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Loirbaj

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Jan 29, 2012, 10:56:13 AM1/29/12
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As a science project I have been trying to prove
Evolutionism, and been running into roadblocks.
My teacher says 'there is no room in the curriculum
for junk science anymore'. I cannot get any lab
space or equipment. The textbooks seem to merely
talk in circular logic: the fittest survive. But the ones
who survive are the fittest, and the fittest are the ones
who survive. I have bred several generations of fruitflies
but every single one has turned out to be fruitflies. The
other students laugh at me and call me Mary Poppins,
that I should listen to Beatle music dinosaur rock. I
guess Evolution was an idea whose time just came
and went.

Davej

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Jan 29, 2012, 12:13:02 PM1/29/12
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On Jan 29, 9:56 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> As a science project I have been trying to prove
> Evolutionism...

Why don't you go searching for Noah's Ark? Be sure to report back
after you've found it.

Mike Painter

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Jan 29, 2012, 12:36:32 PM1/29/12
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After you've dempostrated it is the real Ark would be better.


Davej

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Jan 29, 2012, 1:49:41 PM1/29/12
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On Jan 29, 11:36 am, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Davej wrote:
> > On Jan 29, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >> As a science project I have been trying to prove
> >> Evolutionism...
>
> > Why don't you go searching for Noah's Ark? Be sure to report back
> > after you've found it.
>
> After you've dempostrated it is the real Ark would be better.


I've heard the "Real Ark" is somewhere near the border of Iran. Better
hike in.

Budikka666

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Jan 29, 2012, 3:41:05 PM1/29/12
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26 proofs of macroevolution:
http://tinyurl.com/79btb

666 items of evidence strongly supporting macroevolution:
Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example 5: http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example 6: http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example 7: http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example 8: http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples 9-539: http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540: http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541: http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542: http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543: http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544: http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545: http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546: http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547: http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548: http://tinyurl.com/88kch (shared with 547 thread)
Example 549: http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550: http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551: http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577: http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578: http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579: http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580: http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581: http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582: http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583: http://tinyurl.com/76zao (misnumbered as 582)
Example 584: http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585: http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590: http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591: http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592: http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593: http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594: http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595: http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596: http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597: http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
Example 598: http://tinyurl.com/e3f2b
Example 599: http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600: http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608: http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615: http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635: http://tinyurl.com/b4brg
Examples 636-666 http://tinyurl.com/chfv2

Readily available information on, and evidence for evolution:
A Christian take on radiometric dating:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page

Abiogenesis:
http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/orgel.htm
http://informationcentre.tripod.com/abiogenesis.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/default.htm

Proto cells:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/239787.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1142840.stm

Factories of life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/275738.stm

Lab molecules mimic life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/217054.stm

Mechanism for evolution described:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/222096.stm

Smallest genome a lot smaller than smallest modern cell:
http://mednews.stanford.edu/releases/2001/

Precambrian to cambrian:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/topics/evolution/PSCF12-97Miller.html

Early diversification:
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ecology/early_animal_evolution.htm

Transitional forms:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

Primitive fish different:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/504776.stm

Fish with fingers:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/fishfossil0312.html

Snake with legs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/680116.stm

Ant-wasp evolution:
http://www.antnest.co.uk/Origin.html

Mosquitoes still evolving:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/158522.stm

Origins of flight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664541.stm

4-winged dinos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2684927.stm

Dog evolution:
http://www.provet.co.uk/online/dogs/evolution%20of%20the%20dog.htm

Human evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/

Computer simulated evolution:
http://necsi.org/postdocs/sayama/sdsr/

Evolution vs. creationism debates:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/science/creationism/debates.html

Evolution not "atheist religion":
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Inside/01-97/creat2.html

29 Evidences supporting evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

The evolution of the eye:
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/eye.html

The woodpecker's tongue:
http://omega.med.yale.edu/~rjr38/Woodpecker.htm

Radiometric dating - a Christian perpective:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page

Noah's ark never happened:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html

Ex-creationist on why young Earth creationism doesn't work:
http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/

Another ex-creationist:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/

Creationists cannot define "kind":
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/kinds.htm

Even evolutionists believe in God!:
http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/04/04/01.asp

General anti-creationism/pro-evolution FAQs:
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.html
http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Sciacademy/riggins/newindex.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-meritt/complexity.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Creationism.htm
http://vuletic.com/hume/cefec/index.html

Questionable creationist credentials:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html

Even dyed-in-the-wool creationists think a lot of their arguments are
bad:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp

Budikka

Vurgil

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Jan 29, 2012, 4:10:12 PM1/29/12
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In article
<99d7f8c8-f0ce-4814...@l16g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:


> My teacher says 'there is no room in the curriculum
> for junk religions like creationism anymore'.

Actually, the theories of science are never really totally proven, they
are just ultimately accepted because of a total lack of evidence against
them and the failure of any competing theory to pass anything like that
sort of lack-of-evidence-against-it test.

A sort of survival of the fittest test among theories.

Which Evolution passed and creationism failed.

Buddythunder

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Jan 29, 2012, 10:05:20 PM1/29/12
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There's no shame in being too dim to understand reality, but
attempting to stultify others into the same state of incomprehension
is not very noble, is it?

Loirbaj

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Jan 30, 2012, 2:46:05 AM1/30/12
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cloud dreamer said,
There is empirical evidence of evolution. Why do you think we have a
crisis when it comes to anti-biotics?? Because the bacteria has
evolved
to become resistant.

BroilJAB said,
We know now that it is not true.
In fact, bacteria swap genetic material
via 'plasmid' tubes directly and WITHOUT
'evolution' at all. They all remain the
identical species, and the supposed
'resistance' amounts to a net loss in
their structure. Comparable to a man
'gaining resistance to handcuffs'...by
having his hands chopped off.

Vurgil

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Jan 30, 2012, 3:23:10 AM1/30/12
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In article
<f2e88fd2-6396-4560...@n6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> cloud dreamer said,
> There is empirical evidence of evolution. Why do you think we have a
> crisis when it comes to anti-biotics?? Because the bacteria has
> evolved
> to become resistant.
>
> BroilJAB said,
> We know now that it is not true.

"It ain't what you don't know that hurts you most, its what you know for
sure that jest ain't so."

> In fact, bacteria swap genetic material
> via 'plasmid' tubes directly and WITHOUT
> 'evolution' at all.

WRONG!

Life without sex does not mean without evolution.

Loirbaj

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Jan 31, 2012, 3:12:31 AM1/31/12
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I took my iPad to work and then stayed to watch
and listen all night as an explosive Utube video
exposes the rampant hoaxing and institutionalized
fraud in evolution science. The scientist Dr.Jigen
presents a compelling case and some good lyrics,
as well.

JeaneBeast said,
I do not know how to google for Jigen?

Loir said,
There's a good fellow

Vurgil

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Jan 31, 2012, 4:10:09 AM1/31/12
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In article
<45973071-bc3b-4ea1...@j14g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> I took my iPad to work and then stayed to watch
> and listen all night as an explosive Utube video
> exposes the rampant hoaxing and institutionalized
> fraud in ID. The scientist Dr.Jigen
> presents a compelling case against ID and for
> Evolution!
`
The Theory of Evolution and True Christianity:

Most of True Christianity has already accepted the overwhelming physical
evidence that human's physical bodies were formed by Evolution.

But it is only the souls of those humans that True Christianity is
concerned with, and Evolution in particular, and Science in general, say
nothing at all about such souls.

Thus between the Theory of Evolution and other sciences on the one hand,
and True Christianity on the other, there is, and can be, no conflict.

So that any religion, like creationism, that impugns Evolution is no
part of True Christianity, or any true religion.

Barry OGrady

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Jan 31, 2012, 7:24:00 AM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:10:09 -0700, Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg> wrote:

>In article
><45973071-bc3b-4ea1...@j14g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> I took my iPad to work and then stayed to watch
>> and listen all night as an explosive Utube video
>> exposes the rampant hoaxing and institutionalized
>> fraud in ID. The scientist Dr.Jigen
>> presents a compelling case against ID and for
>> Evolution!
>`
>The Theory of Evolution and True Christianity:
>
>Most of True Christianity has already accepted the overwhelming physical
>evidence that human's physical bodies were formed by Evolution.
>
>But it is only the souls of those humans that True Christianity is
>concerned with, and Evolution in particular, and Science in general, say
>nothing at all about such souls.

There is no true Christianity and there are no souls.

>Thus between the Theory of Evolution and other sciences on the one hand,
>and True Christianity on the other, there is, and can be, no conflict.

To say that is wishful thinking. Let go of your security blanket,
of, as Gladys would say, baby blamket.

>So that any religion, like creationism, that impugns Evolution is no
>part of True Christianity, or any true religion.

No religion is true.

=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
God is a spirit. 0% proof!

Loirbaj

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Jan 31, 2012, 8:35:29 PM1/31/12
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We are skeptical of claims for the ability of
random mutation and natural selection to
account for the complexity of life. Careful
examination of the evidence for Darwinian
theory should be encouraged.
--Scientific Dissent from Darwinism
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Vurgil

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Feb 1, 2012, 2:41:04 AM2/1/12
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In article
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Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory has been
accomplished, first of al by Darwin, and since his time by millions of
others, all of whom have found all real evidence to be supportive of it
and only the lies of religious freaks opposing it.

Loirbaj

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Feb 1, 2012, 7:17:14 PM2/1/12
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Dishonesty is common and fraud is institutionalized
in evolution labs throughout the world. Despite 150
years of intensive research, there has never been one
case of a 'new species arising by natural selection',
since Darwin's bombastic claims and hyperbolic
publications of the last century.

Vurgil

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Feb 2, 2012, 1:06:32 AM2/2/12
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In article
<7e3e21a3-fa94-44de...@w4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Despite 150
> years of intensive research, there has never been one
> case of a 'new species arising by natural selection'

There has been one called the London Underground Mosquito, which is new
because that Underground wasn't even there before Darwin.

Loirbaj

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Feb 2, 2012, 12:17:05 PM2/2/12
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When I heard that Hitchens was dead,
I took a deep breath. The air felt cleaner
--Finkelstein

Vurgil

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Feb 2, 2012, 4:35:31 PM2/2/12
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In article
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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> When I heard that Broiljab was dead,
> I took a deep breath. The air felt cleaner
> --Finkelstein Hitchens


"One can judge from experiment, or one can blindly accept authority. To
the scientific mind, experimental proof is all important and theory is
merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer
fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything and facts are junked
when they do not fit theory laid down by authority. The whole principle
is wrong. It's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because
the baby can't have steak."
- Robert Heinlein

Loirbaj

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Feb 2, 2012, 6:30:25 PM2/2/12
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Alfred Wallace wrote out the entire Theory of
Evolution and sent it to Charles Lyell. CRDarwin
intercepted the letter and then PLAGIARIZED it in
its entirety from Wallace --and Darwin claiming
ohh...that is the same Theory I just had. And while
Wallace was in the throes of malaria in SE Asia,
Darwin then had his cronies in London to register
HIMSELF as the author of The Theory of Evolution.
A thief, a brigand, and a plagiarist, Charles Darwin is
'the grand old man of english biology', so they tell us.

Davej

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:47:24 PM2/2/12
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On Feb 2, 5:30 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> [...]

Obviously Darwin delayed published his work because he knew what the
response would be from the endlessly dishonest endlessly shit-spewing
Loirbags of his century.

Loirbaj

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Feb 3, 2012, 4:53:49 PM2/3/12
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Davej said,
Obviously Darwin delayed published his
work because he knew what the
response would be from the endlessly
dishonest endlessly shit-spewing
Loirbags of his century.

loir said,
Obviously Darwin plagiarized the work
of hardworking researchers.



Loirbaj

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Feb 6, 2012, 3:53:00 PM2/6/12
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If you won't work, you won't eat.
If you can't pay your rent, live in a tent.
If you live on welfare, you will be cut off.
If you commit crime, expect to be executed.
If you hate Christ, expect to be deported.
If you hate the American dream, get out.
If you are Illegal, we will find and deport you.

Matt

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Feb 6, 2012, 4:00:33 PM2/6/12
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Well, that takes care of you. But what about the real Americans?

Romney. LOL. A Lentil Dream.

FOUR MORE YEARS!

Matt

Loirbaj

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Feb 6, 2012, 9:50:43 PM2/6/12
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Romney wins BIG in Nevada!
Next stop the White House.

Matt

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Feb 6, 2012, 9:51:19 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 7:50 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Romney wins BIG in Nevada!
> Next stop the White House.

Sure.

FOUR MORE YEARS!

Matt

Phlip

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Feb 6, 2012, 10:48:00 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 6:50 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Romney wins BIG in Nevada!

Romney got out only 10% of the registered Republicans. And then he
scored lower than he did in 2008.

Yeah, dude, real "BIG" there.

US4ZION

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Feb 6, 2012, 10:59:28 PM2/6/12
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Forget it. Wake up. Whoever the republican is they will save you from
Obama (who saved you from Bush).
Just pay the $5 a gallon gas and vote for the next guy who claims to
save you. Be a good citizen.

u4z





Phlip

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Feb 6, 2012, 11:02:58 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 7:59 pm, US4ZION <us4z...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forget it. Wake up. Whoever the republican is they will save you from
> Obama (who saved you from Bush).
> Just pay the $5 a gallon gas ...

Well, I suppose if I tipped the attendant, then my gas would cost that
much these days...

Phlip

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Feb 6, 2012, 11:09:03 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 6:50 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Romney wins BIG in Nevada!

Less than 3% of Nevada's registered voters turned out.

Phlip

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Feb 6, 2012, 11:21:44 PM2/6/12
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When I first read this I thought you were parodying a teabagger.

Loirbaj

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Feb 7, 2012, 5:17:41 AM2/7/12
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When I first read this I thought you were
parodying a teabagger.

loir said,
No. I'm 'parodying':
Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton...
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