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Ana Voog  
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 More options Oct 30 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Ana Voog <ana...@hotmail.com>
Date: 1998/10/30
Subject: the clitoris
Posted by ANA on October 30, 1998 at 05:23:29:

This was printed in the 1 August New Scientist. (Hard copy)

The basic summary is:
Anatomists have discovered that the pictures in traditional
textbooks are erroneous, and the clitoris is, in fact, much
larger
than previously supposed, extending back into the groin.

This was written by Susan Williamson and Rachel Nowak.
Edited for brevity(indicated by ellipses) and some spelling
has been Americanized :

************************************

Penis envy may be a thing of the past. The clitoris, as it
turns out,
is no "little hill" as its derivation from the Greek 'kleitoris'
implies.
Instead, it extends deep into the body, with a total size at
least twice
as large as most anatomy texts show, and tens of times larger
than the
average person realizes, according to new studies by Helen
O'Connell, a
urology surgeon at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Melbourne.

The clitoris earned it's Liliputian reputation, in part, because
much of
its elaborate 3D structure is on the inside, hidden by fat and
bone - an
anatomical smoke screen that has helped fool lay people and
experts
alike.
"There is a lot of erectile tissue down there that is not drawn
in any
anatomy textbooks, save perhaps a couple of really old
dissections in the
French and German literature." says O'Connell. "Just because
you can't
see the rest doesn't mean it's not there."

Nor does it mean it is not important. O'Connell's detailed
descriptions
of female sexual anatomy could help prevent women who have
pelvic
operations from ending up with impaired sexual function.

"The dissections are wonderful," says Cindy Amundson, a
gynecologist at
the University of Houston in Texas. "The erectile tissue is
closer to
the
urethra and encompasses a far larger area of the anterior
vaginal wall
than most people thought."

O'Connell first realized just how little was known about female
sexual
anatomy when she was studying for her surgical exams in the late
1980's.
Even nowadays, she says, textbooks routinely recycle
decades-old,
inaccurate illustrations of female sex organs, or omit diagrams
altogether. The written accounts can also lack a certain
something. One
text describes female genitalia as the guy's only tuned inside
out;
another, as the "poor homologue" of the male.

And none of them - not even the anatomists' bible, 'Gray's
Anatomy' -
describe in detail the nerves and blood vessels that go to the
clitoris.
"For a surgeon," says O'Connell, "that's unacceptable."

[...snip portion which describes the study of male sexual
anatomy]

Helped by John Huston, an expert on pediatric genital
reconstruction at
the University of Melbourne, O'Connell hoped to do the same for
women's
sexual anatomy and surgery. But as she started to map out the
nerves,
she
realized it wasn't just the fine detail that was missing from
the
textbook
picture of the clitoris. "I thought, Damn! I'm not sure the
gross
anatomy
is correct either," she says.

Since then O'Connell and her assistant Robert Plenter have
dissected the
bodies of ten adult women, relying heavily on photography to
capture the
3D structure of the clitoris. She has described in detail the
dorsal
nerves (much bigger than in the anatomy books) that are thought
to carry
the sensory information on the first step of its journey to the
brain, as
well as the cavernosal nerves that probably control the smooth
muscles of
the clitoris, enabling it to swell during sex. She has also
concluded
that the clitoris as described in most textbooks is a mere
shadow of its
real self.

According to O'Connell's dissections, the external tip of the
clitoris,
or glans, connects on the inside to a pyramid-shaped mass of
erectile
tissue, far larger than previously described. The "body" of the
clitoris,
which connects to the glans, is about as big as the first joint
of your
thumb. It has two arms up to 9 centimeters long [!!] that flare
backwards
into the body, lying just a few millimeters from the ends of the
muscles
which run up the inside of the thigh. Also extending from the
body of
the
clitoris, and filling the space between its arms, are two bulbs,
one to
each side of the vaginal cavity.

The bulbs do, in fact, make an appearance in at least some
textbooks,
but few recognize them as part of the clitoris. Indeed, they
are usually
referred to as the "bulbs of the vestibule" - the vestibule
being the
vagina. To make their origins clearer, O'Connell wants to
rename them
"the bulbs of the clitoris". The penis also has bulbs of
erectile tissue
at its root which extend into the body cavity, but "the bulbs
are more
prominent in females," she says.

'Gray's Anatomy' and other texts also claim that the clitoris,
unlike
the penis, is entirely separate from the urethra, the tube that
connects
the bladder to the outside. O'Connell disagrees. According to
her
dissections, the clitoris surrounds the urethra on three sides,
while the
fourth is embedded in the front wall of the vagina.

The layout makes perfect sense if you think about what the
clitoris has
to do. Freud described it as a tool for arousing the rest of
the female
much as "pine shavings can be kindled in order to get a log of
harder
wood
on fire." [?!] But the clitoris also helps squeeze the urethra
shut
during intercourse, perhaps stopping bacteria making their way
up to the
bladder and causing an infection. The engorged bulbs of the
clitoris may
also help hold the walls of the vagina rigid, aiding
penetration.

[.... snip surgeons developing nerve-saving surgeries for
incontinence
and hysterectomies]

So why have anatomists routinely got the clitoris wrong? Part
of the
problem may be a Victorian prudishness about examining women's
sexual
organs in detail.

Then there's the fact that most of the clitoris is hidden
inside,
shielded by fat and the arch of the pubic bone. Another
obstacle
to accuracy is that anatomical studies are usually done on the
bodies of
women in their 80s and 90s. Just as muscle and bone wither with
age, so
does the mass of erectile tissue in the clitoris. In men,
shrinking
erectile tissue is less of an obstacle, at least for the
anatomist. More
men die in accients, so young bodies routinely find their way to
the
dissection table. And as the erectile tissue of the penis is
mainly on
the outside in one piece, it's easier to spot.

O'Connell had two cadavers of women under forty. The older
bodies had
much smaller clitorises (although still far larger than in the
textbooks),
but once O'Connell had identified the erectile tissue in the
younger
women
it was easy to find in the older ones. "We lucked out," she
says, "one
of
our cadavers was 36 years old. She looked like an Amazon."

O'Connell is now studying the cellular structure of the
clitoris,
urethra, and vagina. Amundsen, meanwhile, suggests another
topic for
research: "We have Viagra. We know anatomically what's going on
[in the
clitoris]. We need some studies in erectile dysfunction in
women."

Further reading: "Anatomical relationship between urethra and
clitoris"
by H.E. O'Connell and others, "Journal of Urology', vol 159, p
1892
(1998).


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Dennis Erwin Thurlow  
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 More options Oct 31 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Dennis Erwin Thurlow <geos...@tcon.net>
Date: 1998/10/31
Subject: Re: the clitoris

> Anatomists have discovered that the pictures in traditional
> textbooks are erroneous, and the clitoris is, in fact, much
> larger than previously supposed, extending back into the groin.

I wasn't aware of this, but don't find it suprizing.  The clitoris
and penis both develop from the same fetal tissue, and the penis
actually fills most of the lower pelvis, with the bulb at the back
end resting against the anus.
It's been 25 years since I took vertibrate anatomy, but IIR both organs
are about the same size in fetal pigs.
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Andy Webb  
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 More options Nov 3 1998, 3:00 am
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From: "Andy Webb" <andy.w...@swinc.com.spamsucks.com>
Date: 1998/11/03
Subject: Re: the clitoris
LOL!

"...as the erectile tissue of the penis is
mainly on
the outside in one piece, it's easier to spot."

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dan the kitti man  
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 More options Nov 5 1998, 3:00 am
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From: dankittiNOSPAMPLE...@mindspring.com (dan the kitti man)
Date: 1998/11/05
Subject: Re: the clitoris
Once upon a time in the faerie woods, in <71ols3$2b...@news.jump.net>,
andy.w...@swinc.com.spamsucks.com (Andy Webb) said...

> "...as the erectile tissue of the penis is
> mainly on
> the outside in one piece, it's easier to spot."

this is true.  i never had any trouble spotting it.

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