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The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.

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ChasNemo

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Dec 11, 2009, 9:16:54 AM12/11/09
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The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.

COL. BILL KILGORE

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The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.

....just like your "Charles Nemo" sock, huh Denise.
<chortle>


Clairbear

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"COL. BILL KILGORE" <wski...@patriotism.us.org> wrote in
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> .. On Dec 10, 2:11?am, Clairbear <cl...@Verizon.net> wrote:
>> <.... ?tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! ?.! ? ? ? ? ? ? ?!!! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? .>
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>> >> ? 2009 WorldN<SMAK!>
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>> > We already know hannity is a brain dead fuckwit.
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>> tactic of attacking the messenger. So much for your credibilty or
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> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.
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> ....just like your "Charles Nemo" sock, huh Denise.
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Nemo is an idiot, KFed long ago WHO ID Denise?
The birthcerticate thing was a sham from the beginning
Jelly bean attacks the messenger with out reference to the message all the
time

ChasNemo

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On Dec 11, 5:42�pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
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Obviously you haven't moved on, Wingnut. <snicker>

ChasNemo

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> > .. On Dec 10, 2:11?am, Clairbear <cl...@Verizon.net> wrote:
> >> <.... ?tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! ?.! ? ? ? ? ? ? ?!!! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? .>
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> >> > "U S Army Veteran" <some...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> >> ? 2009 WorldN<SMAK!>
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> >> > Asshole, please.....
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> >> > We already know hannity is a brain dead fuckwit.
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> >> > No need to keep emphasizing the fact.
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> > The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.
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> Nemo is an idiot, KFed long ago �WHO ID Denise?
> The birthcerticate thing was a sham from the beginning
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Obviously you haven't moved on, Wingnut. <snicker>

chatnoir

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:37:28 AM12/12/09
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> > >> 2009 WorldN<SMAK!>
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> > > Asshole, please.....
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> > > We already know hannity is a brain dead fuckwit.
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> > > No need to keep emphasizing the fact.
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> The birther bullshit

http://sloone.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/obama.jpg?w=399&h=330

was refuted long ago.  All but the the most

> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.- Hide quoted text -

Hagar

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:39:19 AM12/12/09
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You're just so ... original, in your feeble retorts <snigger>


ChasNemo

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Translation: Fagar's got nuthin'. <snicker>

Notroll2009

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:58:50 PM12/12/09
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Translation: Fagar's got nuthin'. <snicker>

He also believes Sarah Stupid has brains. What are you going do?


ChasNemo

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:38:19 AM12/13/09
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I'm going to continue to enjoy watching Fagar's frenzied twisting and
spinning in the hot wind of his effluvial ignorance. Admittedly it's
cheap amusement, but it's easy.

Notroll2009

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Translation: Fagar's got nuthin'. ?<snicker>

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I'm going to continue to enjoy watching Fagar's frenzied twisting and
spinning in the hot wind of his effluvial ignorance. Admittedly it's
cheap amusement, but it's easy.

Most of that hot wind is Fagar farts which, if captured, could heat his
trailer for years on end.


Jim Alder

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:09:31 PM12/13/09
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ChasNemo <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
27a1cc...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.

No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed and false
evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would accept
the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his name.

--
My girlfriend asked me "Have you been having
sex behind my back?"

I said "Who in the hell did you think it was?"

ChasNemo

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:26:30 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 8:09�pm, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
> ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
> 27a1cc454...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

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> > The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. �All but the the most
> > rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> � � No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed and false
> evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would accept
> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his name.

You braindead rightards had plenty of time to peddle your birth
certificate bullshit *before* your 2008 election humiiation but only
chose to try to push it AFTERwards. You're sore losers, but it's too
late now! <snicker!>

You traitorous rightards sure sucked up to the Bu$h/Cheney KKKrime
Family -- the most EVIL empire that AmeriKKKa has ever seen! Proof
lies in WMD lies, the totally bogus Iraq War, the tanked economy, the
Katrina debacle, etc. ad nauseum. You're stuck with that legacy
now!! <chortle!!>

You whiny rightards are hereby ordered to STFU and ESAD. You're
yesterday's news, AlderLOON!!! <guffaw!!!>

IAAH

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:47:31 PM12/13/09
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On 12/13/09 8:09 PM, * Jim Alder wrote:
> ChasNemo <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
> 27a1cc...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
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>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
>> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed and false
> evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would accept
> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his name.
>

No, it was refuted; comprehensively and
thoroughly. All this birther bullshit is and
always has been nothing but bullshit.

If you think that there's "false evidence" out
there, then show it.

--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
-Bertrand Russell

Jim Alder

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IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote in news:hg45fk$13n$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

> On 12/13/09 8:09 PM, * Jim Alder wrote:
>> ChasNemo <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
>> 27a1cc...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
rightarded
>>> wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>>
>> No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed and
false
>> evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would
accept
>> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his name.
>>
>
> No, it was refuted; comprehensively and
> thoroughly. All this birther bullshit is and
> always has been nothing but bullshit.
>
> If you think that there's "false evidence" out
> there, then show it.

Sigh... Fine. Here we go again.

http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-
Life/BarakObamaForgedByRockefeller/ImageFiles/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

Get back to me when you can show me another government form that identifies
someone's race as "AFRICAN". That is not a race, it's a continent.

Clairbear

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:48:36 PM12/13/09
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Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
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> ChasNemo <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
> 27a1cc...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
>> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed
> and false
> evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would
> accept the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after
> his name.
>

Even if the BC allegations could be proved I am sure you'd rather have
Obama in charge than Biden the gaffe machine or once his incompetence is
proven nasty nancy in charge compared to the damage those two could do
Obama is almost preferable

IAAH

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:34:28 PM12/13/09
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Get back to me when you can show that it's a
forgery (in other words, that something on there
is false or obviously wrong).

I bet you can't.

Meanwhile, the birther bullshit is still bullshit.

IAAH

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:59:07 PM12/13/09
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(The reason that I dismiss your "reasoning":
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)

Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but
hey, here's your chance.

Draccus

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:02:42 AM12/14/09
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On Dec 13, 10:21 pm, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote innews:hg45fk$13n$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

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> > On 12/13/09 8:09 PM, * Jim Alder wrote:
> >> ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
> >> 27a1cc454...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.  All but the the most
> rightarded
> >>> wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> >>     No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed and
> false
> >> evidence produced to distract from the real evidence. Democrats would
> accept
> >> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his name.
>
> > No, it was refuted; comprehensively and
> > thoroughly. All this birther bullshit is and
> > always has been nothing but bullshit.
>
> > If you think that there's "false evidence" out
> > there, then show it.
>
>     Sigh... Fine. Here we go again.
>
> http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-
> Life/BarakObamaForgedByRockefeller/ImageFiles/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
>
>    Get back to me when you can show me another government form that identifies
> someone's race as "AFRICAN". That is not a race, it's a continent.
>
> --
> My girlfriend asked me "Have you been having
> sex behind my back?"
>
> I said "Who in the hell did you think it was?"

As has pointed out to you repeatedly Race is a self-Id the person
doing the paperwork uses the race the parent states nothing more
nothing less. This is what we call a red herring and you are going
down the false trail at a full trot never going to get the fox that
ways.

ChasNemo

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On Dec 13, 10:48�pm, Clairbear <cl...@Verizon.net> wrote:
> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote innews:Xns9CE0CD110AB4j...@216.196.97.142:

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> > ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1de5a8de-5a8c-41b8-8bc1-
> > 27a1cc454...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. �All but the the most
> >> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> > �No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed
> > �and false evidence produced to distract from the real evidence.
> > Democrats would accept the devil himself if he could win elections
> > and had a D after his name.
>
> Even if the BC allegations could be proved I am sure you'd rather have
> Obama in charge than Biden the gaffe machine or once his incompetence is
> proven nasty nancy in charge compared to the damage those two could do
> Obama is almost preferable

Your attempted dodge of rightarded birther bullshit iss duly noted.
It's left you rightards KKKlearly self-labeled as the traitorous
buffoons that you KKKlearly are. Gospel.

Jim Alder

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IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote in news:hg4gmr$gp1$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

I had, of course, just done so.



>> Meanwhile, the birther bullshit is still bullshit.
>
> (The reason that I dismiss your "reasoning":
> http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)

You think I hadn't read that already? "we accept what the parents self
identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack
Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African."

If "Factcheck"'s idea of fact checking is "we think it reasonable to
believe" then they aren't fact checkers, they're apologists. So if someone
goes to the Hawaiian bureau and identifies themselves as "Martian" they will
put that on the form? Yet there's no way they took his mother's word that he
was born in Hawaii without ironclad proof? You people are ridiculous.

Like I said, show me another form from another person who calls themselves
"African".



> Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
> is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but
> hey, here's your chance.

I'm betting that whatever I say, you'll be able to find some left-leaning
website like Factcheck that will "find it reasonable" to deny it.

Jim Alder

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Draccus <dracc...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5adc3ac2-9a0d-41f8-b488-
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So if someone calls himself a "cockerspaniel" or a "banana" the clerk will
just put it on the form? But hey, I, unlike you, am willing to be proven
wrong. Show me another BC or form of any kind from back then where someone's
race is identified as "African". Should be a simple thing - it's a big
continent.

> This is what we call a red herring and you are going
> down the false trail at a full trot never going to get the fox that
> ways.

--

IAAH

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:36:56 AM12/14/09
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You really hadn't.
Saying so doesn't make it so, regardless of the
quantity or quality of the tantrums you're pitching.

>
>>> Meanwhile, the birther bullshit is still bullshit.
>> (The reason that I dismiss your "reasoning":
>> http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)
>
> You think I hadn't read that already? "we accept what the parents self
> identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack
> Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African."

In other words, your "reasoning" that the word
couldn't have been used is specious.

>
> If "Factcheck"'s idea of fact checking is "we think it reasonable to
> believe" then they aren't fact checkers, they're apologists. So if someone
> goes to the Hawaiian bureau and identifies themselves as "Martian" they will
> put that on the form? Yet there's no way they took his mother's word that he
> was born in Hawaii without ironclad proof? You people are ridiculous.

So all that other evidence that shows he was born
in Hawaii is automatically invalidated by your
incredulity, is it?

(and you say non-birthers are ridiculous?)

>
> Like I said, show me another form from another person who calls themselves
> "African".
>
>> Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
>> is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but
>> hey, here's your chance.
>
> I'm betting that whatever I say, you'll be able to find some left-leaning
> website like Factcheck that will "find it reasonable" to deny it.

So you don't have anything.
Well, that's not exactly a surprise.

COL. BILL KILGORE

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On Dec 10, 2:11?am, Clairbear <cl...@Verizon.net> wrote:
> <.... ?tHe_PC_JelLlLy BeAn!! ?.! ? ? ? ? ? ? ?!!! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? .> wrote
> innews:3bmp9l....@news.alt.net:
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> > "U S Army Veteran" <some...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:k8WdneuLLvmj473W...@giganews.com...
> >> Posted: December 08, 2009
> >> 10:49 pm Eastern
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> >> ? 2009 WorldN<SMAK!>

>
> > Asshole, please.....
>
> > We already know hannity is a brain dead fuckwit.
>
> > No need to keep emphasizing the fact.
>
> Ok so you cnn;t refute the meseager so you resort to the Alinsky tactic of
> attacking the messenger. So much for your credibilty or lack thereof.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.

Too bad you are unable to refute the inconveniant truth about you that we
exposed several years ago, huh Denise.


Jim Alder

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IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:

> Jim Alder wrote:
>> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:


>>> IAAH wrote:
>>>> Jim Alder wrote:

>>>>> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>>>>>> Jim Alder wrote:

>>>>>>> ChasNemo <chas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago. All but the the most
>>>>>>>> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed
>>>>>>> and false evidence produced to distract from the real evidence.
>>>>>>> Democrats would accept
>>>>>>> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his
name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it was refuted; comprehensively and thoroughly. All this birther
>>>>>> bullshit is and always has been nothing but bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that there's "false evidence" out there, then show it.
>>>>
>>>>> Sigh... Fine. Here we go again.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-
>>>>> Life/BarakObamaForgedByRockefeller/ImageFiles/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Get back to me when you can show me another government form that
>>>>> identifies someone's race as "AFRICAN". That is not a race, it's a
>>>>> continent.
>>>>
>>>> Get back to me when you can show that it's a forgery (in other words,
>>>> that something on there is false or obviously wrong).
>>>>
>>>> I bet you can't.
>>
>> I had, of course, just done so.
>
> You really hadn't.
> Saying so doesn't make it so,

You sound like you realize that, but you continue to do only that.

> regardless of the
> quantity or quality of the tantrums you're pitching.

Sigh... Have you given up already? That's all you had was one article that
said "We think it's reasonable to assume we're right and you're wrong?"



>>>> Meanwhile, the birther bullshit is still bullshit.
>>> (The reason that I dismiss your "reasoning":
>>> http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)
>>
>> You think I hadn't read that already? "we accept what the parents self
>> identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that
Barack
>> Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African."
>
> In other words, your "reasoning" that the word
> couldn't have been used is specious.

I don't need for you to paraphrase in 'other words' since I already
expressed my disdain for their subjective dismissal.

>> If "Factcheck"'s idea of fact checking is "we think it reasonable to
>> believe" then they aren't fact checkers, they're apologists. So if someone
>> goes to the Hawaiian bureau and identifies themselves as "Martian" they
will
>> put that on the form? Yet there's no way they took his mother's word that
he
>> was born in Hawaii without ironclad proof? You people are ridiculous.
>
> So all that other evidence that shows he was born
> in Hawaii is automatically invalidated by your
> incredulity, is it?

No, but his grandmother saying he was born in Africa adds to my
incredulity. His refusal, no, his EFFORTS to avoid supplying the requested
information contributes to my incredulity.

> (and you say non-birthers are ridiculous?)

Did I? When?

>> Like I said, show me another form from another person who calls
themselves
>> "African".

Well?



>>> Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
>>> is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but hey, here's your chance.
>>
>> I'm betting that whatever I say, you'll be able to find some left-
leaning
>> website like Factcheck that will "find it reasonable" to deny it.
>
> So you don't have anything.
> Well, that's not exactly a surprise.

Why should I keep supplying reasons for doubt when you're just going to
repeat leftwing bullshit defenses?

Iarnrod

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:54:50 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 10:26 am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> >>> IAAH wrote:
> >>>> Jim Alder wrote:
> >>>>> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> >>>>>> Jim Alder wrote:
> >>>>>>> ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> The birther bullshit was refuted long ago.  All but the the most
> >>>>>>>> rightarded wingnuts have moved on to other whack-o theories.
>
> >>>>>>>     No, it hasn't ever been refuted. It's been ignored and ridiculed
> >>>>>>>     and  false evidence produced to distract from the real evidence.
> >>>>>>>     Democrats would  accept
> >>>>>>> the devil himself if he could win elections and had a D after his
> name.
>
> >>>>>> No, it was refuted; comprehensively and thoroughly. All this birther
> >>>>>> bullshit is and always has been nothing but bullshit.
>
> >>>>>> If you think that there's "false evidence" out there, then show it.
>
> >>>>>     Sigh... Fine. Here we go again.
>
> >>>>>http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-
> >>>>> Life/BarakObamaForgedByRockefeller/ImageFiles/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
>
> >>>>>    Get back to me when you can show me another government form that
> >>>>> identifies someone's race as "AFRICAN". That is not a race, it's a
> >>>>> continent.
>
> >>>> Get back to me when you can show that it's a forgery (in other words,
> >>>> that something on there is false or obviously wrong).
>
> >>>> I bet you can't.
>
> >>     I had, of course, just done so.
>
> > You really hadn't.
> > Saying so doesn't make it so,
>
>     You sound like you realize that, but you continue to do only that.

A-loon, he has proven it.

Hawaii says it issued it; ipso facto it cannot possibly be a forgery.

> > regardless of the
> > quantity or quality of the tantrums you're pitching.
>
>     Sigh... Have you given up already? That's all you had was one article that
> said "We think it's reasonable to assume we're right and you're wrong?"

Alderloon! The proof has been in for more than a year, the cases are
*closed!* It's over.

> >>     If "Factcheck"'s idea of fact checking is "we think it reasonable to
> >> believe" then they aren't fact checkers, they're apologists. So if someone
> >> goes to the Hawaiian bureau and identifies themselves as "Martian" they
> will
> >> put that on the form? Yet there's no way they took his mother's word that
> he
> >> was born in Hawaii without ironclad proof? You people are ridiculous.
>
> > So all that other evidence that shows he was born
> > in Hawaii is automatically invalidated by your
> > incredulity, is it?
>
>     No, but his grandmother saying he was born in Africa adds to my
> incredulity.

His grandmother never said any such thing, A-loon. PROVEN FACT from
the actual transcript of the conversation and the verbatom
translation.

She said he was born in Hawaii while SHE was in Kenya.

> His refusal, no, his EFFORTS to avoid supplying the requested
> information contributes to my incredulity.

He needs to supply no more information. The matter is closed. There is
no proper request for anything else. your incredulity, caused by your
glue-sniffing habit, does not create an actual need.


> >>     Like I said, show me another form from another person who calls
> themselves
> >> "African".
>
>     Well?

Why? It's immaterial as to what THIS one states.


> >>> Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
> >>> is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but  hey, here's your chance.
>
> >>     I'm betting that whatever I say, you'll be able to find some left-
> leaning
> >>     website like Factcheck that will "find it reasonable" to deny it.
>
> > So you don't have anything.
> > Well, that's not exactly a surprise.
>
>     Why should I keep supplying reasons for doubt when you're just going to
> repeat leftwing bullshit defenses?

You mean truth, A-loon?

You gots nuttin'!

ChasNemo

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:57:44 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 9:56�am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
wrote:
> "ChasNemo" <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> exposed several years ago, huh Denise.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Most relevant to this thread -- too bad you have nothing to add to the
birther debacle except more rightarded stupidity.

Too bad your allegations about us have all been bullshit, o proven
fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore.

Too bad your military career and "5 figure monthly military pension"
are totally bogus.

Too bad the S.S. Finding Nemo remains sunk after, lo. these many
years.

Too bad everyone has ID'd you as an impotent, lying buffoon.

Too bad you're the running joke of Usenet

Too bad you can't do a thing about it.

<snicker>

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 14, 9:56?am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>

The Colonel has NEVER addressed the "birther" theory. Get your facts
straight before you post Denise.

Too bad your allegations about us have all been bullshit, o proven
fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore.

We have offered several items of tangible and verifiable evidence that you
are, in fact, Denise Channing. You, OTOH, have offered absolutely NO
tangible and verifiable evidence that you aren't Denise Channing. Case
closed.

Too bad your military career and "5 figure monthly military pension"
are totally bogus.

Present your evidence to that effect.


Too bad the S.S. Finding Nemo remains sunk after, lo. these many
years.

It came into port and docked several years ago after completing it mission
of exposing you as Denise Channing.

Too bad everyone has ID'd you as an impotent, lying buffoon.

You mean "everyone" whose thought processes are as burned-out as yours.

<chortle>


ChasNemo

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On Dec 14, 9:30�pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> <chortle>- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Too bad you're a moth drawn to the flame, o proven fraud and disgrace
Col. Bill Kilgore! <snicker!>

Too bad you're doomed to twist perpetually in the dismal wind of your
powerlessness!! <chortle!!>

Too bad you're passing a miserable holiday season into yet another
year of futility!!! <guffaw!!!>

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 14, 9:30?pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> The Colonel has NEVER addressed the "birther" theory. ?Get your facts

> straight before you post Denise.
>
> Too bad your allegations about us have all been bullshit, o proven
> fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore.
>
> We have offered several items of tangible and verifiable evidence that you
> are, in fact, Denise Channing. You, OTOH, have offered absolutely NO
> tangible and verifiable evidence that you aren't Denise Channing. ?Case

> closed.
>
> Too bad your military career and "5 figure monthly military pension"
> are totally bogus.
>
> Present your evidence to that effect.
>
> Too bad the S.S. Finding Nemo remains sunk after, lo. these many
> years.
>
> It came into port and docked several years ago after completing it mission
> of exposing you as Denise Channing.
>
> Too bad everyone has ID'd you as an impotent, lying buffoon.
>
> You mean "everyone" whose thought processes are as burned-out as yours.
>
> <chortle>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Too bad you're a moth drawn to the flame, o proven fraud and disgrace
Col. Bill Kilgore! <snicker!>

Too bad you're doomed to twist perpetually in the dismal wind of your
powerlessness!! <chortle!!>

Too bad you're passing a miserable holiday season into yet another

Too bad you can't get funding for your movie project. <chortle>


year of futility!!! <guffaw!!!>


ChasNemo

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:05:52 PM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 9:16�am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> year of futility!!! �<guffaw!!!>- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No movie projects here in Hell, MI. You should lay off the crack
pipe, poseur boi.

Draccus

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:09:01 PM12/15/09
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On Dec 14, 12:26 pm, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> >>> IAAH wrote:
> >>>> Jim Alder wrote:
> >>>>> IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> >>>>>> Jim Alder wrote:
Come up with a substantive argument or something based in basic
reality we might refute it more. You keep going in circles with things
that have already been shown using facts that they and you are
laughable.


>
> >>>> Meanwhile, the birther bullshit is still bullshit.
> >>> (The reason that I dismiss your "reasoning":
> >>>http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)
>
> >>     You think I hadn't read that already? "we accept what the parents self
> >> identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that
> Barack
> >> Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African."
>
> > In other words, your "reasoning" that the word
> > couldn't have been used is specious.
>
>     I don't need for you to paraphrase in 'other words' since I already
> expressed my disdain for their subjective dismissal.
>

We dismiss you because your lack of basic intellect is world well
known on usenet you have never based anything with supporting facts.
You make references to sources that are laughable at their best. So
you being dismissed is simply good form.

>
> >>     If "Factcheck"'s idea of fact checking is "we think it reasonable to
> >> believe" then they aren't fact checkers, they're apologists. So if someone
> >> goes to the Hawaiian bureau and identifies themselves as "Martian" they
> will
> >> put that on the form? Yet there's no way they took his mother's word that
> he
> >> was born in Hawaii without ironclad proof? You people are ridiculous.
>
> > So all that other evidence that shows he was born
> > in Hawaii is automatically invalidated by your
> > incredulity, is it?
>
>     No, but his grandmother saying he was born in Africa adds to my
> incredulity. His refusal, no, his EFFORTS to avoid supplying the requested
> information contributes to my incredulity.

Repeating the same lie over and again does not change it from being a
lie.


That is a lovely story fact is it does not hold up to checking as been
shown she said no such thing her words were taken out of context by
dishonest nitwits like yourself.

>
> > (and you say non-birthers are ridiculous?)
>
>     Did I? When?
>
>
>
> >>     Like I said, show me another form from another person who calls
> themselves
> >> "African".
>
>     Well?
>
>
>
> >>> Now, do you have anything - anything at all - that
> >>> is substantive? I'm betting that you don't, but  hey, here's your chance.
>
> >>     I'm betting that whatever I say, you'll be able to find some left-
> leaning
> >>     website like Factcheck that will "find it reasonable" to deny it.
>
> > So you don't have anything.
> > Well, that's not exactly a surprise.
>
>     Why should I keep supplying reasons for doubt when you're just going to
> repeat leftwing bullshit defenses?

You have presented not one single factually based reason to doubt the
President was born in Hawaii, but here is another thing it really
would not matter he was born to a mother who was a United States
Citizen and thus a Natural Born Citizen himself. The Great lie that
both parents must be US Citizens falls flat on it's face.

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 15, 9:16?am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> Col. Bill Kilgore! ?<snicker!>

>
> Too bad you're doomed to twist perpetually in the dismal wind of your
> powerlessness!! ?<chortle!!>

>
> Too bad you're passing a miserable holiday season into yet another
>
> Too bad you can't get funding for your movie project. <chortle>
>
> year of futility!!! ?<guffaw!!!>- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No movie projects here in Hell, MI.

No "Charles Nemo" in Hell, MI. either. How do you put it, "Gospel"??


ChasNemo

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On Dec 15, 10:17�pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> No "Charles Nemo" in Hell, MI. either. How do you put it, "Gospel"??- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Still twisting and spinning, eh, Wingnut? Glad to see you finally
admit that we're not involved with any movie projects though!
<snicker!>

The S.S. Finding Nemo remains sunk, and Spring 2010 awaits you.
You'll need to salvage lots of aluminum cans during the coming long
Winter in order to fund yet another futile salvage attempt!!
<chortle!!>

Carry on, o proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore!!! <guffaw!!!>

COL. BILL KILGORE

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:47:33 AM12/16/09
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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 15, 10:17?pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>

Another example of that "steel-trap" you have for a mind. At no time did we
admit any such thing. We simply stated that there was no "Charles Nemo" in
Hell, Michigan. Anything else you may read into that simple statement comes
from deep inside the bowls of that mass of rotted fecal matter you call a
brain.


ChasNemo

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Dec 16, 2009, 9:29:50 AM12/16/09
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On Dec 16, 8:47�am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> brain.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Au contraire, fool, your tacit admission was inherent in your "No
"Charles Nemo" in Hell, MI. *either*." (emphasis added) reply to my
"No movie projects here in Hell, MI."! <snicker!>

Your projection of your own "mass of rotted fecal matter you call a
brain" is duly noted too!! <chortle!!>

You're way out of your *very* minor league, but feel free to keep
flailing futilely, o proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore.
It's been amusing for, lo, these many years!!! <guffaw!!!>

P.S. Have you done a Google search for "proven fraud and disgrace Col.
Bill Kilgore" lately? You have "quite* a reputation.
BWAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 8:47?am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> Still twisting and spinning, eh, Wingnut? ?Glad to see you finally

> admit that we're not involved with any movie projects though!
> <snicker!>
>
> Another example of that "steel-trap" you have for a mind. ?At no time did
> we
> admit any such thing. ?We simply stated that there was no "Charles Nemo"
> in
> Hell, Michigan. ?Anything else you may read into that simple statement
> comes
> from deep inside the bowls of that mass of rotted fecal matter you call a
> brain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Au contraire, fool, your tacit admission was inherent in your "No
"Charles Nemo" in Hell, MI. *either*." (emphasis added) reply to my
"No movie projects here in Hell, MI."! <snicker!>

Your projection of your own "mass of rotted fecal matter you call a
brain" is duly noted too!! <chortle!!>

You're way out of your *very* minor league, but feel free to keep
flailing futilely, o proven fraud and disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore.
It's been amusing for, lo, these many years!!! <guffaw!!!>

P.S. Have you done a Google search for "proven fraud and disgrace Col.
Bill Kilgore" lately? You have "quite* a reputation.
BWAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

As do you:

http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/holocaus.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nocd0uefrfA

Enjoy.


oz

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>
> - Show quoted text -

Get with it, Nemise. You were found to be Denise log ago. There's
enough circumstantial evidence to hang you. To continue denying it
just embarrasses yourself.

oz

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Dec 16, 2009, 9:56:52 AM12/16/09
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> pipe, poseur boi.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You're not in Hell, Mich., Nemise. Just more of our standard bullshit.

ChasNemo

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> You're not in Hell, Mich., Nemise. �Just more of our standard bullshit.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Of course we're in Hell, MI. Flanier found us easily, and we had a
real laugh about you and Dar KKKernal KKKlink (aka proven fraud and
disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore), who are merely too stupid to use a small
white pages directory.

oz

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> white pages directory.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No such listing. And, yes, both you and Flanier are laughable.

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 9:56?am, oz <wizardryofoz...@webtv.net> wrote:
> > No movie projects here in Hell, MI. ?You should lay off the crack

> > pipe, poseur boi.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You're not in Hell, Mich., Nemise. ?Just more of our standard bullshit.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Of course we're in Hell, MI.

The State of Michigan DMV, drivers license bureau, and the Ross County
public records division all say you're full of shit.

Flanier found us easily,

flanier couldn't find his ass if one of his boyfriends at ASB handed it to
him.

and we had a
real laugh about you and Dar KKKernal KKKlink (aka proven fraud and
disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore), who are merely too stupid to use a small
white pages directory.

It must be awfully small Denise, because if there is one out there with the
name "Charles Nemo" in it, nobody in the Hell, MI area has ever seen it.
Perhaps you have it inserted up your anal canal.


ChasNemo

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:36:29 AM12/17/09
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On Dec 16, 10:04�pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> Perhaps you have it inserted up your anal canal.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You're stupid even for an alleged ex-colonel, o proven fraud and
disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore. Moth to the flame -- just like we said.
<snicker>

COL. BILL KILGORE

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"ChasNemo" <chas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 10:04?pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> ? Flanier found us easily,

>
> flanier couldn't find his ass if one of his boyfriends at ASB handed it to
> him.
>
> ?and we had a

> real laugh about you and Dar KKKernal KKKlink (aka proven fraud and
> disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore), who are merely too stupid to use a small
> white pages directory.
>
> It must be awfully small Denise, because if there is one out there with
> the
> name "Charles Nemo" in it, nobody in the Hell, MI area has ever seen it.
> Perhaps you have it inserted up your anal canal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're stupid even for an alleged ex-colonel, o proven fraud and
disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore. Moth to the flame -- just like we said.
<snicker>

Forgive us for the Ross County mistake (which you were to brain-dead to even
notice.) We meant Livingston County. We tend to confuse you with Hawkster,
as you are both identical in you cowardice and lies.


ChasNemo

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:36:23 PM12/17/09
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On Dec 17, 9:43�am, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <wskilg...@patriotism.us.org>
> as you are both identical in you cowardice and lies.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

We don't even bother trying to correct your retarded carcass, since
you've been braindead for, lo, these many years and are buffoonishly
infamous on Usenet for your absurd claims and lies. "Proven fraud and
disgrace Col. Bill Kilgore" fits you perfectly.

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