The Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term "National socialism"). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs <--- Obama/Dims too
CB
...
Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence
the term "National socialism"). They believed in free health care and
guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on
public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking,
supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free
market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were all
the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights
activist.
Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
...
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385511841
None4U
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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>people wont work anymore. Totalitarianism takes over to make them work.
>Then the nazi policies happen.
The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.
Margaret Thatcher.
Dr. Barry Worthington
> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> ...
> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence
> the term "National socialism").
Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>They believed in free health care and
> guaranteed jobs.
You mean 'free at the point of service'. So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
neither of these were socialists...
>They confiscated inherited wealth
Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
enemies).
>and spent vast sums on
> public education.
Of a kind....
>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
> every nook and cranny of daily life.
And what has this to do with socialism?
>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
>They loathed the free
> market,
Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose. Actually,
the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
Controls were pretty loose up till then.
>provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
> racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were all
> the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
> medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights
> activist.
He also liked cream cakes, but perhaps Mr. Goldberg thinks this is
also a socialist trait...
>
> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
Clearly.
Dr. Barry Worthington
> ...http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385511841
CB
"Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
>> ...
>> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
>> (hence
>> the term "National socialism").
>
> Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
>
>
>>They believed in free health care and
>> guaranteed jobs.
>
> You mean 'free at the point of service'.
I mean at the point of feeding ones family at the point gubment taxes more
of our labor for another corrupt/failed program
So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
> George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
> neither of these were socialists...
Pleeez go on
>
>
>
>>They confiscated inherited wealth
>
> Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
> enemies).
They even robbed the dead...after gassing them.
>
>
>>and spent vast sums on
>> public education.
>
> Of a kind....
Gubment skooz controlled information, disconnected faith in God to faith in
Uncle Adolph and now Obama...mmm...mmm...mmm...
>
>>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
>> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
>> every nook and cranny of daily life.
>
> And what has this to do with socialism?
Think AlGore and the Eco-fascist Carbon Tax in the House today! CAP and
Trade is another way to control America's Energy consumption and production
of goods, punishing the success of the well planned to gib to the UN to
distribute the way the elite see fit.
>
>
>>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
>> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
>
> I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
> obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>
>
>
>>They loathed the free
>> market,
>
> Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose.
Like Islamo-fascist, "convert or die" or escape to the west or Israel.
Actually,
> the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
> Controls were pretty loose up till then.
Incrementally instituted under crisis management ala...
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
--Rahm Emmanuel
With healthcare the media has been complicit in creating a crisis by
demonizing insurance companies, doctors for defensive medicine and
pharmaceutical companies for their profits
>
>
>>provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
>> racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were
>> all
>> the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
>> medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal
>> rights
>> activist.
>
> He also liked cream cakes, but perhaps Mr. Goldberg thinks this is
> also a socialist trait...
Not only will the medical socialists henceforth seize complete dominion over
who will and will not receive care, but the very manner in which such
statism is imposed will serve as a model for the complete eradication of
freedom from every aspect of life in this country.
--Obama Considers Real America 'The Enemy'
By Christopher G. Adamo
August 13, 2009
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/cadamo/2009/cga_08131.shtml
Once gubment controls healthcare services the Beast will dictate our
lifestyle without choice.
>
>>
>> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
>> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
>
> Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
messenger, make him out to be a fool?
--
CB
"I doubt whether there are many Americans who think Congress has either the
right or competency to choose where they live, what clothes they wear or
what cars they drive. Yet many Americans stand ready to allow Congress to
decide what doctors they go to and what treatments they receive. We forget
that once we have government-sponsored health care, it can be used to
justify almost any restraint on liberty." --Walter E. Williams
"Under Obamacare, our tax information and medical details will become
Obama's bedtime
reading. The details of your life will be shared like a joint and a hooker
in the
Democrat caucus. " -Rush
(Originally posted by AnAmericanCitizen)
Joe Steel
news:4ad5a3d9$0$4964$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com:
What "striking parallels?" These are unsupported assertions by a
babbling wingnut.
"Loathed the free market?" Where? How?
"Promoted a new form of pagan spirituality?" Such as Reagan worship?
They attacked small, defenseless countries and terror-bombed their
cities. How is that socialistic? It's what Bush did. Was Bush a
socialist?
--
Building a better American by hammering the right.
The Joe Steel Blog
http://thejoesteelblog.blogspot.com
Dr. Barry Worthington
> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in messagenews:8471bca9-440f-4e62...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> >> ...
> >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> >> (hence
> >> the term "National socialism").
>
> > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>
> Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
this context.
Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
Then you might get the point....
> >>They believed in free health care and
> >> guaranteed jobs.
>
> > You mean 'free at the point of service'.
>
> I mean at the point of feeding ones family at the point gubment taxes more
> of our labor for another corrupt/failed program
Please stop talking irrelevant crap. Kindly keep to the subject....
>
> So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
>
> > George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
> > neither of these were socialists...
>
> Pleeez go on
But you clearly don't understand the point.....
> >>They confiscated inherited wealth
>
> > Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
> > enemies).
>
> They even robbed the dead...after gassing them.
And did Krupp or Thyssen get gassed?
> >>and spent vast sums on
> >> public education.
>
> > Of a kind....
>
> Gubment skooz controlled information, disconnected faith in God to faith in
> Uncle Adolph and now Obama...mmm...mmm...mmm...
Are you....er....feeling all right? You seem to be gibbering and are
not making much sense...
> >>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> >> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
> >> every nook and cranny of daily life.
>
> > And what has this to do with socialism?
>
> Think AlGore and the Eco-fascist Carbon Tax in the House today! CAP and
> Trade is another way to control America's Energy consumption and production
> of goods, punishing the success of the well planned to gib to the UN to
> distribute the way the elite see fit.
I repeat. What has this to do with socialism? Or anything else, for
that matter?
> >>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> >> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
>
> > I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
> > obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
>
> Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> messenger, make him out to be a fool?
These obsessions have nothing to do with what most people understand
by socialism The messenger, in this case, needs pschyiatric help, not
a bullet...
> >>They loathed the free
> >> market,
>
> > Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose.
>
> Like Islamo-fascist, "convert or die" or escape to the west or Israel.
Sorry, but your reality is clearly quite different from mine.....
>
> Actually,
>
> > the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
> > Controls were pretty loose up till then.
>
> Incrementally instituted under crisis management ala...
>
> "Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
> --Rahm Emmanuel
We are talking about World War Two. The British economy was more
tightly controlled than the German.....
But I suppose you think that Churchill was a socialist.....
>
> With healthcare the media has been complicit in creating a crisis by
> demonizing insurance companies, doctors for defensive medicine and
> pharmaceutical companies for their profits
We aren't arguing about that issue. It has nothing to do with
socialism either....
> >>provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
> >> racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were
> >> all
> >> the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
> >> medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal
> >> rights
> >> activist.
>
> > He also liked cream cakes, but perhaps Mr. Goldberg thinks this is
> > also a socialist trait...
>
> Not only will the medical socialists henceforth seize complete dominion over
> who will and will not receive care, but the very manner in which such
> statism is imposed will serve as a model for the complete eradication of
> freedom from every aspect of life in this country.
> --Obama Considers Real America 'The Enemy'
> By Christopher G. Adamo
> August 13, 2009
> http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/cadamo/2009/cga_08131.shtml
Mr. Adamo (whoever he is) is talking crap as well......look, don't
read this stuff.....it will rot your brain and you will end up like
Matt Ogilvie.
> Once gubment controls healthcare services the Beast will dictate our
> lifestyle without choice.
The Beast?????? You really have flipped!
> >> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> >> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
>
> > Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
>
> Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> messenger, make him out to be a fool?
Look, Mr. Goldberg has written a book that is largely eschewd by the
academic press, since they regard it as a joke. Most serious reviewers
on this side of the Atlantic have panned it. He clearly does not
understand Wells's use of the term 'Liberal Fascism', and even the
author of the academic article that he lifted it from has made fun of
him.....
Dr. Barry Worthington
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:47:34 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>> Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
>>> Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>>
>>Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
>
>
> THe American Nation is "home", Barta.
So you see gubment as taking from the productive and gibing it to the
poor...except that gubment is so top heavy in beaurocracy that only .01% of
taxes ever 'trickle downs' to the community. By the time Community
Organizers take their cut there be nuttin left over.
That's duh fact, Jack
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7923/090819broke.jpg
>
> Not just the wealth and greedy class living in it.
Liberals have bred their base voters through Planned Parenthood, Secular
Humanist relative moral equality in single parenthood be as 'good' as a
loving married couple's 'family'
I don't care to reward the product of Liberalism's bastard chillins for
being slaves to gubment
>
> How else do you explain why the entire nation's wealth
> and status, and the Middle class ROSE after the
> Corporate and Wealth class were regulated and
> taxed--and businesses STILL thrived and grew huge?
>
Skilled labor, get some
CB
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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:11:35 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
>>(hence
>>the term "National socialism").
>
>
> Free enterprise was alive---and government BOUGHT every
> thing.
>
Heh...the irony of ignorance
Major Debacle
>> the term "National socialism").
>
>
> Free enterprise was alive---and government BOUGHT every
> thing.
>
And Dubya's grandfather lent them the money.
CB
On 14 Oct, 12:47, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> messagenews:8471bca9-440f-4e62...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> >> ...
> >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> >> (hence
> >> the term "National socialism").
>
> > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>
> Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
this context.
Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
Then you might get the point....
It isn't gubment's job to reward falure by being god and provider.
> >>They believed in free health care and
> >> guaranteed jobs.
>
> > You mean 'free at the point of service'.
>
> I mean at the point of feeding ones family at the point gubment taxes more
> of our labor for another corrupt/failed program
Please stop talking irrelevant crap. Kindly keep to the subject....
Nothing is fwee moron. The way Obama and Dims are going everyone will be on
welfare soon.
No one is buying and gubment isn't raking it in as the economy declines.
Stocks may be doing better but confidence isn't. Gubment isn't cutting back
and we've seen all household expences go up.
Just what does 'free at the point of service' mean to you? To me it's a
shell game to hide who really pays taxes.
>
> So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
>
> > George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
> > neither of these were socialists...
>
> Pleeez go on
But you clearly don't understand the point.....
Edumacate me rather than drop names as you know WTH you're talking about/
> >>They confiscated inherited wealth
>
> > Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
> > enemies).
>
> They even robbed the dead...after gassing them.
And did Krupp or Thyssen get gassed?
Were the Rockefellers?
> >>and spent vast sums on
> >> public education.
>
> > Of a kind....
>
> Gubment skooz controlled information, disconnected faith in God to faith
> in
> Uncle Adolph and now Obama...mmm...mmm...mmm...
Are you....er....feeling all right? You seem to be gibbering and are
not making much sense...
Obama is going down the same Socialist-fascist path as Germany!
The Treasure has been looted so the dollar means little. How long will it
take for Americas to eccept anything, anyone that will bring 'promise' and
'change' as with Hitler.
Remember it was Hitler's Brown Shirts that stirred up hatred for Jews (the
productive). Obama's Brown Shirts demonize Foxnews, healthcare, big oil, the
auto industry and banking. All to create crisis which they may offer the
Solution.
> >>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> >> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state
> >> into
> >> every nook and cranny of daily life.
>
> > And what has this to do with socialism?
I suppose it has more to due with the authoritarian arm of Socialism,
Fascism, the means of authority.
>
> Think AlGore and the Eco-fascist Carbon Tax in the House today! CAP and
> Trade is another way to control America's Energy consumption and
> production
> of goods, punishing the success of the well planned to gib to the UN to
> distribute the way the elite see fit.
I repeat. What has this to do with socialism? Or anything else, for
that matter?
I give up, you have no intellectual honesty about the morally relative
comparison of how Hitler came to power and how Obama is seeking control of
Healt'cay and devaluing the dollar.
> >>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> >> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
>
> > I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
> > obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
>
> Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> messenger, make him out to be a fool?
These obsessions have nothing to do with what most people understand
by socialism The messenger, in this case, needs pschyiatric help, not
a bullet...
> >>They loathed the free
> >> market,
>
> > Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose.
>
> Like Islamo-fascist, "convert or die" or escape to the west or Israel.
Sorry, but your reality is clearly quite different from mine.....
Coming from a useful idiot I have no doubt.
I've said before, either people escaped Germeny, were murdered or
cooperated.
You seem to think Hitler was loved and his policies too.
>
> Actually,
>
> > the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
> > Controls were pretty loose up till then.
>
> Incrementally instituted under crisis management ala...
>
> "Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
> --Rahm Emmanuel
We are talking about World War Two. The British economy was more
tightly controlled than the German.....
We're talking about the analogy between how Hitler came to power through...
From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
...
Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence
the term "National socialism"). They believed in free health care and
guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on
public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking,
supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free
market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were all
the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights
activist.
Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
...
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385511841
But I suppose you think that Churchill was a socialist.....
No comment
>
> With healthcare the media has been complicit in creating a crisis by
> demonizing insurance companies, doctors for defensive medicine and
> pharmaceutical companies for their profits
We aren't arguing about that issue. It has nothing to do with
socialism either....
The 'means' by which Obama gains power over industries is to create a crisis
which Fascists...
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
--Rahm Emmanuel
> >>provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
> >> racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes
> >> were
> >> all
> >> the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
> >> medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal
> >> rights
> >> activist.
>
> > He also liked cream cakes, but perhaps Mr. Goldberg thinks this is
> > also a socialist trait...
>
> Not only will the medical socialists henceforth seize complete dominion
> over
> who will and will not receive care, but the very manner in which such
> statism is imposed will serve as a model for the complete eradication of
> freedom from every aspect of life in this country.
> --Obama Considers Real America 'The Enemy'
> By Christopher G. Adamo
> August 13, 2009
> http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/cadamo/2009/cga_08131.shtml
Mr. Adamo (whoever he is) is talking crap as well......look, don't
read this stuff.....it will rot your brain and you will end up like
Matt Ogilvie.
Hence comes, The Fairness Doctrine?
> Once gubment controls healthcare services the Beast will dictate our
> lifestyle without choice.
The Beast?????? You really have flipped!
> >> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> >> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial
> >> order?
>
> > Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
>
> Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> messenger, make him out to be a fool?
Look, Mr. Goldberg has written a book that is largely eschewd by the
academic press, since they regard it as a joke. Most serious reviewers
on this side of the Atlantic have panned it. He clearly does not
understand Wells's use of the term 'Liberal Fascism', and even the
author of the academic article that he lifted it from has made fun of
him.....
Dr. Barry Worthington
Obama 'is' another Hitler wannabee with a better smile
Dr. Barry Worthington
> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in messagenews:23fc880a-9b47-4c5f...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 Oct, 12:47, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> > messagenews:8471bca9-440f-4e62...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> > >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> > >> ...
> > >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> > >> (hence
> > >> the term "National socialism").
>
> > > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> > > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>
> > Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
>
> What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
> your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
> this context.
>
> Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
> Then you might get the point....
>
> It isn't gubment's job to reward falure by being god and provider.
Neurons not working so good today? Or are you congenitally incapable
of conducting a logical argument?
>
> > >>They believed in free health care and
> > >> guaranteed jobs.
>
> > > You mean 'free at the point of service'.
>
> > I mean at the point of feeding ones family at the point gubment taxes more
> > of our labor for another corrupt/failed program
>
> Please stop talking irrelevant crap. Kindly keep to the subject....
>
> Nothing is fwee moron. The way Obama and Dims are going everyone will be on
> welfare soon.
Welfare!!!!! Irony in spades....
>
> No one is buying and gubment isn't raking it in as the economy declines.
>
> Stocks may be doing better but confidence isn't. Gubment isn't cutting back
> and we've seen all household expences go up.
I'm sure someone is interested in your pearls of wisdom about the
eAmerican conomy, but can we stick to the subject?
>
> Just what does 'free at the point of service' mean to you? To me it's a
> shell game to hide who really pays taxes.
It means 'free at the point of service', implying that the financial
burden of paying for health is cushioned by the working population as
a whole. You have a problem with that?
> > So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
>
> > > George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
> > > neither of these were socialists...
>
> > Pleeez go on
>
> But you clearly don't understand the point.....
>
> Edumacate me rather than drop names as you know WTH you're talking about/
Can't you do your own research? Look, these people all supported
national health schemes, but none of them were fascists or socialists.
Doesn't that defeat your argument?
>
> > >>They confiscated inherited wealth
>
> > > Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
> > > enemies).
>
> > They even robbed the dead...after gassing them.
>
> And did Krupp or Thyssen get gassed?
>
> Were the Rockefellers?
I'm not aware that they lived in Nazi Germany....
>
> > >>and spent vast sums on
> > >> public education.
>
> > > Of a kind....
>
> > Gubment skooz controlled information, disconnected faith in God to faith
> > in
> > Uncle Adolph and now Obama...mmm...mmm...mmm...
>
> Are you....er....feeling all right? You seem to be gibbering and are
> not making much sense...
>
> Obama is going down the same Socialist-fascist path as Germany!
>
> The Treasure has been looted so the dollar means little. How long will it
> take for Americas to eccept anything, anyone that will bring 'promise' and
> 'change' as with Hitler.
>
> Remember it was Hitler's Brown Shirts that stirred up hatred for Jews (the
> productive). Obama's Brown Shirts demonize Foxnews, healthcare, big oil, the
> auto industry and banking. All to create crisis which they may offer the
> Solution.
Are you channeling Rush Limbaugh? Is he dead or something?
>
> > >>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> > >> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state
> > >> into
> > >> every nook and cranny of daily life.
>
> > > And what has this to do with socialism?
>
> I suppose it has more to due with the authoritarian arm of Socialism,
> Fascism, the means of authority.
Nothing.
> > Think AlGore and the Eco-fascist Carbon Tax in the House today! CAP and
> > Trade is another way to control America's Energy consumption and
> > production
> > of goods, punishing the success of the well planned to gib to the UN to
> > distribute the way the elite see fit.
>
> I repeat. What has this to do with socialism? Or anything else, for
> that matter?
>
> I give up, you have no intellectual honesty about the morally relative
> comparison of how Hitler came to power and how Obama is seeking control of
> Healt'cay and devaluing the dollar.
I can tell you a great deal about Hitler. I have read Bullock and
Kershaw, some German historians, and parts of Mein Kampf. I used to
lecture in Modern History.
> > >>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> > >> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
>
> > > I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
> > > obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
>
> > Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> > messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>
> These obsessions have nothing to do with what most people understand
> by socialism The messenger, in this case, needs pschyiatric help, not
> a bullet...
>
> > >>They loathed the free
> > >> market,
>
> > > Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose.
>
> > Like Islamo-fascist, "convert or die" or escape to the west or Israel.
>
> Sorry, but your reality is clearly quite different from mine.....
>
> Coming from a useful idiot I have no doubt.
You are calling me an idiot?
>
> I've said before, either people escaped Germeny, were murdered or
> cooperated.
>
> You seem to think Hitler was loved and his policies too.
By some people, he was. Still is, in fact....
> > Actually,
>
> > > the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
> > > Controls were pretty loose up till then.
>
> > Incrementally instituted under crisis management ala...
>
> > "Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
> > --Rahm Emmanuel
>
> We are talking about World War Two. The British economy was more
> tightly controlled than the German.....
>
> We're talking about the analogy between how Hitler came to power through...
Hitler was invited to form a government supported by Conservative and
Nationalist Parties in the Reichstag, and was backed by a consortium
of industrialists. He was never elected into power (the Nazi share of
the vote was declining).
>
> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> ...
> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence
> the term "National socialism"). They believed in free health care and
> guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on
> public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into
> every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free
> market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict
> racial quota system in their universities-where campus speech codes were all
> the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative
> medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights
> activist.
>
> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?
> ...http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385511841
>
> But I suppose you think that Churchill was a socialist.....
>
> No comment
Why have you cut the context to this statement? Is it inconvenient to
you?
What would you know about fairness?
>
> > Once gubment controls healthcare services the Beast will dictate our
> > lifestyle without choice.
>
> The Beast?????? You really have flipped!
>
> > >> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> > >> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial
> > >> order?
>
> > > Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
>
> > Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> > messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>
> Look, Mr. Goldberg has written a book that is largely eschewd by the
> academic press, since they regard it as a joke. Most serious reviewers
> on this side of the Atlantic have panned it. He clearly does not
> understand Wells's use of the term 'Liberal Fascism', and even the
> author of the academic article that he lifted it from has made fun of
> him.....
>
> Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> Obama 'is' another Hitler wannabee with a better smile
You don't know what I'm talking about, do you? My criticism of
Goldberg went completely over your head.
Before you post this crap, at least try to understand it....
Dr. Barry Worthington
>
>
> > --
> > CB
> > "I doubt whether there are many Americans who think Congress has either
> > the
> > right or competency to choose where they live, what clothes they wear or
> > what cars they drive. Yet many Americans stand ready to allow Congress to
> > decide what doctors they go to and what treatments they receive. We forget
> > that once we have government-sponsored health care, it can be used to
> > justify almost any restraint on liberty." --Walter E. Williams
>
> > "Under Obamacare, our tax information and medical details will become
> > Obama's bedtime
> > reading. The details of your life will be shared like a joint and a hooker
> > in the
> > Democrat caucus. " -Rush
>
> > (Originally posted by AnAmericanCitizen)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
CB
On 14 Oct, 16:28, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> messagenews:23fc880a-9b47-4c5f...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 Oct, 12:47, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> > messagenews:8471bca9-440f-4e62...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> > >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> > >> ...
> > >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> > >> (hence
> > >> the term "National socialism").
>
> > > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> > > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
>
> > Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
>
> What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
> your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
> this context.
>
> Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
> Then you might get the point....
>
> It isn't gubment's job to reward falure by being god and provider.
Neurons not working so good today? Or are you congenitally incapable
of conducting a logical argument?
I know being stupid may work with your mommy but with others it only
reflects your intellect
There isn't any argument to make, gubment 'will not' bakrupt America any
further.
No more welfare!
>
> > >>They believed in free health care and
> > >> guaranteed jobs.
>
> > > You mean 'free at the point of service'.
>
> > I mean at the point of feeding ones family at the point gubment taxes
> > more
> > of our labor for another corrupt/failed program
>
> Please stop talking irrelevant crap. Kindly keep to the subject...
>
> Nothing is fwee moron. The way Obama and Dims are going everyone will be
> on
> welfare soon.
Welfare!!!!! Irony in spades....
Is that a wathist statement?
>
> No one is buying and gubment isn't raking it in as the economy declines.
>
> Stocks may be doing better but confidence isn't. Gubment isn't cutting
> back
> and we've seen all household expences go up.
I'm sure someone is interested in your pearls of wisdom about the
eAmerican conomy, but can we stick to the subject?
And what would you like to change it to, oh shallow one?
>
> Just what does 'free at the point of service' mean to you? To me it's a
> shell game to hide who really pays taxes.
It means 'free at the point of service', implying that the financial
burden of paying for health is cushioned by the working population as
a whole. You have a problem with that?
Big Time!
Government has always been the problem, not insurance companies.
The elephant in the room of socialized healt'cay is the inability to shop
the 350+ providers. In no Dim lead bill has there ever been a provision to
shop across state lines. Congress will not allow competition because it will
bring down costs. Dims want to control premiums because they will have
access to the $$$.
> > So did Bismark. So did Lloyd
>
> > > George. So did William Beveridge. Neithere of these were fascists, and
> > > neither of these were socialists...
>
> > Pleeez go on
>
> But you clearly don't understand the point.....
>
> Edumacate me rather than drop names as you know WTH you're talking about/
Can't you do your own research? Look, these people all supported
national health schemes, but none of them were fascists or socialists.
Doesn't that defeat your argument?
Not when Nazis used the Fascist authoritarian arm of enforcement. You think
ALL companies eagerly wanted to profit off the Holocaust?
You're delusional. It was either cooperate or find your self covered in
lime.
>
> > >>They confiscated inherited wealth
>
> > > Which they did not (unless you are talking about Jews and political
> > > enemies).
>
> > They even robbed the dead...after gassing them.
>
> And did Krupp or Thyssen get gassed?
>
> Were the Rockefellers?
I'm not aware that they lived in Nazi Germany....
...
Nazi Germany is where the Bush family fortune came from, and where the
Harrimans, and the Rockefellers increased their fortunes to obscene
proportions.
...
http://hubpages.com/hub/The_Bush-Nazi_scandal_by_John_Loftus_former_Federal_Prosecutor
>
> > >>and spent vast sums on
> > >> public education.
>
> > > Of a kind....
>
> > Gubment skooz controlled information, disconnected faith in God to faith
> > in
> > Uncle Adolph and now Obama...mmm...mmm...mmm...
>
> Are you....er....feeling all right? You seem to be gibbering and are
> not making much sense...
>
> Obama is going down the same Socialist-fascist path as Germany!
>
> The Treasure has been looted so the dollar means little. How long will it
> take for Americas to eccept anything, anyone that will bring 'promise' and
> 'change' as with Hitler.
>
> Remember it was Hitler's Brown Shirts that stirred up hatred for Jews (the
> productive). Obama's Brown Shirts demonize Foxnews, healthcare, big oil,
> the
> auto industry and banking. All to create crisis which they may offer the
> Solution.
Are you channeling Rush Limbaugh? Is he dead or something?
The analogy is strikingly accurate
>
> > >>They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new
> > >> form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state
> > >> into
> > >> every nook and cranny of daily life.
>
> > > And what has this to do with socialism?
>
> I suppose it has more to due with the authoritarian arm of Socialism,
> Fascism, the means of authority.
Nothing.
> > Think AlGore and the Eco-fascist Carbon Tax in the House today! CAP and
> > Trade is another way to control America's Energy consumption and
> > production
> > of goods, punishing the success of the well planned to gib to the UN to
> > distribute the way the elite see fit.
>
> I repeat. What has this to do with socialism? Or anything else, for
> that matter?
>
> I give up, you have no intellectual honesty about the morally relative
> comparison of how Hitler came to power and how Obama is seeking control of
> Healt'cay and devaluing the dollar.
I can tell you a great deal about Hitler. I have read Bullock and
Kershaw, some German historians, and parts of Mein Kampf. I used to
lecture in Modern History.
Of all people YOU should be able to see history is repeating its self
> > >>The Nazis declared war on smoking,
> > >> supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control.
>
> > > I take it that Mr. Golberg is an American nutter. These are their
> > > obsessions, and have nothing to do with socialism.
>
> > Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> > messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>
> These obsessions have nothing to do with what most people understand
> by socialism The messenger, in this case, needs pschyiatric help, not
> a bullet...
>
> > >>They loathed the free
> > >> market,
>
> > > Which is why German capitalists supported them, I suppose.
>
> > Like Islamo-fascist, "convert or die" or escape to the west or Israel.
>
> Sorry, but your reality is clearly quite different from mine.....
>
> Coming from a useful idiot I have no doubt.
You are calling me an idiot?
Heh...sorry but in denying the paralells of how Hitler gained power through
demonizing Capitalism/industry/Jews and how Obama is demonizing big
everthing Capitialist (the new Jew) while promoting gubment controlled
healthcare (no compitition in Congressional bills that would allow 350+
insurance companies to sell across state lines)...is rather lame or someone
as learnd'd as you on Hitler/Nazi.
>
> I've said before, either people escaped Germeny, were murdered or
> cooperated.
>
> You seem to think Hitler was loved and his policies too.
By some people, he was. Still is, in fact....
Freudian Slip there Herr Doctor?
> > Actually,
>
> > > the German economy was not placed on a full war footing until 1942.
> > > Controls were pretty loose up till then.
>
> > Incrementally instituted under crisis management ala...
>
> > "Never let a serious crisis go to waste ."
> > --Rahm Emmanuel
>
> We are talking about World War Two. The British economy was more
> tightly controlled than the German.....
>
> We're talking about the analogy between how Hitler came to power
> through...
Hitler was invited to form a government supported by Conservative and
Nationalist Parties in the Reichstag,
He stirred the masses with hate for Jew and disgruntled workers who thought
their mean ole boss could use some 'enlightenment'
and was backed by a consortium
of industrialists.
There we part ways. Hitler was for the little guy, he demonized big bidniz,
finding his home in the German Socialist Workers Party.
He was never elected into power (the Nazi share of
the vote was declining).
Correct: Through Brown Shirts terrorizing everyone, blaming it on the filthy
Jew, Hitler proposed the Final Solution and the people, out of desperation
the people agreed because Hitler offered 'Hope and Change'.
It's inconsequential as far as I was concerned. If you think it's worth
chatting about we can.
What's the question?
May the best ideas, religion, talk shows, Energy production and insitutional
systems of government win on their own merit
>
> > Once gubment controls healthcare services the Beast will dictate our
> > lifestyle without choice.
>
> The Beast?????? You really have flipped!
You don't believe in Evil?
You don't believe if Barney Fwank types get control of healthcare,
capitalists will be forced to change for the betterment of duh masses
health?
Polices will be written to force children and adults to take flu
vaccinations and even have Digital Angle's chip implanted so as to better
serve personal care.
>
> > >> Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
> > >> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial
> > >> order?
>
> > > Does this mean Mr. Goldberg is an idiot?
>
> > Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
> > messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>
> Look, Mr. Goldberg has written a book that is largely eschewd by the
> academic press, since they regard it as a joke. Most serious reviewers
> on this side of the Atlantic have panned it. He clearly does not
> understand Wells's use of the term 'Liberal Fascism', and even the
> author of the academic article that he lifted it from has made fun of
> him.....
>
> Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> Obama 'is' another Hitler wannabee with a better smile
You don't know what I'm talking about, do you? My criticism of
Goldberg went completely over your head.
Maybe
Before you post this crap, at least try to understand it....
Axe me again
I needs to get to the doctor, I have a cold or something, been out of work
all week...later
Dr. Barry Worthington
Dumbed Down Opies
"None4U" <nos...@nospam.none> wrote in message
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Did she tell Reagan and Bush that over Wall Street frat-boys?
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:37:45 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Barry
> Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Did you learn that from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals?" Attack the
>>> messenger, make him out to be a fool?
>>
>>Look, Mr. Goldberg has written a book that is largely eschewd by the
>>academic press, since they regard it as a joke.
>
> "compassionate conservatism" as the guiding "light" of
> social policy.
Who dat?
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:39:48 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>> THe American Nation is "home", Barta.
>>
>>So you see gubment as taking from the productive and gibing it to the
>>poor.
>
>
> The poor pay MORE of their income in taxation than the
> top 5%.
>
> The everyday taxes a working poor pays isn't
> recoverable for the most part.
>
> If you're salary and bonuses tally up to $200
> Million---you sure as shit don't pay squat on them.
That's right, they're paid by suckers (consumers) who demonize them so
Congress will tax'm even moe.
CB
"Harry Farkas" <hfa...@wowway.com> wrote in message
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>
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> news:4ad5a3d9$0$4964$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?**
>
>
> Yeah sure, that's exactly what they teach us in Liberal Sunday School.
Here I thought all Libs worshipped at the Secular Temple of Relative Moral
equality. They're main tenant being Goodness and Evil have equality.
And if by chance Goodness looks to be winning, send in the EOC to impose
quotas, Bell Curves and gibs benefit of doubt to Saddamn...I mean the
Deceiver.
I
> think you have us confused with the Republicans and posters to this
> newsgroup.
I know my target audience
--
CB
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-- Winston Churchill
None4U
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:39:02 -0400, "None4U"
> <nos...@nospam.none> wrote:
>
>>The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples
>>money.
>>Margaret Thatcher.
>
> as Lewinsky's friend) is lying
>
> Nazis were capitalistic, allowed free enterprise, paid
> industry for what they used to conduct war.
>
> Just like we do.
>
Youre a liar. Their currency was worthless due to hyper inflation, And
nobody would sell them anything . They across the board froze inflation
and wiped one zero from all transactions to make buying a loaf of bread
possible with out a wheelbarrow full of Marks. I know for a fact because my
exs parents were there and are still alive collecting German government
pensions for working during the whole war for not one cent of pay. The
government had to trade gold robbed from its citizens first, then Jews ,
And were turned into gold bars to sell to Switzerland to finance their
war. There wasnt a capitalistic thing about it. It was Socialism turned
totalitarian.
Bob LeChevalier
>> **Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal
>> maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order?**
>>
>>
>> Yeah sure, that's exactly what they teach us in Liberal Sunday School.
>
>Here I thought
No you didn't You babbled.
> I
>> think you have us confused with the Republicans and posters to this
>> newsgroup.
>
>I know my target audience
People as stupid as you?
lojbab
---
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
RichTravsky
> <La...@alot.com> wrote in message
> > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:47:34 -0400, "CB"
> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >>> Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> >>> Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
> >>
> >>Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
> >
> > Exactly
> >
> > THe American Nation is "home", Barta.
>
> So you see gubment as taking from the productive and gibing it to the
> poor...except that gubment is so top heavy in beaurocracy that only .01% of
> taxes ever 'trickle downs' to the community. By the time Community
> Organizers take their cut there be nuttin left over.
Give back the generator.
> That's duh fact, Jack
> http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7923/090819broke.jpg
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter" - Chickenhawk Cheney
> > Not just the wealth and greedy class living in it.
>
> Liberals have bred their base voters through Planned Parenthood, Secular
> Humanist relative moral equality in single parenthood be as 'good' as a
> loving married couple's 'family'
>
> I don't care to reward the product of Liberalism's bastard chillins for
> being slaves to gubment
Con-servatives have their base in superstitious hick trailer parks who
raise slut daughters.
> > How else do you explain why the entire nation's wealth
> > and status, and the Middle class ROSE after the
> > Corporate and Wealth class were regulated and
> > taxed--and businesses STILL thrived and grew huge?
> >
> Skilled labor, get some
English, learn some.
RT
RichTravsky
> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> >>(hence
> >>the term "National socialism").
> >
> > Had nothing to do with economics.
> >
> > Free enterprise was alive---and government BOUGHT every
> > thing.
> >
>
> Heh...the irony of ignorance
Seen Schindler's list?
RichTravsky
Tell us all about that:
http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/ethel/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg
> And if by chance Goodness looks to be winning, send in the EOC to impose
> quotas, Bell Curves and gibs benefit of doubt to Saddamn...I mean the
> Deceiver.
No, we'll send a republicon:
http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/ethel/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg
> I
> > think you have us confused with the Republicans and posters to this
> > newsgroup.
>
> I know my target audience
"I be not ignant, I be a conservative" - CB
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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So not only do you get your news from the guy who got a chill up his leg
over Mr Wee Wee, you getz it from VH1, VH1, BET, SNL, The Comedy Channel and
now you now getz it from Hollywood?
Here's a flick you might like
--
CB
Liberal DimocRAT Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic
It gets good @ 4:20 in
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Hows that healt'cay coming along?
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:21:59 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>Liberal DimocRAT Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
>
> South. The Nazi Government adopted them
>
Dim Libs ran unaposed (think Tennessee and the Gore Dynasty) down sout foe
genrations you wathist
CB
Republican Advancement of Civil Rights (Thank you Rosemary)
Here's a mini list of Republican advances in civil rights. Do you have any
to add?
Wanna debate my list?
Abraham Lincoln emancipated the slaves
1866: first civil rights act passed by Radical Republicans over a
Presidential veto, blacks granted citizenship, segregation was forbidden
1868 Republicans passed the 14th amendment passed granting equal protection
1871 Republicans passed voting rights
Theodore Roosevelt was the first President to invite an African-American to
dinner in the White House.
1920s, the Democratic platforms didn't even call for anti-lynching
legislation as the Republican platforms did.
1957 civil rights act pushed by Ike, passed . Sen Kennedy voted against it,
A Democrat Senator filibustered it for 24 hrs, Senator Johnson watered it
down so that it lacked enforcement
Eisenhower sent Federal troops to Little Rock to integrate Central High
1960 another civil rights act, again Dems kept enforcement measures out of
it
1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Over eighty percent of
Republicans voted for both.
Nixon created the EEOC and expanded civil rights law.
Ronald Reagan signed the bill making MLK day a public holiday
Today the three highest ranking black government officials are all
Republicans (Powell, Rice and Thomas)
What have the Democrats, as a group, done for civil rights?
http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/000599.html
Thank You Rosemary
Bob LeChevalier
>Dim Libs ran unaposed (think Tennessee and the Gore Dynasty) down sout foe
>genrations you wathist
The Southern Democrats weren't "liberals" for generations, idiot. The
Republicans were the liberals until they split from Teddy Roosevelt
(who became a Progressive).
>Wanna debate my list?
>
>
>Abraham Lincoln emancipated the slaves
Liberal, supported a strong central government, massive public
spending on infrastructure, opposed states' rights on key issues.
>1866: first civil rights act passed by Radical Republicans over a
>Presidential veto, blacks granted citizenship, segregation was forbidden
Radical liberals
>1868 Republicans passed the 14th amendment passed granting equal protection
>
>
>1871 Republicans passed voting rights
Radical liberals
>Theodore Roosevelt was the first President to invite an African-American to
>dinner in the White House.
Progressive liberal.
RichTravsky
> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in message
> On 14 Oct, 12:47, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> > >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> > >> ...
> > >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> > >> (hence
> > >> the term "National socialism").
> >
> > > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> > > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
> >
> > Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
>
> What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
> your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
> this context.
>
> Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
> Then you might get the point....
>
> It isn't gubment's job to reward falure by being god and provider.
Give back the generator.
RichTravsky
No more generators!
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> <La...@alot.com> wrote in message
> >> > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:11:35 -0400, "CB"
> >> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> >> >>(hence
> >> >>the term "National socialism").
> >> >
> >> > Had nothing to do with economics.
> >> >
> >> > Free enterprise was alive---and government BOUGHT every
> >> > thing.
> >>
> >> Heh...the irony of ignorance
> >
> > Seen Schindler's list?
>
> So not only do you get your news from the guy who got a chill up his leg
> over Mr Wee Wee, you getz it from VH1, VH1, BET, SNL, The Comedy Channel and
> now you now getz it from Hollywood?
>
> Here's a flick you might like
Schindler's List is a true story (from the book "Schindler's Ark").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindler%27s_List
Schindler's List is a 1993 American drama film about Oskar Schindler, a German
businessman who saved the lives of more than a thousand Polish Jewish refugees
during the Holocaust by employing them in his factories.
The point is Schindler was a capitalist. He made a profit.
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
How are the English lessons coming along?
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
What do you suppose would have happened to Schindler if Schindler's 'list'
made it to the desk of your buddy Adolph?
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Hey DA, if the program wasn't there to be reimbursed for only 25% of the
purchase price I still would have bought it.
It's like any program that gubment has. If it wasn't there people would
still function and thrive.
When gubment builds a program, people will come.
Do not build it and the tax paying people are able to save and gubment is
forced to do without.
RichTravsky
Duh, that's why it was secret, duh? And thanks for admitting capitalism and
free enterprise were active .
RT
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >> On 14 Oct, 12:47, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> > "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote in
> >> > > On 14 Oct, 11:11, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> > >> From: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
> >> > >> ...
> >> > >> Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists
> >> > >> (hence
> >> > >> the term "National socialism").
> >> >
> >> > > Perhaps Mr. Goldberg has never met a German Christian
> >> > > Socialist....Perhaps Mr. Golberg is a political illiterate....
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps you've never heard of "charity begins at home"
> >>
> >> What is this supposed to mean? You might as well say "kindly adjust
> >> your dress before leaving." Both expressions are quite meaningless in
> >> this context.
> >>
> >> Why don't you look up the (mainly Bavarian) Christian Socialist party.
> >> Then you might get the point....
> >>
> >> It isn't gubment's job to reward falure by being god and provider.
> >
> > Give back the generator.
>
> Hey DA, if the program wasn't there to be reimbursed for only 25% of the
> purchase price I still would have bought it.
Hypocrite.
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
And iff Schindler was uncooperative with your buddy? He'd end up face down
in a trench.
Something you're unwilling to admit, coward.
>
> RT
CB
>
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> any of that?
How do you think it all got passed? We supported it ALL by elected
Conservitive Republicans.who do believe in 'equal rights'.
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:00:46 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>> And would any of today's Republicans - you, for example - have supported
>>> any of that?
>>
>>How do you think it all got passed? We supported it ALL by elected
>>Conservitive Republicans.who do believe in 'equal rights'.
>
>
> Everything was OPPOSED by conservatives
>
> The republican party of TODAY is yesterdays
> conservative southern democrats
>
> Conservatives did NOT support anything.
>
Go away liar.
The facts do not lie
CB
<La...@alot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:26:22 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>> Duh, that's why it was secret, duh? And thanks for admitting capitalism
>>> and
>>> free enterprise were active .
>>
>>And iff Schindler was uncooperative with your buddy? He'd end up face down
>>in a trench.
>
>
> Germans were free to engage in Business and capitalism
>
> They did so willingly
>
> There were not socialist.
Go away liar
RichTravsky
Notice how CB runs from his claim that the nazis were anti capitalism.
RT
RichTravsky
> >> and
> >> free enterprise were active .
> >
> >And iff Schindler was uncooperative with your buddy? He'd end up face down
> >in a trench.
>
He got whipped - again - and is trying to change the focus.
RichTravsky
> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Duh, that's why it was secret, duh? And thanks for admitting capitalism
> >>> and
> >>> free enterprise were active .
> >>
> >>And iff Schindler was uncooperative with your buddy? He'd end up face down
> >>in a trench.
> >
> > Not the point, Barta
> >
> > Germans were free to engage in Business and capitalism
> >
> > They did so willingly
> >
> > There were not socialist.
>
> Go away liar
Feel free to show the lie ->
RichTravsky
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>> The point is Schindler was a capitalist. He made a profit.
>
>What do you suppose would have happened to Schindler if Schindler's 'list'
>made it to the desk of your buddy Adolph?
CB believes in rassenschande (race shame) - making him Adolf's buddy.
RT
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
God you two are stupid. I never said they were anti-Capitalists. You're
obsessing on your own projection
You said Schindler and all who helped your buddy Hitler willingly cooperated
and I said yeah, at the end of a barrel. That's all I said.
You seemed to think Hitler's victims cooperated out of greed (for a few
sure), I said if Capitalists didn't cooperate or escape Hitler they would
end up in a lime bath in a trench. Defying Hitler meant death or a
concentration camp.
Hitler was a Socialist, he believed like Oboobuh that gubment 'is' god and
as such is the ultimate authority in doling out economic rights to make
money according to the dictates of the state.
Without God there's no inalienable rights of freedom to succeed unless
you're one of the elite.
Go obsess on that
RichTravsky
Yes, you did.
They loathed the free market
> You said Schindler and all who helped your buddy Hitler willingly cooperated
> and I said yeah, at the end of a barrel. That's all I said.
I said Schindler was a capitalist. Who saved Jews. Since you believe in race
shame like Hitler did, he's your buddy.
> You seemed to think Hitler's victims cooperated out of greed (for a few
> sure), I said if Capitalists didn't cooperate or escape Hitler they would
> end up in a lime bath in a trench. Defying Hitler meant death or a
> concentration camp.
What you said was squirming to get out of your lies.
> Hitler was a Socialist, he believed like Oboobuh that gubment 'is' god and
> as such is the ultimate authority in doling out economic rights to make
> money according to the dictates of the state.
Would your buddy Adolf help you with that generator?
> Without God there's no inalienable rights of freedom to succeed unless
> you're one of the elite.
>
> Go obsess on that
Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
RT
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt
and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
So true with what's going on in Washington today and in the Islamic world
where the Deceiver is king
>
> RT
Bob LeChevalier
>> Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
>
>God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
>
>Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt
>and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
What does virtue have to do with God?
Specifically, where in the Bible does it say that the people of God
are virtuous? Especially in the New Testament, the focus is on the
fact that people are sinners, every single one of them.
So Franklin's dictum is entirely inapplicable to any follower of
traditional Christianity, because it would imply that no one is
capable of freedom.
>So true with what's going on in Washington today and in the Islamic world
>where the Deceiver is king
You are certainly an expert on the Decieiver, since you follow him in
practice on a daily basis.
Unfortunately, you are not an expert on either Washington or the
Islamic world.
lojbab
---
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
Conan the bacterium
> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4AE7BA4F...@hotmMOVEail.com...
>
>
>
> > CB wrote:
> >> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> > CB wrote:
> >> >> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > CB wrote:
> >> >> >> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > CB wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > CB wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> <L...@alot.com> wrote in message
Seems to me God said something else about
nations and their masters:
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing
authorities. For there is no authority except from
God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by
God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the
ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring
judgment on themselves.
(Romans 13)
Conan
CB
"Conan the bacterium" <deinococcus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Did you think I didn't know the rest?
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that
which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is
the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
The 10 Commandments are in there too
Listen, I wouldn't have you be ignorant, brother
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/romans_13.html
Conan the bacterium
> "Conan the bacterium" <deinococcus0radiodur...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:7432fd88-ade9-4a42...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Oh, I was entirely confident that you
would recognize the passage.
In fact, that i's exactly what leaves me wondering
why you violate it with virtually everything
you post here.
Conan
>
> 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that
> which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is
> the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
>
> The 10 Commandments are in there too
>
> Listen, I wouldn't have you be ignorant, brotherhttp://www.audio-bible.com/bible/romans_13.html
Topaz
Capitalism and Communism are both bad. The problem with
capitalism is that it puts no special value on people. Capitalism is
based on supply and demand. A capitalist company that made potato
chips for example would need--X number of potatoes, Y amount of salt,
and Z number of human beings for labor. The human beings have no more
value than the potatoes or the salt. And they consider it good to pay
the humans as little as they possibly can to increase their profits.
According to capitalist theory people must compete to see who
will work for the least pennies per hour. They say everyone must
compete with the people in Mexico and China to see who will work for
the fewest pennies. If a company makes billions in profit while paying
its employees starvation wages that is perfectly fine. At least the
sacred laws of supply and demand are not violated. If the people die
of starvation that is fine too. You can always get more people. If
there is not enough work for everyone to do then they think people
need to die off. Ebenezer Scrooge did everything right according to
the capitalists and followed the beliefs and values of capitalism.
The apologists for the Scrooges correctly point out that
people only start business for a profit. Of course that is true.
Anyone can see that communism is a big mistake. But wouldn't people
start the business for only millions in profits rather than billions?
What if there were laws that made sure working people got a reasonable
share of the profit? Would that be so terrible?
In a hypothetical case suppose technology progressed so far that
all
the work were done by machines. Huge farms gathering food and all
automated. You would think everything would be great, but under
capitalism the people would starve because there wouldn't be enough
jobs.
Capitalists oppose welfare and say that orphans and other needy
people should be helped by charity. How much charity would there be
when capitalists openly say that selfishness is a great virtue? If
there was no welfare then the charitable people would have to pay for
everything while most people would not pay one thin dime. We have
welfare so people all pay their fair share. It is part of having
civilization.
We have many laws that make things better for people.
There are laws that give people extra pay if they work over forty
hours. There are laws that ensure people will have retirement.
Capitalism is for doing away with the laws so businesses can be free
to be as greedy as possible.There are laws that keep people from
getting ripped off when they buy a house. Capitalism is against that.
Capitalism is bad for people.
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
CB
<smo...@board.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:48:55 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>The 10 Commandments are in there too
>
>
>
> "When Moses told the children of Israel that he
> received the two tables of the commandments from the
> hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him,
> because they had no other authority for it that his
> telling them so."
Freedom of choice 'is' alive and well. The choice to be a fool and useful
idiot 'is' the path of the left.
We know Jesus sits on the Right side of God's thrown in Heaven.
Do you know what's on the Left?
>
> "The "commandments" carry no internal evidence of
> divinity within them; they carry some good moral
> precepts, such as any man qualified to be a law-giver,
> or a legislator, could produce himself, without having
> to recourse to supernatural intervention"
>
> Thomas Paine,--------- Founder
So what's the big deal in displying them on public property?
CB
"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
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> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
>>
>>God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
>>
>>Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt
>>and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
>
> What does virtue have to do with God?
You're kidding right?
>
> Specifically, where in the Bible does it say that the people of God
> are virtuous?
Seeking the faice of God brings virtue to the sinner
Especially in the New Testament, the focus is on the
> fact that people are sinners, every single one of them.
You're think of the OT where the Law of Moses enslaved people to a system of
600 laws no one could obey at all times. The NT focuses on salvation and
grace. Where the Old Testament was impossible to live by because of man's
imperfection, the New Testament forgives sin by God's loving grace...IF one
accepts Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world and accepts Jesus as
ones personal savior he'll be part of the bride/church.
>
> So Franklin's dictum is entirely inapplicable to any follower of
> traditional Christianity, because it would imply that no one is
> capable of freedom.
Aithism is the chaos of having no faith in God and only in ones self
Christianity is being a slave for Christ and His Order
\
Bob LeChevalier
>"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
>news:3qbge59c4cfvb95m1...@4ax.com...
>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>> Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
>>>
>>>God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
>>>
>>>Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt
>>>and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
>>
>> What does virtue have to do with God?
>
>You're kidding right?
Not in the least.
I have seen numerous people who don't believe in your (per)version of
God who were extremely virtuous, and then there are the fundie
ministers who are anything but virtuous.
Atheists seem to have lower rates of criminal behavior than the
religious.
>> Specifically, where in the Bible does it say that the people of God
>> are virtuous?
>
>Seeking the faice of God brings virtue to the sinner
No, it doesn't.
> Especially in the New Testament, the focus is on the
>> fact that people are sinners, every single one of them.
>
>You're think of the OT where the Law of Moses enslaved people to a system of
>600 laws no one could obey at all times.
So? The focus was not on sin and sinners, but the relationship
between the people of Israel and their God.
>The NT focuses on salvation and grace.
for sinners. Not for the virtuous. There is no virtue in the NT,
only sin and forgiveness.
>Where the Old Testament was impossible to live by because of man's
>imperfection, the New Testament forgives sin by God's loving grace.
Which does not turn sin into virtue.
>..IF one
>accepts Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world and accepts Jesus as
>ones personal savior he'll be part of the bride/church.
And still a sinner, and still lacking in virtue. Jesus Christ is the
one with virtue in that narrative. None of the rest of us have the
slightest amount of virtue.
>> So Franklin's dictum is entirely inapplicable to any follower of
>> traditional Christianity, because it would imply that no one is
>> capable of freedom.
>
>Aithism is the chaos of having no faith in God and only in ones self
>
>Christianity is being a slave for Christ and His Order
So you admit that Christianity is not freedom, but slavery. Or maybe
you assert the Orwellian "Slavery is freedom"?
CB
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
>>news:3qbge59c4cfvb95m1...@4ax.com...
>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>>> Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
>>>>
>>>>God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
>>>>
>>>>Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become
>>>>corrupt
>>>>and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
>>Aithism is the chaos of having no faith in God and only in ones self
>>
>>Christianity is being a slave for Christ and His Order
>
> So you admit that Christianity is not freedom, but slavery. Or maybe
> you assert the Orwellian "Slavery is freedom"?
It's my own personal belief that the whole slave thing in the OT was an
analogy of what my devotion to Jesus 'is'. I'm a slave to serve Jesus, the
Father and my fellow man.
You've heard of Black Liberation Theology? Although corrupted by hatred for
whitey by Rev. Wright the theology has merit in while in the clutches of
slavery and Evil one can be free in the love of Jesus.
Even though Obama is tearing apart America, her Constitutional Republic and
her Capitalist entrepreneurs, we have hope that our prayers will be heard to
heal America and rise to bruise Evil in the head as we thump Saddamn.
Atheism is the soft bigotry low expectations for Darwin's lower species.
Hitler and Planned Parenthood believed in getting rid of the 'lower
class/undesirables'. Atheist would love to rid Humanity of whom they think
is on the lower end of intelligence. It expedites natural selection.
--
CB
Liberalism took the shame outz of habbing chillins out of wedlock and the
result be generational welfare.
Abortion/Eugenics/Planned Parenthood - The darling of the DemocRAT Party for
generations- Started under Hitler to breed the perfect Aryan zombie/race
soldier. Obama's looking to breed a community army loyal to him. His speech
televised to skoo chillins was supposed to do it until FoxNews blew the
whistle on Oboobuh's Brown Shirt recruitment attempt.
Libs have systematically created their base voter by removing individual
responsibility for ones own success or failure and shifted it onto society
and duh mayhn but yet use the mayhn as a scapegoat to keep a good man down.
A collective mind set puts trust in gubment rather than self to provide what
most people consider their own bidniz.
ACORN is to criminality as Obama is to Chicago politics.
CB
<smo...@board.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:45:34 -0500, Topaz
> <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Capitalism and Communism are both bad.
>
> of law---that government act in our behalf.
>
Up until Libs pulled the Chicago/ACORN fraud of the century, Capitalism
rocked the world as the greatest economic system known to man.
Up until Libs took power the economy was the envy of the world.
Up until two election cycles ago America was still a Constitutional Republic
Today its a Socialist Democracy where the rich are leeched off of and the
middle class pays the price.
The 'generationally poor' will be with us always, not because of the rich,
because of their own low expectations. The temporarily down see being broke
as a temporary thing where the career poor are as ignorant as Gary 'is' gay.
CB
<smo...@board.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:36:56 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>It's my own personal belief that the whole slave thing in the OT was an
>>analogy of what my devotion to Jesus 'is'. I'm a slave to serve Jesus, the
>>Father and my fellow man.
>
>
Yur a ragular geni'ous
CB
<smo...@board.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:52:49 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><smo...@board.com> wrote in message
>>news:cgaje5did95hj0q5r...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:45:34 -0500, Topaz
>>> <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Capitalism and Communism are both bad.
>>>
>>> That's why, in a democratic society governed by a rule
>>> of law---that government act in our behalf.
>>>
>>
>>Up until Libs pulled the Chicago/ACORN fraud of the century, Capitalism
>>rocked the world as the greatest economic system known to man.
>
Look it up your self, stupid
>
> YOu can't name any "fraud", Barta.
>
> None of the charges were supported by crimes.
>
> "registering" voters---is NOT "Voting"--
>
>
>>Up until Libs took power the economy was the envy of the world.
>
> Up to the time Bush took office, it sure was
>
> From 2000--to 2008---Bush ruined it.
I'll let the numbers in the graph speak for them selves:
Democrats and the Dow: An Investor's Graph (You Do the Math)
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/02/do-math-investors-graph.html
Dims sabotage peoples investments when ever they gain power
>
>>Up until two election cycles ago America was still a Constitutional
>>Republic
>
> Bush screwed us there also
>
>>Today its a Socialist Democracy where the rich are leeched off of and the
>>middle class pays the price.
>
> If the rich are getting billions in tax breaks--paid
> for by the lower income levels---how in fuck are they
> "leeched from"?
49% of people in the US do not pay taxes at all and you want to steal what
the well planed have worked hard for to gibs to people like you who whine
about not making it due to your low life character.
Tell us Gay'wee, how much in child support do you hab to pay for the
chillins you hab'd outz of wed lock?
"Lower income levels' pay billions in tax breaks for the well planned? That
statement has no logic unless you 'feel' all the well planned's money
belongs to Obama and it's gubment that allows how much one can keep.
Go away commie
>
>
>>The 'generationally poor' will be with us always,
>
> And the Wealth class spends a lot of money keeping them
> there.
I pitty you for not being able to change your view because of your low down
and ugly character that hate's people who made it in life
RichTravsky
No mention of god or religion there.
> So true with what's going on in Washington today and in the Islamic world
> where the Deceiver is king
The deceiver left office last November.
RT
RichTravsky
> >> "RichTravsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Nope. You looked it up.
> 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that
> which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is
> the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
For because of this you also pay taxes
RichTravsky
> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>The 10 Commandments are in there too
> >
> > received the two tables of the commandments from the
> > hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him,
> > because they had no other authority for it that his
> > telling them so."
>
> Freedom of choice 'is' alive and well. The choice to be a fool and useful
> idiot 'is' the path of the left.
The choice to be a bigot and hypocrite is the path of the con-servative.
> We know Jesus sits on the Right side of God's thrown in Heaven.
>
> Do you know what's on the Left?
Nothing. Period.
> > "The "commandments" carry no internal evidence of
> > divinity within them; they carry some good moral
> > precepts, such as any man qualified to be a law-giver,
> > or a legislator, could produce himself, without having
> > to recourse to supernatural intervention"
> >
> > Thomas Paine,--------- Founder
>
> So what's the big deal in displying them on public property?
The Constitution forbids it.
RT
RichTravsky
> "Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >>"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
> >>>>> Rights have nothing to do with superstition.
> >>>>
> >>>>God has everything to do with freedom. As Benjamin Franklin said:
> >>>>
> >>>>Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become
> >>>>corrupt
> >>>>and vicious, they have more need of masters. [Benjamin Franklin]
>
> >>Aithism is the chaos of having no faith in God and only in ones self
> >>
> >>Christianity is being a slave for Christ and His Order
> >
> > So you admit that Christianity is not freedom, but slavery. Or maybe
> > you assert the Orwellian "Slavery is freedom"?
>
> It's my own personal belief that the whole slave thing in the OT was an
> analogy of what my devotion to Jesus 'is'. I'm a slave to serve Jesus, the
> Father and my fellow man.
>
> You've heard of Black Liberation Theology? Although corrupted by hatred for
> whitey by Rev. Wright the theology has merit in while in the clutches of
> slavery and Evil one can be free in the love of Jesus.
>
> Even though Obama is tearing apart America, her Constitutional Republic and
> her Capitalist entrepreneurs, we have hope that our prayers will be heard to
> heal America and rise to bruise Evil in the head as we thump Saddamn.
>
> Atheism is the soft bigotry low expectations for Darwin's lower species.
> Hitler and Planned Parenthood believed in getting rid of the 'lower
> class/undesirables'. Atheist would love to rid Humanity of whom they think
> is on the lower end of intelligence. It expedites natural selection.
This is the level of understanding of science (and anything else) exhibited by
someone who says Satan is a god that controls the weather...
RT
RichTravsky
> >analogy of what my devotion to Jesus 'is'. I'm a slave to serve Jesus, the
> >Father and my fellow man.
>
Details, details...
Slavery is ok with con-servatives. You don't even have to give them minimum
wage.
Deuteronomy 15:12-15 Ephesians 6:9 Colossians 4:1
CB thinksslavery in the bible is an analogy. HAHAHAHAHA
RichTravsky
> >> <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Capitalism and Communism are both bad.
> >>
> >> That's why, in a democratic society governed by a rule
> >> of law---that government act in our behalf.
> >
> >Up until Libs pulled the Chicago/ACORN fraud of the century, Capitalism
> >rocked the world as the greatest economic system known to man.
>
Now now, this is the fiction CB tells himself as he cries himself to sleep. He can't
prove it, and it isn't fair to ask him.
RT
RichTravsky
> <smo...@board.com> wrote in message
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:52:49 -0400, "CB"
> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >><smo...@board.com> wrote in message
> >>> <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Capitalism and Communism are both bad.
> >>>
> >>> That's why, in a democratic society governed by a rule
> >>> of law---that government act in our behalf.
> >>
> >>Up until Libs pulled the Chicago/ACORN fraud of the century, Capitalism
> >>rocked the world as the greatest economic system known to man.
> >
> > What "acorn fraud"?
>
> Look it up your self, stupid
Your claim, you back it up.
> > YOu can't name any "fraud", Barta.
> >
> > None of the charges were supported by crimes.
> >
> > "registering" voters---is NOT "Voting"--
> >
> >>Up until Libs took power the economy was the envy of the world.
> >
> > Up to the time Bush took office, it sure was
> >
> > From 2000--to 2008---Bush ruined it.
>
> I'll let the numbers in the graph speak for them selves:
>
> Democrats and the Dow: An Investor's Graph (You Do the Math)
> http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/02/do-math-investors-graph.html
>
> Dims sabotage peoples investments when ever they gain power
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=annwr7gY50dQ
Ten Stock Market Myths That Bedevil Investors
...
Misinformation can be costly. Here are 10 notions that lead investors astray.
...
Myth No. 9: The market prefers Republicans.
According to Ned Davis Research, the annual gain in the Dow average was 7.2
percent under Democratic presidents from March 4, 1901, through July 8, 2008.
It was only 3.6 percent under Republicans during the same period.
The best stock-market performance on record so far was logged under Bill
Clinton, a Democrat.
...
Last Updated: October 4, 2009
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> CB wrote:
>> <smo...@board.com> wrote in message
>> > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:48:55 -0400, "CB"
>> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>The 10 Commandments are in there too
>> >
>> > "When Moses told the children of Israel that he
>> > received the two tables of the commandments from the
>> > hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him,
>> > because they had no other authority for it that his
>> > telling them so."
>>
>> Freedom of choice 'is' alive and well. The choice to be a fool and useful
>> idiot 'is' the path of the left.
>
> The choice to be a bigot and hypocrite is the path of the con-servative.
>
>> We know Jesus sits on the Right side of God's thrown in Heaven.
>>
>> Do you know what's on the Left?
>
> Nothing. Period.
Heh...did you stuble onto that be pure 'luck?'
>
>> > "The "commandments" carry no internal evidence of
>> > divinity within them; they carry some good moral
>> > precepts, such as any man qualified to be a law-giver,
>> > or a legislator, could produce himself, without having
>> > to recourse to supernatural intervention"
>> >
>> > Thomas Paine,--------- Founder
>>
>> So what's the big deal in displying them on public property?
>
> The Constitution forbids it.
Hypocrite!
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Heh...your ignorance must come from watching CNBC and the Comedy Channel.
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
God only requires I tithe 10% of treasure for charity, the Beast demands an
ever Progressive sum
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
You're a slave to arrogant ignorance
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
We're talking about Liberalism, Eugenics and how the darling of the DimocRAT
Party, Planned Parenthood takes Darwinism to task in riding America of the
'unfit'.
CB
--
...
"According to Congressional Quarterly, the Civil Rights Act of 1964
passed the House 290-130, and Republican support for the bill was much
stronger than Democratic: 61 percent (152-96) of the Democrats
supported the legislation while 80 percent (138-34) of the Republicans
backed it. These numbers were similar in the Senate -- 69 percent of
Democrats (46-21), backed the bill along with 82 percent of
Republicans (27-6)."
Here is the Salon.com article:
"Democratic bigots" by Jake Tapper, July 17, 2000.
http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/07/17/rights/
>
> RT
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Was that a requirement?
>
>> So true with what's going on in Washington today and in the Islamic world
>> where the Deceiver is king
>
> The deceiver left office last November.
Not only will the medical socialists henceforth seize complete dominion over
who will and will not receive care, but the very manner in which such
statism is imposed will serve as a model for the complete eradication of
freedom from every aspect of life in this country.
--Obama Considers Real America 'The Enemy'
By Christopher G. Adamo
August 13, 2009
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/cadamo/2009/cga_08131.shtml
The only way Obama and his minion can pass Commi Healt'cay is through
deception.
CB
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:4aed16d2$0$5082$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> news:4AECEDE7...@hotmMOVEail.com...
>> CB wrote:
>>> <smo...@board.com> wrote in message
>>> > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:48:55 -0400, "CB"
>>> > <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>The 10 Commandments are in there too
>>> >
>>> > "When Moses told the children of Israel that he
>>> > received the two tables of the commandments from the
>>> > hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him,
>>> > because they had no other authority for it that his
>>> > telling them so."
>>>
>>> Freedom of choice 'is' alive and well. The choice to be a fool and
>>> useful
>>> idiot 'is' the path of the left.
>>
>> The choice to be a bigot and hypocrite is the path of the con-servative.
>>
>>> We know Jesus sits on the Right side of God's thrown in Heaven.
>>>
>>> Do you know what's on the Left?
>>
>> Nothing. Period.
>
Heh...did you stumble onto that by pure 'luck?'
Your Freudian Slip stumbled onto the truth that on the Left side of God's
thrown is the Void.