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Loirbaj
Feb 5, 2012, 9:31:33 PM2/5/12
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Eugene Dubois was a failed scientist and defrocked
doctor, who cast about for a likely 'life's mission'.
The Nazi Doctor Haeckel assigned Dubois to go to
Java and have prisoners there to do excavation work,
that he would 'find the Missing Link'. At the location
on Trinil River, prison labor found several skeletons
which Dubois threw out, finally claiming that 'Java
Man' existed --which was the femur of modern man
and a skull fragment from an unrelated extinct ape.
When scientists examined and debunked the supposed
'Java Man', Dubois next hid the composite fossil under
his porch for 20 years. So many frauds in evolution
and the backstory is always so comical.
doctor, who cast about for a likely 'life's mission'.
The Nazi Doctor Haeckel assigned Dubois to go to
Java and have prisoners there to do excavation work,
that he would 'find the Missing Link'. At the location
on Trinil River, prison labor found several skeletons
which Dubois threw out, finally claiming that 'Java
Man' existed --which was the femur of modern man
and a skull fragment from an unrelated extinct ape.
When scientists examined and debunked the supposed
'Java Man', Dubois next hid the composite fossil under
his porch for 20 years. So many frauds in evolution
and the backstory is always so comical.
Davej
Feb 5, 2012, 11:23:41 PM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 8:31 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Eugene Dubois was...
Nobody cares. State the details of your creation myth and then explain
those dinosaur and giant sloth fossils.
> Eugene Dubois was...
Nobody cares. State the details of your creation myth and then explain
those dinosaur and giant sloth fossils.
Mark Evans
Feb 5, 2012, 11:57:03 PM2/5/12
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Between 1887 and 1895, Dubois searched at potential sites near rivers
and in caves, first on the island of Sumatra, then on the Indonesian
island of Java.
In 1891, Dubois discovered remains of what he described as "a species
in between humans and apes". He called his finds Pithecanthropus
erectus ("ape-human that stands upright") or Java Man. Today, they are
classified as Homo erectus ("human that stands upright").[3] These
were the first specimens of early hominid remains to be found outside
of Africa or Europe.
In 1895, Dubois returned to Europe and toured the continent to
convince his colleagues that he had indeed found a missing link.
Although most anthropologists were intrigued, they did not always
agree with Dubois' interpretations. After that, Dubois refused others
access to his fossils, until he was forced to do so in 1923.
[edit] Later years
In 1897, the University of Amsterdam awarded Dubois an honorary
doctorate in botany and zoology, but he had to wait until 1899 for a
professorship. In that year, he was appointed a professor in geology,
a function that did not keep him from his research in anatomy. He was
also (from 1897 until 1928) keeper of paleontology, geology and
mineralogy at Teylers Museum,[4] where he also kept the H. erectus
remains.
Although the scientific debate slowly began to turn in his favour in
the 1920s and 1930s, he died embittered in 1940.[citation needed] He
was buried in Venlo.[citation needed]
His paleontological collection and scientific archive remain at
Naturalis in Leiden.[5]"
His trip to Java was well before the Nazis and he was eventually
vindicated. Do make at least an effort to l;ook these things up.
Mark Evans
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Devils Advocaat
Feb 6, 2012, 1:24:30 AM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 2:31 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Eugene Dubois was a failed scientist and defrocked
> doctor, who cast about for a likely 'life's mission'.
Care to provide a cite supporting the above.
> Eugene Dubois was a failed scientist and defrocked
> doctor, who cast about for a likely 'life's mission'.
From a reliable source.
> The Nazi Doctor Haeckel assigned Dubois to go to
> Java and have prisoners there to do excavation work,
> that he would 'find the Missing Link'.
He was inspired by Haeckel.
Which is quite a different thing.
And you know it.
Devils Advocaat
Feb 6, 2012, 1:31:17 AM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 2:31 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
modern human.
However your claim that the skull fragment belonged to an unrelated
extinct ape is false.
Many other fossils of Java Man have been found at that site and
others, and the general consensus is these are the remains of the
species Homo erectus.
I doubt your claim that he hid these fossils under his porch, on the
simple basis that you lie so much about so many other things.
Poor little Loirbaj.
Budikka666
Feb 6, 2012, 2:12:26 AM2/6/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Dubois
You can tell how badly beaten the creationists are by how increasingly
absurd their lies become!
Homo erectus is a fact. There are many skeletons of it. They are
precisely where they would need to be in the fossil record if they
represent a transitional form between the australopithecines and the
later H, Neanderthalensis, H. ergaster, H. heidelbergensis, etc.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus
I love it when the creationists lie because it simply convinces more
and more people what clueless losers they are. It's not the teaching
of evolution that's winning people away from young-Earth creationism,
but the realization, among honest Christians, that young-Earth
creationists are pathological liars and appalling hypocrites who are
filled with hatred and dishonesty.
Note that when Charles Darwin published his monumental and ground-
breaking scientific work "On the Origin" which changed biology
forever, that not a single transitional hominid fossil leading to
modern humans had been found. Now we have scores of them. Darwin's
prediction, inherent in his Theory of Evolution, was once again proven
right.
And it's less than a week to Darwin Day!
Budikka
You can tell how badly beaten the creationists are by how increasingly
absurd their lies become!
Homo erectus is a fact. There are many skeletons of it. They are
precisely where they would need to be in the fossil record if they
represent a transitional form between the australopithecines and the
later H, Neanderthalensis, H. ergaster, H. heidelbergensis, etc.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus
I love it when the creationists lie because it simply convinces more
and more people what clueless losers they are. It's not the teaching
of evolution that's winning people away from young-Earth creationism,
but the realization, among honest Christians, that young-Earth
creationists are pathological liars and appalling hypocrites who are
filled with hatred and dishonesty.
Note that when Charles Darwin published his monumental and ground-
breaking scientific work "On the Origin" which changed biology
forever, that not a single transitional hominid fossil leading to
modern humans had been found. Now we have scores of them. Darwin's
prediction, inherent in his Theory of Evolution, was once again proven
right.
And it's less than a week to Darwin Day!
Budikka
Loirbaj
Feb 6, 2012, 4:20:45 PM2/6/12
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Freepers said
Many other fossils of Java Man have been found at that site and
others, and the general consensus is these are the remains of the
species Homo erectus.
loir said,
Yes, and because that femur (of Modern Man) is NOT
any part of the skeleton of the other creature, this is yet
another 'composite fake' Fossil. You say you doubt he
hid the fossil under his house. I clicked to google and
there are 17 million hits. Remember that 'english scientists'
refused even the top foreign scientists from viewing Piltdown
Man, for many decades. And the supposed Lucy Man 'foot'
(type afarensis, not 'Lucy') has never been shown to
Creation scientists. It too is a composite fake. The actual
foot of the extinct ape Afarensis is far more curved than even
a modern day chimp.
Indeed many scientists are inclined to agree said
femur belongs to a modern human.
modern human.
femur belongs to a modern human.
Many other fossils of Java Man have been found at that site and
others, and the general consensus is these are the remains of the
species Homo erectus.
Yes, and because that femur (of Modern Man) is NOT
any part of the skeleton of the other creature, this is yet
another 'composite fake' Fossil. You say you doubt he
hid the fossil under his house. I clicked to google and
there are 17 million hits. Remember that 'english scientists'
refused even the top foreign scientists from viewing Piltdown
Man, for many decades. And the supposed Lucy Man 'foot'
(type afarensis, not 'Lucy') has never been shown to
Creation scientists. It too is a composite fake. The actual
foot of the extinct ape Afarensis is far more curved than even
a modern day chimp.
Budikka666
Feb 6, 2012, 6:13:55 PM2/6/12
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Loirbaj
Feb 6, 2012, 9:59:14 PM2/6/12
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The time is at hand, evolution is too freighted
with a train of hoaxes and rooms full of faked
fossils. Throw them out!
with a train of hoaxes and rooms full of faked
fossils. Throw them out!
US4ZION
Feb 6, 2012, 10:06:01 PM2/6/12
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fragment then pack on pounds of clay to make it look human. All in the
name of "faith" in ~science. Yes, false prophets have even hijacked
science and the pagans love it.
u4z
Vurgil
Feb 7, 2012, 2:16:52 AM2/7/12
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In article
<4ab5cbb1-42e1-43ac...@t5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
"One can judge from experiment, or one can blindly accept authority. To
the scientific mind, experimental proof is all important and theory is
merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer
fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything and facts are junked
when they do not fit theory laid down by authority. The whole principle
is wrong. It's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because
the baby can't have steak."
- Heinlein
<4ab5cbb1-42e1-43ac...@t5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
"One can judge from experiment, or one can blindly accept authority. To
the scientific mind, experimental proof is all important and theory is
merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer
fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything and facts are junked
when they do not fit theory laid down by authority. The whole principle
is wrong. It's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because
the baby can't have steak."
- Heinlein
Vurgil
Feb 7, 2012, 2:18:25 AM2/7/12
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In article
<3cc3312b-37a0-4b7d...@gi10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Heinlein said
<3cc3312b-37a0-4b7d...@gi10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Heinlein said
> Indeed many scientists are inclined to agree
Vurgil
Feb 7, 2012, 2:19:14 AM2/7/12
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In article
<6f4dfcd1-0dba-4fb2...@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> The time is at hand, Creationism is too freighted
`
<6f4dfcd1-0dba-4fb2...@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> The time is at hand, Creationism is too freighted
> with a train of hoaxes and rooms full of faked
> bibles. Throw them out!
`
Loirbaj
Feb 7, 2012, 2:58:55 AM2/7/12
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The time is at hand, evolution is too freighted
us4z said,
How many supposed 'Missing Links' have they
modeled and then pictured in science texts, only
to find later that it was a transparent fake --as
you point out with larded-on clay impostures.
with a train of hoaxes and rooms full of faked
fossils. Throw them out!
us4z said,
And the tons of clay with them. What they
do is find a 1" bone fragment then pack on
pounds of clay to make it look human. All in the
name of "faith" in ~science. Yes, false prophets
have even hijacked
science and the pagans love it.
loir said,
do is find a 1" bone fragment then pack on
pounds of clay to make it look human. All in the
name of "faith" in ~science. Yes, false prophets
have even hijacked
science and the pagans love it.
How many supposed 'Missing Links' have they
modeled and then pictured in science texts, only
to find later that it was a transparent fake --as
you point out with larded-on clay impostures.
Vurgil
Feb 7, 2012, 3:27:42 PM2/7/12
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In article
<44f17728-e651-4deb...@p7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> The time is at hand, creationism is too freighted
to correct those errors, and does so regularly and efficiently, but
religions are either eternally right or eternally wrong, and creationism
is premier among the ones that are eternally wrong!
<44f17728-e651-4deb...@p7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> The time is at hand, creationism is too freighted
> with a train of hoaxes and rooms full of faked
> fossils. Throw them out!
>
Science is allowed to err in its predictions, since it is also allowed
> fossils. Throw them out!
>
to correct those errors, and does so regularly and efficiently, but
religions are either eternally right or eternally wrong, and creationism
is premier among the ones that are eternally wrong!
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