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Amanda Carpenter
House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on rank
and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and join
the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
After a contentious weekend with the GOP over energy, Politico reported
Monday that Pelosi had indicated to some Democrats that they should position
themselves as pro-drilling if it would help them win upcoming election
races.
Boehner told those Democrats to łput it in writing.˛
łIf you arenąt willing to put it in writing, youąre fooling no one,˛ Boehner
said. łYouąre siding with the Speaker of the Drill-Nothing Congress and
radical special interests that favour higher gas prices at the expense of
energy-strapped American families.˛
The GOP believes there are enough moderate Democrats and conservative
Democrats, commonly called Blue Dogs, who would vote with Republicans to
pass a bill to expand the domestic energy supply through offshore drilling
if Democratic leadership would schedule the vote. Rep. Mike Pence (R.-Ind.)
said łWe are absolutely confident˛ such a bill would pass with bipartisan
support in a press conference Monday.
Under House rules, Pelosi is required to schedule legislation for a vote if
218 members more sign a document called a łdischarge petition˛ to support a
vote on it. 106 House members have signed the latest discharge petition.
Their names are available here.
Although the House of Representatives was technically closed for a
month-long recess Friday, House Republicans have stayed in Washington to
pressure Pelosi to call the House back to order to work on energy
legislation.
The Speaker unceremoniously adjourned last week amid loud cries from the GOP
who wanted to end the day with routine, 5 minute speeches. Most of
Republicans were planning to use the time to criticize Pelosi for letting
the House go into recess without doing anything to increase the domestic
energy supply.
Rather than let the Republicans do that, Pelosi unexpectedly turned off
their microphones, ordered CPSAN cameras to shut down and dimmed the Houseąs
lights. Rather than go home, a cabal of Republicans refused to leave and
spoke to visiting tourists about gas prices from the darkened House floor.
Republican will continue their protest this week and possibly the month,
although the House is technically closed.
Pelosi dismissed the Republicanąs desire for a vote on drilling Sunday in an
interview on ABC with George Stephanopoulos. He asked her łWhy not give a
straight up or down vote on drilling?˛
Pelosi said drilling łwas a decoy˛ and that Republicans were conducting ła
war dance of the handmaidens of the oil companies.˛ She added łwe have a
planet to save˛ and insisted she would not allow a vote on offshore
drilling. Against Stephanopoulos asked her łwhy canąt they have a vote?˛
łTheyąll have to use their imagination as to how they can get a vote,˛ she
replied.
Cary Kittrell
> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
> Amanda Carpenter
>
> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on rank
> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and join
> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
EVER so much better.
-- cary
duke
Kittrell) wrote:
>In article <C4BEFD25.13A43%leona...@primus.ca> "leona...@primus.ca" <leona...@primus.ca> writes:
>> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
>> Amanda Carpenter
>>
>> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on rank
>> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and join
>> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
>Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
>effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
>EVER so much better.
Gosh, didn't they teach you at arizona state that the entire production program
for existing stores for the next 10 years changes dramatically if the stores
grow substantially in 5-10 years?
Nah, you couldn't handle the information.
duke, American-American
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Cary Kittrell
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:38:19 +0000 (UTC), ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary
> Kittrell) wrote:
>
> >In article <C4BEFD25.13A43%leona...@primus.ca> "leona...@primus.ca" <leona...@primus.ca> writes:
> >> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
> >> Amanda Carpenter
> >>
> >> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on rank
> >> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and join
> >> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
>
> >Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
> >effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
> >EVER so much better.
>
> Gosh, didn't they teach you at arizona state that the entire production program
> for existing stores for the next 10 years changes dramatically if the stores
> grow substantially in 5-10 years?
That being something which even Twig's own Department of Energy says will
not be a result of either offshore or Alaskan drilling.
-- cary
Frank Zember
"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:g7cd0r$699$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> In article <C4BEFD25.13A43%leona...@primus.ca> "leona...@primus.ca"
> <leona...@primus.ca> writes:
>> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
>> Amanda Carpenter
>>
>> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on
>> rank
>> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and
>> join
>> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
>
>
> Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
> effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
> EVER so much better.
>
So, if we'd have addressed this problem 10 or 20 years ago, we'd be seeing
the benefits today? Why do you object to something that will benefit the
next generation? Perhaps, if Tip O'Neill would have had one living brain
cell, we'd not be having this discussion today.
Bob LeChevalier
>
>"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>news:g7cd0r$699$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
>> In article <C4BEFD25.13A43%leona...@primus.ca> "leona...@primus.ca"
>> <leona...@primus.ca> writes:
>>> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
>>> Amanda Carpenter
>>>
>>> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on
>>> rank
>>> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and
>>> join
>>> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
>>
>>
>> Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
>> effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
>> EVER so much better.
>>
>
>So, if we'd have addressed this problem 10 or 20 years ago, we'd be seeing
>the benefits today? Why do you object to something that will benefit the
>next generation?
You mean like Gore's goal/plan, apparently accepted by Obama tonight,
to achieve energy independence without drilling within 10 years. We
might not manage it in 10, but whatever we accomplish will save a
***lot*** more oil than drilling would gain us, and incidentally help
with other problems as well.
lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
Cary Kittrell
>
>
> "Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> news:g7cd0r$699$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> > In article <C4BEFD25.13A43%leona...@primus.ca> "leona...@primus.ca"
> > <leona...@primus.ca> writes:
> >> Boehner Calls Blue Dog Bluff
> >> Amanda Carpenter
> >>
> >> House Minority Leader Republican John Boehner (R.-Ohio) is calling on
> >> rank
> >> and file House Democrats to defy Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) and
> >> join
> >> the GOP to force a stand alone vote on offshore drilling.
> >
> >
> > Oooh, goodie: let's all focus on an action which will have a minimal
> > effect some 10 to 20 years hence -- because it'll make us all feel
> > EVER so much better.
> >
>
> So, if we'd have addressed this problem 10 or 20 years ago, we'd be seeing
> the benefits today? Why do you object to something that will benefit the
> next generation?
For several reasons, hot the least of which because it's a soothing
distraction from the fact that we must begin gettins serious about utilizing
sources other than petrolium. Deferring a crisis for a generation is
not doing our descendents a favor.
-- cary