does any know
experimenterX
I need to know
the difference in fluid pressure and air pressure to do work
I know fluid pressure can do more work but are they a formula to calculate
the difference.
Mr Ashley Clarke
"experimenterX" <thatdo...@donttry.com> wrote in message
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They certainly don`t do any work by themselves!
You won`t get a reply with that sort of broad questioning from any
boffins!
graphite
compress air, there is a formula about air pressure (based upon cc's, and
psi's), but, for hydraulics, that's another thing : a liquid is
"uncompressible", or, much less than air : wait a little, answer to my
questions, and i'll give you the needed formula's : what do you plan to do ?
(make your car "shaking", or "bouncing" with hydraulic bumpers ? that's
easy, with an industrial "plc" controller, lift a heavy weight ? it's the
same principle)...ith air pressure, they are more applications : compressor,
paint, pressure washing, cleaning, ... Say me what you exactly plan to do...
so, i can explain you the difference, but no more : for heavy charges, use
hydraulics, or, fluidics ("liquids"), for "less"(depends on pressure)
acurate power (inflating, cleaning, screwing, little bolts "tensionning",
even, "on-site" machining), use air, what do you want i explain you ? i made
an "off the shelf" compressor, and aerogrpah with a pump and, ... a "SICLI"
fire bottle from my car, with a security valve... what do you want to know
more of me ?
"Mr Ashley Clarke" <aclar...@toucansurf.com> a écrit dans le message de
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Mr Ashley Clarke
"graphite" <schmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, you`ve both lost me in this thread!
graphite
Clarke? Otherwise, i have only the formula's for horsepowers/cm3, and for
various fluids, but, for air, as i further explained, there's an "elastic
force" effect you have to calculate (like the pressure needed for an "air
rifle(like the piston-driven german "Diana model 50") , due to compression
of the air, or gas, that's not applicable for hydraulics (considered as
solids, or semisolids).news: 479138d3$4...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
gdew...@gmail.com
"You won`t get a reply with that sort of broad questioning from any
boffins!"
Clark, people will treat you like a petrochemical thought assassin if
you behave like that. Unless you make a lot of money with it I
wouldn't want to be on their side.
You do understand we need time to make this perpetual motion economy?
You do understand time is running out? So, unless you want everyone to
die, you may now give up on promoting this agenda of death. That would
be the Kosher thing to do for you I think? you can always piss off to
alt.septic if you only want to whine about things. :-) I'm sure they
will even appreciate it.
thanks,
Back on topic, I was thinking.
What about general drag? A small eclectic motor can run on 0.02 watt,
running it for 24 hours would use up 0.48 watt hours I'm guessing but
say 10 kg of iron absorbs 1 watt hour every 1 degree of temperature
change. Say we can turn 50% of that into motion. Wouldn't the results
allow for a bearing that keeps on spinning all by it self? If we would
make a windmill self rotate in this way it would be able to harvest
wind energy of any speed. It's not unthinkable to also use the heat
from the generator in this process. Cornelius Drebbel build a clock
like this 400 years ago. I'm sure we can manage to construct a bearing
that wants to keep on spinning.
The plan is to put sewage pipes against the wall. Seal them off and
hook them up creating a big hollow space. The last tube has a smaller
tube inside of it and some watter on the bottom. We fill a hose with
water and we run it from the bottom of the smaller inner tube out of
the system and back into the bottom of the outer tube. Water will now
flow though the hose all day. It's either going one way or the
other. :-)
Another implementation:
Now we are going to fix the radiator onto the tubes. The living room
cools down (water flows one direction) The heater fires up. (water
flows the other direction) The room is back up to temperature and the
heater shuts down (water flows back again) It might not look like much
but it depends on what you use the energy for. I would love to know
how much energy a meter of sewage tube makes per degree. To bad you
cant find a single physicist interested in harvesting energy in any
way. Einstein, Scientology and petrodollars all the way. haha
What are your thoughts on this?
On Jan 20, 2:46 am, "graphite" <schmitzj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you speak French to, or do i have to translate it for you, Mr Ashley
> Clarke? Otherwise, i have only the formula's for horsepowers/cm3, and for
> various fluids, but, for air, as i further explained, there's an "elastic
> force" effect you have to calculate (like the pressure needed for an "air
> rifle(like the piston-driven german "Diana model 50") , due to compression
> of the air, or gas, that's not applicable for hydraulics (considered as
> solids, or semisolids).
> "Mr Ashley Clarke" <aclarke2...@toucansurf.com> a écrit dans le message denews: 479138d3$__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>
>
> > "graphite" <schmitzj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:47910ecd$0$4401$bf49...@news.tele2.nl...
> >> Wait a little, i'm going to look , but i'm sure, pneumatics can, and may
> >> compress air, there is a formula about air pressure (based upon cc's, and
> >> psi's), but, for hydraulics, that's another thing : a liquid is
> >> "uncompressible", or, much less than air : wait a little, answer to my
> >> questions, and i'll give you the needed formula's : what do you plan to
> >> do ? (make your car "shaking", or "bouncing" with hydraulic bumpers ?
> >> that's easy, with an industrial "plc" controller, lift a heavy weight ?
> >> it's the same principle)...ith air pressure, they are more applications :
> >> compressor, paint, pressure washing, cleaning, ... Say me what you
> >> exactly plan to do... so, i can explain you the difference, but no more
> >> : for heavy charges, use hydraulics, or, fluidics ("liquids"), for
> >> "less"(depends on pressure) acurate power (inflating, cleaning, screwing,
> >> little bolts "tensionning", even, "on-site" machining), use air, what do
> >> you want i explain you ? i made an "off the shelf" compressor, and
> >> aerogrpah with a pump and, ... a "SICLI" fire bottle from my car, with a
> >> security valve... what do you want to know more of me ?
> >> "Mr Ashley Clarke" <aclarke2...@toucansurf.com> a écrit dans le message
> >> denews: 478fd502$__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> >>> "experimenterX" <thatdontw...@donttry.com> wrote in message
Mr A Clarke
<gdew...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"You won`t get a reply with that sort of broad questioning from any
boffins!"
> Clark, people will treat you like a petrochemical thought assassin if
> you behave like that. Unless you make a lot of money with it I
> wouldn't want to be on their side.
People don`t know what they want.
> You do understand we need time to make this perpetual motion economy?
Well I`ve cracked it. I just don`t see a use for it yet.
> You do understand time is running out?
I am selfish with what I have discovered.
> So, unless you want everyone to die,
Bah, they`ll do that anyway.
> you may now give up on promoting this agenda of death.
> That would be the Kosher thing to do for you I think?
Are you asking me to sue you for slander?
> you can always piss off to alt.septic if you only want to whine about
> things. :-) I'm sure they will even appreciate it.
You forget I even discovered this phenomena, why should I whine?
> thanks,
No thanks, you`re talking rubbish.