there were some interesting points)
Charles Wm. Dimmick
But the twist ties are handy for any number of things, such as fastening
the raspberry and blackberry canes to the support wires. Ditto for grape
vines. See also:
Dover Beach
news:7e8ed144-c71b-419c...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 7, 5:25�pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>
> Guitar pick.
>
>
>
> V., bread, what is this "bread"?
Don't you eat bread?
--
Dover
Boron Elgar
I never throw out in intact twist tie. They are, indeed, important
garden items.
Boron
Boron Elgar
<hpje...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 7, 9:05�pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen
>> twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other than holding wires
>> together in new consumer electronics.
>
>They're supplied in the produce departments of grocery stores here,
>next to the plastic bags you use to put loose produce in.
And next to the bins that have bagels and rolls.
>
>Which leads to a rant. People used to be fairly neat about the binned
>produce...if you wanted to sort through the string beans for the best
>ones, you picked carefully through and left the pile pretty much like
>you found it, minus the ones you took. Nowadays, people paw through
>the bins, grab what they want and leave beans (or corn husks, or
>broccoli bits) dropped messily on the floor around the bins for others
>to step and/or slide on. Yuck!
This past season the major supermarkets but out a barrel next to the
bin so folks could shuck their corn right in there.
>
>Now I observe that certain kinds of markets have started to bag *all*
>the produce, especially loose things that would otherwise be pawed
>(pawn?) through and strewn. Probably a good idea, but kind of a drag
>in that you can't see the produce very well to assess its quality.
Trader Joe's does that in this area. It may be beneficial to them, but
it isn't to me.
Boron
Boron Elgar
<hpje...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 7, 5:25�pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
>> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>> loosening it?
>
>I twist twist ties the "wrong" way according to everyone else. Drove
>my dad crazy when I lived at home. Boron is right - everything in life
>should be righty-tighty, lefty-loosy, but for some reason I close the
>bag by twisting counterclockwise, or to the left. Ay de mi!
>
>Jeannie
You are not the only one who does this. You know those near
-impenetrable plastic clam shells that things come packed in? Well,
someone over in China also though it would be a cute trick to twist
tie all sorts of parts to the cardboard inside, too, and there is at
least one production line over there that believes in righty-loosey,
lefty-tighty.
Boron
landotter
> "Opus the Penguin":
>
> > What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> > for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> > if they're in common use.
>
> > 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper ...
>
> "Twist tie".
>
> > Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> > loosen?
>
> I'm right-handed, so I turn them clockwise to tighten, like a screw.
>
> > 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>
> I've always called it a "bag closer". However, Wikipedia's article on
> them is titled "bread clip" and lists the alternate names "bread tag",
> "bread tab", "bread tie", and "bread-bag clip". Considering their other
> use on milk bags as well, I see no reason to mention bread specifically.
Look--even though Madam might use them on the milk bags--they're still
"clothes" pins to me.
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <qukdf5p312916sv6h...@4ax.com>):
One use they have at Chez Agricola is "cat toy". However, it is a function
shared with almost any object in the 0.1-to-10 cc size range. A current
favorite is cotton swabs.
--
Jerry "felis ludens" Bauer
Boron Elgar
Oh, Jerry, please tell me you're not using the cats as cough drops.
Anecdotal, yes, but no clinical evidence exists.
DT
says...
>Bob Ward wrote:
>
>> When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
>> in the history of mankind. Why? Well... let's see: if it were not for
>> the invention of the bread-clip, mankind would have to be using wiry
>> string to tie their bread bags togehter. And, here's the key part: So
>> the hell what? What would be wrong with using wiry string to tie bread
>> bags together?
>
>Nothing, except that the plastic clips can be put on via machine,
>instead having to be done by hand.
>
>> Look: go ahead and time yourself. Get some bread with wiry string and
>> get some bread with a bread-clip. Time yourself as you untie both.
>> Then, calculate out the difference. How much time do you save with the
>> bread-clip, I mean really? You save, if you are a really slow wiry
>> string-tier, a total of about fifteen seconds by substituting the
>> bread-clip for the wiry string.
>
>Insignificant for a single loaf of bread in the consumer's hands.
>Pretty darn significant for 15K loaves getting ready to leave the
>bakery.
Twist tie machines are readily available and inexpensive. They can be
incorporated into assembly lines with ease. Takes a second. We had one
for tying wire bundles like the last one on this page:
http://www.tach-it.com/Twist-Tie-Machines
--
Dennis
Charles Wm. Dimmick
http://www.galeriafoto.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/108917/cat/509
I believe that this is a takeoff on _Homo_ _ludens_
Charles "gossing" D.
Les Albert
I use twist-ties as closures for plastic garbage bags.
Les
Bill Kinkaid
>Greg Goss:
>> I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite. Either
>> way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
>> clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
>> opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
>> living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
>> ties.
>
>Odd; I don't remember when's the last time I saw one. Greg and I must
>have shopped at different supermarkets.
>
>> I haven't seen twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other
>> than holding wires together in new consumer electronics.
>
>The other place I used to see them regularly was with garbage bags,
>but the ones I get these days don't come with them. Fortunately,
>I still have plenty left from when they did.
Every single produce and bulk food store/department here has them.
I never got the hang of using them for garbage bags. Just square up
the top of the bag, pull up the corners and tie them together. Some
bags come made that way with one side flared out so you can tie them
up. I never bothered doing it any other way.
--
Bill in Vancouver
Hactar
Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Greg Goss:
> > I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite. Either
> > way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
> > clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
> > opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
> > living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
> > ties.
>
> Odd; I don't remember when's the last time I saw one. Greg and I must
> have shopped at different supermarkets.
>
> > I haven't seen twist ties in the wild for a very long time, other
> > than holding wires together in new consumer electronics.
That's where I see them most, but then again very few bread bags pass
through my hands.
Cat #1 goes apeshit for them.
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
This message was created using recycled electrons.
Veronique
> Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote innews:7e8ed144-c71b-419c...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Nov 7, 5:25 pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>
> > Guitar pick.
>
> > V., bread, what is this "bread"?
>
> Don't you eat bread?
Mmmm, bread.
V., doesn't buy much bread, though. And baguettes come in paper sacks.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Mac
> In article <39310n.all.1...@news.alt.net>, eit...@netins.net.spam.not
All true, but tag machines are equally available, cheaper overall for
large volume runs, equally easy to put in an assembly line -easier
some would say, and provide a useful-size printable area.
> http://www.tach-it.com/Twist-Tie-Machines
You think you could get 3600 an hour outta those?
N Jill Marsh
>Greg Goss:
>> I'm not sure if that rant is Bob's or a quote from his cite. Either
>> way, you must consider the third choice. Instead of twist tie versus
>> clip, think of the bread bags tape-tied together. These cannot be
>> opened without ruining the bag and then the bread goes stale. When
>> living in Toronto, half the brands seemed to use these impossible tape
>> ties.
>
>Odd; I don't remember when's the last time I saw one. Greg and I must
>have shopped at different supermarkets.
I have two baked products in the kitchen that use the tape closure.
It's a terrible design, but I suspect it's cheaper and easier to
automate then even bread clips.
nj"damn you al's bakery"m
--
Welcome, stranger, to the humble neighbourhoods.
Paul L. Madarasz
Apud Agricola?
--
Sorry I can't stop and talk now,
I'm in kind of a hurry anyhow,
but I'll send you a tape from California.
QueBarbara
wrote:
I use them to tidy up extra cords on electronic gadgets.
--
QueBarbara
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <vg8ef5leaj4gkp20c...@4ax.com>):
"People called Romanes they go the house."
--
Jerry "Solidarity" Bauer
Hactar
I use them to hold lights on my wheels. 20 ties/lights per strand * 2
strands/wheel * 2 wheels = 80 ties, plus some gaffer tape for the
batteries.
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
Q: What kind of modem did Jimi Hendrix use?
A: A purple Hayes.
Peter Ward
All the sliced bread I buy has that type of closure. It's simple to
remove the tape and do the fold-over trick with the open end of the bag,
as mentioned elsewhere. I stick the tape to the side of the bag, it's
got the date of obsolescence on it (although I usually check for that by
staleness). They're really not a problem, less problem than twist ties
certainly, and I've never seen those plastic clips before (but don't
like the look of them).
The problem is having to resort to that type of bread in the first
place.
--
Peter, from outside the asylum
I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
The only thing MPs never tax is their own brains.
Dover Beach
You're a rolling Christmas tree!
--
Dover
Bob Ward
wrote:
>
>I never got the hang of using them for garbage bags. Just square up
>the top of the bag, pull up the corners and tie them together. Some
>bags come made that way with one side flared out so you can tie them
>up. I never bothered doing it any other way.
I usually toss the bread clips when I open a loaf of bread - then
close it by spinning the bag to twist the neck closed, and turn the
top inside out and pull it down over the bread like rolling up a pair
of socks. It's pretty much air tight, and much simpler than trying to
jam the clip onto the twisted bag.
Opus the Penguin
>>fastening the raspberry and blackberry canes to the support wires.
>>Ditto for grape vines. See also:
>>http://www.ehow.com/how_2107764_recycle-twist-ties.html
>
>
>
> I use twist-ties as closures for plastic garbage bags.
>
>
Don't the bags come with their own twist-ties?
--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
Les Albert
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Les Albert (lalb...@aol.com) wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:39:52 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
>>>But the twist ties are handy for any number of things, such as
>>>fastening the raspberry and blackberry canes to the support wires.
>>>Ditto for grape vines. See also:
>>>http://www.ehow.com/how_2107764_recycle-twist-ties.html
>> I use twist-ties as closures for plastic garbage bags.
>Don't the bags come with their own twist-ties?
We buy the house brand of Costco (Kirkland), and the Costco we go to
stocks only the drawstring garbage bags. But the drawstring doesn't
close the bag as tight as I like to make it with a twist-tie.
Les
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
wrote:
> When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
> in the history of mankind.
Bread bag clips are very useful for knitters like me. They can be
used as small yarn bobbins for fair isle or intarsia knitting or for
winding long ends (left to use for seaming).
I happen to like them on bread bags, too. They're much easier to use
than the twist ties and they don't spark in the microwave.
Mary "Twist ties do."
--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
We didn't just do weird stuff at Dryden, we wrote reports about it.
reunite....@gmail.com or mil...@qnet.com
Visit my blog at http://thedigitalknitter.blogspot.com/
Les Albert
Shafer)" <reunite....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Bread bag clips are very useful for knitters like me. They can be
>used as small yarn bobbins for fair isle or intarsia knitting or for
>winding long ends (left to use for seaming).
>I happen to like them on bread bags, too. They're much easier to use
>than the twist ties and they don't spark in the microwave.
>Mary "Twist ties do."
When do you use bread bag clips in the microwave?
Les
Hactar
Last year:
http://royalty.mine.nu:81/decorations.jpg
--
I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq
would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world
against us and make ... a latter-day Arab hero assigning young soldiers
to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator[.] -- GHWB
Dover Beach
> In article <Xns9CBDA5831265Fmo...@130.133.1.4>,
> Dover Beach <moon.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You're a rolling Christmas tree!
>
> Last year:
>
> http://royalty.mine.nu:81/decorations.jpg
>
With your cat in the foreground that's really a cute shot.
--
Dover
N Jill Marsh
>N Jill Marsh says...
>>
>> I have two baked products in the kitchen that use the tape closure.
>> It's a terrible design, but I suspect it's cheaper and easier to
>> automate then even bread clips.
>
>All the sliced bread I buy has that type of closure. It's simple to
>remove the tape and do the fold-over trick with the open end of the bag,
I do the fold over thing, but this tape closure isn't simple to
remove, I pretty much have to cut the tape or the bag to get into the
damn bag. The tape is pretty thing, and is folded over onto itself,
and will not unstick. Your version of this sounds perfectly
civilised.
nj"doesn't eat much of that sort of bread, thankfully"m
jeff_wisnia
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:39:52 -0500, "Charles Wm. Dimmick"
> <cdim...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Hieronymus Agricola wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:25:52 -0700, Opus the Penguin wrote
>>>(in article <Xns9CBCC550D6111op...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>
>>>
>>>>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>>>>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>>>>if they're in common use.
>>>
>>>I call both kinds "trash", and discard them when I initially open a package
>>>of bread. After removing the first two slices, there is enough slack to fold
>>>over and let the weight of the loaf keep it closed.
>>
>>But the twist ties are handy for any number of things, such as fastening
>>the raspberry and blackberry canes to the support wires. Ditto for grape
>>vines. See also:
>>
>>http://www.ehow.com/how_2107764_recycle-twist-ties.html
>
>
>
> garden items.
>
>
While I applaud your efforts at recycling things, you can buy spools of
green twist tie material at most garden shops. I think the one I've had
in the garage for 20+ years had 250 feet on it when new and itll
probably outlive me.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
jeff_wisnia
> On Nov 7, 5:25 pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>>for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>>if they're in common use.
>>
>>1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>>twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>>ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>>But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>>"twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>>
>>Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>>loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>>expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>>loosening it?
>
>
> I twist twist ties the "wrong" way according to everyone else. Drove
> my dad crazy when I lived at home. Boron is right - everything in life
> should be righty-tighty, lefty-loosy, but for some reason I close the
> bag by twisting counterclockwise, or to the left. Ay de mi!
>
> Jeannie
Are you by any chance sisister?
jeff_wisnia
> What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
> twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
> ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
> But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
> "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> loosening it?
>
>
> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>
> Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
> fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
> I knew what to call the things.
>
This thread has gotten pretty long, and unless I missed it, nobody has
mentioned that the bread clip (or whatever you choose to call them) has
one advantage over the twist-tie, they can have stuff like "sell by
dates" printed on them.
I just checked the little cup in a kitchen drawer into which I toss
extra twist-ties and bread clips and about half or the bread clips there
have stuff printed one them.
BTW, I usually sprinkle in about 1/4 teaspoon of water when I'm sealing
breadstuff in plastic bags. It seems to help keep the bread from drying out.
QueBarbara
wrote:
Cute? It's had me scratching my head and given me flashbacks for the
last twenty minutes!
--
QueBarbara
Bill Turlock
Plus, the sharp thingies on the clip will rip the bag and render
its integrity.
Bill Turlock
>
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:52:14 -0800, Bob Ward <bob...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When you think about it, the bread-clip is the most useless invention
> > in the history of mankind.
>
> Bread bag clips are very useful for knitters like me. They can be
> used as small yarn bobbins for fair isle or intarsia knitting or for
> winding long ends (left to use for seaming).
>
> I happen to like them on bread bags, too. They're much easier to use
> than the twist ties and they don't spark in the microwave.
>
> Mary "Twist ties do."
so does celery
Bill Turlock
you have a twin?
Bill Turlock
>
> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>
> > What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> > for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> > if they're in common use.
> >
> > 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
> > twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
> > ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
> > But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
> > "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
> >
> > Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> > loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> > expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> > loosening it?
> >
> >
> > 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
> >
> > Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
> > fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
> > I knew what to call the things.
> >
>
> This thread has gotten pretty long, and unless I missed it, nobody has
> mentioned that the bread clip (or whatever you choose to call them) has
> one advantage over the twist-tie, they can have stuff like "sell by
> dates" printed on them.
also useful as mini-scrapers for caked-on stuff
Dana Carpender
> jeff_wisnia wrote:
>> Opus the Penguin wrote:
>>
>>> What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
>>> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
>>> if they're in common use.
>>>
>>> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
>>> twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
>>> ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
>>> But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
>>> "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>>>
>>> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
>>> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
>>> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
>>> loosening it?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. The little plastic clip. What's it called?
>>>
>>> Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
>>> fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
>>> I knew what to call the things.
>>>
>> This thread has gotten pretty long, and unless I missed it, nobody has
>> mentioned that the bread clip (or whatever you choose to call them) has
>> one advantage over the twist-tie, they can have stuff like "sell by
>> dates" printed on them.
>
>
>
> also useful as mini-scrapers for caked-on stuff
Amy Dacyczyn of the Tightwad Gazette used them, combined with a hot glue
gun, to repair various stuff.
Dana
hpjeannie
I have two brobothers, so I guess I am.
(Actually, no, I'm right-handed, and it is with that dominant right
hand that I twist the ties counterclockwise. :)
Jeannie
Hactar
Identical. Same configuration. We call him "Canon Gimp".
--
"Never go off on tangents, which are lines that intersect a curve at
only one point and were discovered by Euclid, who lived in the [1st C
BC], which was an era dominated by the Goths, who lived in what we now
know as Poland." - from the Nov. 1998 issue of Infosystems Executive.
Peter Ward
>
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:21:45 -0000, Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >N Jill Marsh says...
> >>
> >> I have two baked products in the kitchen that use the tape closure.
> >> It's a terrible design, but I suspect it's cheaper and easier to
> >> automate then even bread clips.
> >
> >All the sliced bread I buy has that type of closure. It's simple to
> >remove the tape and do the fold-over trick with the open end of the bag,
>
> I do the fold over thing, but this tape closure isn't simple to
> remove, I pretty much have to cut the tape or the bag to get into the
> damn bag. The tape is pretty thing, and is folded over onto itself,
> and will not unstick. Your version of this sounds perfectly
> civilised.
For the bread like that which I buy, there's always a short length of
non-sticky at each end of the tape, which gives somewhere to start
pulling. However, the butcher uses one of those taping machines which
leaves no free end. I just apply a sharp knife to the tape, right next
to the bag, just where the loop of tape starts, to nick it. It will
then tear easily, and most of the gathered part of the bag tumbles out.
It's then an easy job to pull the rest of the tape off.
> nj"doesn't eat much of that sort of bread, thankfully"m
Natch!
--
Peter, from outside the asylum
I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
Even if you're right someone here will undoubtedly set you straight.
- Jen
Boron Elgar
<jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote:
>Boron Elgar wrote:
>> I never throw out in intact twist tie. They are, indeed, important
>> garden items.
>>
>> Boron
>>
>
>While I applaud your efforts at recycling things, you can buy spools of
>green twist tie material at most garden shops. I think the one I've had
>in the garage for 20+ years had 250 feet on it when new and itll
>probably outlive me.
>
>Jeff
I have a spool of it that I use for gardening. Some plants are too
heavy for smaller ties, but I save them purely to recycle. My
favorites are the large ties that attach widgets to the cardboard
packing on they are sold.
Boron
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:12:59 -0800, "Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary
Bags with ciabatta rolls from Costco, mostly. I can't eat the whole
bag before it goes stale, so I toss them into the freezer to nuke as
needed.
Mary "Twist ties also melt the bag when nuked."
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <lpnhf55vehgk9j53k...@4ax.com>):
> I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
Does that work?
--
Jerry "One fewer appliance" Bauer
Mark Brader
> > When do you use bread bag clips in the microwave?
> Bags with ciabatta rolls from Costco, mostly. I can't eat the whole
> bag before it goes stale, so I toss them into the freezer to nuke as
> needed.
What type of aircraft do you drop the nuke from?
--
Mark Brader | "You read war books -- people shooting each other,
Toronto | people bombing each other, people torturing each
m...@vex.net | other. I like to look at people doing, uh, naughty
| things to each other!" -- Ria, "Butterflies"
bill van
Hieronymus Agricola <use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:37:26 -0800, Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer) wrote
> (in article <lpnhf55vehgk9j53k...@4ax.com>):
>
> > I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
>
> Does that work?
If you mean, do the buns come out reasonably fresh-tasting after they
have been frozen and then microwaved, the answer is generally yes. But
you have to freeze them while they really are fresh, and you have to
make sure the bag is airtight, or they'll get freezer burn.
bill, not afraid to be whooshed
Veronique
> In article <0001HW.C71E1CAD000AE42BB0102...@nntp.earthlink.net>,
> Hieronymus Agricola <use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:37:26 -0800, Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer) wrote
>
> > > I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
>
> > Does that work?
>
> If you mean, do the buns come out reasonably fresh-tasting after they
> have been frozen and then microwaved, the answer is generally yes. But
> you have to freeze them while they really are fresh, and you have to
> make sure the bag is airtight, or they'll get freezer burn.
>
> bill, not afraid to be whooshed
I use my freezer to freeze, and when I had a microwave, I used that to
heat. Sounds like Mary Shafer has found an ingenious kitchen appliance
that does both.
V., unwhooshing the whooshed since, well, today at least.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Opus the Penguin
> Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer) wrote:
>
>> I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
>
> Does that work?
>
It took me a while to figure this out. I hadn't noticed that I was no
longer in the thread asking how we respond to people who wish us a
blessed day.
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
<use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:37:26 -0800, Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer) wrote
> (in article <lpnhf55vehgk9j53k...@4ax.com>):
>
> > I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
>
> Does that work?
Literalists strike again. I toss bags of rolls into the freezer to
preserve them until I need them and then I defrost them in the
microwave oven.
Mary "Happy now?"
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
> Les Albert:
> > > When do you use bread bag clips in the microwave?
>
> Mary Shafer:
> > Bags with ciabatta rolls from Costco, mostly. I can't eat the whole
> > bag before it goes stale, so I toss them into the freezer to nuke as
> > needed.
>
> What type of aircraft do you drop the nuke from?
Unfortunately (or, perhaps, fortunately, depending on how much you
trust research engineers like me) NASA wasn't allowed "special
weapons" or any other weapons. Every year I'd go to the Society of
Experimental Test Pilots Symposium and be totally consumed with envy
while watching test footage of dropping bombs, launching missiles, and
generally wreaking havoc by various military forces. These weren't
being fired in anger and the targets were, for example, scruffy desert
flora or long-retired fighters converted to target drones.
Mary "Actually using them against real people is another issue
entirely."
Greg Goss
>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:16:20 -0800, Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I never got the hang of using them for garbage bags. Just square up
>>the top of the bag, pull up the corners and tie them together. Some
>>bags come made that way with one side flared out so you can tie them
>>up. I never bothered doing it any other way.
>
>I usually toss the bread clips when I open a loaf of bread - then
>close it by spinning the bag to twist the neck closed, and turn the
>top inside out and pull it down over the bread like rolling up a pair
>of socks. It's pretty much air tight, and much simpler than trying to
>jam the clip onto the twisted bag.
I just tuck the rest of the bag under the remaining bread. It's
airtight enough. Back when I had maid service, she'd spin down the
opening before using the closer, and the spin-down would crush several
slices.
--
apart from one noisy guy up in Canada, no-one wants
a three-cylinder tissue box on bicycle tires.
Greg Goss
But then doesn't that bring up the "Thermos question"?
>V., unwhooshing the whooshed since, well, today at least.
--
Bill Turlock
>
> Veronique <veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 9, 9:20 pm, bill van <bill...@skipthis.shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> In article <0001HW.C71E1CAD000AE42BB0102...@nntp.earthlink.net>,
> >> Hieronymus Agricola <use...@bauerstar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:37:26 -0800, Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer) wrote
> >> > (in article <lpnhf55vehgk9j53kd4pl82blr20jku...@4ax.com>):
> >>
> >> > > I toss them into the freezer to nuke as needed.
> >>
> >> > Does that work?
> >>
> >> If you mean, do the buns come out reasonably fresh-tasting after they
> >> have been frozen and then microwaved, the answer is generally yes. But
> >> you have to freeze them while they really are fresh, and you have to
> >> make sure the bag is airtight, or they'll get freezer burn.
> >>
> >> bill, not afraid to be whooshed
> >
> >
> >I use my freezer to freeze, and when I had a microwave, I used that to
> >heat. Sounds like Mary Shafer has found an ingenious kitchen appliance
> >that does both.
>
> But then doesn't that bring up the "Thermos question"?
How does it *know*?
Bob Ward
Is that whooshing something like trienniums, where Bo one but you can
hear it? Some of us weren't so confused by the concept.
Bob Ward
>>I usually toss the bread clips when I open a loaf of bread - then
>>close it by spinning the bag to twist the neck closed, and turn the
>>top inside out and pull it down over the bread like rolling up a pair
>>of socks. It's pretty much air tight, and much simpler than trying to
>>jam the clip onto the twisted bag.
>
>I just tuck the rest of the bag under the remaining bread. It's
>airtight enough. Back when I had maid service, she'd spin down the
>opening before using the closer, and the spin-down would crush several
>slices.
The problem with that is that if the bread is moved inadvertently, and
the end comes un tucked, the bread dries out. Stuff gets moved around
quite often - it's a cheap way to avoid wasting the bread. Tell the
maid not to take out her frustrations on your toast embryos.
1bnbh...@gmail.com
> What do you call them? There are two kinds. One I don't have a name
> for at all. The other, I have a couple of names for, but don't know
> if they're in common use.
>
> 1. The short wire with a thin strip of plastic or paper that you
> twist around to close it. The family of a friend called them "tie
> ties" and I picked that up from him. My family knows the term too.
> But if I were trying to communicate with an outsider, I'd call them
> "twist ties" or maybe "twisty ties".
>
> Bonus Question: Which way do you twist them to tighten, which way to
> loosen? Do you ever encounter it done the opposite of what you're
> expecting and you end up tightening it more when you thought you were
> loosening it?
>
>
>
> Bonus Question: Is it true that someone owns a patent on that and is
> fabulously wealthy because of the invention? I'd Google it myself if
> I knew what to call the things.
>
> Opus the Penguin
> The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
HVS
Who does that? Right
thing.