Calling on the Collective Wisdom of AFCA
Karen AKA Kajikit
and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself to commit to
that big an expense! (I don't want to buy a lemon...) I've just been
using a broom and dustpan... So I call upon the collective wisdom of
AFCA to help me decide...
Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
Help!
Veronique
Miele vacuum. They work, you can choose a variety of options, they
don't suck dirt through the engine...I have two cats and wood floors
and //puke// wall-to-wall in the bedroom, and my Miele works with
fabulously with all of them. Mieles are more expensive than other
brands, though...mine was about $600 several years ago.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Sano
news:34otd3tjualnm32lc...@4ax.com:
FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired buddy
of mine got it off a tree lawn. I spent perhaps 3 hours tearing it
apart and putting it back together, cleaning the motor armature.
$50 of parts: new bags, it had been converted to use filter bags, a new
cord, and a couple of belts. Oh, new beater bar as well. I might add
that Kirby corporate, answered my questions about the carpet mower,
first try, over the phone. I couldn't identify the exact model. There
are actually only about 4 variations.
The same buddy has found full boxes of accessories. Hose, crevice and
brush tools, carpet+ furniture shampoo spotter. Same place, the tree
lawn.
I've had a few of the plastic, screaming pieces of modern, overpriced
junk. Not new mind you, tree lawn stuff, that I salvaged and
repaired from others. IMO $200-300 buys one of those machines that will
give great service for around 2 years. Then you throw it away.
John Dean
We have a Dyson and it's brilliant. It's lasted longer than the cats (though
they were teenagers when we got it so THAT's not surprising) but while they
were around it dealt swift justice to their sheddings.
--
John Dean
Oxford
Mary
Just to skew the data: I have a $200 vacuum (Dirt Devil? Something
like that. I bought it at Target about ten years ago.) that did very
well when it was new and then gradually got less effective, and
finally the ratchet thingy that lets you release the handle from the
fully upright position failed and the vacuum fell down the stairs onto
me and I said, THAT IS THAT and I had a new vacuum all picked out
based on online browsing. I was going to get a Miele based on
Veronique's comments in another forum, and even found a local store
where I could buy it.
Then my husband took apart the old Dirt Devil, did a couple of things
to its innards and it's working just like new again and picks up the
cat hair like a champ.
I was sort of bummed about not having a reason to buy a new one, but
honestly, now that it's working again it's like new and works great.
Of course, YMMV if you don't have a husband who can fix stuff.
Mary
Boron Elgar
I have a 30+ year old Eureka upright and a 40+ year old Electrolux
canister. They both work very, very well, although I am pretty sure
you can't go out and buy the either model. Damn shame as they are
workhorses.
I dread having to go out and buy a new vac, because I fear nothing
will live up to the ancient ones I have. Their only drawback is
weight, but that is usually no problem.
I have a tiny Dirt Devil hand vac that is maybe 15 years old. That is
great on stairs.
Boron
Walter Traprock
> Mama gave me $500 for Christmas/my birthday to buy a vacuum cleaner
> and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself to commit to
> that big an expense!
What's next, money to buy a dishwasher?
> (I don't want to buy a lemon...) I've just been
> using a broom and dustpan... So I call upon the collective wisdom of
> AFCA to help me decide...
>
> Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
> Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...)
I've got the cheapest Dyson, which isn't cheap, and it is cool, except
the cord gets in the way.
> How well does
> your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
> hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
> with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
> continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
It works if you work it.
Les Albert
>Mama gave me $500 for Christmas/my birthday to buy a vacuum cleaner
> and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself to commit to
> that big an expense! (I don't want to buy a lemon...) I've just been
> using a broom and dustpan... So I call upon the collective wisdom of
> AFCA to help me decide...
You should always do what your mama wants you to do. And you should
go here and start reading:
http://www99.epinions.com/Vacuums--~all/adv_search_~1
Les
Mike Muth
news:1189013528.6...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
I have a couple of Hoover vacuum cleaners which work just fine. They're
a bit heavy for the size house we have, so I got the wife an Oreck. She
really likes it. We got a small hand held Oreck (with a shoulder strap)
for the stairs and nooks & crannies.
Last week, she complained that the floor model wasn't picking up the
dirt. I checked and it was just a broken belt. Fortunately, the Oreck
ships with a spare belt in a special compartment on the bottom. Ten
minutes and it was like new.
I still use one of the old Hoovers when I vacuum, if only because they
still work fine (one is 20 years old) and I hate to throw out something
which does a good job.
--
Mike
Dover Beach
news:34otd3tjualnm32lc...@4ax.com:
From Consumer Reports:
Best uprights for most tasks:
• Eureka Boss Smart Vac Ultra 4870 , $150, CR Best Buy
• Hoover WindTunnel Bagless U5753-900 , $160
• Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 36932 , $300
• Hoover WindTunnel 2 U8311-900 , $250
• Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 35922 , $300, CR
Best Buy
The Kenmore 35922 offers the best blend of performance and features. The
Eureka offers the best value, while the Hoovers offer easier pushing and
pulling.
Less weight and lower cost:
• Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 , $60, CR Best Buy
• Hoover EmPower U5262-910 , $100
• Hoover WindTunnel Supreme U5458-900 , $130
All three are well under 20 pounds. Choose the Tempo Widepath or
WindTunnel Supreme for superb carpet cleaning. If you prefer a bagless
vac, go with the EmPower.
--
Dover
Opus the Penguin
> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn.
What is a "tree lawn"? Why would one find a vacuum cleaner there?
--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
Les Albert
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sano (m...@privacy.net.dingg) wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
>> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn.
>What is a "tree lawn"? Why would one find a vacuum cleaner there?
Tree lawns are old traditions from the days of the early English
settlers in the U.S. They are hardly seen anymore except in some New
England towns. Instead of an expanse of grass, miniature trees that
are no more than two feet tall fully grown, are planted 3 feet from
each other. During the Fall, when the leaves fell, the early settlers
had servants to pick up the leaves. Today the owners of tree lawns
use a vacuum cleaner. It is sort of wretched excess, but it is in
keeping with the American way of penny stocks and herbal viagra.
Les
Boron Elgar
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sano (m...@privacy.net.dingg) wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
>> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn.
>
>What is a "tree lawn"? Why would one find a vacuum cleaner there?
Trelawny of the Wells.... Pondian difference in spelling, old chap.
Lots of Hoovers in wells in the UK.
Cheerio, pip, pip.
Boron
Karen AKA Kajikit
wrote:
I told her to tell me exactly which kind/model she wanted me to buy -
and she wouldn't!
Blinky the Shark
> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired buddy
> of mine got it off a tree lawn. I spent perhaps 3 hours tearing it
"Tree lawn" sent me to Google. It sounded vaguely Brit or something.
Wiki doesn't regionalize it, though. I'd sure never heard of it.
--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28
Sano
news:Xns99A28315589E4op...@127.0.0.1:
> Sano (m...@privacy.net.dingg) wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
>> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn.
>
> What is a "tree lawn"? Why would one find a vacuum cleaner there?
As you may have guessed, it's where the trash gets set out on 'trash
day'. By the curb.
Les Albert
Maybe she just wants you to have a good time with the money, and do
whatever you want with it.
Les
Karen AKA Kajikit
wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:37:23 -0400, Karen AKA Kajikit
><kaj...@jagcon.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:55:26 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>>On Sep 5, 10:03 am, Karen AKA Kajikit <kaji...@jagcon.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Mama gave me $500 for Christmas/my birthday to buy a vacuum cleaner
>>>> and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself to commit to
>>>> that big an expense! (I don't want to buy a lemon...) I've just been
>>>> using a broom and dustpan... So I call upon the collective wisdom of
>>>> AFCA to help me decide...
>
>>>You should always do what your mama wants you to do. And you should
>>>go here and start reading:
>>>http://www99.epinions.com/Vacuums--~all/adv_search_~1
>
>>I told her to tell me exactly which kind/model she wanted me to buy -
>>and she wouldn't!
>
>
>Maybe she just wants you to have a good time with the money, and do
>whatever you want with it.
Yeah sure... NOT! lol She's given me money before with no strings
attached - this was for a vacuum-cleaner... not a vacuum and other
stuff. And I'm sure that when she sees this thread she'll put her two
cents in (hear that mama, tell me what you think!)
Les Albert
<kaj...@jagcon.com> wrote:
I really think the epinion web site has useful information for you.
Les
Karen AKA Kajikit
wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:15:48 -0400, Karen AKA Kajikit
><kaj...@jagcon.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:58:38 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>You should always do what your mama wants you to do. And you should
>>>>>go here and start reading:
>>>>>http://www99.epinions.com/Vacuums--~all/adv_search_~1
>>>
>>>>I told her to tell me exactly which kind/model she wanted me to buy -
>>>>and she wouldn't!
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe she just wants you to have a good time with the money, and do
>>>whatever you want with it.
>>
>>Yeah sure... NOT! lol She's given me money before with no strings
>>attached - this was for a vacuum-cleaner... not a vacuum and other
>>stuff. And I'm sure that when she sees this thread she'll put her two
>>cents in (hear that mama, tell me what you think!)
>
>
>I really think the epinion web site has useful information for you.
Alas it didn't want to load... I'll try again later.
Sano
news:slrnfdttvq....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
> Sano wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
>> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn. I spent perhaps 3 hours
>> tearing it
>
> "Tree lawn" sent me to Google. It sounded vaguely Brit or
> something. Wiki doesn't regionalize it, though. I'd sure never
> heard of it.
I'm glad I didn't use "devil's strip". <;) I've always thought of it
as the public piece at the street edge of a property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_lawn
I think everyone would know what I was talking about around Cleveland,
Oh.
Karen AKA Kajikit
wrote:
Actually it did! It worked this time, and led me to Amazon, which had
one of the Animal cleaners on a really good special... so I bought it.
Now I just have to hope that it works as advertised on our floors!
Jim Prescott
>Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
>your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
>hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
>with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
>continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
I like my Roomba Discovery. We use it mainly on carpet but it works on
tile too. Picks up hair fine; it gets tangled around the brushes but
the brushes are designed to be easy to remove and clean. I just have
the regular brushes though I guess they now have some pet specific
brushes that are even easier to clean.
It works best if you keep a neat house. Then you can just have it
vacuum every day while you work or sleep with just a couple minutes of
your time to clean it. All but the oldest models can return to their
battery charger automatically after vacuuming and some of the newer
ones can be programmed to run at specific times.
http://www.roombareview.com/buy/roomba/ tracks the best prices.
--
Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group j...@seas.rochester.edu
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY
Alan Hoyle
I sure like my Roomba Discovery Scheduler (they came out with newer
models last month). It may take longer to do a room, but you don't
have to do anything except push a button to make it start and empty
the bin when it's done. It doesn't do everything, and you still need
to deal with cords and crevices, so it won't completely replace a
regular Vac. The more expensive Roomba models can also be set up to
start automatically at a designated time and run while you're away.
With $500, you could get a high-end Roomba and one of the Consumer
Reports "Quick Picks" [*] and have the advantages of all worlds.
-alan
[*] Here are the Consumer Reports sub-$200 "Quick Picks":
Eureka Boss Smart Vac Ultra 4870 , $150, CR Best Buy
Hoover WindTunnel Bagless U5753-900 , $160
Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900 , $60, CR Best Buy
Hoover EmPower U5262-910 , $100
Hoover WindTunnel Supreme U5458-900 , $130
The first two are more general purpose ones, and latter three are
lighter duty, lower weight, and less expensive.
--
Alan Hoyle - al...@unc.edu - http://www.alanhoyle.com/
"I don't want the world, I just want your half." -TMBG
Get Horizontal, Play Ultimate.
Dhubghall
We have a Dyson animal (not sure what number it is but it's 2-3 years
old). It works very very well at picking up pet hair. Our two pups have
pretty disparate hair types and this thing works well to pick up both
along with our hair pretty well. Our model has an annoying wand
attachment setup but that was fixed pretty nicely in the next years
model, much to our annoyance.
Anyway we really like it.
Dougall
Blinky the Shark
> - Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> - wrote in
> news:slrnfdttvq....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
>
>> Sano wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I have a 35 year old Kirby. A significantly older, retired
>>> buddy of mine got it off a tree lawn. I spent perhaps 3 hours
>>> tearing it
>>
>> "Tree lawn" sent me to Google. It sounded vaguely Brit or something.
>> Wiki doesn't regionalize it, though. I'd sure never heard of it.
>
> I'm glad I didn't use "devil's strip". <;) I've always thought of it
> as the public piece at the street edge of a property.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_lawn
That's what I ended up reading. :)
> I think everyone would know what I was talking about around Cleveland,
Well, I spent my first 34 years around the corner of the lake from you
in Michigan. As for "around Cleveland" I don't think there's exactly a
large AFCA contingent who's lived there. TWIAVBP
I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
someplace else. ;)
Blinky the Shark
> I think everyone would know what I was talking about around Cleveland,
> Oh.
Want me to add you here?
http://blinkynet.net/odds/afcaloc.html
Bob Ward
It's called a "parkway" in the real world.
Snidely
[...]
> I have a couple of Hoover vacuum cleaners which work just fine. They're
> a bit heavy for the size house we have, so I got the wife an Oreck. She
> really likes it. We got a small hand held Oreck (with a shoulder strap)
> for the stairs and nooks & crannies.
I had an Oreck once upon a time, and thought it was great! Then I got
married, and that caused the Oreck to be replaced by a Rainbow.
Rainbow's were great, until someone forgets to empty the pan before
storing the vacuum.
> Last week, she complained that the floor model wasn't picking up the
> dirt. I checked and it was just a broken belt. Fortunately, the Oreck
> ships with a spare belt in a special compartment on the bottom. Ten
> minutes and it was like new.
I think I did ding up the plasic handle of my Oreck. That was in the
days when Leona Helmsley's husbnad was still alive (but didn't appear
in the Oreck ads), and the baby Orecks came later, so I'm interested
in the usage reports.
/dps
Snidely
[...]
> I have a 30+ year old Eureka upright and a 40+ year old Electrolux
> canister. They both work very, very well, although I am pretty sure
> you can't go out and buy the either model. Damn shame as they are
> workhorses.
My mother's Electrolux canister lasted at least 15 years. I think
they stopped making the bags before it completely died, though. And
it may have been the springs in the bag ejector that died, rather than
the motor.
This was one of the "praying mantis" canisters with runners (early
'50s models didn't NEED wheels), the cord retactor making the head,
and the hose being a tail -- but yank too hard, and you might eject
the bag. It also made a great horse while my legs were toddler-size.
/dps
Boron Elgar
wrote:
Sounds like the model I have in the closet not more than 5 feet from
where I sit.
I hope they still make the bags. I bought a bunch of them on eBay at
some point, but they won't last forever. This model does not have the
power nozzle, either.
Boron
Sano
> Sano wrote:
>
>> I think everyone would know what I was talking about around
>> Cleveland, Oh.
>
> Want me to add you here?
>
> http://blinkynet.net/odds/afcaloc.html
>
Sure Blinky. It's pretty close.
One of these days I'll go looking for your manatee. ;)
Sano
news:dpdud35v3no79b7hu...@4ax.com:
I'd consider a parkway a roadway of some sort, preferably for auto
traffic.
Mark Brader
>> I'm glad I didn't use "devil's strip"....
> It's called a "parkway" ...
Ahem: http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwhatdo.html
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "You can write a small letter to Grandma
m...@vex.net | in the filename." -- Forbes Burkowski
Heather
The only specification is that it has HEPA filtration because of your
asthma/hay fever.
Heather
So what vacuum cleaner did you end up buying and how much did it cost?
--
Heather
Heather
wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:28:27 -0000, Sano <m...@privacy.net.dingg> wrote:
>
>>- Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> - wrote in
>>news:slrnfdttvq....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
>>
>>> "Tree lawn" sent me to Google. It sounded vaguely Brit or
>>> something. Wiki doesn't regionalize it, though. I'd sure never
>>> heard of it.
>>
>>I'm glad I didn't use "devil's strip". <;) I've always thought of it
>>as the public piece at the street edge of a property.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_lawn
>>
>>I think everyone would know what I was talking about around Cleveland,
>>Oh.
>
>It's called a "parkway" in the real world.
You are wrong. It is actually the nature strip.
--
Heather
Charles Wm. Dimmick
> Mama gave me $500 for Christmas/my birthday to buy a vacuum cleaner
> and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself to commit to
> that big an expense! (I don't want to buy a lemon...) I've just been
> using a broom and dustpan... So I call upon the collective wisdom of
> AFCA to help me decide...
>
> Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
> your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
> hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
> with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
> continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
>
emptied. And $500 is far too much to pay for a vacuum
cleaner. Get three smaller ones instead: one for upstairs,
one for downstairs, and one that is of the dust-buster
type for small portable jobs. We are quite happy with our
Shark bagless for major jobs and a Kartin cordless DustBuster
for quick jobs.
charles
Blinky the Shark
> - Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> - wrote in
> news:slrnfdub15....@thurston.blinkynet.net:
>
>> Sano wrote:
>>
>>> I think everyone would know what I was talking about around
>>> Cleveland, Oh.
>>
>> Want me to add you here?
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/odds/afcaloc.html
>
> Sure Blinky. It's pretty close.
Done. If you actually claim another town, spill it and I'll change the
listing.
> One of these days I'll go looking for your manatee. ;)
Ah! Shibboleth and his daughter Shibbolette.
http://blinkynet.net/stuff/shibboleth.jpg
groo
> Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
> Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
> your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
> hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
> with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
> continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
>
We have a Dyson, but not the Animal (although we have 2 cats, both of which
shed hair like a Republican President spends money). I think ours is the
"All Floors". It does a great job. I'd recommend that whatever you get, get
a bagless model. Very handy.
--
"There are situations in which it's just time for a change of
buffoonery." - Kevin O'Neill
Veronique
I paid about $600 for my Miele and it's a work of art. Vacuums
effectively too, and doesn't break. I had some kind of upright Hoover
before it, which was adequate but not great. And it broke.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Bill Turlock
Any decent Goodwill or Sally has 'em for < $50, usually much
less. In good shape.
Charles Wm. Dimmick
In New Orleans that was often referred to as a "bankette".
chjarles
HVS
> Mama gave me $500 for Christmas/my birthday to buy a vacuum
> cleaner and we haven't spent it yet because I can't bring myself
> to commit to that big an expense! (I don't want to buy a
> lemon...) I've just been using a broom and dustpan... So I call
> upon the collective wisdom of AFCA to help me decide...
>
> Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
> Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well
> does your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur
> and long hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a
> tiled apartment with three shedding cats, one long-haired human,
> and one continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
>
> Help!
We have a Sebo cylinder machine; I don't know if they're sold in the
US, but they come out well in tests (Good Housekeeping, etc.)
We bought ours about 5 years ago; excellent machine:
http://www.sebo.co.uk/Pages/k1airbelt.html
--
Cheers,
Harvey
Paul L. Madarasz
wrote, perhaps among other things:
>I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
>someplace else. ;)
They've got a killer art museum, though.
--
"How 'bout cuttin' that rebop?"
-- S. Kowalski
Mike Muth
Other than the broken belt (which took 10 minutes and a screwdriver to
replace), we've had no problems with our Orecks over the last couple of
years. They get frequent usage. Well, the little one less so. The
upright gets used on about 2500 sq feet two or three times a week. The
carpet used to be pile, but we replaced it with a Berber carpet. The
upright worked fine on both of them.
They were a bit pricey, but so far have delivered good value.
--
Mike
Boron Elgar
<madp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 5 Sep 2007 22:19:50 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid>
>wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
>
>>I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
>>someplace else. ;)
>
>They've got a killer art museum, though.
And the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Boron
Neal Eckhardt
>Karen AKA Kajikit <kaj...@jagcon.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
>> Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
>> your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
>> hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
>> with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
>> continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
>>
>
>We have a Dyson, but not the Animal (although we have 2 cats, both of which
>shed hair like a Republican President spends money). I think ours is the
>"All Floors". It does a great job. I'd recommend that whatever you get, get
>a bagless model. Very handy.
>
Isn't it proven that bag vacuum cleaners do better than bagless?
Neal
Sano
news:lp20e3lopgndd3tg6...@4ax.com:
> On 5 Sep 2007 22:19:50 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid>
> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
>
>>I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
>>someplace else. ;)
>
> They've got a killer art museum, though.
Yup. I only wish the GD thing was open. They've been reno-whatevering
the entire building. It's a 2 year project that should be winding down
soon. I've sort of lost touch with the place.
The beauty of the museum is that it's perhaps the only world class
museum that's still free. And they had(have) 2 days of the week where
they're open til 9PM. They have paid admission events, as well, and
have run those during the upgrading. And they've had off-site shows of
bits of their collection but I haven't done any of them.
I've also been fortunate enough to be shown several storage rooms, for
paintings anyway. Also a small tour of some of their painting
conservation area.
Boron Elgar
>- Paul L. Madarasz <madp...@yahoo.com> - wrote in
>news:lp20e3lopgndd3tg6...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 5 Sep 2007 22:19:50 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid>
>> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>
>>
>>>I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
>>>someplace else. ;)
>>
>> They've got a killer art museum, though.
>
>Yup. I only wish the GD thing was open. They've been reno-whatevering
>the entire building. It's a 2 year project that should be winding down
>soon. I've sort of lost touch with the place.
>
>The beauty of the museum is that it's perhaps the only world class
>museum that's still free. And they had(have) 2 days of the week where
>they're open til 9PM.
The Metropolitan Museum of Art has a "suggested" donation/admission,
but you needn't shell out at all..... And they have 2 late nights,
also.
>They have paid admission events, as well, and
>have run those during the upgrading. And they've had off-site shows of
>bits of their collection but I haven't done any of them.
>
>I've also been fortunate enough to be shown several storage rooms, for
>paintings anyway. Also a small tour of some of their painting
>conservation area.
I had a friend who working in textile conservation at the Met and I
loved to get to wander around behind the scenes when she got me in.
Boron
Sano
news:tp60e3p00jka4l6dt...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:00:33 -0000, Sano <m...@privacy.net.dingg>
> wrote:
>
>>- Paul L. Madarasz <madp...@yahoo.com> - wrote in
>>news:lp20e3lopgndd3tg6...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 5 Sep 2007 22:19:50 GMT, Blinky the Shark
>>> <no....@box.invalid> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I did drive through Cleveland a few years ago. I was on my way
>>>>someplace else. ;)
>>>
>>> They've got a killer art museum, though.
>>
>>Yup. I only wish the GD thing was open. They've been
>>reno-whatevering the entire building. It's a 2 year project that
>>should be winding down soon. I've sort of lost touch with the
>>place.
>>
>>The beauty of the museum is that it's perhaps the only world class
>>museum that's still free. And they had(have) 2 days of the week
>>where they're open til 9PM.
>
>
> The Metropolitan Museum of Art has a "suggested"
> donation/admission, but you needn't shell out at all..... And they
> have 2 late nights, also.
Ah. Thanks. I've never had the pleasure.
Twenty-some years ago I accompanied a gf to D.C. for her job. Wandered
through alot of the Smithsonian. What was open due to "budgetary
shortages" at the time. ;)
>>They have paid admission events, as well, and
>>have run those during the upgrading. And they've had off-site
>>shows of bits of their collection but I haven't done any of them.
>>
>>I've also been fortunate enough to be shown several storage rooms,
>>for paintings anyway. Also a small tour of some of their painting
>>conservation area.
>
>
> I had a friend who working in textile conservation at the Met and
> I loved to get to wander around behind the scenes when she got me
> in.
I lived in Clev. Hts. for a while and struck up a friendship with the
fellow, in my building. He either headed their paint cons. (CMAs) or
was the 2nd in charge. He moved on to the Smithsonian soon after. I
tried to look him up but couldn't remember his name.
Peter Ward
If so, is that just with a new bag <cue James Brown>?
--
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Peter Ward
Yet "fame" is such a poor criterion for admission to a place which is
supposed to celebrate such music. Some of the recent "inductees" have
been pretty unremarkable, I seem to recall. So unremarkable, in fact,
that I can't remember who, exactly, I'd like to rail against. Never
mind, they were famous enough that I'd heard of them.
HVS
> The beauty of the museum is that it's perhaps the only world
> class museum that's still free.
"The only world class museum" where?
I assume there's an assumed geographical restriction in there -- or
doesn't the British Museum (and the other national museums in the UK)
count as "world class" any more?
--
Cheers,
Harvey
Peter Ward
>In article <34otd3tjualnm32lc...@4ax.com>,
>Karen AKA Kajikit <kaj...@jagcon.com> wrote:
>>Are you happy with your vacuum cleaner? Does anyone have a Dyson
>>Animal (I'm tempted by that but I want to be sure...) How well does
>>your vacuum work on tiles? How well does it pick up cat fur and long
>>hair? And what vacuum do you think I should get for a tiled apartment
>>with three shedding cats, one long-haired human, and one
>>continually-shedding human (DH has psoriasis...)
>
>I like my Roomba Discovery. We use it mainly on carpet but it works on
>tile too. Picks up hair fine; it gets tangled around the brushes but
>the brushes are designed to be easy to remove and clean. I just have
>the regular brushes though I guess they now have some pet specific
>brushes that are even easier to clean.
My pets won't go near a vacuum cleaner.
>It works best if you keep a neat house.
Well, that's the flaw, you see. No need to read further.
groo
> Isn't it proven that bag vacuum cleaners do better than bagless?
>
I've never heard that. Even if true, I'd prefer to run the bagless model
over the floor a few extra times to avoid having to deal with the stupid
bags.
--
"I'm thinking the formerly dead lady next door is soon to be dead again." -
Kim on afca
Jim Prescott
Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>On 5 Sep 2007 15:48:58 -0400, Jim Prescott wrote:
>>I like my Roomba Discovery. We use it mainly on carpet but it works on
>>tile too. Picks up hair fine; it gets tangled around the brushes but
>>the brushes are designed to be easy to remove and clean. I just have
>>the regular brushes though I guess they now have some pet specific
>>brushes that are even easier to clean.
>My pets won't go near a vacuum cleaner.
Understandable with a regular vacuum cleaner but with some training they
would probably be able to operate the Roomba; it just involves pressing
two largish buttons in sequence.
But seriously, Roomba only does floors; it has no hose attachments for
crevices, curtains or pets. The Pet specific Roombas are just less
likely to get pet hair stuck in inconvenient locations.
>>It works best if you keep a neat house.
>Well, that's the flaw, you see. No need to read further.
Actually I don't keep a neat house either. Roomba still works, it just
isn't as convenient. Prior to any vacuuming you need to find the floor
and get it ready for vacuuming. In a neat house this might talk only a
few seconds, or be completely skipable. In my house this will likely
take longer than the actual vacuuming. With Roomba the prep phase has
to be even more thorough since you can't just say "well I just won't
vacuum near that pile of stuff" or "I'll just pick up that cord and
vacuum under it".
If I never had to worry that there might be something on the floor that
might cause Roomba problems I might run it every day. But I wouldn't
use a manual vacuum daily no matter how clutter free my floor was.
--
Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group j...@seas.rochester.edu
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY
bill van
Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
That's what the people at the mom and pop vacuum cleaner and repair shop
told me. I ended up with a Samsung canister, which they assured me was
more dependable than comparable but more expensive units like Hoovers. I
paid about $350 Cdn, had it for a year, and so far it works like a
charm. After many years with an upright (Eureka), I'm happy as hell with
attachments that get into dusty corners and between couch cushions.
bill
Heather
Certainly not in my experience. I must admit that the only bag vacuum
cleaner I have had was a Hoover, and it was altogether a piece of
crap. The bag let so much of the fine dust through that it left me
coughing for hours. In fact it was no better than sweeping from that
point of view.
In almost forty years I have had four vacuum cleaners and three of
them were excellent. The first was a National (they later became
Panasonic) bagless canister model which had an excellent washable
filter, the next was an upright bagless Panasonic with the same type
of filter, the third was the aforementioned Hoover POS (simply because
I couldn't find a Panasonic like my previous ones) and the latest is
the Dyson DC03.
For ease of use you couldn't beat the National/Panasonic models, but
the Dyson probably has a bit more suction, even better filtrattion and
is simple to empty without breathing in any dust..
--
Heather
Sano
news:Xns99A3B2D4...@news.albasani.net:
Sorry about that. I'll work on it. It's one of few that I knew to be
no-charge in the the United States of America. I'm not an art buff of
any kind, I just like to look at things of beauty. I can stare for as
long as I want.
Opus the Penguin
So, hypothetically, if you had a daughter, what kind of vacuum
cleaner would you advise her to get?
--
Opus the Penguin
"It's just a sneaky way to make sure everyone reads all your posts,
just to see if they get quoted." - Bill Kinkaid
groo
One that doesn't suck.
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No, wait....
S. Checker
> Want me to add you here?
>
> http://blinkynet.net/odds/afcaloc.html
>
I'm curious why you've never added me. Is it because I once used Google
Groups? I was young, and curious.
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of this one post always over your shoulder. Forever and ever. Never
again will you be able to tell someone they are wrong - because you were
wrong once. -- Kim explains afca etiquette.
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Want me to add you here?
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/odds/afcaloc.html
>>
>
> I'm curious why you've never added me. Is it because I once used Google
> Groups? I was young, and curious.
There is at least one Google Groper in that list.
What information did you give me? Were you the one that submitted
something stupid like Mars?
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wrote:
> Google Groper
Every time I read that I wonder about the psychology of affiliative
frottage.
nj"purely intellectually, I mean"
--
"Ellington? I tell you paltry white woman problems with bookstores and you lecture me with the Duke?"
Snidely
(I asked this before, but it seems to have gotten lost)
The collective WHAT of AFCA?
/dps
Pushmi-Pullyu
Something to do with teeth...
P
S. Checker
>
>> I'm curious why you've never added me. Is it because I once used Google
>> Groups? I was young, and curious.
>
> There is at least one Google Groper in that list.
>
> What information did you give me? Were you the one that submitted
> something stupid like Mars?
>
Which you might not have understood as being the local pronunciation.
--
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knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out.
-- pterry
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>> S. Checker wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious why you've never added me. Is it because I once
>>> used Google Groups? I was young, and curious.
>>
>> There is at least one Google Groper in that list.
>>
>> What information did you give me? Were you the one that
>> submitted something stupid like Mars?
>>
>
> <vo3kq3x...@tasker.pffcu.org>
>
> Which you might not have understood as being the local
> pronunciation.
Would you like me to enter your location as Philadelphia PA?
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S. Checker
> Would you like me to enter your location as Philadelphia PA?
>
That would be lovely. That way AFCAns sitting in the Philly airport
wondering if there's more to the city than Starbucks and recycled air
can come to Chinatown for some good Phoenix Roll.
--
Armenians and Azerbaijanis in Stepanakert, capital of the
Nagorno-Karabakh autonomous region, rioted over much needed spelling
reform in the Soviet Union.
-- P.J. O'Rourke
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Would you like me to enter your location as Philadelphia PA?
>>
>
> That would be lovely. That way AFCAns sitting in the Philly
Done.