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Lesmond

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:42:20 PM6/17/13
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At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
each.

I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.

Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
with the weddings and babies and all.

Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?

--
If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.



Les Albert

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:52:25 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
<les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
>in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
>been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
>each.
>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
>with the weddings and babies and all.
>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?

Other people.

Les

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:56:12 PM6/17/13
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Are Other People Stupid Or Am I?

Group: alt.fan.cecil-adams Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013, 3:42pm From:
les...@verizon.net (Lesmond)
At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I
kept in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But
they have been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have
new babies, one each.
I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously,
what with the weddings and babies and all.
Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth
shut?

======================

Mentionin that you kept in contact was OK.

Perhaps, though, all you shoud have said was "they were doing fine"
without getting into details.
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Robert A. Heinlein--

BillTurlock

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:09:13 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
<les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?

No. But, fire your current neighbors.

BillTurlock

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:11:47 PM6/17/13
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I like my morning newspaper to report that the sun did, indeed rise
today

Gus

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:18:14 PM6/17/13
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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6...
In this case, other people.

I had a co-worker that was going on maternity leave and I mentioned to a
mutual friend, who had moved to another office and never saw her, that she
was going to be out for a few weeks so my office was going to be short a
person. He said is she having a baby? I said I can't say. He insisted
that I tell him. It was pretty obvious and he had already guessed. So I
said yes, but don't say I said anything she doesn't want anyone to know. So
of course, he immediately emails her and congratulates her.... She gets mad
and stops talking to me. Thing is she was always going on about how great
babies are, so why is she mad about people knowing she was having a baby?
It was pretty obvious. It's not like I said she had AIDS.

Lesmond

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:42:32 PM6/17/13
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Thank you, Bill.

Lesmond

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:44:55 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:56:12 -0400, Padraigh ProAmerica wrote:

>
>Are Other People Stupid Or Am I?
>
>Group: alt.fan.cecil-adams Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013, 3:42pm From:
>les...@verizon.net (Lesmond)
>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I
>kept in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But
>they have been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have
>new babies, one each.
>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously,
>what with the weddings and babies and all.
>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth
>shut?
>
>======================
>
>Mentionin that you kept in contact was OK.
>
>Perhaps, though, all you shoud have said was "they were doing fine"
>without getting into details.

Why?

Lesmond

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:50:59 PM6/17/13
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No, they're all ex-neighbors.

Joseph Nebus

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Jun 17, 2013, 6:51:00 PM6/17/13
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In <yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> writes:

>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
>in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
>been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
>each.

>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.

I'm curious who made the accusation: the person who asked you
about the ex-neighbors, the ex-neighbors, or someone who hasn't been
involved in the action before?


>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
>with the weddings and babies and all.

It doesn't seem gossippy to me if you share what you know to
a person who's asked; the term has, for me, connotations of spreading
information without it being sought, or spreading more than you were
asked for.


>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?

Couldn't say, but may I offer the Mael brothers' pretty good
thoughts about general stupidity, then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUZ2xtNm1L8&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

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Alan J Rosenthal

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:21:52 PM6/17/13
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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> writes:
>Subject: Are Other People Stupid Or Am I?

You say that as if they are mutually exclusive!

>they have been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have
>new babies, one each.
>
>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.

I guess whether this is gossip depends on how scandalous you think it is that
they are married, or have babies.

I don't think that that would normally be considered scandalous, because
more commonly it's women being _unmarried_ or _not_ having babies which
is considered scandalous. (By morons (in case it's not clear what my
viewpoint is on this).)

Sano

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Jun 18, 2013, 12:19:36 AM6/18/13
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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6:

> At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and
> whether I kept in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch
> with them. But they have been divorced for three years, have each
> remarried and have new babies, one each.
>
> I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>
> Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding,
> obviously, what with the weddings and babies and all.
>
> Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my
> mouth shut?

Gossiping? hahahahah

Lesmond

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:18:05 AM6/18/13
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Thanks, Les.

Lesmond

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:23:11 AM6/18/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:51:00 +0000 (UTC), Joseph Nebus wrote:

>In <yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> writes:
>
>>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
>>in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
>>been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
>>each.
>
>>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>
> I'm curious who made the accusation: the person who asked you
>about the ex-neighbors, the ex-neighbors, or someone who hasn't been
>involved in the action before?

Someone who overheard the conversation.

>
>
>>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
>>with the weddings and babies and all.
>
> It doesn't seem gossippy to me if you share what you know to
>a person who's asked; the term has, for me, connotations of spreading
>information without it being sought, or spreading more than you were
>asked for.
>

Yes, or passing along unconfirmed rumors.

>
>>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?
>
> Couldn't say, but may I offer the Mael brothers' pretty good
>thoughts about general stupidity, then:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUZ2xtNm1L8&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

Ahhh. Perfect. Ron and Russell for the win.

Lesmond

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:21:05 AM6/18/13
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On 18 Jun 2013 01:21:52 GMT, Alan J Rosenthal wrote:

>"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> writes:
>>Subject: Are Other People Stupid Or Am I?
>
>You say that as if they are mutually exclusive!

Yes, I have long embraced my stupidity in an attempt to keep it at bay.

>
>>they have been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have
>>new babies, one each.
>>
>>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>
>I guess whether this is gossip depends on how scandalous you think it is that
>they are married, or have babies.
>
>I don't think that that would normally be considered scandalous, because
>more commonly it's women being _unmarried_ or _not_ having babies which
>is considered scandalous. (By morons (in case it's not clear what my
>viewpoint is on this).)

Even if no one was married I wouldn't consider it scandalous.

And I did tell one of the ex-neighbors about it because I felt bad. She
laughed at me and said, "WHAT!? After all these years people still care?"

Heather

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:51:30 AM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:18:05 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
<les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:52:25 -0700, Les Albert wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
>><les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
>>>in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
>>>been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
>>>each.
>>>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>>>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
>>>with the weddings and babies and all.
>>>Neither of them live in this town any longer. Should I keep my mouth shut?
>>
>>Other people.
>
>Thanks, Les.


I agree with Les on this issue. Gossip implies something scandalous
and what you said was common knowledge with no hint of scandal.


--
Heather

M C Hamster

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Jun 18, 2013, 11:25:10 AM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:23:11 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
<les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:51:00 +0000 (UTC), Joseph Nebus wrote:
>
>>In <yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>>At a get together, someone asked me about my ex-neighbors and whether I kept
>>>in touch with them. I do, in fact, keep in touch with them. But they have
>>>been divorced for three years, have each remarried and have new babies, one
>>>each.
>>
>>>I was accused of gossiping for imparting this information.
>>
>> I'm curious who made the accusation: the person who asked you
>>about the ex-neighbors, the ex-neighbors, or someone who hasn't been
>>involved in the action before?
>
>Someone who overheard the conversation.
>
>>
>>
>>>Is this "gossip"? It's simple facts that no one is hiding, obviously, what
>>>with the weddings and babies and all.
>>
>> It doesn't seem gossippy to me if you share what you know to
>>a person who's asked; the term has, for me, connotations of spreading
>>information without it being sought, or spreading more than you were
>>asked for.
>>
>
>Yes, or passing along unconfirmed rumors.
>

I would start thinking up some good rumors about the person who
overheard the conversation. We can help you with those if you wish.
--

"Big Wheel Keep on Turnin'" -- Creedence Clearwater Revival

Lesmond

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Jun 18, 2013, 3:51:36 PM6/18/13
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And there were newspaper announcements and stuff, too.

David J. Martin

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Jun 18, 2013, 5:50:29 PM6/18/13
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My thought was that perhaps it was the talk of divorce that led to the
charge of gossiping.

If that's the case, it is stupid, but it's the only thing slightly
scandalous in what you said.

David

Les Albert

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Jun 18, 2013, 6:47:16 PM6/18/13
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Divorce is no longer scandalous.

"More recently, having spoken with academics and National Survey of
Family Growth representatives, PolitiFact.com estimated in 2012 that
the lifelong probability of a marriage ending in divorce is 40%–50%."
- http://tinyurl.com/ldl48hc

Les


Lesmond

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Jun 19, 2013, 12:05:05 PM6/19/13
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This is why I try not to talk to people in this town.

John Mc.

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:15:13 AM6/20/13
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I have it easy, my nearest neighbor is over half a mile away, our lane
is 1/3 mile long and there's NO SPARE parking or place to turn around.
(That's a conscious decision on our part.) We had "problems" years ago
with folk who (chose one): made a wrong turn, wondered what was back
here, thought the road went through or wanted to talk to us about
Christ..... ) So I made it impossible to park/turn around without going
down the VERY steep hill behind the house to an old barn. Now if I know
you're going to visit I can make room. Otherwise, if you come down my
lane you're stuck dealing with me to get out.

John Mc.
(I don't get many visitors anymore)

Lesmond

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Jun 20, 2013, 3:01:47 AM6/20/13
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I like your style. Unfortunately I live in the middle of town. Have a huge
privacy hedge and a really nice backyard, though. And yeah, people have
wandered onto my property just to "see what was behind the hedge". Morons.

John Mc.

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Jun 20, 2013, 3:42:01 AM6/20/13
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It's not that they wander in but do they wander out?

John Mc.
( I have plenty of Chianti)

Lesmond

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Jun 20, 2013, 4:37:49 AM6/20/13
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They usually run. It's ridiculous how many folks think nothing of casual
trespassing until they know they're observed. My trespassing is always
deliberate. And I'm ready to explain it to the homeowners or cops.

Tim Wright

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Jun 20, 2013, 9:56:58 AM6/20/13
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I'm sure the signs with the skull and crossbones and the "We don't call
911" have nothing to do with it.


--
Chickens: Tasty animals you eat before they are born and after they are
dead.
Tim W

Les Albert

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Jun 20, 2013, 11:31:01 AM6/20/13
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:42:01 -0400, "John Mc." <jo...@tdcogre.com>
wrote:

>John Mc.
>( I have plenty of Chianti)


Any other kind of wine?

Les


Tim Wright

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Jun 20, 2013, 11:39:20 AM6/20/13
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No, but a good supply of fava beans.

Les Albert

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:27:34 PM6/20/13
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Tim Wright <tlwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 6/20/2013 10:31 AM, Les Albert wrote:
>> "John Mc." <jo...@tdcogre.com> wrote:

>>> John Mc.
>>> ( I have plenty of Chianti)

>> Any other kind of wine?

>No, but a good supply of fava beans.



Hannibal Lecter is a truly scary role model, but I always suspected
him of having very poor taste because the only reason he drank Chianti
was to save the straw covered Chianti bottles to make lamps out of
them, like this: http://tinyurl.com/kmgwu53

Les

Stanley Daniel de Liver

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Jun 20, 2013, 2:33:45 PM6/20/13
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I imagine that the lampshade was recycled material as well.

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It's a money /life balance.

Les Albert

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Jun 20, 2013, 2:44:42 PM6/20/13
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There are no limits to bad taste.

Les

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