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Cussen Trouble
Offical Dennys Security
High Priest to the Goddess of Love, Singular Prankster of Silent Giddiness
and
Mysterious Hoper of Passionate Rebirth
74.4% FaireFolk corrupt
Kintyre Phriekorps
Smoke Jumper, AFR Fire Brigade Engine Co.#1
Teaching History Through Faire Play
ARE YOU A REAL PATRON??????????
"Excuse me, have you seen trouble? For I am looking
for trouble!"
Salem castles inc. of Raleigh is building a medieval style castle in Cary
NC. that will house a hotel.it will have 3 restaurants,30 retail stores
and 92 room hotel.
JOB:
duchess will be the public face of the castle,partnered with the
duke(company president)the 2 in period costume will represent the company
for all ceremonial,social and business functions.the duchess will help lead
the day to day operations of the company.
REQUIREMENTS:
female with british accent(DESIRED),leadership skills,dynamic
personality,acting ability.she will preside over feasts in the great
hall.must have experience in hospitality,restaurant or retail fields and be
willing to work about 60 hours per week.applicants do not need to be
medieval history experts.
MONEY:
65,000 PER YEAR PLUS BONUSES AND STOCK
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The whole process of broadening enough to quit the day job :-)
-Vince
www.vinceconaway.com
I am the Costume Designer / Director for International Renaissance
Festivals Ltd. which is the parent company of MDRF and OntRF so...
Faire is my full time job, with benefits. WHOHOO! doing the happy
dance. I love my job! =)
Back to sewing..............
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-Stitch-
Costume Designer / Director
International Renaissance Festivals Ltd.
Home Fair MDRF www.rennfest.com
Pvt. MoonPie, PACS, 1st Bat. Louisiana Zouaves, Coppens Brigade
Toujours L'Adaucieux!! Toujours Zouaves!!
Campfollower, Kings Lifeguard of Foote www.ecwsa.org
Benevolent Ruler.."SNARF!"
AIM MoonPie1861
- "Immaculate Costuming gives that confidence which Religion is powerless to
bestow"
- "Women who seek to be equal with Men, lack ambition"
- "If it's got tires or testicles, it's bound to be trouble"
Cracks the whip:
Yeah, finish those dresses: I think I'm one of the still "naked" actors
(had to go into the costume house for the Dick Whittington props last
night, and I didn't see anything that matched the pieces I saw last
week....)
;-D
Queen Maggie
Full career: Faire jobs
King or Queen (need part-time work, need off-season work)
Stage Act (may need off-season work)
Crafter
Game worker (need part-time and/or off-season work)
Full career: Faire related, do faire when in season
Performer--theme parks, private parties, corporate events, casinos
Actor--commercials, industrials, modelling, stage plays, film extra (if in
right city)
Artist/Craftsperson/Artisan--sell at own shop, group shop, or craft fairs
Stunt Woman--see actor
Stage Combat Choreographer/Teacher--professorial job or workshops
Director/Teacher--universities, schools, theatres, workshops
Playwright--freelance all year round with some Renfest work
Full or part-time Faire related:
Theme park/casino actor or character (Disney, Vegas, etc)
Variety performer for hire (like performer, but you also have a real job)
The deal with Renfest jobs is that they almost all fall into the category of
"artist jobs"--the jobs like actor, writer, visual artist, etc, that many
people do not make a living at. However, many people who do make a living
in an artist field have discovered that it's not your talent level or even
your drive--it's what aspect of the field you try to succeed in.
For example, I'm an actor.
Career path A: Go to college and get degree in musical theatre. Move to
New York. Wait tables and do tiny Off-Off-Off-Off-Broadway shows while
waiting for chorus part in Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. Eventually get
second lead in Cats, play second fiddle to soap opera star flown in for six
week run. Die bitter and alone in over-priced studio apartment.
Career path B: Drop out of college after being told "you have a look" and
move to LA. Wait tables (surreptitiously giving resumes with meal checks to
producers and Sundance habitues) and do tiny Equity Waiver shows while
waiting for walk-on on Friends. Eventually get small recurring part on soap
opera and several speaking parts in films. Watch weight and work out until
skin starts to look "mature". Get character roles in hometown dinner
theatre productions. Die bitter and alone in ugly stucco suburban
split-level.
The problem with both of these career paths (and excuse me while I slip into
lecture mode--my classes start next week) is that they all depend on someone
else giving us permission to do our work. Actors who follow these paths
generally spend their whole lives waiting for someone else to say. "Yes,
you're good enough, yes you're right for the part, yes, you're what we're
looking for." Instead, why not follow:
Career path C: Get degree in theatre, study post-graduate at workshops in a
specialized area, in my case, mask, stage combat, and physical theatre.
Teach summer camp for a prestigious theatre, parlay this into educational
tour job. Write Renaissance Festival show and secure partial run at faire
I've volunteered for since the age of 14. Send out videos of admittedly
hideous, unfunny show, get several partial runs. Get better due to needing
to eat (not funny=poor hat pass). Start teaching high school workshops.
Start teaching college workshops. Show gets better--get full runs at better
faires. Start performing at corporate events. Sometimes do "real" acting
jobs, but don't audition because at this point your college friends seek you
out to specifically be in their shows. Get college teaching gig. Do even
better festivals, put new material in show. Start being pickier about jobs,
start charging more. Write grants to develop new material that doesn't have
to please the client. Write one-person show. Still no benefits, still no
insurance, but the work is steady and the pay is good. And I'm not waiting
for anyone else to give me permission to do the work I was meant to do.
For artists, it means selling their work to the public instead of letting
gallery owners and museum curators tell them what to paint that will sell.
For writers it means marketing their own plays instead of waiting to be
published by Samuel French.
I often think that 'school days' at Renaissance Festivals miss the point.
Sure, we're historical, and that's pretty cool. But we're also a whole big
group of entrpreneurs who follow their paths without worrying about the high
failure rate within their careers, and who neatly sidestep the enormous
'ladder to success' we're all brainwashed into thinking we have to
laboriously climb.
On the escalator,
Allison Williams
>===== Original Message From "Isabella" <devi...@gte.net> =====
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Trong Trongersoll, Hermit from the Hills,
Ogre Extrodinaire, Bount. Bodice Guild, Supporter #3
Ren.Geek NJ:NYRF
AIM: Trongersol http://www.geocities.com/trongersoll
Participant:
alt.fairs.renaissance
alt.smokers.pipes
I sold my Soul at http://www.soulXchange.com
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-Vince
Allison,
I've always thought "you have a look..."
But then again, I'm always feel that way about people who eat fire...
Miss you guys at MDRF...
brian (desmond)
brian wendell morton
conjurer, charmer, card cheat, cad
the lies of brian - amazing trickery & honest deceit
www.liesofbrian.com | email: bwm at charm.net
Right now I've decided to go to a private school without a theatre program.
Crazy, maybe, but they do have a few theatre classes and I plan on doing
local theatre and as many workshops as I can get my hands on.
I chose this school because it was important to me that I could go to a
college and just focus on growing myself as a person without having to worry
about defending myself/morals. I don't MIND doing that,(I like and accept
it) but I'd rather not have to do it full time while I'm trying to learn.
(This is NOT an attack on theatre/arts people. I AM one. I've just had to
spend a lot of my time in theatre camps explaining my faith to people who
don't understand why I won't do this or that.)
To badly paraphrase Lucille Ball; "You have to develop yourself as a woman
before you can develop yourself as a performer."
I already have plans drawn up for a startup Shakespeare reading theatre (to
later expand to a "real" theatre) at my school, while learning all I can
about theatre, and then go on to graduate work, or perhaps one of the famous
3 year non-degree classical acting programs in England.
My big fear is that no one (ie graduate programs) will touch me if I don't
have a performing arts degree. My English teacher tells me that no one cares
what your BA is. Your thoughts?
Amanda/Jeanna
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Color me impressed. I always wanted to learn.
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Lessa
Yes, I work Faire. No, I don't remember your name either.
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learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.~~ Will
Rogers
"Tolerance is a virtue, and with all of our different ways of saying
it, we are all dancing to the same record."
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"....and with the flick of my wrist, I could change your religion."
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Cussen Trouble
Offical Dennys Security
High Priest to the Goddess of Love, Singular Prankster of Silent Giddiness
and
Mysterious Hoper of Passionate Rebirth
74.4% FaireFolk corrupt
Kintyre Phriekorps
Smoke Jumper, AFR Fire Brigade Engine Co.#1
Teaching History Through Faire Play
ARE YOU A REAL PATRON??????????
"Excuse me, have you seen trouble? For I am looking
for trouble!"
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>I spit fire...but thats sorta a whole diffrent thing entirely!
I can manipulate fire with my mind.... but that's a COMPLETLY different
illusion.....
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
As I looked upon the stair,
I saw a man who was not there.
He wasn't there again today,
Oh how I wish he'd go away!
As far as I know, graduate schools in the performing arts generally
recognize that not everyone who comes to them will have a
performing-arts baccalaureate; such practical experience as you are
planning for itself would actually be a better credit. The business
itself doesn't give a damn. (Unless you plan to sleep your way into a
job at the NJ Shakespeare Festival, in which case I suppose a
performing-arts degree is useful to avoid raising suspicions.)
--
John W. Kennedy
(Working from my laptop)
As some one ready to get out of the industry I am currently employed in (for the
last 21 years). I would love to see a Faire vendor write a similar missive on
starting and feeding a Faire vendor business. My partners and I have been
considering trying a business as Faire vendors. (me being singularly untalented
at acting, singing, playing music or dancing would leave out of the professional
ranks of preformers -- although I do envie them).
Within the next five to ten years, I have got to change vocations. My lifetime
frustration level is at chest level and rising. When I can no longer breath from
frustration, I will have to quit, die or kill some of the folks causing the
frustration.
Seamus
I am not Irish, I just play one at renaissance faires and drink their whiskey.
I need to drink a lot more.
I've been working the faires for 4 vendors for over 20 years. I've seen things
that work, and things that will kill a business. I'd reply direct, but for your
spamblocks.
Feel free to ask questions.
SS
Silver Otter #6
Managerious, Silver Otter Oasis.
"Reality is that which you trip over in the dark...
EVERYTHING else is point-of-view."
NoirDuWell of Sarcastica, Silver Moonshiner of the Realm
http://www.satyrsong.com
E-mail? Get the LEAD out.
Erm, I'd actually appreciate the information as well. I'm planning to have
a stand at our local faire next season, and can use all the help I can get!
--
Hellen Yrth- Wench of Contradictions
Evil Taunter to the Goddess of Freaks
Wench #1604
Toad Mistress #13
Original Fairy Slayer and Ren Scout
High Priestess to the Goddess of Love, Eternal Resource of Hidden Excursions
and Spicy Suckler of Zephryous Exoticism
"Hi! I'm Hellen, this is my sister Dany, and this is my other sister Dani."
One thing I'd like to add is that if you are an entrepreneur as a performer
of any kind, it can make a big difference if you are able to deal with
marketing yourself. I only point this out because I run across this
regularly and struggle with it myself.... some performers who love to get in
front of an audience are ambivalent and uncomfortable with touting and
selling their abilities. They either don't do it at all or they underplay
their skills and experience because of some kind of false sense of modesty.
Don't be afraid to be shameless in promoting yourself. There's no dishonor
in it, and the worst thing people can do is tell you to shut up!
--
Darcy
Navigator and webmaestro, the Pyrates Royale -- www.pyrates.com
part-time girly girl -- www.inourcups.org
musician -- www.bearmusic.com/Darcy/
hammered dulcimer, bouzouki, bodhran, bones, concertina and caterwauling
Snarkstress
"Yes, that was my out loud voice... got a problem with that?" --D
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There is an FAQ on Vending at faire on the SCRIBE site which has a lot of info
about different issues of vending. I'd love to have earning a living as a
vendor at faire discussed in its own thread. It's time to update the FAQ :-)
http://www.faire.net/SCRIBE/
Ann, who is seriously considering vending at faire after her kids all graduate
from high school (2004 here I come!)
Only when the check clears :)
Thanks for the compliment--I hope I get to perform for you some day!
Allison
One of the most-employed actors I know sends her headshot postcards to
everyone she's ever auditioned for every time a show opens. And it gets her
work, because she shows she's working.
It's hard to overcome our natural modesty sometimes, but "it ain't bragging
if it's true!"
Allison Williams
PyrateLady wrote in message <9m7er9$dpe$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...
>I chose this school because it was important to me that I could go to a
>college and just focus on growing myself as a person without having to
I think that's an excellent plan, and you seem to have your plan to stay
involved in theatre well-developed. Many of the BA and BFA students that I
teach focus so exclusively on theatre that they lose out on developing other
skills and other areas of knowledge that will benefit them both as actors
and as people. It's hard to do a play if you don't have a grasp of the
world, including history, psychology, philosophy, and even the
sciences--people who do ARCADIA or PROOF will have a big head start with a
sense of chaos theory, for example.
>My big fear is that no one (ie graduate programs) will touch me if I don't
>have a performing arts degree. My English teacher tells me that no one
cares
>what your BA is. Your thoughts?
That is generally correct. It's not that they don't care, but it's seldom
required to have a BA in theatre to be accepted to study for an MFA (which
is presumably where you'd go next.) If you plan to do any teaching at all,
a different undergrad degree is actually a bonus, as it expands what you can
teach. And as long as you maintain your involvement in theatre, it will be
clear to your school of choice that your undergrad (as you say :) ) helped
you develop as a well-rounded person, which can only benefit you and them.
There are programs that are primarily concerned with your talent--in which
case the degree is much less relevant--and programs that actually prefer you
to have had some life experience between undergrad and grad, in which case
some of that will also be theatre experience.
So that's what I think :) Good luck--and I'd be happy to give my opinions
if you have other questions--I'm currently applying to graduate school
myself, and combined with teaching in a university theatre department, it's
been an eye-opener!
Allison Williams
>Well said... hmmm maybe Allison missed a career as an inspirational speaker.
>Basically i think what she is saying is you can work for someone else or be
>Self Employed, and she chose self employment. Very well said.
except that in the arts, working for someone else sucks *much* harder than
it does in most other fields.
Anthony Argyriou
Cardiff Rose
http://www.alphageo.com/rose/
Even when one is self-employed, one still is answering to one's
clients. The independence I had while doing 1099 on a contract for the
government left much to be desired because although I had a certain
amount of freedom in that I was completely responsible for my hours
and my duties, I still had to handle the customer and respond to the
customer's requests (if I wanted to keep my job, that is). In the
performing arts, even as an independent contractor, one is constantly
sized up on matters that shouldn't have anything to do with whether or
not one gets the job, and one must usually follow whatever
rules/guidelines are set down by the person in charge of the place
where one is performing. Overall -- YES -- it's far better to be
self-employed, but I think it behooves one to keep in mind that the
reality is that one is never really completely independent.
-La
Depends on the Artist ya work fer!
I've worked for an ar-TISTE! ... with not a lot of contact in the REAL WORLD.
And I work for other Artists who are very fine workers in their Crafts, and
damn fine business"men" as well.
Ya plays 'em as ya see's 'em.
"How does a concert soprano change a light bulb? She holds it up in the air
and lets the world revolve around her."
"Why are conductor's hearts so desired for use in transplants? Because they
get so little use."
From the music "artiste" genre, but you get the idea.
My experience as one associated closely with the music profession for 43 years
is that artists in various fields tend to be more independent minded than most
other people. Yours truly included. That often makes for a bit of friction
with others less inclined in that direction.
Norm
I will kick in from a sort of viewpoint. 1)there are a lot of
"buckskin" events, cost is only for camping & food. 2)Work your way
into SF/Fantasy conventions. These are more expensive, as you have
hotel, table costs, food, etc. 3)Mall shows, are another way to "meet
the public and learn their buying habits." 5)SCA events (may or may
not be a good avenue), check with members to find out. 6)See what
other vendors you can "match up with," to work for them and sell on
consignment (*if they are willing*).
What you want to do, is long hard haul. From what I've seen here,
vendors often look for workers. _Exposure_ helps you to understand
what might sell. As Allison suggested, find ways to get your
name/face/goods, in front of as many as possible. If you can do
"demos," talk to schools.
> My partners and I have been
>considering trying a business as Faire vendors. (me being singularly untalented
>at acting, singing, playing music or dancing would leave out of the professional
>ranks of preformers -- although I do envie them).
>
>Within the next five to ten years, I have got to change vocations. My lifetime
>frustration level is at chest level and rising. When I can no longer breath from
>frustration, I will have to quit, die or kill some of the folks causing the
>frustration.
>
>Seamus
>
>I am not Irish, I just play one at renaissance faires and drink their whiskey.
>
>I need to drink a lot more.
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