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Who was (or is) 'Dandemis'?

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Geoduck

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Dec 22, 2002, 5:49:30 AM12/22/02
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Someone on another newsgroup was using this quote as their sig file:

"Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your
own. You may both be wrong."

The author is credited as being one 'Dandemis'. The user of the quote
was asked what the source was, but they didn't know; they picked it up
on-line somewhere. Trolling the various search engines turns up only
one additonal quote supposedly by this person:

"The noblest employment of the mind of man is the study of the works
of his creator. To him whom the science of Nature delights, every
object brings a proof of his God; and everything that proves this
gives cause for adoration."

A check of Google Groups has people using the first quote as a sig
file as far back as 1990, so it's at least that old.

Anybody ever hear of this individual?
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John Dean

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Dec 22, 2002, 11:53:52 AM12/22/02
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Geoduck wrote:
> Someone on another newsgroup was using this quote as their sig file:
>
> "Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your
> own. You may both be wrong."
>
> The author is credited as being one 'Dandemis'. The user of the quote
> was asked what the source was, but they didn't know;

I don't have any positive answers but I have some negatives that may narrow
down the possibility.
The word is not known to Encyclopaedia Britannica or to Encarta on-line. It
is not cited anywhere in the OED. Amazon don't know it. Neither do ABE.
Barnes and Noble claim to have 30,000 books matching 'dandemis' as a search
clue but they don't.

The hits on Google have, to me, the look of a meme spreading over the net
but I cannot identify the source. Either it is a pure invention or it is an
error - a mipselling of an author's name or of a word in a foreign language.
However, Onelook Dictionaries can't identify it and Hachette French
Dictionary doesn't know it either (the form of the word had a frenchified
air to me)

I've posted a query on rec.arts.books but don't hold your breath. Or mine.
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John Caldwell

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Dec 22, 2002, 1:48:47 PM12/22/02
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"John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
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This has a "made-up" smell to me. I haven't found a single reference to a
person known as Dandemis; all I can find is that bloody quote, usually in
"inspirational" phrase lists. My huge French dic. doesn't hold any clues
(I thought the same as you John; 'Dandemis' sounds like the fifth
Musketeer),
and the various online quotation resources available at bartleby.com show
no hits at all. Online sites which allow subscribers to submit their own
quotes for inclusion, however, all seem to have references, and the
number of calendars which use this not-so-witty aphorism, and the number
of USENET folk who use it as a sig. added together must be considerable.

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JC


chris greville

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Dec 22, 2002, 1:49:49 PM12/22/02
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"John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
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I have had a look at various quote books that I have and nothing shows up in
these, either.
And it certainly sounds French.


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Lalbert1

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Dec 22, 2002, 5:04:24 PM12/22/02
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In article <au4qk0$18f$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "John Dean"
<john...@frag.lineone.net> writes:

>air to me) ....

I searched and couldn't find anything to point to the identity of Dandemis.
But here is a clue based purely on a guess. My OED says that the word "dan" is
an old form of master or sir. The word "demiss" means "humble". It's possible
that Dandemis (Master Humble or Sir Humble) is a pen name of someone from way
back in history, or the pen name of some long forgotten newspaper philosopher.

Les

SoCalMike

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Dec 22, 2002, 7:48:53 PM12/22/02
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"Geoduck" <geo...@webave.com> wrote in message
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daedalus?


John Dean

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Dec 22, 2002, 8:26:32 PM12/22/02
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Mulligan?

Joe Shimkus

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Dec 22, 2002, 8:46:09 PM12/22/02
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In article <au5op0$cqk$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote:

Stu?


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Sean Houtman

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:18:36 AM12/24/02
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From: lalb...@aol.com (Lalbert1)

>I searched and couldn't find anything to point to the identity of Dandemis.
>But here is a clue based purely on a guess. My OED says that the word "dan"
>is
>an old form of master or sir. The word "demiss" means "humble". It's
>possible
>that Dandemis (Master Humble or Sir Humble) is a pen name of someone from way
>back in history, or the pen name of some long forgotten newspaper
>philosopher.
>

The name almost sounds like a latinization such as was popluar in the past.
This meshes with the tone of the second quote. The style of the second quote
looks like what may have been written by an intellectual of that period as
well. It is easy enought to fake a style though.

Sean


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dacote

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Dec 30, 2002, 5:25:44 AM12/30/02
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"Joe Shimkus" <j...@shimkus.com> wrote in message news:joe-
> > > daedalus?
> >
> > Mulligan?
>
> Stu?

KHAAAAANNNN!


WDani...@aol.com

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Jul 24, 2016, 10:00:48 AM7/24/16
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Dandamis was a Brahmin, philosopher, swami and a gymnosophist, whom Alexander encountered in the woods near Taxila, when he invaded India in 4th century B.C. (Wikipedia)

Les Albert

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Jul 24, 2016, 11:23:47 AM7/24/16
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT), WDani...@aol.com wrote:

>Dandamis was a Brahmin, philosopher, swami and a gymnosophist, whom Alexander encountered in the woods near Taxila, when he invaded India in 4th century B.C. (Wikipedia)


“Facts are like cows. If you look them in the face long enough, they
generally run away.” - Dorothy L. Sayers

Les

Bill Turlock

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Jul 24, 2016, 2:10:53 PM7/24/16
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT), WDani...@aol.com wrote:

>Dandamis was a Brahmin, philosopher, swami and a gymnosophist, whom Alexander encountered in the woods near Taxila, when he invaded India in 4th century B.C. (Wikipedia)


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From: geo...@webave.com (Geoduck)
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Subject: Who was (or is) 'Dandemis'?
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Whiskers

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Jul 30, 2016, 11:22:48 AM7/30/16
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“The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.” L P
Hartley, 'The Go Between'.

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Whiskers

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Jul 30, 2016, 11:50:35 AM7/30/16
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For completeness, this appeared on line about ten years after the OP
posed the question:

PROCEEDINGS OF THE DUTCH ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY
VOLUMES XLII-XLIII (2010-2011)
Editors: J.M. Kelder, J.P. Stronk, and M.D. de Weerd
2012

1. Introduction
The true identity and meaning of Calanus and Dandamis, Indian
philosophers referred to in the histories of Alexander, has long
fascinated students of the history of philosophy. The two figures
stand as the earliest reference in Greek philosophy to its Indian
counterpart and probably the most solid reference as well. But
Calanus and Dandamis are not figures from Indian philosophy itself as
identifiable names within that tradition, but are figures which
appear only referenced in the Alexander histories. They are reported
to us in Arrian, Strabo and Plutarch. Preserved within these sources
are some primary accounts from observers within the company of
Alexander himself, namely Onesicritus, Aristobolus and Nearchus.
Additional information with regards to the pair is garnered also
through Megasthenes who, although writing after the fact, fills out
and supports the story provided by Alexander’s companions.

[...]

<http://www.academia.edu/3780642/Calanus_and_Dandamis_a_Greek_Sketch_of_Indian_Thought>

Now I can't stop thinking about Majikthise and Vroomfondel.

Rick B.

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Jul 30, 2016, 12:28:36 PM7/30/16
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Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
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> Now I can't stop thinking about Majikthise and Vroomfondel.

Vroomfondel sounds like it should describe some one who likes a sports car
just a little too much.

Tim Wright

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Jul 30, 2016, 12:39:35 PM7/30/16
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To me it sounds like the Elvish land where Middle Earth's sports cars
are produced.

Is it too soon to do a reboot of "Bored of the Rings".
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Greg Goss

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Jul 30, 2016, 1:11:20 PM7/30/16
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I had always heard it as "Broomfondle"
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Kerr Mudd-John

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Jul 31, 2016, 12:35:56 PM7/31/16
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 14:50:31 -0100, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
wrote:
Vroomfondel is right! down with Majikthise!

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Opus the Penguin

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Aug 3, 2016, 8:28:09 PM8/3/16
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Tim Wright <tlwri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it too soon to do a reboot of "Bored of the Rings".

Too late, actually.

Anyway, how was that tea?

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Howard

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Aug 3, 2016, 9:09:02 PM8/3/16
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Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim Wright <tlwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it too soon to do a reboot of "Bored of the Rings".
>
> Too late, actually.

Why? In the NBA Finals, LeBron James was passing really well and averaged
almost 9 assists a game.
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