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Eddie G

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Feb 16, 2002, 11:36:21 PM2/16/02
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My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ago new
years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our shower and
sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why this is and if
there is anything that can be done about it?

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Carl Fink

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Feb 17, 2002, 12:14:06 AM2/17/02
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In article <9rGb8.51501$X64.17...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, Eddie G
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Obvious question: do you have copper pipes in your house?
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mike (aka socalmike)

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Feb 17, 2002, 2:07:18 AM2/17/02
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"Eddie G" <mick...@home.com> wrote in message
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unused copper piping... use it more often.
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Perry Farmer

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Feb 17, 2002, 4:52:18 AM2/17/02
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-> My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ago
-> new years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our
-> shower and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why
-> this is and if there is anything that can be done about it?

Assuming your tub is white, put less water in it or get a deeper tub.

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-> M&E

Perry

KGename

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Feb 17, 2002, 9:18:59 AM2/17/02
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For it was written:

>
>-> My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ago
>-> new years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our
>-> shower and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why
>-> this is and if there is anything that can be done about it?
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Is the tub supplied with copper or brass pipes? How about the tub faucet
body? Sometimes, reactions between minerals (especially chlorine) within the
water and copper will turn the water green. This shows up mostly on the hot
water side.
What can be done? Run the water until it's clear. Then, fill the tub & take a
bath. Do this every time you need a bath until the inside of the pipes form the
obligatory scale of minerals that coats water pipes. Then the water will be
clear all the time.
Also, the green might be Plumber's Grease that is applied to the faucet
cartridge prior to insertion into the valve body. Keeps the rubber O-ring from
tearing. Excess grease will continue to flush out 'til they be no more. Depends
on how much grease was used at the factory. Someimes the assembly line workers
are giggling too much from the alternate "rubber-grease-body-insertion"
connotation to be paying the proper attention to their work.
Hope this helps...

73,
Keith

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chrisgreville

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Feb 17, 2002, 9:48:16 AM2/17/02
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"KGename" <kge...@aol.comcrap> wrote in message
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> For it was written:

Someimes the assembly line workers
> are giggling too much from the alternate "rubber-grease-body-insertion"
> connotation to be paying the proper attention to their work.
> Hope this helps...

Take me to that factory please. Beats vaseline and KY anyday by the sounds
of it.

Chris " Strange people, these Americans" Greville


ctc...@hotmail.com

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Feb 17, 2002, 1:20:27 PM2/17/02
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I would recommend storing the tub empty, rather than full. Either that
or use it more often, so the copper corrosion doesn't accumulate.

Xho

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Perry Farmer

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Feb 17, 2002, 5:12:44 PM2/17/02
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-> "Eddie G" <mick...@home.com> wrote:
-> > My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ag
-> > years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our s
-> > and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why this is
-> > and if there is anything that can be done about it?

-> I would recommend storing the tub empty, rather than full. Either that
-> or use it more often, so the copper corrosion doesn't accumulate.

Could it be that because he has a white tub* that it just looks green in
much the same way that deep water looks blue?

-> Xho

Perry


*guessing that it is white.

Eddie G

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Feb 17, 2002, 9:10:52 PM2/17/02
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> -> > My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ag
> -> > years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our s
> -> > and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why this
is
> -> > and if there is anything that can be done about it?
>
> -> I would recommend storing the tub empty, rather than full. Either that
> -> or use it more often, so the copper corrosion doesn't accumulate.
>
> Could it be that because he has a white tub* that it just looks green in
> much the same way that deep water looks blue?

I filled the tub and filled a bucket and poured some water in the sink and
also took the bucket into a different room and the water is definitely
green.

Perry Farmer

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Feb 18, 2002, 4:00:56 AM2/18/02
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-> > -> > My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a ye
-> > -> > years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint.
-> > -> > and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why
-> is
-> > -> > and if there is anything that can be done about it?
-> >
-> > -> I would recommend storing the tub empty, rather than full. Eith
-> > -> or use it more often, so the copper corrosion doesn't accumulate.
-> >
-> > Could it be that because he has a white tub* that it just looks gre
-> > much the same way that deep water looks blue?

-> I filled the tub and filled a bucket and poured some water in the sink and
-> also took the bucket into a different room and the water is definitely
-> green.

The reason why I asked is that the water in my tub also appears green,
but only in the tub. It would be unusual for only one area to have green
water unless it had an unusual run of pipe.

I assume you also filled your bucket from other sources such as a shower
in order to make sure that you just have not noticed the green
appearance elsewhere.

One thing to be careful about is if this run of pipe happens to be
underground. If so and it has a hole in it, it will leak into the
surrounding ground until it is saturated. Then when you run water
through it, it is actually possible for it to suck some back in.

If it is simply copper pipe that has formed a lining, you may think
about a shot fed chlorination of the pipe to get rid of it. After that
you may do what businesses have done to allow their continue use of
older copper pipe with drinking water systems and that is to seed the
water (I forget what we used at work) to form a protective lining of the
copper pipe to keep it from leaching into the water.

Is your system already chlorinated? If so can you smell it?

Perry

KGename

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Feb 18, 2002, 11:53:39 AM2/18/02
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It is green because the chlorine and florine in the water is reacting with
the exposed copper on the inside of the water piping. Usually these chemicals
are added by your municipal water supplier, but would be augmented
significantly by use of a domestic water softener.
With time, a nice coating of calcium will form on the inside of same pipes,
significantly reducing the -ines from contacting the copper, and therefore
reducing the reaction as well. After that time, the green will almost
indetectable.
Eventually, the water will have no more green tint. (Until such time that you
need to do repairs on the water pipes for whatever reason, that is. Disturbing
the piping will cause the calcium coating to flake off, leaving exposed copper
to cause the problem all over again.)
Allow about 60 days of normal, everyday use for the green to become
unnoticable.
Check back and let us know the results; I sure as hell ain't coming over to
your house to bathe until I am assured that I won't be greener than when I got
in your tub.

Lalbert1

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Feb 18, 2002, 12:25:17 PM2/18/02
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In article <MoZb8.52332$X64.18...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Eddie G"
<mick...@home.com> writes:

>> -> > My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a year ag
>> -> > years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint. Our s
>> -> > and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know why this is
>> -> > and if there is anything that can be done about it?

>> Could it be that because he has a white tub* that it just looks green in


>> much the same way that deep water looks blue?

>I filled the tub and filled a bucket and poured some water in the sink and
>also took the bucket into a different room and the water is definitely
>green.


As Kermit once sang, "It's not easy being green".

Les

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rob...@bestweb.net

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Feb 18, 2002, 1:21:28 PM2/18/02
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On 2002-02-18 mick...@home.com said in part:

>I filled the tub and filled a bucket and poured some water in the
>sink and also took the bucket into a different room and the water
>is definitely green.

Do that with the hot & cold separately? If only one of them is green, it's
probably just a corroded washer. Lucky it's not leaking (yet).

Perry Farmer

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Feb 18, 2002, 1:22:32 PM2/18/02
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-> Eddie G wrote:
-> >
-> >> -> > My wife and I don't use our bath tub often (last time was a y
-> >> -> > years) and when the tub fills up the water has a green tint.
-> >> -> > and sink water everywhere else is clear. Does anyone know wh
-> >is
-> >> -> > and if there is anything that can be done about it?
-> >>
-> >> -> I would recommend storing the tub empty, rather than full. Eit
-> >> -> or use it more often, so the copper corrosion doesn't accumulate.
-> >>
-> >> Could it be that because he has a white tub* that it just looks gr
-> >> much the same way that deep water looks blue?
-> >
-> >I filled the tub and filled a bucket and poured some water in the si
-> >also took the bucket into a different room and the water is definitely
-> >green.
-> >

-> It is green because the chlorine and florine in the water is reacting with
-> the exposed copper on the inside of the water piping. Usually these chemicals
-> are added by your municipal water supplier, but would be augmented
-> significantly by use of a domestic water softener.
-> With time, a nice coating of calcium will form on the inside of same pipes,
-> significantly reducing the -ines from contacting the copper, and therefore
-> reducing the reaction as well. After that time, the green will almost
-> indetectable.

Since this tub is not used all that often, if the pipes are well
insulated, this may be a good candidate for a small orificed bypass line
for maintaining flow through the hot water line via natural circulation.

Evidentally the tub is on a loop that gets little flow. Otherwise any
green from pipe reaction should be flushed out easily prior to filling.
Of possibly greater concerned maybe the need to seal the inside of the
pipes for drinking purposes due to the solder joints used.

-> 73,
-> Keith

Perry

Eddie G

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Feb 18, 2002, 9:49:21 PM2/18/02
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One question I forgot to ask...is it OK to bathe in the green water?

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rob...@bestweb.net

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Feb 18, 2002, 10:28:55 PM2/18/02
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On 2002-02-18 perry....@thefarm.tzo.com(PerryFarmer) said in part:

>Since this tub is not used all that often, if the pipes are well
>insulated, this may be a good candidate for a small orificed bypass
>line for maintaining flow through the hot water line via natural
>circulation.

Since this tub is not used all that often, I'd say it's a good candidate to
be ripped out and better use made of the space that also might improve
resale value. The next owners'd probably want to replace the tub anyway.

One bath every year or two, huh? Doesn't do my invention much good. Let me
guess:

Shower being worked on?
Kids come for a few days?
New Year ritual? (snipped mention of use New Year's Day)
Need occasional reminders of what it feels like, to confirm your dislike?
Catch the flu & need to reduce fever?
Bath gourmets who can do it right only rarely, and won't accept quick dip?

Robert

rob...@bestweb.net

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Feb 18, 2002, 11:06:04 PM2/18/02
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>One question I forgot to ask...is it OK to bathe in the green water?

If it's green from Cu as we suspect, it may color your hair. Powdered
Calgon products -- Bouquet bath, bath oil beads, bubble bath, or water
softener -- may prevent that; I'm not sure how well polyphosphates (or
citrate in the no-phosphate version of the water softener) complex Cu.

Robert

Perry Farmer

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Feb 18, 2002, 11:29:29 PM2/18/02
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-> One question I forgot to ask...is it OK to bathe in the green water?

Ask a medical doctor.

Perry

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