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Allecs Chime-Ingrae

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Nov 5, 2003, 8:09:30 PM11/5/03
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ok ... i have not used salvia since last semester at college but i am
about to tonight ... just wondering right now if anyone has had any
similar experiences with it ...

when i was using it ,
i was the only user i knew
who could really get anything out of the drug ...

what happened was i would go into this state
where my body seemed to be talking to me ...
but not in the sense that it really had anything to say ,
actually it was just my thoughts echoing to themselves ,
but such that it gave the impression
that the echo was really saying something ...
the echo which echoed off of my body ...

does that make any sense ?

it's like when you're a kid , right ,
and it's your first time in a cave
and you maybe shout your name really loud
and hear it said back at you a million times --

then
it almost sounds like
there are a million different versions of yourself
all saying the same words
as you are

Shaun Rimmer

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Nov 6, 2003, 7:11:35 AM11/6/03
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"Allecs Chime-Ingrae" <a...@nm.ru> wrote in message
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Yup - I get an echoey effect too, like every particle of my being is in a
spin-dryer, going round and round, echoing it's existence over and over.


Shaun aRe

The Dad

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Nov 8, 2003, 10:26:01 PM11/8/03
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Shaun Rimmer wrote:

> "Allecs Chime-Ingrae" <a...@nm.ru> wrote in message
> news:5e755a4d.0311...@posting.google.com...
>
>>ok ... i have not used salvia since last semester at college but i am
>>about to tonight ... just wondering right now if anyone has had any
>>similar experiences with it ...
>>
>>when i was using it ,
>>i was the only user i knew
>>who could really get anything out of the drug ...
>>
>>what happened was i would go into this state
>>where my body seemed to be talking to me ...
>>but not in the sense that it really had anything to say ,
>>actually it was just my thoughts echoing to themselves ,
>>but such that it gave the impression
>>that the echo was really saying something ...
>>the echo which echoed off of my body ...
>>
>>does that make any sense ?

Have you ever seen the movie
FIGHT CLUB?

Don Phillips

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Nov 11, 2003, 7:48:26 PM11/11/03
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Yes Yes exactly!!!!
Amazing amazing amazing.repeat pepeat repeat repeat repeat
repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat.
And it seemed to me it sort of suspends or warps time and you
get the sense of a separate reality where you think you've found the
secret of reality.
LIke reality isn't really the only reality.
Like you've been tricked all your life.
like there has been a a a a a a true reality next to ours all along
or behind ours all along.
and you almost (I did) giggle and laugh because the
realization of the true reality. ???
Anyone else had this feeling?
And like your waiting for someone to step through that door
and say "thats it" ! "that's life"
"wasn't it cool"? "your being pulled out now, but wasn't this
an amazing life and thing that you had that really isn't real, but now
you know, and isn't that cool?"
Like you are all just here for me, but i really don't know who
you are but i do know.
As if this was all scripted and we are all inserted and
extracted in this realm in some sort of cosmic conflict.
Anyone getting what i am?


, `


Shaun Rimmer

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Nov 12, 2003, 8:31:23 AM11/12/03
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"Don Phillips" <don...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Yes ',;~}~


Shaun aRe posted an old trip report here not too long ago.


Dave

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Nov 12, 2003, 10:49:12 AM11/12/03
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"Shaun Rimmer" <sh...@newtronic.co.uk> wrote in message
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Fairly spot on for me too, mate ;-)...best way I've heard it communicated
though.
I get a lot of the energy that is everything, all acting in synchronised
harmony and the only reason our reality is here at all is to confirm
(poetically speaking) souls existence. Soul appears to be a bit of that
energy that's gone a bit out of sync, became self-aware and needs to prove
to itself, it's own nature. This it does by using the source energy to
create every possible experience by which it can be defined. However it is
all totally of no importance whatsoever and eventually it will cease to be
because it will re-sync with the source energy. At that point everything
that we consider to be real will not only cease to exist but will cease to
have ever existed....can't wait ;-)
But I do prefer your description, spot on mate ;-)
Dave.
ps - I'm not sure what will cause the re-syncing but think I was once given
the opportunity to 'make it happen'...needless to say I chose to carry on
with the 'experiment' 8-P


Spencer

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Nov 12, 2003, 1:58:36 PM11/12/03
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"Dave" <no-...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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|
| "Shaun Rimmer" <sh...@newtronic.co.uk> wrote in message
| news:botcqg$1icnr5$1...@ID-170198.news.uni-berlin.de...
| >
| > "Don Phillips" <don...@webtv.net> wrote in message
| > news:26159-3FB...@storefull-2354.public.lawson.webtv.net...
| > Yes Yes exactly!!!!
| > Amazing amazing amazing.repeat pepeat repeat repeat
repeat
| > repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat.
| I get a lot of the energy that is everything, all acting in
synchronised
| harmony and the only reason our reality is here at all is to confirm
| (poetically speaking) souls existence. Soul appears to be a bit of
that
| energy that's gone a bit out of sync, became self-aware and needs to
prove
| to itself, it's own nature. This it does by using the source energy to
| create every possible experience by which it can be defined. However
it is
| all totally of no importance whatsoever and eventually it will cease
to be
| because it will re-sync with the source energy. At that point
everything
| that we consider to be real will not only cease to exist but will
cease to
| have ever existed....can't wait ;-)
| But I do prefer your description, spot on mate ;-)
| Dave.
| ps - I'm not sure what will cause the re-syncing but think I was once
given
| the opportunity to 'make it happen'...needless to say I chose to carry
on
| with the 'experiment' 8-P

Bollocks. Everything I have ever experienced came from different parts
of my own brain.
SD just separates those parts and destroys the illusion that you have a
real "self"
When you come back your fake self tries to make sense of the trip and
comes up with these crazy dreams. You are asleep -- WAKE UP.

spencer


Dave

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Nov 12, 2003, 5:05:45 PM11/12/03
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"Spencer" <qsx...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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OOOhh!! that's better, thanks Spence, couldn't 'a' dunnit without ya!! 8-P


Spencer

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Nov 12, 2003, 8:47:15 PM11/12/03
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"Dave" <no-...@nowhere.org> wrote in message news:Axys

|
| "Spencer" <qsx...@lineone.net> wrote in message
|
| > Bollocks. Everything I have ever experienced came from different
parts
| > of my own brain.
| > SD just separates those parts and destroys the illusion that you
have a
| > real "self"
| > When you come back your fake self tries to make sense of the trip
and
| > comes up with these crazy dreams. You are asleep -- WAKE UP.
| >
| > spencer
| >
| >
| OOOhh!! that's better, thanks Spence, couldn't 'a' dunnit without ya!!
8-P

I hate all that New Age crap about "energy" etc...
--

Spencer
^_^ °¿°
In Vivo et in Vitreo Ego


j

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Nov 12, 2003, 8:40:43 PM11/12/03
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"Don Phillips" <don...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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---

Thats about the same for me as well.
Like being 'Trueman' in 'The Trueman show' when he gets out :-]
.. but then you get booted back in again and your memory erased, just in
case !!

---

Dave

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Nov 13, 2003, 5:48:06 AM11/13/03
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"Spencer" <qsx...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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That's cool, you're allowed to hate whatever you want...I was just
recounting a personal experience and fcuk knows what it is, but I certainly
experience some energy that makes this whole 'reality' seem a little dull,
energy-wise and very 2 dimensional compared to whatever it is. If it comes
from within my own brain, I have no problem with that, there's a link
somewhere and it might as well be there. As science can only explain what a
small percentage of the brain's functions, maybe I'm just opening up other
faculties of the brain. I would never be so presumptuous as to believe I
knew everything. So, can you tell me how to wake up, 'cos I've been trying
to find out how to do that for a while now.
Apologies if the 'new ageiness' of this post pisses you off ;-)
Dave.


Shaun Rimmer

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Nov 13, 2003, 5:52:52 AM11/13/03
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"Spencer" <qsx...@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Bollocks.

And testicles to you too.

> Everything I have ever experienced came from different parts
> of my own brain.

Well bully for you boy!

> SD just separates those parts and destroys the illusion that you have a
> real "self"
> When you come back your fake self tries to make sense of the trip and
> comes up with these crazy dreams. You are asleep -- WAKE UP.

Get stressed out much do you? Maybe it's down to your view of life and the
universe ',;~}~

Attacking someone with 'Bollocks'(etsuckingfetera) is pretty poor form
indeed, especially when that someone hasn't taken a shot at you. Relax,
enjoy the way you see things, and worry not about what others see and/or
believe. Alternatively, be a self-righteous arsehole and live with the
consequences.

Cheers!

Ken Briscoe

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:37:44 PM11/13/03
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> When you come back your fake self tries to make sense of the trip and
> comes up with these crazy dreams. You are asleep -- WAKE UP.

Nope, next door down. You're looking for "The Matrix." This is a.d.s. Out
the door, take a left, it's the first door on your left.

--

KB

first inital last name AT hotmail DOT com


delta wave

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:39:46 PM11/14/03
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Energy isn't new age. The idea of energy being the source behind
existence has been around for at least a couple of millenia. I'm sure
most of you have heard of 'chi' and how it can be manipulated for
healing purposes or in the martial arts. When your chi flows you feel
incredible and when it's blocked you feel like shit.

I believe SD allows you to see something that you normally can't pay
attention to because the amount of concentration required is too much,
and sometimes you don't know if you want to go there. SD takes me where
I'm not sure I want to go but then relieves me of fear and I journey on.

I used to describe the echo as it was aforementioned but now the echo
and spinning has been focused and I've grown my SD legs. I see the echo
as missing frames of time or that I'm seeing, thinking, and hearing
everything with a completely different reference of time. I turn my head
and I miss the frames in between where I was looking and where I am now
looking, like in a video game when the framerate is really low.

When I go further into my trips I see a structured world that extends
beyond my room, and I think it could be the 4th dimension. I've been
reading about 4D objects and it seems that, that is what I see. I see it
is structured with lines of energy making up that world which contains
our world. I seem to have tracers sometimes from objects that are but
not in that particular spot and aren't

My last trip was the furthest I ever went. It was sort of like my
friend's DMT trip except...I fell so far back out of reality I was a
particular conciousness in the middle of nowhere. The only thing that
was there was the idea I had to breathe in order to sustain life, but it
was on such a basic level I didn't have any idea what life was...what
existence was. Slowly I grew more aware and found I was in this form
that is called human. I slowly recognized I had brain functions capable
of memory and I found that I then had to move like a human. After I
could move I went to the mirror and called my name twice, then "good
comprehension," followed by, "time to get this fucking kid back to reality."

I've had dissociation before and I think someone mentioned it, it was
like a situation from Fight Club, but that other thing in me was me and
I know that for sure. I'm not too sure what to make of it. Any body
experience anything like that?

delta wave

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:53:46 PM11/14/03
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I mean "wasn't me"

Logan

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Nov 26, 2003, 3:43:13 AM11/26/03
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Hey everybody this is the first time I've posted to this group. I've
been smokin this salvia stuff for the past 6 months and could never
figure out what it was all about. Then this last 3 days man is this
stuff weird. I could easily see why some people can really get freaked
out. The worst story I heard was about someone who was taking prozac
too. Guy probably has some probs as it is an can't handle this stuff
too much especially the 10x. I DEFINATELY feel that connection some of
you guys are talking about its really weird. I've ordered a few grams
of the 5x think I should be able to fly soon. I know what this
spinning is all about, I do get real sweaty although i'm not sure if
what I feel like running down my face is really there at all I will
have to think about it. It nice to be able to talk to some people who
have tried this stuff because for the most part of the world or
atleast america its completly unknown. Later guys

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