Fifty Ugliest Cars?
Greg Goss
many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
"normal".
El Camino?
Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
Bricklin? I like the two dimensional wave over the front wheels.
I'd have to see one of the Bonds in real life before deciding that
they were cute or ugly.
Volvo? One of my favourite lines from an eighties movie was "In the
eighties, it's not safe to be sexy. Volvo. Safe, not sexy." In
other words, sure it was ugly. I think that was almost deliberate.
--
apart from one noisy guy up in Canada, no-one wants
a three-cylinder tissue box on bicycle tires.
Greg Goss
>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>"normal".
Sorry, didn't mean to hit "send" just yet.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/10/1028_50_ugliest_cars_of_past_50_years/1.htm
We're talking looks, right? So why does the Yugo get a listing of its
own, rather than just being a Fiat 128 clone set up by Fiat -- just
like the Lada and probably a dozen other brands that never made it to
America.
DeLorean? Remember, this car was chosen for a youth-oriented movie
with the line "Why can't a time machine look cool" or some such.
Sable? I don't think "a high bleh factor." gets you to "ugly". Ugly
is far beyond "ordinary".
S Cargo? I've seen one in real life. An ultra-compact "Kei Car"
delivery van designed to fit under Japan's 600 cc (and other limits)
requirements for a special low-cost registration class. I just love
someone with the guts to name (and style) a vehicle after a snail.
Twingo? Never seen one in real life, but it looks pretty normal in
the photo he provides. I like a steep hood after I got used to not
seeing anything forward from my windshield on my Metro. Why should
the car stick way out in front unless you're compensating for a
feeling of inadequacy?
Rav4? My brother had a Rav4. It looked a lot "milder" and longer
than the example photo provided here. I'll agree with him that the
version shown here is ugly.
He complains that the Suzuki X-90 has an inadequate front, too. I
think that this author has problems with his masculinity. The front
of that car is OK. It's just that the conversion from micropickup to
notchback made the back end ugly.
I liked the "melted" Fords of the mid-eighties. He chooses the Taurus
to represent the breed.
I'll agree with him on the "New" Beetle. But wasn't the "cool looks"
the whole point of the PT Cruiser? Nobody would buy it for anything
else. (Well, my disabled friend likes hers for the very high seating
position -- something difficult to get without going pickup.)
Where'd he manage to find an all-black picture of an Aztek? The car
almost looks workable when you discard the schoolbus yellow of all the
ones I've seen.
His write-up of the Avalanche doesn't even mention the "masses of
plastic" that is my impression whenever I see it. It looks like
something from Fisher Price. Again, he found a photo where the
plasticness of the bottom half of the doors and the roll bar don't
scream at you.
Beamer Seven? I can't see the butt he's critiquing in this photo, and
tend not to hang out with beamer owners. But I don't see anything
wrong with the photo he includes.
I wouldn't own one, but he critiques the SSR as being cartoony. I
think that's the feel that Chev was going for.
art...@yahoo.com
> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
> El Camino?
El Camino, El El Camino
The front looks like a car
The back looks like a truck
The front is where you drive
the back is where you..
El Camino, El El Camino...
(Repeat)
(Ultimate Frisbee Cheer)
Veronique
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> >many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> >"normal".
>
There were only three or four truly ugly vehicles listed...a lot of
ordinary ones, and a fair number that I don't understand why they made
the list at all. I agree with the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche
(I like the Subaru Baja much better, and think the El Camino is of
course classic for this kind of hybrid), AMC Pacer, and the ultimate
ugly car, the Pontiac Aztec.
I was amused by the inclusion of the DeLorean though; the other day I
saw one and was shocked at how poorly the design had aged.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
rroger
They forgot the "Steve Erkel" car from the show family matters, (the
whole front panel was the door and the steering wheel was fixed to the
inside of the door), and also the Smart Car.
--
rr-thinks BOTH versions of the beetle are ugly-oger
Tim Wright
Erkel's car was a BMW Isetta.
http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/bmwisetta250.html
--
Tim W
Onomatopoeia
A word that sounds like the sound it sounds like.
rroger
>
> --
>
> Tim W
>
> Onomatopoeia
> A word that sounds like the sound it sounds like.
Yep, *DEFINITELY* ugly!!!
Mark Steese
news:7leoo5F...@mid.individual.net:
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>>"normal".
>
> Sorry, didn't mean to hit "send" just yet.
> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/10/1028_50_ugliest_cars_of_past_50
> _years/1.htm
>
> We're talking looks, right? So why does the Yugo get a listing of its
> own, rather than just being a Fiat 128 clone set up by Fiat -- just
> like the Lada and probably a dozen other brands that never made it to
> America.
Even more curious, the caption sez "The Yugo gets rapped for being ugly, when
it was really more of a mechanical nightmare. Consumer Reports told shoppers
they'd be better off with any used car than a brand-new Yugo. The body's
design, though, isn't too far from the language of Volkswagen and Volvo:
simple, proportional, and efficient." So even the guy who wrote the list
doesn't think it belongs on the list? Weird.
> DeLorean? Remember, this car was chosen for a youth-oriented movie
> with the line "Why can't a time machine look cool" or some such.
More than one rock star has capitalized on the fact that cool and ugly are
not mutually exclusive.
--
Mark Steese
=======================================================================
PS: Your second question, you thought I forgot? I didn't. I never found
the banana slug. - William Least Heat-Moon
Veronique
> On Nov 4, 9:04 pm, Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 5:40 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> > > Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> > > >I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> > > >many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> > > >"normal".
>
> > > Sorry, didn't mean to hit "send" just yet.http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/10/1028_50_ugliest_cars_of_past_...
>
> > There were only three or four truly ugly vehicles listed...a lot of
> > ordinary ones, and a fair number that I don't understand why they made
> > the list at all. I agree with the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche
> > (I like the Subaru Baja much better, and think the El Camino is of
> > course classic for this kind of hybrid), AMC Pacer, and the ultimate
> > ugly car, the Pontiac Aztec.
>
> > I was amused by the inclusion of the DeLorean though; the other day I
> > saw one and was shocked at how poorly the design had aged.
>
> They forgot the "Steve Erkel" car from the show family matters, (the
> whole front panel was the door and the steering wheel was fixed to the
> inside of the door), and also the Smart Car.
I like the Smart Car.
> rr-thinks BOTH versions of the beetle are ugly-oger
Ah, opinions.
rroger
Here are some cars that I think are GOOD looking: Corvette, the kind
of Ferrari that Magnum pi drove, and the original style Dodge Viper.
There maybe others that I'm not thinking of/remembering right now; but
those are some examples.
Tom S.
commemorates the 50 worst cars of all time
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/1,28757,1658545,00.html
There were some surprise (to me) entries on the list, like the 1980
Corvette 305 "California", as well as the expected 1985 Yugo. The one
whose description I laughed at the most was the 1956 Renault Dauphine.
"...if you stood beside it, you could actually hear rusting." and "It
took the drivers at Road and Track 32 seconds to reach 60 mph, which
would put the Dauphine at a severe disadvantage in any drag race
involving farm equipment."
I am sure you can find one of your favorites in the list some where.
Tom S.
Tom S.
wrote:
The 1967 Pontiac GTO. They don't get much better looking.
Tom S.
Veronique
1971 Chrysler LeBaron: "...Appearing to have been hewn from solid
blocks of mediocrity..."
V. "but O NOES, do not diss the Amphicar!"
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Mac
> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
> El Camino?
> Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
> much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
Gotta disagree with this, twice. The Pinto wasn't a particular
firetrap. All of the smaller cars were to some extent; the only one
that stood out head-and-shoulders was the Gremlin, which seem to have
been designed for the benefit of plastic surgeons and burn clinics.
Next, the Vega, a horrendous little car in execution, wasn't bad
looking, and had similar performance to the Pinto...or would have, if
any of them had been built right.
I also rather like the Thing/Kubelwagen; its lines are good, even if
it is a little spartan. Far from being ugly, I'd say the Taurus was a
victim of its own success: it seems that every car following it was
either influenced by it, or the jaguoid Buicks. Oh, it's the later
ones. Yeah, they were ugly. That Fiat Multipla looked like what
would breed if Jar-jar Binks raped a kitchen appliance.
Les Albert
wrote:
>
>Here are some cars that I think are GOOD looking: Corvette, the kind
>of Ferrari that Magnum pi drove, and the original style Dodge Viper.
>There maybe others that I'm not thinking of/remembering right now; but
>those are some examples.
Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
Les
CT
> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
AMC Pacer
Porsche 914 roller skate
Pontiac Aztek
Chevy Vega
Honda Element
AMC Gremlin
Dodge Power Wagon
Pontiac Safari (station wagon)
...just some of the uglies that come to mind. Sadly, my family has
owned a couple of the cars on the list...
Jim Beaver
"Greg Goss" <go...@gossg.org> wrote in message
news:7lemmnF...@mid.individual.net...
>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
> El Camino?
I'm sorry, but that's a hot car.
http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/ElCaminoSS3.jpg My '76 didn't look
as good, but it's still the best car I ever owned.
Jim Beaver
Snidely
> Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
Go back to your corner, you meanie.
/dps
Snidely
> commemorates the 50 worst cars of all time
>
> http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/1,28757,1658545,00.html
>
Interesting that the lists overlap ....
/dps
Boron Elgar
I'll second that. I was always a big fan of El Caminos and loved
driving the one I had access to at work.
The only time I get to see them these days is when I visit SoCal and I
always heave a nostalgia-laden sigh when one drives by.
Boron
landotter
> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
> El Camino?
> Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
> much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
>
> Bricklin? I like the two dimensional wave over the front wheels.
>
> I'd have to see one of the Bonds in real life before deciding that
> they were cute or ugly.
>
> Volvo? One of my favourite lines from an eighties movie was "In the
> eighties, it's not safe to be sexy. Volvo. Safe, not sexy." In
> other words, sure it was ugly. I think that was almost deliberate.
I can't even believe they put the Citroen on the list. It's gorgeous.
Even the eastern European cars of similar vintage are pretty good
looking, with a brutalist flavor.
At least my 1st car didn't make the list, a handsome Saab 96. :-D
Wanna see some gorgeous cars? Check out our local Lane Motor Museum!:
http://lanemotormuseum.org/
S. Checker
> Going through the 50 ugliest reminded me of this site that
> commemorates the 50 worst cars of all time
>
> http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/1,28757,1658545,00.html
>
> There were some surprise (to me) entries on the list, like the 1980
> Corvette 305 "California"
That doesn't surprise me. The whole period where the Feds went crazy
with regulation and the carmakers didn't know what to do led to so many
monstrosities, a number of which I saw on the "Ugliest" and the "Worst"
lists. Having first become interested in cars in the mid-1980s, I have
to regard the current crop of cars, both foreign and domestic, as
something of a miracle. They're still too heavy, and the "security mom"
styling of the past decade is pretty ugly, but there are some wonderful
automobiles out there.
> I am sure you can find one of your favorites in the list some where.
I disagreed with the Element in the, I think, "Ugliest" list. It's a
box and it looks like a box, but since that's what Honda was aiming for
they were right on target.
I also disagreed with the Jaguar X-Type. A bad move for Jag's branding,
for sure, but a good car.
--
Let the people think they govern and they will be governed.
-- William Penn
Wally Sevits
>Going through the 50 ugliest reminded me of this site that
>commemorates the 50 worst cars of all time
>
>http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/1,28757,1658545,00.html
>
>There were some surprise (to me) entries on the list, like the 1980
>Corvette 305 "California", as well as the expected 1985 Yugo. The one
>whose description I laughed at the most was the 1956 Renault Dauphine.
>"...if you stood beside it, you could actually hear rusting." and "It
>took the drivers at Road and Track 32 seconds to reach 60 mph, which
>would put the Dauphine at a severe disadvantage in any drag race
>involving farm equipment."
>
Why, the Renault Dauphine was the Winter Wondercar!
(boop-boop, beep-beep)
M. Shirley Chong
> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> "normal".
>
> El Camino?
> Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
> much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
Hey, I graduated in 1976 and I thought El Caminos and Pintos were
incredibly ugly even then. They have not gotten any more attractive
to me with time. I thought the Mustang II was hideous as well.
I drove and adored a 72 Olds Toronado. She had power, she had
luxury, she had it all:
http://www.thefreewheelers.net/images/autos/large/1972_Oldsmobile_Toronado.jpg
or
Mine was emerald green with a beige vinyl roof (a bitch to clean!).
Okay, so she got about 10 mpg. And if she wasn't tuned just so, she
did tend to diesel a bit when you tried to turn her off. She pleased
my father because he wanted a heavy car (she weighed 4600+ pounds
empty) for safety. She pleased me because she could go anywhere and
her hood was perfect for watching the stars from.
I am happy to say that she has yet to go to the junkyard; she was
sold in 1982 to a guy who loves her and keeps her in wonderful
condition. I last saw her on a trip to Iowa City in 2006 and she
looked as gorgeous as ever. Her owner told me that she only goes out
on nice days now and is *never* parked downtown (kids have no
respect for classic cars like her).
Shirley
Bill Turlock
>
> Greg Goss wrote:
>
> > I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> > many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> > "normal".
> >
> > El Camino?
> > Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
> > much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
>
> Hey, I graduated in 1976 and I thought El Caminos and Pintos were
> incredibly ugly even then. They have not gotten any more attractive
> to me with time. I thought the Mustang II was hideous as well.
>
> I drove and adored a 72 Olds Toronado. She had power, she had
> luxury, she had it all:
>
> http://www.thefreewheelers.net/images/autos/large/1972_Oldsmobile_Toronado.jpg
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9dt6m4
Puts the "ugh" in ug-leeee!
DT
lalb...@aol.com says...
>Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
Nice, mine was a 1957 Triumph TR3, which I still have.
--
Dennis
DT
Or as we learned it, "She looks like Bruce Lee's sister - Ug". Not that the
Toronado is ugly, I'm just mentioning the saying.
--
Dennis
Les Albert
wrote:
>lalb...@aol.com says...
>>Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
>Nice, mine was a 1957 Triumph TR3, which I still have.
You have owned the car since 1957?
Les
Tom S.
And one is from Time and the other from Business Week.
Tom S.
Snidely
Hey, it varies greatly with the year ... I'd like one from 1958 or so,
with the horizontal fins. My girlfriend has an 82 or 86 (I forget
which) which isn't ugly, just kinda regulation white collar.
(It also is no fun to drive, since the brakes take a lot of work and
the exhaust smells as bad as a delivery truck, a smell you find at a
lot of classic car meets.)
/dps
Snidely
Oops -- the El Camino branch is up a couple of rows isn't it.
But while I'm here, what was the Caddy that borrowed the Gremlin rear
end?
/dps
Snidely
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:39:00 -0800, "Jim Beaver"
>
(getting this in the right sub-thread this time) I'd like one from
1958 or so,
with the horizontal fins. My girlfriend has an 82 or 86 (I forget
which) which isn't ugly, just kinda regulation white collar.
(It also is no fun to drive, since the brakes take a lot of work and
the exhaust smells as bad as a delivery truck, a smell you find at a
lot of classic car meets.)
/dps
DT
lalb...@aol.com says...
I bought it used in 1964. 45 years and counting.
--
Dennis
DT
<1bf194e7-360f-4c0e...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
snide...@gmail.com says...
The Seville? It is called the "bustle back".
--
Dennis
Snidely
> snidely....@gmail.com saith...
> >But while I'm here, what was the Caddy that borrowed the Gremlin rear
> >end?
>
> The Seville? It is called the "bustle back".
Ayyup. I rest my case.
/dps
Observer
>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>"normal".
>
>El Camino?
>Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
>much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
>
>Bricklin? I like the two dimensional wave over the front wheels.
>
>I'd have to see one of the Bonds in real life before deciding that
>they were cute or ugly.
>
>Volvo? One of my favourite lines from an eighties movie was "In the
>eighties, it's not safe to be sexy. Volvo. Safe, not sexy." In
>other words, sure it was ugly. I think that was almost deliberate.
Scion isn't listed. I guess "Fugly" is overqualified.
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Robert Crowe
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:53:19 -0500, the alleged DT, may have posted the
following, to alt.fan.cecil-adams:
Mine was a 1974 Triumph Spitfire, of which there are major bits and
pieces in the 1978 Spitfire that I still have. The best thing about
the '78 is the factory hard-top and the worst is the ugly bumpers.
Regards,
Rob "I still miss my 1963 'Bug-Eye' A-H Sprite" Crowe
--
�you're reminded to enjoy every sandwich.
-- Warren Zevon
DT
>I disagreed with the Element in the, I think, "Ugliest" list. It's a
>box and it looks like a box, but since that's what Honda was aiming for
>they were right on target.
My thoughts also. As opposed to the Pontaic Aztek, where they were
trying for a crossover SUV that had the Pontiac corporate front grill
and a more streamlined rear end, and what they ended up with is an SUV
with a honkin huge nose and an ass that took its styling cues from a
Dempster Dumpster.
--
Dennis
Greg Goss
>I drove and adored a 72 Olds Toronado. She had power, she had
>luxury, she had it all:
>
>http://www.thefreewheelers.net/images/autos/large/1972_Oldsmobile_Toronado.jpg
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/y9dt6m4
>
>Mine was emerald green with a beige vinyl roof (a bitch to clean!).
>Okay, so she got about 10 mpg. And if she wasn't tuned just so, she
>did tend to diesel a bit when you tried to turn her off. She pleased
>my father because he wanted a heavy car (she weighed 4600+ pounds
>empty) for safety. She pleased me because she could go anywhere and
>her hood was perfect for watching the stars from.
In my rat-racing CB crowd days, there was a guy with a 72 green and
beige Toronado. His brother had some kind of oversized late fifties
Buick wagon. I forget which of the twins was driving in the following
anecdote.
I was approaching a parking lot where we were gathering, and he tried
to cut me off. I turned to avoid him. We ended up going in circles
-- my Mazda 1200 doing untouchable circles entirely within his turning
radius. My newer cars have never had the same turning radius that old
Mazda had. You can't crank the front wheels quite so far over if
there're drive shafts in 'em.
--
apart from one noisy guy up in Canada, no-one wants
a three-cylinder tissue box on bicycle tires.
Bill Turlock
But it is. So was the TR7
Bill Turlock
Was the cadillac cimarron mentioned?
Bill Turlock
Mmmm... Bug-Eye Sprite!
Robert Crowe
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:06:33 -0800, the alleged Bill Turlock, may have
posted the following, to alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>Robert Crowe wrote:
<snip>
>>Mine was a 1974 Triumph Spitfire, of which there are major bits and
>>pieces in the 1978 Spitfire that I still have. The best thing about
>>the '78 is the factory hard-top and the worst is the ugly bumpers.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob "I still miss my 1963 'Bug-Eye' A-H Sprite" Crowe
>
>Mmmm... Bug-Eye Sprite!
You mean "Mmmmashed� Bug-Eye Sprite!". Left-turn off of a limited-
access highway on to a four-lane road, I was running a bit late to
get to work. Yellow light! Add a damp roadway and a slightly missed
down-shift, attendant over-braking and a guard-rail. Massive damage
to the entire right-side. I ended-up being more than a bit late to
work that day. The cop that took the accident report first words
were "You O.K.?", followed closely by "Awww� man!". Sucked to be me
that day!
Regards,
Rob "Yet, still 'Yellow = Go Faster'" Crowe
Snidely
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:06:33 -0800, the alleged Bill Turlock, may have
> posted the following, to alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> >Robert Crowe wrote:
> >> Rob "I still miss my 1963 'Bug-Eye' A-H Sprite" Crowe
>
> >Mmmm... Bug-Eye Sprite!
>
> You mean "Mmmmashed… Bug-Eye Sprite!".
I think he meant in a tumbler, served on the rocks.
Not sure my brother's A-H was a Sprite, but it was on open car. Since
it had no rollbar, it was good it had no seatbelts. Lasted less than
a day. That day was probably in 1962 or 1963.
/dps
DT
"BillTurlock"@sonnnic.invalid says...
Crucified.
--
Dennis
S. Checker
I think it was on the "Worst" list but not the "Ugliest." Which I agree
with. Also on the "Worst" list from Caddy - the Escalade. Another
disagreement from me. They seem to have decided that it's a moral evil
to drive one since it's conspicuous consumption and not super
fuel-efficient, but if you're going to pick on the Escalade, why not
the Lincoln Navigator, or the Lexus whatever the hell the number is for
their Land Cruiser variant? Why not, on the same grounds, criticize the
early 1970s Eldorados and Coupes de Ville (see what I did there?), or
for that matter the V-16s from the 1930s[L]?
The point of the Caddys is to be big and powerful and striking, and the
Escalades, especially the later models when they had more of their own
personality, did that. I wouldn't drive one on salary (well, not on a
small salary) but I don't think they're among the 50 worst cars ever by
a long shot.
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
DT
>Also on the "Worst" list from Caddy - the Escalade. Another
>disagreement from me. They seem to have decided that it's a moral evil
>to drive one since it's conspicuous consumption and not super
>fuel-efficient, but if you're going to pick on the Escalade, why not
>the Lincoln Navigator, or the Lexus whatever the hell the number is for
>their Land Cruiser variant? Why not, on the same grounds, criticize the
>early 1970s Eldorados and Coupes de Ville (see what I did there?), or
>for that matter the V-16s from the 1930s[L]?
>
>The point of the Caddys is to be big and powerful and striking, and the
>Escalades, especially the later models when they had more of their own
>personality, did that. I wouldn't drive one on salary (well, not on a
>small salary) but I don't think they're among the 50 worst cars ever by
>a long shot.
Exactly, Cadillac really hit the mark with the Escalade. Hell, Tony Soprano
drove one! My son and I were talking about conspicuous consumption vehicles,
and we came up with a pearl white Escalade with a completely chromed snow
plow on the front. Hot damn!
--
Dennis
Snidely
> Also on the "Worst" list from Caddy - the Escalade. Another
> disagreement from me. They seem to have decided that it's a moral evil
> to drive one since it's conspicuous consumption and not super
> fuel-efficient, but if you're going to pick on the Escalade, why not
> the Lincoln Navigator, or the Lexus whatever the hell the number is for
> their Land Cruiser variant?
They did criticize the Ford Explorer for being the camel's nose in the
tent.
> Why not, on the same grounds, criticize the
> early 1970s Eldorados and Coupes de Ville (see what I did there?), or
> for that matter the V-16s from the 1930s[L]?
Those are already dead and buried, so got left off to leave room for
the Renault.
/dps
bill van
DT <dthomp...@wowway.com> wrote:
The Escalade is a favourite with local gangsters here, outfitted with
bullet-proof glass, armour plating and secret gun compartments.
Bill Turlock
Almost killed the Marque.
Bill Turlock
just a re-badged Suburban.
S. Checker
>
>> The point of the Caddys is to be big and powerful and striking, and the
>> Escalades, especially the later models when they had more of their own
>> personality, did that. I wouldn't drive one on salary (well, not on a
>> small salary) but I don't think they're among the 50 worst cars ever by
>> a long shot.
>
> just a re-badged Suburban.
It used to be. Now there's a lot more styling and content difference.
It's like saying a Hummer H3 is just a re-badged Chevy Colorado. True
but not accurate.
--
"Death before dishonor,
Drugs before lunch...."
-Aspen Gun and Drug Club
S. Checker
Somewhere there is a Cadillac executive, weeping with joy.
--
When one wants to get rid of an unsupportable pressure, one needs
hashish.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
Don K
news:20091105-2...@DT.news.wowway.com...
> In article <k9m4f5t0i8trbel5k...@4ax.com>,
> lalb...@aol.com says...
>
>>Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
>
>
> Nice, mine was a 1957 Triumph TR3, which I still have.
Just as a heads-up,... and I don't want you cause any worry, but I once
considered getting a Triumph TR4, but didn't, because I heard they
had reliability issues.
I mean, you may get lucky and yours may yet turn out to be the exception,
but it might be prudent to keep an watchful eye on it, just in case.
Anyway, had I gotten a TR4, I probably would have had to go through
a succession of air-headed floozies before ending up with the lovely
and sensible Mrs. K.
So sometimes things do work out for the best.
Don
Don K
news:ec17f5p1rdjaiodpu...@4ax.com...
>
> Scion isn't listed. I guess "Fugly" is overqualified.
I test-drove a Scion XB last weekend. I was impressed with the
amazing roominess of the interior.
Somehow they manage to get the volume of the interior to
exceed the volume of the exterior.
I don't care how it looks like on the outside, because I will
be sitting inside and I won't have to look at it.
Don
Les Albert
>"DT" <dthomp...@wowway.com> wrote
>> lalb...@aol.com says...
>>>Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
>> Nice, mine was a 1957 Triumph TR3, which I still have.
>Just as a heads-up,... and I don't want you cause any worry, but I once
>considered getting a Triumph TR4, but didn't, because I heard they
>had reliability issues.
>I mean, you may get lucky and yours may yet turn out to be the exception,
>but it might be prudent to keep an watchful eye on it, just in case. ...
He bought it used in 1964 and has owned it for 45 years. It seems
reliable.
The MGA coupe above was my favorite of all the cars that I owned, but
this one was the best in terms of handling, styling, and other
factors:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4078113263/
I drove it for 12 years, and never a bit of trouble.
Les
Les Albert
>I test-drove a Scion XB last weekend. I was impressed with the
>amazing roominess of the interior.
>Somehow they manage to get the volume of the interior to
>exceed the volume of the exterior.
That would be the Tardis model.
Les
Mac
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:59:28 -0500, "Don K" <d...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> lalbe...@aol.com says...
> >>>Here is a good looking car. It was my first car:
> >>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43699691@N05/4026012561/
> >> Nice, mine was a 1957 Triumph TR3, which I still have.
> >Just as a heads-up,... and I don't want you cause any worry, but I once
> >considered getting a Triumph TR4, but didn't, because I heard they
> >had reliability issues.
> >I mean, you may get lucky and yours may yet turn out to be the exception,
> >but it might be prudent to keep an watchful eye on it, just in case. ...
>
> He bought it used in 1964 and has owned it for 45 years. It seems
> reliable.
Overhead, unseen by its hapless victim, the magnificent Woosh Bird
glided silently toward the sunset.
N Jill Marsh
>I test-drove a Scion XB last weekend. I was impressed with the
>amazing roominess of the interior.
>
>Somehow they manage to get the volume of the interior to
>exceed the volume of the exterior.
>
>I don't care how it looks like on the outside, because I will
>be sitting inside and I won't have to look at it.
My Echo hatchback is like that, and it's cute on the outside as well.
nj"little car of horrors"m
--
Welcome, stranger, to the humble neighbourhoods.
Les Albert
wrote:
I thought he might have been kidding, but wasn't sure. Only one wing
flapping on that bird.
Les
Bob Ward
wrote:
>On Nov 4, 9:55 pm, Tim Wright <tlwrigh...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> rroger wrote:
>> > On Nov 4, 9:04 pm, Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 4, 5:40 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> >>>> I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>> >>>> many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>> >>>> "normal".
>> >>> Sorry, didn't mean to hit "send" just yet.http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/10/1028_50_ugliest_cars_of_past_...
>> >> There were only three or four truly ugly vehicles listed...a lot of
>> >> ordinary ones, and a fair number that I don't understand why they made
>> >> the list at all. I agree with the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche
>> >> (I like the Subaru Baja much better, and think the El Camino is of
>> >> course classic for this kind of hybrid), AMC Pacer, and the ultimate
>> >> ugly car, the Pontiac Aztec.
>>
>> >> I was amused by the inclusion of the DeLorean though; the other day I
>> >> saw one and was shocked at how poorly the design had aged.
>>
>> >> V.
>> >> --
>> >> Veronique Chez Sheep
>>
>> > They forgot the "Steve Erkel" car from the show family matters, (the
>> > whole front panel was the door and the steering wheel was fixed to the
>> > inside of the door), and also the Smart Car.
>>
>> Erkel's car was a BMW Isetta.http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/bmwisetta250.html
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tim W
>>
>> Onomatopoeia
>> A word that sounds like the sound it sounds like.
>
>Yep, *DEFINITELY* ugly!!!
How about THIS one?
rroger
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:58:12 -0800 (PST), rroger <raust...@aol.com>
YUCK!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Ward
<snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>(getting this in the right sub-thread this time) I'd like one from
>1958 or so,
>with the horizontal fins. My girlfriend has an 82 or 86 (I forget
>which) which isn't ugly, just kinda regulation white collar.
That would be the 1959 - the first year they were made.
rroger
> On Nov 4, 9:04 pm, Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 5:40 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> > > Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> > > >I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> > > >many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> > > >"normal".
>
> > > Sorry, didn't mean to hit "send" just yet.http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/10/1028_50_ugliest_cars_of_past_...
>
> > There were only three or four truly ugly vehicles listed...a lot of
> > ordinary ones, and a fair number that I don't understand why they made
> > the list at all. I agree with the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche
> > (I like the Subaru Baja much better, and think the El Camino is of
> > course classic for this kind of hybrid), AMC Pacer, and the ultimate
> > ugly car, the Pontiac Aztec.
>
> > I was amused by the inclusion of the DeLorean though; the other day I
> > saw one and was shocked at how poorly the design had aged.
>
> > V.
> > --
> > Veronique Chez Sheep
>
> They forgot the "Steve Erkel" car from the show family matters, (the
> whole front panel was the door and the steering wheel was fixed to the
> inside of the door), and also the Smart Car.
> rr-thinks BOTH versions of the beetle are ugly-oger
Thought of 2 more. They also forgot the mini cooper and the new cube.
Bob Ward
<snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>(It also is no fun to drive, since the brakes take a lot of work and
>the exhaust smells as bad as a delivery truck, a smell you find at a
>lot of classic car meets.)
It should drive about the same as the Chevelle wagon that it was based
on - power brakes don't take all that much effort.
Bob Ward
<snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 5, 5:15�pm, Snidely <snidely....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 2:56�pm, DT <dthompson4...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >>http://tinyurl.com/y9dt6m4
>>
>> > >Puts the "ugh" in ug-leeee!
>>
>> > Or as we learned it, "She looks like Bruce Lee's sister - Ug". Not that the
>> > Toronado is ugly, I'm just mentioning the saying.
>>
>> Hey, it varies greatly with the year ... I'd like one from 1958 or so,
>> with the horizontal fins. �My girlfriend has an 82 or 86 (I forget
>> which) which isn't ugly, just kinda regulation white collar.
>>
>> (It also is no fun to drive, since the brakes take a lot of work and
>> the exhaust smells as bad as a delivery truck, a smell you find at a
>> lot of classic car meets.)
>>
>
>Oops -- the El Camino branch is up a couple of rows isn't it.
>
>But while I'm here, what was the Caddy that borrowed the Gremlin rear
>end?
>
>/dps
That was the one that looked like the garage door closed before the
car was all the way in - the Sedan DeVille. Same platform (front
wheel drive) as the Toronado.
Bob Ward
wrote:
>In article
><1bf194e7-360f-4c0e...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>snide...@gmail.com says...
>>On Nov 5, 5:15�pm, Snidely <snidely....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 5, 2:56�pm, DT <dthompson4...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > >>http://tinyurl.com/y9dt6m4
>>>
>>> > >Puts the "ugh" in ug-leeee!
>>>
>>> > Or as we learned it, "She looks like Bruce Lee's sister - Ug". Not that
>the
>>> > Toronado is ugly, I'm just mentioning the saying.
>>>
>>> Hey, it varies greatly with the year ... I'd like one from 1958 or so,
>>> with the horizontal fins. �My girlfriend has an 82 or 86 (I forget
>>> which) which isn't ugly, just kinda regulation white collar.
>>>
>>> (It also is no fun to drive, since the brakes take a lot of work and
>>> the exhaust smells as bad as a delivery truck, a smell you find at a
>>> lot of classic car meets.)
>>>
>>
>>Oops -- the El Camino branch is up a couple of rows isn't it.
>>
>>But while I'm here, what was the Caddy that borrowed the Gremlin rear
>>end?
>
>
>The Seville? It is called the "bustle back".
With the infamous "4-6-8" engine - could run on four, six, or eight
cylinders as needed - (for small values of "run")
Bob Ward
>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:05:17 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>>"normal".
>>
>>El Camino?
>>Pinto? Sure it was a firetrap, but you can't make an econobox look
>>much more distinctive without ruining the "economy" thing.
>>
>>Bricklin? I like the two dimensional wave over the front wheels.
>>
>>I'd have to see one of the Bonds in real life before deciding that
>>they were cute or ugly.
>>
>>Volvo? One of my favourite lines from an eighties movie was "In the
>>eighties, it's not safe to be sexy. Volvo. Safe, not sexy." In
>>other words, sure it was ugly. I think that was almost deliberate.
>
>Scion isn't listed. I guess "Fugly" is overqualified.
>
>
>__
The one that looks like a toaster?
>
>The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Paul L. Madarasz
wrote, perhaps among other things:
They don't make 'em much uglier, do they? (I want one!). Friend of
mine had an NSU Prinz in college -- its reverse gear was long gone, so
he just stuck his leg out and used it to back into wherever her was
going.
--
Sorry I can't stop and talk now,
I'm in kind of a hurry anyhow,
but I'll send you a tape from California.
Veronique
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:58:12 -0800 (PST), rroger <raust...@aol.com>
I would like two, please.
huey.c...@gmail.com
> "Observer" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
> > Scion isn't listed. I guess "Fugly" is overqualified.
>
> I test-drove a Scion XB last weekend. I was impressed with the amazing
> roominess of the interior.
>
> Somehow they manage to get the volume of the interior to exceed the
> volume of the exterior.
>
> I don't care how it looks like on the outside, because I will be
> sitting inside and I won't have to look at it.
You're planning on living in the thing? I suppose you could get a
chemical toilet, but at some point, getting a shower will be an issue.
--
Huey
Bob Ward
<veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Yep, *DEFINITELY* ugly!!!
>>
>> How about THIS one?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
>
>
>
>I would like two, please.
One for each foot?
Greg Goss
>On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:37:02 -0800 (PST), rroger <raus...@aol.com>
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:58:12 -0800 (PST), rroger <raust...@aol.com>
>>> >> Erkel's car was a BMW Isetta.http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/bmwisetta250.html
>>>
>>> >> --
>>>
>>> >> Tim W
>>>
>>> >> Onomatopoeia
>>> >> A word that sounds like the sound it sounds like.
>>>
>>> >Yep, *DEFINITELY* ugly!!!
>>>
>>> How about THIS one?
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
>>
>>YUCK!!!!!!!!!!
>
>They don't make 'em much uglier, do they? (I want one!). Friend of
>mine had an NSU Prinz in college -- its reverse gear was long gone, so
>he just stuck his leg out and used it to back into wherever her was
>going.
I've seen both an Isetta and a Messerschmidt in person. the Mess
doesn't look nearly as ugly in person. The Isetta looks even more so.
--
apart from one noisy guy up in Canada, no-one wants
a three-cylinder tissue box on bicycle tires.
Observer
wrote:
Probably. I don't generally pay too much attention to vehicles. But
when I see that big ugly boxy thing, I read the name. Oh, the Element
is similarly unsavory.
__
Greg Goss
The larger SUVs seem to be going to "appliance" styling now too. I
saw an ugly Mercedes at a parking lot yesterday. I made a point of
looking at the model number, but I forget it now. It looked ugly like
a Ford Flex, only more so.
M. Shirley Chong
> How about THIS one?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
That falls into the category of "so ugly it's cute" for me. Kinda
like Bulldogs.
Shirley
Bob Ward
>>>> How about THIS one?
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
>>>
>>>YUCK!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>They don't make 'em much uglier, do they? (I want one!). Friend of
>>mine had an NSU Prinz in college -- its reverse gear was long gone, so
>>he just stuck his leg out and used it to back into wherever her was
>>going.
>
>I've seen both an Isetta and a Messerschmidt in person. the Mess
>doesn't look nearly as ugly in person. The Isetta looks even more so.
>--
I think this one is more appealing than the first...
http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit2
rroger
Still *YUCK*!!!!
Hactar
It's missing Cousin It.
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
TAURUS: You will never find true happiness - what you gonna
do, cry about it? The stars predict tomorrow you'll wake up,
do a bunch of stuff and then go back to sleep. -- Weird Al
rroger
> In article <pe8cf59b7hqjq1hnn6e169u6748au71...@4ax.com>,
> Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:41:19 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> > >>>> How about THIS one?
>
> > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
>
> > >>>YUCK!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > >>They don't make 'em much uglier, do they? (I want one!). Friend of
> > >>mine had an NSU Prinz in college -- its reverse gear was long gone, so
> > >>he just stuck his leg out and used it to back into wherever her was
> > >>going.
>
> > >I've seen both an Isetta and a Messerschmidt in person. the Mess
> > >doesn't look nearly as ugly in person. The Isetta looks even more so.
> > >--
> > I think this one is more appealing than the first...
> >http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit2
>
> It's missing Cousin It.
>
> --
> TAURUS: You will never find true happiness - what you gonna
> do, cry about it? The stars predict tomorrow you'll wake up,
> do a bunch of stuff and then go back to sleep. -- Weird Al
On an unrelated except that it has to do with cars bit, I think it
would be neat if Audi would come out with a new car and call it
"Innie".
DT
<b9a39909-5a81-4925...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
raus...@aol.com says...
>On an unrelated except that it has to do with cars bit, I think it
>would be neat if Audi would come out with a new car and call it
>"Innie".
Or the "Doodie".
--
Dennis
rroger
> In article
> <b9a39909-5a81-4925-bd97-9b3b06867...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> raust...@aol.com says...
>
> >On an unrelated except that it has to do with cars bit, I think it
> >would be neat if Audi would come out with a new car and call it
> >"Innie".
>
> Or the "Doodie".
>
> --
> Dennis
It's Audi doodie time, it's Audi doodie time....
Paul L. Madarasz
wrote, perhaps among other things:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:41:19 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
Bee-youtiful! When I become emperor, I'll hand one out to everybody
(the helmets are a real plus).
M C Hamster
>Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>>"normal".
>
Hmmm, we're thinkin' of gettng a Prius. Now I don't know. I wouldn't
want people thinking badly of me.
--
M C Hamster "Big Wheel Keep on Turnin'" -- Creedence Clearwater Revival
Snidely
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:40:10 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> >>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
> >>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
> >>"normal".
>
> Hmmm, we're thinkin' of gettng a Prius. Now I don't know. I wouldn't
> want people thinking badly of me.
A Prius may not be beautiful, but it has good bones and a certain
elegance of manner.
/dps
Boron Elgar
<davo...@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:40:10 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>>>I reached maturity (well, as far as I ever got) in the seventies, so
>>>many of the cars they call permanently ugly are what my eye sees as
>>>"normal".
>>
>
>
>Hmmm, we're thinkin' of gettng a Prius. Now I don't know. I wouldn't
>want people thinking badly of me.
We'd been thinking of getting one, too, but for what we'd use that
car, its lack of AWD/4WD, which I insist on up here in the hills, and
the almost absolute necessity of using the dealer for convenient
service (our local Toyota dealers are horse thieves and cattle
rustlers and probably drug dealers and pedophiles, too), make me think
not. It isn't wholly off the list, though.
I do love the car, and think it is quite roomy and lots of fun to
drive. If I could justify it as a 3rd car, for tootling around town in
most weather conditions, I'd grab one in a minute. Oh, and if I could
find a new Toyota dealer near by.
I really need something that will regularly propel me along at the
illegal 80 mph I prefer on the straight highway to work. Yeah, I know
it makes me a bad person.
Boron
Hactar
rroger <raus...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 11:43 pm, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
> > In article <pe8cf59b7hqjq1hnn6e169u6748au71...@4ax.com>,
> > Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:41:19 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> How about THIS one?
> >
> > > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit
> >
> > > >>>YUCK!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > > >>They don't make 'em much uglier, do they? (I want one!). Friend of
> > > >>mine had an NSU Prinz in college -- its reverse gear was long gone, so
> > > >>he just stuck his leg out and used it to back into wherever her was
> > > >>going.
> >
> > > >I've seen both an Isetta and a Messerschmidt in person. the Mess
> > > >doesn't look nearly as ugly in person. The Isetta looks even more so.
> > > >--
> > > I think this one is more appealing than the first...
> > >http://tinyurl.com/messerschmit2
> >
> > It's missing Cousin It.
>
> would be neat if Audi would come out with a new car and call it
> "Innie".
Or if Mercury/GM came out with a "de Sade" signature edition of the
"Marquis" (if that car hasn't been killed).
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
What do you do with dead chemists?
Barium. -- Harold_of_the_Rocks on Fark
Bob Ward
wrote:
I always got a kick out of the radio ads for the Mercury Mistake.
S. Checker
> In article <b9a39909-5a81-4925...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> "Marquis" (if that car hasn't been killed).
Why do I think the NHTSA would have a problem with studded seat belts
and a ball-gag airbag?
--
I was shocked by the language of Molly McAnailly Burke's piece on
lesbian rockers, and your allowing it in a family newspaper. The
offending phrase "five writhing beauties hot for each other" should be
"five writhing beauties hot for one another," since *each other* applies
only to two.
--Sean O'Brien, Rathfarnham
S. Checker
You've never heard of Wet-Wipes?
Agreed on the xB, it is very roomy. The xD on the other hand, I don't
fit in. I'm only 5'11" (foreign: 185 kilopascals) but my legs are too
long.
--
I knew, a split second after I posted that, that I'd gotten it
backwards...I just hoped nobody would notice.
-- Kay proves that she is actually from Bizarro Usenet
S. Checker
> The larger SUVs seem to be going to "appliance" styling now too. I
> saw an ugly Mercedes at a parking lot yesterday. I made a point of
> looking at the model number, but I forget it now. It looked ugly like
> a Ford Flex, only more so.
I'm betting GL, which was supposed to replace the originally-military
Gelandewagen. G-wagen owners took one look at the GL and said "forget
it" so Mercedes sells them both now.
--
I've all my wisdom teeth,
Two up top and two beneath
Hieronymus Agricola
(in article <2lkls6x...@fernon.pffcu.org>):
> my legs are too long.
>
When you stand up, your feet sink into the ground?
Hactar
S. Checker <spa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In alt.fan.cecil-adams Hactar <ebenZ...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > In article
> <b9a39909-5a81-4925...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > Or if Mercury/GM came out with a "de Sade" signature edition of the
> > "Marquis" (if that car hasn't been killed).
>
> Why do I think the NHTSA would have a problem with studded seat belts
> and a ball-gag airbag?
Some of those tank-like road vehicles have a half-vinyl roof, which
makes the transition looks like some kind of collar anyway.
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Erich
M C Hamster <davo...@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Hmmm, we're thinkin' of gettng a Prius. Now I don't know. I wouldn't
> want people thinking badly of me.
Some of the cars on that list were just plain ugly, but many were just
different. The author of the list didn't like the Prius because it
looked different. He has rather dogmatic ideas about what a car should
look like.
My suggestion is to ignore the list and buy a car that fits your needs.
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Erich
wrote:
> Some of those tank-like road vehicles have a half-vinyl roof, which
> makes the transition looks like some kind of collar anyway.
The vinyl roof was a rather strange automobile fashion. An extra cost
option giving look of a convertible minus the fun of open air driving.
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Erich
Snidely
> In article <26pls6-6nh....@pc.home>, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar)
> wrote:
>
> > Some of those tank-like road vehicles have a half-vinyl roof, which
> > makes the transition looks like some kind of collar anyway.
>
> The vinyl roof was a rather strange automobile fashion. An extra cost
> option giving look of a convertible minus the fun of open air driving.
And with all the joys of rips, tears, and peels.
/dps
Peter Ward
Mmmmm, Mrs Peel
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Snidely
> Snidely says...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 9, 9:00 am, Erich <oett...@qwest.net> wrote:
> > > In article <26pls6-6nh....@pc.home>, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar)
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Some of those tank-like road vehicles have a half-vinyl roof, which
> > > > makes the transition looks like some kind of collar anyway.
>
> > > The vinyl roof was a rather strange automobile fashion. An extra cost
> > > option giving look of a convertible minus the fun of open air driving.
>
> > And with all the joys of rips, tears, and peels.
>
> Mmmmm, Mrs Peelhttp://snurl.com/mrspeel
That option wasn't available from Detroit.
/dps
Hactar
Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Snidely says...
> >
> > On Nov 9, 9:00�am, Erich <oett...@qwest.net> wrote:
> > > In article <26pls6-6nh....@pc.home>, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Some of those tank-like road vehicles have a half-vinyl roof, which
> > > > makes the transition looks like some kind of collar anyway.
> > >
> > > The vinyl roof was a rather strange automobile fashion. �An extra cost
> > > option giving look of a convertible minus the fun of open air driving.
> >
> > And with all the joys of rips, tears, and peels.
>
> Mmmmm, Mrs Peel
> http://snurl.com/mrspeel
No, this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_P50
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