Boat pr0n
John Hatpin
<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-The-Sea-Shepherd-Societys-bullet-proof-Batmobile-set-wreak-havoc-Japanese-whaling-fleets.html>
or: http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
--
John Hatpin
http://uninformedcomment.wordpress.com/
Lee Ayrton
> The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-The-Sea-Shepherd-Societys-bullet-proof-Batmobile-set-wreak-havoc-Japanese-whaling-fleets.html>
> or: http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> (Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
Runs on biodiesel -- would that include whale oil?
Boron Elgar
>The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-The-Sea-Shepherd-Societys-bullet-proof-Batmobile-set-wreak-havoc-Japanese-whaling-fleets.html>
>or: http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
>(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
>decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
>reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
Boron
Mac
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin wrote:
> > The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> > or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> > (Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> > decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> > reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> Runs on biodiesel -- would that include whale oil?
In a sense. On the circumnavigation run, it was partly powered by
lipo-sucked human fat. (Very, very, partially powered.)
Mac
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>
> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
> Boron
That's yer basic trimaran, really, with some really high intake vents.
Is this thing actually new here? It's been unavoidable in the marine
world online.
Boron Elgar
Snidely
>
> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
It's a hull.
You might hear it referred to as an "ama" or a "pontoon". On the boat
I crewed on, "ama" was the preferred term. Between being balanced
(one on each side) and being sizable, they help with placement of the
center of gravity and probably with the center of drag. They can be
used for storage, or in larger boats can have berths.
In my limited experience, outriggers are usually not balanced and are
relatively small -- they just catch the boat as it rolls, and have no
usable space.
/dps
Lars Eighner
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lovely and talented Mac broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
<edging very slowly toward the door>
I...see...and...so...uh...do...some...people...think...I...mean
consider...that...a...green...fuel...in...light...of...the...global
warming...and...energy...crisis...thing...or...is...it---
I'M OUTTA HERE, SUCKERS!
*slam*
--
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302 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
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K_S_ONeill
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>
> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
It's a power trimaran. A sailing tri would have bigger amas (floats,
outer hulls, whatever). If a boat is called an 'outrigger' it
probably only has a single ama. A 'double outrigger' differs from a
trimaran mostly in philosophy; the volume of the amas is lower, and
it's intended to be sailed on the main hull.
Speaking of boat porn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
No noble purpose whatsoever.
--
Kevin
Boron Elgar
I know zilch about boats, other than a bit of sailing I have done on a
small lake --two-person Sunnies, that sort of thing, or canoes and
rowboats.
The more serious experience I have is with wind up or baking soda
powered stuff in the bathtub.
The photo looks like a stealth boat to me. Very nice.
Boron
Boron Elgar
<uan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 18, 10:19�am, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>>
>> <RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>>
>> ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
>> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>>
>> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
>> >decoration. �This one's cool because it looks like that for good
>> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>>
>> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
>It's a power trimaran. A sailing tri would have bigger amas (floats,
>outer hulls, whatever). If a boat is called an 'outrigger' it
>probably only has a single ama. A 'double outrigger' differs from a
>trimaran mostly in philosophy; the volume of the amas is lower, and
>it's intended to be sailed on the main hull.
What's the biggest sailboat you ever took out and worked?
Boron
>
>Speaking of boat porn:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
>
>No noble purpose whatsoever.
Can't get the link to work.
John Hatpin
> Is this thing actually new here? It's been unavoidable in the marine
> world online.
It's new to me, but not to you, evidently. Whether it's new to other
people, I have no way of knowing.
The reason it's in the news now is that it's just broken the
round-the-world speed record (61 days). That's talked about in the
article, but I guess you had to read up to the third sentence to know
that.
Hactar
Mac <ANMC...@ALUM.WPI.EDU> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 8:19 am, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
> >
> > <RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> > >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
> >
> > ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
> > >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
> >
> > >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> > >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> > >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
> >
> > So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
23' snorkel?
> Is this thing actually new here? It's been unavoidable in the marine
> world online.
I haven't seen it before.
--
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When we've nuked the world to a cinder, the cockroaches picking
over the remains will be crawling over the remaining artifacts
and wondering what "PC LOAD LETTER" means. -- PC / ASR
K_S_ONeill
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:21:55 -0800 (PST), K_S_ONeill
>
>
>
>
>
> <uane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 18, 10:19 am, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>
> >> <RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> >> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> >> ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
> >> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> >> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >> >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> >> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
> >It's a power trimaran. A sailing tri would have bigger amas (floats,
> >outer hulls, whatever). If a boat is called an 'outrigger' it
> >probably only has a single ama. A 'double outrigger' differs from a
> >trimaran mostly in philosophy; the volume of the amas is lower, and
> >it's intended to be sailed on the main hull.
>
> What's the biggest sailboat you ever took out and worked?
The biggest sailboat I've been on is a big >110 ft ship rigged replica
in Ft Lauderdale. The biggest boat I've actually pulled strings on
was a ~70 ft 12 meter, though I didn't do much, I was mostly just
along for the ride. The biggest boat I've driven and been 'in
charge', calling the trimming and so on, is, uh... I guess a 40ish ft
cat I sailed in BC a few years ago. I'm mostly a small boat sailor.
> >Speaking of boat porn:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
>
> >No noble purpose whatsoever.
>
> Can't get the link to work
Go to youtube and search for "BMW ORACLE Racing: Day 3 Testing".
The America's Cup is about to be raced, the teams can't agree on
'terms', so it reverts to the description in the Deed of Gift for the
cup, thus calling the boats DOG boats. BMW-O's nickname is Dogzilla.
In today's world a DOG boat will be a big multihull. The two current
boats are the defender Ahlinghi and BMW-O. Ahlingi is the bad guys,
lots of court challenges and underhanded stuff to try to not have to
defend on the water. Both are fairly radical boats by any standards,
but Dogzilla's hard wing is out of this world, it's 80% longer than a
747 wing. They put it up for the first time a few days ago and you
could watch on the webcam on a local news station. Amazing. Then
(the same day) they zoomed around the harbor, perfect control and
very, very fast. Then they broke something the next day, then fixed
it and broke something else. 50 days until they race, and no one
still knows where, no one knows if the wing will hold together long
enough to win a series, no one knows if Ahlingi has a wing in a shed
somewhere, no one knows how fast they can go so no one knows what the
tactics will be, really.
I'm usually not very interested in high dollar yacht racing, I think
the money could be better spent elsewhere. Bill Gates might have been
the devil incarnate when he was in charge of M$, but I admire what
he's doing with his money much more than I admire Larry Ellison
building this. Ok, fine. They're still amazing boats, I can't wait
for them to race.
--
Kevin
Hactar
Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:21:55 -0800 (PST), K_S_ONeill
> <uan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 18, 10:19�am, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
> >>
> >> <RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> >> >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
> >>
> >> ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
> >> >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
> >>
> >> >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >> >decoration. �This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >> >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
> >>
> >> So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
> >
> >It's a power trimaran. A sailing tri would have bigger amas (floats,
> >outer hulls, whatever). If a boat is called an 'outrigger' it
> >probably only has a single ama. A 'double outrigger' differs from a
> >trimaran mostly in philosophy; the volume of the amas is lower, and
> >it's intended to be sailed on the main hull.
>
> What's the biggest sailboat you ever took out and worked?
>
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
> >
> >No noble purpose whatsoever.
>
> Can't get the link to work.
Go to youtube.com and search for "xyhGcXRq7SM". No Flash in this
environment, so the easiest way for me to see Youtube videos is to do
that to view them on my iPod.
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
If you need someone to blame
Throw a rock in the air
You'll hit someone guilty -- U2, _Zooropa_, "Dirty Day"
Boron Elgar
wrote:
Aha...and of course, the link works perfectly, now. Thanks for the
tip.
Boron
Boron Elgar
<uan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What's the biggest sailboat you ever took out and worked?
>
>The biggest sailboat I've been on is a big >110 ft ship rigged replica
>in Ft Lauderdale. The biggest boat I've actually pulled strings on
>was a ~70 ft 12 meter, though I didn't do much, I was mostly just
>along for the ride. The biggest boat I've driven and been 'in
>charge', calling the trimming and so on, is, uh... I guess a 40ish ft
>cat I sailed in BC a few years ago. I'm mostly a small boat sailor.
I've been a cruise passenger on some 80 ft or larger craft and played
a bit in NY Harbor, but nothing bigger under sail. I walked around
bigger, like the Clearwater, but not on the open water.
>
>> >Speaking of boat porn:
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
>>
>> >No noble purpose whatsoever.
>>
>> Can't get the link to work
>
>Go to youtube and search for "BMW ORACLE Racing: Day 3 Testing".
I got it to work, thanks.
>
>The America's Cup is about to be raced, the teams can't agree on
>'terms', so it reverts to the description in the Deed of Gift for the
>cup, thus calling the boats DOG boats. BMW-O's nickname is Dogzilla.
>In today's world a DOG boat will be a big multihull. The two current
>boats are the defender Ahlinghi and BMW-O. Ahlingi is the bad guys,
>lots of court challenges and underhanded stuff to try to not have to
>defend on the water. Both are fairly radical boats by any standards,
>but Dogzilla's hard wing is out of this world, it's 80% longer than a
>747 wing. They put it up for the first time a few days ago and you
>could watch on the webcam on a local news station. Amazing. Then
>(the same day) they zoomed around the harbor, perfect control and
>very, very fast. Then they broke something the next day, then fixed
>it and broke something else. 50 days until they race, and no one
>still knows where, no one knows if the wing will hold together long
>enough to win a series, no one knows if Ahlingi has a wing in a shed
>somewhere, no one knows how fast they can go so no one knows what the
>tactics will be, really.
>
>I'm usually not very interested in high dollar yacht racing, I think
>the money could be better spent elsewhere. Bill Gates might have been
>the devil incarnate when he was in charge of M$, but I admire what
>he's doing with his money much more than I admire Larry Ellison
>building this. Ok, fine. They're still amazing boats, I can't wait
>for them to race.
TAC racing always seemed like a ship design game more than a real race
among equals. It isn't as if the crew isn't talented - they are - but
the engineering always seemed to draw all the attention. Granted,
even the favored design might not really make it, and no matter what,
it can be fun to watch, but I have never been on a boat that moves in
such a way and I fear I'd get sick long before I could really enjoy
it.
Boron
K_S_ONeill
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:45:45 -0800 (PST), K_S_ONeill
> TAC racing always seemed like a ship design game more than a real race
> among equals. It isn't as if the crew isn't talented - they are - but
> the engineering always seemed to draw all the attention.
There are two kinds of sailboat racing, development classes and one-
design. AC racing has been run under several different rules, but
always development classes. It's as much a design competition as a
sporting event. In one-design all the boats are the same, within very
tight limits, and it's supposed to be an even sporting competition,
though in reality it's often about setting up your boat correctly as
much as about sailing it well.
> Granted,
> even the favored design might not really make it, and no matter what,
> it can be fun to watch, but I have never been on a boat that moves in
> such a way and I fear I'd get sick long before I could really enjoy
> it.
You might be surprised. Big multihulls are very smooth and non-pitchy
compared to monohulls. The Girl and I went sailing on a cat in
Hawai'i in pretty rough water and she was fine, but she'd hoark in a
minute in similar conditions on a monohull sailboat or a powerboat.
--
Kevin
Nick Spalding
<fd3a2754-e0e2-4aa3...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:45:45 -0800 (PST):
The biggest I have been on was the Pamir, in Shadwell Dock ca. 1946 or
1947.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_(ship)>
The biggest I have actually helmed was a 12-meter called Norsaga in 1960
when she was in use as a trial horse by a syndicate with their eyes on
an America's Cup challenge. I had built them a VMG computer out of
synchro resolvers and servers and spent a happy couple of weeks sailing
in her in the Solent.
<http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1071095/index.htm>
--
Nick Spalding
Mac
> On Nov 18, 8:19 am, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
>
> > <RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> > >The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> > ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
> > >or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> > >(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> > >decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> > >reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> > So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
> It's a hull.
Well, sorta. There's some would even call that a tri-hull, although
that's now almost universally used for much closer spacing. I think
the nomenclature is still evolving, except for traditional designs.
>
> You might hear it referred to as an "ama" or a "pontoon". On the boat
> I crewed on, "ama" was the preferred term. Between being balanced
> (one on each side) and being sizable, they help with placement of the
> center of gravity and probably with the center of drag. They can be
> used for storage, or in larger boats can have berths.
They effect stability, but, ceteribus effin paribus, the cg and drag
aren't changed, just the righting arm.
Snidely
> Speaking of boat porn:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhGcXRq7SM
>
> No noble purpose whatsoever.
You should have picked the 49s from Day 2 -- there's a little bit of
flying on the right ama.
(for the non-multihullers out there, a cat or a tri gets its speed
from being long and skinny (stilletto-like) and the effect is
exaggerated when the heeling lifts the windward hull(s) out of the
water and reduces drag)
/dps
Peter Ward
I'd give my righting arm to sail a boat like that.
--
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I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
Here am I, brain the size of a planet, and I spend my time posting to
Usenet!
Snidely
> They effect stability, but, ceteribus effin paribus, the cg and drag
> aren't changed, just the righting arm.
ceteris?
I'll have to rerun my mental simulations.
/dps
Greg Goss
They called it a "trimaran". Is there a difference between a pontoon
and an outrigger?
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Snidely
> Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hootmail.com> wrote:
> >So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
> They called it a "trimaran". Is there a difference between a pontoon
> and an outrigger?
Mac, Kevin, and I have touched upon the subject ... and I forgot to
add "sponson".
/dps
plausible prose man
<RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
you know, except Batman drives it,
>which is only a
> decoration.
So's stopping the whale fleet.
This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> reason,
Eh
>and does noble, REAL work.
Stopping the whale fleet so's silly gits like you can feel good about
themselves is...but then again, given how you feel about the proper
relationship between the individial and the state, its unsurprising to
see you take the side of the leviathan, huh?
Dutch "our boots and clothes are all in pawn" Courage
> --
> John Hatpinhttp://uninformedcomment.wordpress.com/
Mac
> >On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin
> ><RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> >>The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> >>or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> >>(Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> >>decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> >>reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>
> >So is that considered as an outrigger or a pontoon or a combo of both?
>
> They called it a "trimaran". Is there a difference between a pontoon
> and an outrigger?
Yeah, but not an inviolate one. "Outrigger" usually means an
relatively small float used mainly for stability. Pontoon had become
strongly associated with low-speed, sealed tubes that each support a
more-or-less proportionate weight of the structure...kinda like the
pontons (sic) in some floating bridges do. A "pontoon boat" is usuall
rather close to a powered raft, much like ponto(o)n ferries, in fact.
All this terminology is still a little shaky in English, though, since
we've only had a century or two to refine it, and only really began in
earnest about 6 decades ago.
Trimarans are a really vexed issue, since they run from things that
are a whisper from being a single stepped hull to something that looks
like a section of a floating bridge to something that's really a
monohull with trainer wheels. I'd definitely call them amas or
outriggers or lee pods, never call them pontoons...unless they were
made out of tubes and obviously borrowed from "pontoon boat" design.
Mac
Sponson, though, usually implies close in, either directly attached or
at the kind of distance that is close enough in effect, or for a WIG
assisted boat that really is a short-winged aircraft.
plausible prose man
<RemoveThisjfhop...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
> The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
> or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> (Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
> John Hatpinhttp://uninformedcomment.wordpress.com/
I don't give a shit about whales, I don't respect anyone who does.
Nick Spalding
on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:23:51 +0000:
>
> The biggest I have been on was the Pamir, in Shadwell Dock ca. 1946 or
> 1947.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_(ship)>
>
> The biggest I have actually helmed was a 12-meter called Norsaga in 1960
> when she was in use as a trial horse by a syndicate with their eyes on
> an America's Cup challenge. I had built them a VMG computer out of
> synchro resolvers and servers and spent a happy couple of weeks sailing
servos dammit not servers.
K_S_ONeill
> K_S_ONeill wrote, in
> <fd3a2754-e0e2-4aa3-9483-c2d665bf9...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
I was on her sister ship the Peking in New York a few years ago. Very
big boat.
--
Kevin
S. Checker
> In our last episode,
> <5b34dd4b-38a2-433f...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, the
> lovely and talented Mac broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>> lipo-sucked human fat. (Very, very, partially powered.)
>
> <edging very slowly toward the door>
>
> I...see...and...so...uh...do...some...people...think...I...mean
> consider...that...a...green...fuel...in...light...of...the...global
> warming...and...energy...crisis...thing...or...is...it---
>
> I'M OUTTA HERE, SUCKERS!
>
> *slam*
It's not like there's a shortage of it in these parts. The Gummint
could issue liposuction coupons down at McD's and solve our reliance on
foreign oil in no time.
--
But I always fired into the nearest hill or, failing that, into
blackness. I meant no harm; I just liked the explosions. And I was
careful never to kill more than I could eat.
-- Raoul Duke
Bob Ward
<uan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The biggest I have been on was the Pamir, in Shadwell Dock ca. 1946 or
>> 1947. �
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_(ship)>
>
>I was on her sister ship the Peking in New York a few years ago. Very
>big boat.
>
>--
I was lucky enough to get a free ride and an air show on the US
nuclear carrier John C. Stennis a few years ago.
http://www.cvn74.navy.mil/home.html
Lars Eighner
lovely and talented Lars Eighner broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> In our last episode,
><5b34dd4b-38a2-433f...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, the
> lovely and talented Mac broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>> On Nov 18, 8:10�am, Lee Ayrton <layr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:33 +0000, John Hatpin wrote:
>>> > The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>>>
>>> > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227503/Pictured-Th...>
>>> > or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>>>
>>> > (Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
>>> > decoration. �This one's cool because it looks like that for good
>>> > reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
>>>
>>> Runs on biodiesel -- would that include whale oil?
>> In a sense. On the circumnavigation run, it was partly powered by
>> lipo-sucked human fat. (Very, very, partially powered.)
><edging very slowly toward the door>
> I...see...and...so...uh...do...some...people...think...I...mean
> consider...that...a...green...fuel...in...light...of...the...global
> warming...and...energy...crisis...thing...or...is...it---
> I'M OUTTA HERE, SUCKERS!
> *slam*
Damn! I thought I was kidding.
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/peru-gang-killing-human-fat>
Gang 'killed victims to extract their fat' | World news | The Guardian
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> The word "wow" was invented for something like this:
>
> or: http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
>
> (Much, much cooler than that Batmobile car thing, which is only a
> decoration. This one's cool because it looks like that for good
> reason, and does noble, REAL work.)
Mac
>
> > or:http://tinyurl.com/yf44atd
For those not inundated with Marine News:
http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100105-4.html
The Ady Gil's bow sheared off in collision with whaler.
John Hatpin
Also, the US press has been calmly ignoring the Clipper Round The
World Race almost since it left Hull last September. Hardly
surprising; the American entry has been doing very badly indeed.
Not as badly as the Irish entry, though, which has just run aground
off Java:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8458615.stm>
They really should have been more careful - at the start of the South
Africa - Australia leg, they rammed the British entry, leaving both
vessels stuck in port for repairs and ruling them out of that leg.
As for California, the US entry, they've come last - by a long way,
too - in every leg so far. I'd give more details, but the race site
is down, presumably because of traffic after the Irish incident.
Here's the URL anyway:
<http://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/index.php/Follow/RaceViewer>
K_S_ONeill
Ocean racing isn't popular here anyway, ocean racing with paying
amateur crews is a non-event. I'm sure it's great sport, but it's not
going to get much coverage here no matter how the US team does.
--
Kevin
Lee Ayrton
>
> For those not inundated with Marine News:
>
> http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100105-4.html
>
> The Ady Gil's bow sheared off in collision with whaler.
She's at the bottom of the ocean now. Sank under tow.
SS has filed maritime charges against the Japanese, claiming that the Gil
was dead in the water at the time and the ther ship, with way on, failed
to yield. I think the word "piracy" was used.
--
"If you can fake verisimilitude, you're home free."
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John Hatpin
I'm not surprised nobody there takes an interest, if the American
team's so bad.
OR:
I'm not surprised the American team's so bad, if nobody there takes an
interest.
Snidely
My small sampling of the viewing population suggests that more
Anglophone Americans watch soccer (the Other Football) than watch
yacht races. Those who do watch tend to be sailors who race (myself,
I've crewed around the buoys on weeknights and weekends many times,
and several races to Catalina -- which doesn't count as offshore).
The rare exceptions occurred during America's Cup campaigns prior to
Dennis Conner.
And it appears to be a footnote that half the non-American America's
Cup entries since Dennis Conner have had an American skipper,
tactician, or navigator. Or maybe I'm just remembering the standouts.
sweet!
/dps
Peter Ward
> soccer (the Other Football)
Ahem! I'm not letting that pass (Pass! I slay myself).
Rugby Union and Association Football are most certainly nearer to the
spirit of football than the Johnny-come-lately US version, as are the
Aussie and Gaelic versions. If anything is the "Other Football", it's
gridiron. (Rugby League is a step in that direction.)
--
Peter, from outside the asylum
I'm an alien
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