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Petibacsi

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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I was wondering (ok, I have too much time on my hand) what is the word for
the idea of people not believing in the existence of female gods.

Since a female god is a goddess and without it I am goddessless, making it a
noun expressing the whole idea would be goddesslessness.

OK maybe I am right logically but not by common sense grammar, although I can
even make up a meaningful sentence with the word:

"People's goddesslessness is the reason why today's society doesn't respect
women as they should be."

I wonder for you native English speakers how this word sounds?

Peti

Petibacsi

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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Ellen, Ellen. :)

<shaking my head>

>> what is the word for
>> the idea of people not believing in the existence of female gods.

>Ellen:
>Atheism[1].

Wong. What if I believe in male gods? What if my Pantheon has no female
members? Than I am still theist but goddessless, and my state of believing is
goddesslessness.

>This is a vulgar error perpetrated by those who still conceive of
>the Deity as an old chap with a beard sitting on a cloud. There is
>no reason to suppose that God thinks of herself as "Goddess", anymore
>than a poet thinks of herself as a poetess or a doctor thinks of
>herself as a doctress.

Why? A female actor can think of herself as actress???


>Hmmm. Even if one allowed your gruesome neologism <g>

Neologism: 2 : a meaningless word coined by a psychotic

Thanks :)

> would that
>sentence be convincing?

Do you want me to make up an other one?

>{:-\ Is there an equivalent word in Hungarian?

I can coin one: isten+no+telen+seg=god+woman+less+ness

istennotelenseg

But here is an other sentence for you:

" I like to worship women so much that this state of goddesslessness is just
unbearable for me! "

How about that? :)

Peti

the jungle kitty

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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Petibacsi wrote:
>
> Ellen, Ellen. :)

>
> >This is a vulgar error perpetrated by those who still conceive of
> >the Deity as an old chap with a beard sitting on a cloud. There is
> >no reason to suppose that God thinks of herself as "Goddess", anymore
> >than a poet thinks of herself as a poetess or a doctor thinks of
> >herself as a doctress.
>
> Why? A female actor can think of herself as actress???

I have seen in print "authress" to describe a female writer. It's
awkward to say the least. Ironically, I rarely see "comedienne" used to
describe a female comedian.

Charles Riggs

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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On 9 Sep 1998 05:02:31 GMT, peti...@aol.com (Petibacsi) wrote:

> I was wondering (ok, I have too much time on my hand) what is the word for


>the idea of people not believing in the existence of female gods.
>

> Since a female god is a goddess and without it I am goddessless, making it a
>noun expressing the whole idea would be goddesslessness.
>
> OK maybe I am right logically but not by common sense grammar, although I can
>even make up a meaningful sentence with the word:
>
> "People's goddesslessness is the reason why today's society doesn't respect
>women as they should be."
>
> I wonder for you native English speakers how this word sounds?
>
> Peti

I think it sounds quite poetic, but my Goddess, it is difficult to
pronounce!

Charles

Petibacsi

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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>Ellen:

>Nope. If you believe in the existence of a divine being, or as some
>would say a Divine Being, then you are not an atheist.

So far so good and of course, but it wasn't the question.The question was
what if a believer makes distinction between the gender of his gods? If he has
only male gods than he is goddessless.

> The word
>has nothing to say about the anatomy of the Nether Regions of the
>Divine Beings in which people do or do not believe.

Of course and you brought it up for no reason. :)

>There's nothing to prevent you from describing yourself as goddessless
>and your condition as goddesslessness if you enjoy that.

Thank you. :)

>> Why? A female actor can think of herself as actress???
>

>An actress is not a female actor; an actress is the lady friend of
>a bishop.

That is a mistress. Or friendess. :)

>> I can coin one: isten+no+telen+seg=god+woman+less+ness
>>
>> istennotelenseg

Actually I made one extra e in it. Istennotlenseg.

>> " I like to worship women so much that this state of goddesslessness is
>just
>> unbearable for me! "
>>
>> How about that? :)
>>
>

>If I thought it was true that you were in such a state that you were
>prepared to worship women indiscriminately

Of course it is true. :)

(as opposed to one
>particular woman, or even half a dozen particular women), I would
>urge you to explore atheism immediately.
BTW I am atheist.

>Go, Peti, and sin no more!

Well, I hope you know that there is no objective morality thus sin is
relative. :)

Peti

JUST AN H

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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>> "People's goddesslessness is the reason why today's society doesn't respect
>>women as they should be."
>>
>> I wonder for you native English speakers how this word sounds?
>>

It certainly is a mouthful!

janelaw

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Ellen Mizzell wrote:

>
> Petibacsi (peti...@aol.com) wrote:
> > >
> > >> I can coin one: isten+no+telen+seg=god+woman+less+ness
> > >>
> > >> istennotelenseg
> >
> > Actually I made one extra e in it. Istennotlenseg.
>
> You have created a neologism in two languages. Is there a word for this?
>
> >
> >

He's an ambineologist. This coining words stuff is fun.

Petibacsi

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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>Ellen:
>Then are those who believe only in female gods to be described as
>godless?

You see, it took at least a minute when I saw your point. :)

HM, I think the problem is that with the word god we still can refer to a
genderless deity, or female deities without expressing their gender.

So for me godless would be atheists.

>No, I refute the charge.

You can at least try. :)

> It was you who introduced the subject of
>gendered theological constructs to the newsgroup.

Yes, I am the Big Introducer.

> I am the one who
>maintains that a god is (or is not) a god is (or is not) a god,

And also an imaginative notion. :)

>and that human gender categories are unlikely to apply.

Well it depends on your god.

>The Egyptians in the time of Amenhotep IV saw no contrdiction in
>describing the Sun God as the beneficent mother of gods and men.

So what? As I mentioned the gender of your god depends on your religion. I as
an atheist have a female god (monotheism) the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

>You have created a neologism in two languages. Is there a word for this?

Bineologism or genius. :)

>Among my relatives, sin is absolute. :-)

You mean, general. :)

In my sentence the opposite word for relative was subjective.

Peti

janelaw

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Petibacsi wrote:
>
> >Ellen:
> >Then are those who believe only in female gods to be described as
> >godless?
>
> You see, it took at least a minute when I saw your point. :)
>
> HM, I think the problem is that with the word god we still can refer to a
> genderless deity, or female deities without expressing their gender.
>
> So for me godless would be atheists.
>
>
I just don't think you can have it both ways. The word "god"
has to be either male or gender-neutral. If you use the word
"goddess" to distinguish female gods, then a "god" has to be
male. I guess this is the meta-him/her problem.

Bill McCray

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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I hope we can clear up this godesslessness mess.

Bill


Charles

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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The following was posted Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:04:09 GMT by the jungle
kitty <jki...@home.net>:

>Petibacsi wrote:
>>
>> Ellen, Ellen. :)
>>
>> >This is a vulgar error perpetrated by those who still conceive of
>> >the Deity as an old chap with a beard sitting on a cloud. There is
>> >no reason to suppose that God thinks of herself as "Goddess", anymore
>> >than a poet thinks of herself as a poetess or a doctor thinks of
>> >herself as a doctress.
>>

>> Why? A female actor can think of herself as actress???
>

>I have seen in print "authress" to describe a female writer. It's
>awkward to say the least. Ironically, I rarely see "comedienne" used to
>describe a female comedian.

hmmm, and some female comediennes are actually funny, too...

Serenleono

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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jus...@aol.com (JUST AN H) scripsit:

>It certainly is a mouthful!

Wait till we get to Mercedeseslessness. ;-)

Seren

Petibacsi

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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>Ellen:
>I nail my flag to the mast: masculine nouns and pronouns
>cannot be universal, unless feminine nouns and pronouns are also
>universal. I.e., you can't claim that god includes goddess unless you
>are prepared to grant that goddess also includes god.

Logically you are right. But we are sexual-sovinist pigs here. :)

>An invisible pink horse with a horn coming out of its forehead?
>Peti, that does not sound like a god to me, it sounds like delirium
>tremens.

Oh come on, you never heard of her? She even has websites. A blasphemy!!!
:)

> In my corner of the multiverse, the correlative of relative
>is absolute and the correlative of subjective is objective. Explain
>what you mean, pls?

In my corner of the universe you are right but we are talking philosophy her.

I mentioned objective morals and that is the philosophical equivalent of
absolute morals.That's what I meant.

Peti

the jungle kitty

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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Charles wrote:
>
> > The following was posted Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:04:09 GMT by the jungle
> > kitty <jki...@home.net>:
>
> >I have seen in print "authress" to describe a female writer. It's
> >awkward to say the least. Ironically, I rarely see "comedienne" used > >to describe a female comedian.
>
> hmmm, and some female comediennes are actually funny, too...

To say "female comediennes" is redundant, say.

My point had been that some people are eager to coin words and yet
ignore those that are readily accepted.


http://members.home.net/jkitty/inkhorn

Dale Houstman

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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"Goddesslessness" will become a word when Ergo Zormack is President:
it is a truly non-aesthetic toothchipper: But


How about "Goddesslessnessence"?

Dale H


Dale Houstman

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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Dale Houstman wrote:

> Or maybe "Goddesslessnessensitvitationality"


JUST AN H

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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> How about "Goddesslessnessence"?
>
>

My Goddess! That certainly is a "toothchipper!"

Pete

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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God encompasses both male and female - sort of an unknown. Another example
is man. Sometimes man is used to mean mankind, all men and women.

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> I was wondering (ok, I have too much time on my hand) what is the word
for
>the idea of people not believing in the existence of female gods.
>
> Since a female god is a goddess and without it I am goddessless, making
it a
>noun expressing the whole idea would be goddesslessness.
>
> OK maybe I am right logically but not by common sense grammar, although I
can
>even make up a meaningful sentence with the word:
>

> "People's goddesslessness is the reason why today's society doesn't
respect
>women as they should be."
>
> I wonder for you native English speakers how this word sounds?
>

> Peti

Opinicus

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Pete wrote in message ...

>God encompasses both male and female - sort of an unknown.
Or sort of like Elton John, perhaps.

Bob
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Serenleono

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Quoth Pete:

>> God encompasses both male and female - sort of an unknown.

"Opinicus" <tig...@doruk-net.tr> scripsit:

> Or sort of like Elton John, perhaps.

Michael Jackson comes to my mind. (God forbid it.)

Seren

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