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Degreeinfo is a joke that protects crooks and scamartists.

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Dan Peters

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Sep 15, 2001, 9:08:29 AM9/15/01
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Degreeinfo is a joke that won´t even discuss openely the criminal
activities of two of its members, namely John Bear and George Brown.
Nobody can ask about John Bear´s past as a degree mill owner or the
reasons behind his sudden retirement and nobody DARE start a thread
about George Brown´s degree selling activities at the bogus
International College of Hotel Management and his recent "spell" in
police custody.

There could well be an innocent explanation to this (yeah right).

Of course he could always become a spin doctor like John Bear and portray his
"helping police with their enquiries" as being a "consultant to law
enforecment on distance education".

It worked for Bear!

Peter French

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Sep 15, 2001, 3:01:44 PM9/15/01
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George Brown was not arrested, has not been interviewed by Police, has not
been involved in fraud.

He is not ICHM and ICHM is not him. He is an academic and administrator
there. No money is or ever was missing - it is simply a funding issue and
the audit report does not differ generically to any audit report for any
Government funded institution. The State Government of South Australia is a
partner in ICHM and continues to be. The degree course follows on from the
TAFE level course, and advanced standing is granted as with any other course
that is nested or where articulation applies. To take the time for degree
alone as the time for the total degree is purposely misleading by posters
here.

This message of course will result in a tirade from those already clearly
exposed as degree mill apologists/operators, and this only further serves to
isolate them from rational educationalists.

I won't bother replying, and neither should anyone else. George Brown is a
fine upstanding academic of impeccable reputation nationally in Australia -
in education, and all levels of Government. Anything stated that attempts to
malign George is malicious and utter shit.

Now, maybe this group can get on with something positive.

We should ignore completely all of the anti George Brown/John
bear/Degreeinfo misinformation. Let the perpetrators of this misleading and
unprofitable crap (it can't really be regarded as discourse, as it emanates
from where the sun will never shine) be greeted with the silence that they
deserve. I surely won't be replying to them.

Peter French
Australia

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Danny Forrester

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Sep 16, 2001, 7:30:44 PM9/16/01
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Hey Peter,

Before you go blindly digging yourself into trouble by defending George Brown,
which is something he won't do himself, you want to do what I have just done.
Search Google.

The first mention that I can find of George Brown's disappearence (along with
www.virtualuniversities.net) was this observation by Benny....

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From: Benny (nos...@newsranger.com)
Subject: International College of Hotel Management
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format
Date: 2001-07-13 17:40:24 PST


After George Brown's "Degree Mill Checklist" attack in the International College
of Hotel Management, I disagreed with his criteria and NOTHING has happened....

NO "What a buffoon I have been..." posts.

No "Shut up Benny, you are factwatcher... " posts.

No "Your just defending the crummy little degree mill you own..." posts.

Nothing!

I checked and they are right. The "Degree Mill Checklist" site that criticised
the International College of Hotel Management is gone.

George Brown's www.virtualuniversities.net is gone.

George Brown is GONE! (He has not posted anything since the ICHM thread
started.)

Can anyone clarify please?

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Before you get into trouble Peter, you should ask yourself what the Hell George
Brown has been doing since deleting his site on June 13, why he has disappeared,
and why www.virtualuniversities.net disappeared and why the only denials of
criminal behaviour have come from "nobody" at xganon and third parties such as
yourself. George Brown has not posted anything in his defence.

Surely even you can't be suckered in by that pitiful home page he has put up.


In article <FzNo7.219$n8....@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>, Peter French says...

>> Degreeinfo is a joke that won愒 even discuss openely the criminal


>> activities of two of its members, namely John Bear and George Brown.

>> Nobody can ask about John Bear愀 past as a degree mill owner or the


>> reasons behind his sudden retirement and nobody DARE start a thread

>> about George Brown愀 degree selling activities at the bogus

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