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Robotica

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I have now forgotten all such concerns including my companions on the
hillside above the little outcropping upon where I'm sitting. As I begin to
relax the light has modestly grown as I have reviewed my immediate
circumstances. I percieved it as polite concern for my worries and minor
travails of the day. It is now about the size of a pencil eraser held at about
a ten foot distance. I have grown comfortable and am now ready to deal with
this new phenomenom with courage and aplomb and whatever degree of style a 19
year boy can muster. I am thinking but my thoughts seem to be spoken aloud.
"If they are space travelers they must hear thoughts like on star trek"
a moment of doubt/worry is sensed.
I continue "Maybe I should send them a thought beam like the tractor beam
from star trek" ..pause..I,m feeling mildly giggly but confident and earnest
in my sincerity. ...pause...
"Space dudes-this is earth-there is a large parking lot right above me and I
have some premium marijuana"
I sense reluctance as the event hones itself into a (go vs stop) within
myself and within this light. I continue
" Why don,t you pull that babey over and land and I,ll introduce you to my
friendss and we,ll smoke the peace pipe"... [ complete stop ]

Visually what I sensed was the light grow from a small pea sized ball to
the size of a trash can lid held five feet away from my face. The sensation
stops there but the light did not hit me. In my poking around the internet I
once heard someone say that tachyons would push light out of their way as the
moved through normal light speed range like the prow of a boat pushes water
out of the way was what someone implied. I got a big "Aha" when I made that
little connection and have been pursuing a coneptual model as opposed to a
three page formulaic model, though that may be where I end up.I shall ask a
question about this tachyon vs graviton issue regardng the spin-2 boson is a
graviton connection ,too conclude this letter but should first finish the
descriptive. To continue: At the moment of "intersect" my consciousness
with its consciousness there was a sense of full time stop When the light had
responded to my overture a wave of panic ensued which was sense of absolute
horror. In the interum 1/10 of a second I had turned to flee and when the
light was pushed aside and this dark beam or tunnel struck I was turned like
you see a person laying on the ground in a crime scene on T.V. who s been
struck down in a running posture. I was also hindered because of sitting on a
ledge. I had nothing to push off of. That ends the intersect which I say
instead of "contact" because this was "The Machine". It seemed
alive-benevolent and polite but the emotional sensation after it passed was
like surviving your first experience with a dentist as a child. Rather
difficult to frame. There was no time loss. I seem to go somewhere and
comeback either slightly before I left or arrived back a billionth of a second
after I left though I had the impression that in abstract unlit darkness I had
sat and listen to this machine calculate math problems applying the
"Quantification of Qualitatives" according "Standard Formulaic Procedures"
regarding the "Tactical and Strategic Assessmentnts" of the survival of
currently quantified entity. I felt like a billion friendly dis-passionate
scientist were deciding if I needed braces or just to have my teeth cleaned
and I was left sitting on a stool listening and sort understanding sitting and
eating balogna sandwich and a glass of milk wondering
"Do they offer desert in this dark computer or what" I seemed to be every
version of myself up to that point and every potential version I might be in
the future "Forward Trajectoes" all squeezed into the person sitting there. In
literal terms there was noing but darkness. Possibly the infinite energy
needed for time travel regulated by the "Supreme Individual Consciousness".
I didn,t feel good bad or indiffent. Just interested in the outcome.
To Continue: That was the sensory aftelow from the point where the light
was a trash can lid five feet away from my face up until the light parted and
the darkness shot thru me and I,m left in at sort of chalk outline position. I
felt frozen in place during that tenth of second as I turned to run.

Robotica

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To Continue: That was the sensory afterglow from the point where the
light was a trash can lid five feet away from my face up until the light
parted and the darkness shot thru me and I,m left in that sort of chalk out
line position. I felt frozen in place during that tenth of a second as I
turned to run. Like I was "Locked In". Then it was over a tenth of a
second later. I scrambled away from the ledge and was still in that silent
feeling as I turned to slowly walk up the hill. I was completely blank but
very conscious during the next three seconds after "Intersect".
This following portion of events is where "The Machine" shall now prove
benevolent intentions in the following and next portion of the descriptive of
the follow up and rebalancing of my human perspective and re-orientation to
pre-intersect conditions. This portion of the descriptive is in essence
event two. Approximately 45-60 seconds after intersect.
Event Two: As I slowly turn to move up the small hill to the
scenic overlook parking lot above my two companions would later report a sense
of extreme sudden concern that caused them to exit the vehicle and stand at
the top of the hill in preparation to ascertain my whereabouts and condition.

Event One 1-5 Min Approx/ Interva10-60 Seconds Approx/
Event Two 2-5 Min Approx.
Event Two: After continuing to rise and turn I gain a solid foothold and
take a few steps up a gentle slope feeling very nuetral but conscious.
As I hear my friends calling my name from above I rapidly grow and enter
rapid dis-orientation. I call my friends in a babbling slurred but
comprehensible fashion calling their names in the tonality that a person who
slipped and fell and needed help might use and stop walking up the hill. My
two friends come down the small slope below the scenic overview parking lot
above. As they come within a ten foot distance I feel and percieve that I can
feel them and am now unable speak. I turn and point to the horizon muttering
and barely able to speak "laaa Laaa Look " pointing to the horizon with my
back turned to my companions who are 3-5 feet behind me watching me point to
the horizon. The human factor as three human beings as energy fields enter and
kick in here. Witut speaking or planning each of my two companions moves to my
left and right simultaneously ringing their arms thru mine on either side of
me. We now stand three abreast as our arms linked as if each of us was holding
a football under each arm,and I say "Look....Look....just look". After a 4-5
seconds three lights appear and visually seem to be about the size of a
thumbnail held arms length.

Robotica

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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We know stand three abreast are arms linked as if each of us was holding a fo
otball under each arm ,and I say "Look....Look....just look". After a 4-5
seconds three lights appear and visually seem to be about the size of a
thumbnail held at arms length. The light is bright but not piercing and they
are pulsing out of harmony according to their own rhythums. We are standing
arms locked and we have fallen very silent. My internal self is calming and I
begin slowly slowly re-orientating saying "I am not crazy I,m not crazy " 3-4
times. I experience a great calm and look to both sides at my companions who
are now transfixed having had a fear sensation in the vehicle above that
caused them to come look for me and then subsequently finding me babbling on
arrival at the bottom of the slope and seeing me turning to point to the
horizon where neither they nor I notice no starfield is present and then
locking arms thinking I might fall of the edge of the cliff above the canyon
floor.
The three lights are pulsing asychronous. The left light achieves a certain
pulse speed and disappears as the other two lights coninue at different rates.
The third far left light re-appears after 5-45 seconds and gains harmonic
synchronization with the middle light. The left and middle light pulse in
harmony briefly and dis-appear for 5-45 seconds leaving the third light
behind. They seem to dis-appear completely and into themselves as opposed to
the upcoming final shut-down. The far left and middle light re-appear pulsing
in harmony and go through slight variations until after "Emotionally sensed" a
long time 5-90 seconds the third light on the far right side achieves hamonic
synchronization with the other lights and all three achieve a slow steady
60-80 beats per minute approx pulsing in complete synchronization. My mind is
now complely calmed and I,m glancing to my left and right to observe my
friends behavior They are silent through out the whole experience and paying
rapt attention and we have unlocked arms during some point in the progression
and are standing three abreast watching the progressions. I remember looking
at the third light and thinking "Come on dude you can do it..lock on lock on"
in a friendly sort of cheering the lights on sensation. The Lights pulse all
three together in harmic synchronization for a modest period and dis-appear up
thin strings or bridgess of light radiating from the lights base position of
12:00 O'Clock 30-35 deges above the horizon at true north. If the lights were
the center point in a clock face the light strings were at 10 O'Clock or 300
degrees using the light as the center point and moved upward and outward
vectoring towards some zenith point. Although the trails did not merge they
each moved up a parallel trajectory. If the lights were the center of an x-y-z
plane and we were on the southe edge then the moved left 15 degrees and
outward 20-35-xz degrees disappearing up the string trails to a finite zenith
for each light. Overall pattern 0-1-0-3-2-3-1-3-0 this event occured on the
2x10x36 or day 7200 of my human existence.
To Continue: We looked at each other quizzically and I was returning to
previous "Yo space dudes" attitude and light heartedness. My companions and I
exchanged non-descript exclamations of "Wow..." and made are way up the slope
and lingered outside by the vehicle. We agreed to keep the event secret at my
request owing to the brief moment of wondering if I was imaginig things in the
interum bween Event-1 and Event-2. To this day we have never spoken about it
at length except briefly the next morning to inform our companions in the
second vehicle who we were re-united with the next morning at a gas station in
the park. We went our seperate ways in few years. I never related my
"intersect" event or conversation with the light for practical reasoning that
I needed them not to deny the experience to me or themselves because I needed
them as witsses in my emotional reality so I would not believe it was an
imaginary occurce. Hence my gratitude for a two stage occurence. the
0-1-0-3-2-3-1-0 pattern displayed has numerous timeline values and predicted
magor league events that seemed to triumph over in what religous people might
call "miraculous" victories I would always wonder about that billionth of a
second linear in the darkness which seemed like forever sensing the
"The supreme consciousness" processing such human impressions of: "
Tactal and Strategic Assessments/of/Quantified Qualitatives/ according to /
Standd Formulaic Procedures / regarding most conducive /Fore and Aft
Trajectories of / Rhythum Balanced Momentums / .
The overall impression was of a a benevolent being who translated
impressions and calculations in concise formulas, yet while radiating a
calming presence to contain the entities "my" energy field it has drawn
within its paramaters of higher presence. I relate this experience to you J.
I remember this consciousness always tried to boil down equations into the
most simplistic brutality of " Momentum Vs Resistence " The " Vs "
seemed to be the turning of qualitatives into equatio of: higher and higher
absolute stasis:

Point/Line/Circle/Spiral/New-Point/New-Line
Verses
Point/Line/Circle/Spiral/New-Point/New Line

This would then be logged into the energy field of the participating entity
as "Trajectories" that could be used and navigated by measuring
" Momentum Vs Resistence" so the entity only had to do what felt most survival
orientated
This letter now concludes: Thank You J. for the "Regularar bosons mediate
gravity Spin-2 bosons are gravitons." Do you have a spin theory you could pass
along regarding tachyons ?.I wrote this narrative as an act of gratitude for a
really good tip from you and not to behave arrogantly or display superiority
but as possible inspiring story. This explains my motivations as an amatuer
pursuing "Small latticed spheres spinning in a small closed track and
ectro-magnetically influenced by 2-3-4 small regulatory field generators".
So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles. It would
be quite helpful. Thank you for the previous tip and taking time from your
busy schedule to answer the previous e-mails. Good luck with your research of
the possiblity work of intersecting lasers slowing atomic structures close
enough to absolute zero to form the type of sub-particle lattices that are
probably required for "Scooting through the folds of the space-time plane"
once energized by opposing electrical fields.


Re: This narrative letter part of correspondence with scientists.

Robotica

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No mushrooms cloud the horizon
No blinding lights crowd the pawn
The train is set to run its course
Thats how its meant to dawn

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say

Words I never heard before
Rip thru my mind like open doors
The falling seeds sweet irony
The new tones poetic subtlety

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say

A dark eyed sun is rising
He,s dancing in the rain
The prize is on the rainbow bridge
Don,t bother trying to explain

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say

A line drawn in the sand
Oh so long ago
One man burns with fire
The other runs a traveling show

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say

Ones holding the deed
Ones holding the keys
Everybody gets to watch this time
Knowing only one makes it free

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say
I stop and pause and listen awhile
And leave before they start to pray

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say
I see the old wheels burning
I know who stole the grease
I see the cold is returning
To a gentle warm spring breeze

Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I dare not say
The train is set to run its course
See you up the line some day
If I,m lost in sorrow
Its the price I gladly pay


For theres a madman on my street
I shall never try to sway
Theres a madman on my street
Saying things I,ve tried to say


Theres A Madman

Slowmo Music
Copywrite@1996


nimbus

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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In message <Machinehead....@Fact-Factory.Org>
Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org (Robotica) wrote:

dear robotica

i am constantly amazed by this place, adc.

i said in a recent post that i had observed the flow of power here,
through both the profound and profane.

my own description of my encounters with the eagle are very different
from yours, but they contain many similar *feelings*

i regularly participate in the sacred inipi (sweat lodge- hi brandydom)
and i think that you would find joy at the many contacts therein, with the
star nation people

thank you for yet another spin of the yarn that is the warriors dialogue

we are all related
--
nimbus
Remove nospam. from address to reply!
nim...@nospam.cableinet.co.uk

h

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Robotica wrote:
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> So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
> energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
> friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles.

yo bot,
tachyons must be outside the influence of any light speed fields,
or they would be captured and therefore observable. much like gamma
rays and cosmic rays, which are so penetratiing(ultra high frequency)
that they are rarely detected. faster than light particles defy the
boundaries of 4 demensional space-time (einsteinian space). so my
deduction is that faster than light is a 5th demensional phenomenon to
whom einsteinian space is a very weak field. the einsteinian universe is
a galactic gravity field with little or no effect on 5th demensional
beings. i would surmise that the impossibility of einsteinian space
attaining faster than light speed is equal to the impossiblity of
faster than light beings becoming 4th demensional. kinda like trying to
go slower than absolute zero.
just my opinion.


RStark1957

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In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net>, h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
writes:

>kinda like trying to
>go slower than absolute zero.
>just my opinion.

http://www.calarts.edu/~maxfield/anag-servers.html

coulD yoU saY agaiN?

ydnaR

"dying is the culmination of events
that one puts off not doing"
-- henry

h

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RStark1957 wrote:
>
> In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net>, h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
> writes:
>
> >kinda like trying to
> >go slower than absolute zero.
> >just my opinion.
>
> http://www.calarts.edu/~maxfield/anag-servers.html
>
> coulD yoU saY agaiN?

absolute zero is a state of absolute stillness >>all vibrational motion
ceases. heat is a measure of vibrational motion on a molecular level.
absolute zero implies no heat, therefore all atoms are still.
absolute zero can be approached but never realized.
since the forces that vibrate atoms are intrinsically present and
will not go away. if this were to happen the atom would transform
to component energies. meaning the electrons and the nucleus would
dissolve.
so theoretically absolute zero means no energy is present. this is not
even true in deep space, since energy fields have infinite reach.
albeit, these fields are very weak but still measureable.
them damn photons are everywhere, damnit!
i knew u had to know that.
party on dudes!!

Robotica

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In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net> h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>From: h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: 16 Nov 1998 03:54:21 GMT

>Robotica wrote:
>...


>> So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
>> energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
>> friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles.

>yo bot,


> tachyons must be outside the influence of any light speed fields,
>or they would be captured and therefore observable. much like gamma
>rays and cosmic rays, which are so penetratiing(ultra high frequency)
>that they are rarely detected. faster than light particles defy the
>boundaries of 4 demensional space-time (einsteinian space). so my
>deduction is that faster than light is a 5th demensional phenomenon to
>whom einsteinian space is a very weak field. the einsteinian universe is
>a galactic gravity field with little or no effect on 5th demensional
>beings. i would surmise that the impossibility of einsteinian space
>attaining faster than light speed is equal to the impossiblity of

>faster than light beings becoming 4th demensional. kinda like trying to


>go slower than absolute zero.
>just my opinion.

Yes. I still puzzle over my first meeting with the white beast though
because it was a dark place and it was just walking by pretending not to
notice me but I decided to jump right into it and then jump right out.
The faster than light part is the inbalance we are moving clockwise at
lightspeed 2x and meeting resistance 1x for an open field of 1x range.

The one lightspeed range seems to allow for the most sticky glumpy
creations. The white beast penetrates the membranes between ranges because it
supplies its own momentum clockwise and resistance counter clockwise. So it
can jump ranges depending on how fast it rotates its momentum field while
maintaining a set resistance counter rotating field. The real range jumps are
in the membranes sort of like punching in a new station on a difital radio. it
goes from 550 to 550 + XYZ in a single leap and that range opens.

To use mechanical means to break the first barrier would be to pump
out a waveform and then real quickly pump out a second continuous waveform
that would bounce or push of the first wave form. And then repeat the process
with

>beings. i would surmise that the impossibility of einsteinian space
>attaining faster than light speed is equal to the impossiblity of

>faster than light beings becoming 4th demensional. kinda like trying to

>go slower than absolute zero.

absolute zero as an idea no balance is balance,complete lack of motion
It could also be achieved by a cancelling effect like white noise is used
to block out aircraft engine noise inside special whitnoise producing
headphone ear muffs.

>just my opinion.

I always think of Nothing divided by Something becomes Everything.

To focus perception on a portion of the Everything created is to choose
Anything.... Its a riddle I,m working on.

Far fetched as it seems I think 640 Octillion fields clocked into 640
Octillions counterclocked in the same general vicinity as opposed to set
relative co-ordinates produces the highest level of Zero-or rotating
nuetralized fields Nulls. This is The Creator level. A random factor anywhere
in those endless tiers form a new creation/static/animation/random outburst
and coagulations of exotic matter combinations of some sort or another. As
the malfunction ripples through the descending and ascending fields a
point of gravity or attraction is formed as a rotational point and the
center nulls out again leaving randoms and chaotics as possible new forms.
Like an engine to produce anomalies that are then protected. Probably how
energy bodies are formed of so many sorts and types.

First step to open a multi-mach portal is a extreme vacumn. The ship must
be in the vacum. Thats where the temporary vacum formed by bouncing waveforms
off each other comes back in . You project wave one out in a circular pattern
from a circular form and bounce the second wave off the first. If done with
exquisite timing a domino effect counters all 640 octillion fields. Then
reverse the process back to the range or zone desired say 12billion to twelve
billion and one range and see whats there. Mostly theres nothing.
The white beast energy being was more surprised to find me than I was to
find it. It was in essence in my private lightmach by accident. Each of us has
a private lightspeed which is a combination of the combined multiplicand and
dividend of our rotating internal field rotational fractioned combinations

Those are my thoughts at the moment. A synthesis of the best
explanations I have encountered. I believe the only absolute which is measured
against some other item scale or co-ordinate is the supreme creator spinfield
640 Octillion vs 640 Octillion only the dark one who is absolute and does not
speak or manifest below that level can maintain that spin field ratio ad
infinitum. When your in the absolute darkness of zero absolute thats The
No-Thing because it can process data at that rate flawlessly without static or
random factor arc outs. The white beast can do 64000 fields which is way far
below 640 octillion. I can 8-6400 depending on the surroundings and my
internal reality. Even in this glumpy sticky world there are energy nulls or
windows that occur naturally plus I know techniques that involve magnets.
Wonder where wings has been lately.Hehehehehe.


> tachyons must be outside the influence of any light speed fields,

A generic catch all term for every particle not bound by a 2X Vs. 1X spin
field of counter rotating fields.
http://www.grandunification.com/ ... a site I,m checkin out.

That was real microtubular hypolocalized null time field sluething
"seeing" when you pointed out tachyons pushing light out of the way.

I ,ve lived this entire fall before in a microburst time event.
Man I,m bored and pissed. Reruns dammit fuckin reruns.

Robotica

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Henry this is Big Zero supreme creating an anonaly that is visible at our
singular lightmach range.
http://www.grandunification.com/Time_is_the_key.html
This is how little zero/white beast makes the light ships
http://www.grandunification.com/Induction_off_Poles.html

As the ship moves away the line it is following is the trajectory or
bridge of light. Just imagine that part.

Big Zero does platforms/worlds ... 1x range environments.
Little Zero/white beast does ships to cross the membranes/barriers.

h

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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Robotica wrote:
[]

>
> I ,ve lived this entire fall before in a microburst time event.
> Man I,m bored and pissed. Reruns dammit fuckin reruns.

try some jetspeed!!!!

ap971124.html

Robotica

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In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net> h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>From: h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: 16 Nov 1998 03:54:21 GMT

>Robotica wrote:
>...


>> So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
>> energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
>> friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles.

>yo bot,


> tachyons must be outside the influence of any light speed fields,
>or they would be captured and therefore observable. much like gamma
>rays and cosmic rays, which are so penetratiing(ultra high frequency)
>that they are rarely detected. faster than light particles defy the
>boundaries of 4 demensional space-time (einsteinian space). so my
>deduction is that faster than light is a 5th demensional phenomenon to
>whom einsteinian space is a very weak field. the einsteinian universe is
>a galactic gravity field with little or no effect on 5th demensional
>beings. i would surmise that the impossibility of einsteinian space
>attaining faster than light speed is equal to the impossiblity of
>faster than light beings becoming 4th demensional. kinda like trying to
>go slower than absolute zero.
>just my opinion.

H. I was zoned when I read this.

Take a three dimensional sphere moving using time/space perception
rates as the measure.
Take a second sphere moving using time/space perception
rates as the measure.

Four dimensions plus four dimensions.

Add two bridges as two way singularity transfer points.
Two way bridge. Voila....

Ten dimensions.

Its when the spheres are inside of each other that it gets tricky
to picture in the 3D mindspace. Thats when they talk about compaction.

Pete Ross

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On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 07:47:48 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
(Robotica) wrote:

>In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net> h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>>From: h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
>>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>>Date: 16 Nov 1998 03:54:21 GMT
>
>>Robotica wrote:
>>...

>>> So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
>>> energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
>>> friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles.
>

Fun theory, but I think you two have been watching too much Star
Treck. Tachyons are totally theoretical, and have not been proven to
exist. In this universe, only 4 dimensions have been established, not
just theoretically; 3 spatial dimensions, and 1 of time. Even on a
subatomic level, there doesn't have to be any necessity for FTL
particles. There are no instruments that could measure FTL particles,
even if they did exist. This is in the ball park of quantum mechanics
which, if you weren't aware, Einstein discovered. Then a pack of FTL
theorists and Quantum Physicists started trying to take a step beyond
Einstein, which has not been done. Since Einstein's Theory of
Relativity HAS been proven, this would, in my opinion, even more
likely disprove that FTL particles exist. In the relativity equations
it is seen that -x4 (time) has a wavelength and therefore negative
mass, hence the expression (-x4), while those of the spatial
dimensions have +x1, +x2, and +x3 values.

Pete;
A Student of Shamanism

Robotica

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In article <36586adb...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) writes:
>From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)

>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:59:26 GMT

>On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 07:47:48 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
>(Robotica) wrote:

>>In article <364FCA...@worldnet.att.net> h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
>writes:
>>>From: h <h.lu...@worldnet.att.net>
>>>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>>>Date: 16 Nov 1998 03:54:21 GMT
>>
>>>Robotica wrote:
>>>...

>>>> So tachyon tip equal to the Boson-x Vs Boson x2. Are really circling
>>>> energy fields overtaking each other and forming a cone or trianleof
>>>> friction resistance against the stationary sea of random particles.
>>

Sheeeeeze Pete. Where the hell do you think your downloading your recall
or maybe even precall of your other existences. How do you know you are not an
indian native living in the18th century right now parallel to your existence
as pete the ar vet adc debater. Time/motion is not linear..except outward
from the point of expansion.


>only 4 dimensions have been established, not
>just theoretically; 3 spatial dimensions, and 1 of time. Even on
>a subatomic level, there doesn't have to be any necessity for FTL
>particles. There are no instruments that could measure FTL particles,

Pete your the instrument ,you have been invented unless you want to
argue that pete doesn,t really exist.


>even if they did exist. This is in the ball park of quantum
>mechanics which, if you weren't aware, Einstein discovered.

He invented a system of words to describe certain phenomenom
concerning the motion of energy in tight little spheres called atoms.
Then a brilliant crew of monkeeys built a ballon made of lead with
plutunium atoms impregnated in it and put a smaller lead ballon with
impregnated decaying atoms in it and surrounded it with TNT and voila they
pushed an atom out of its orbit releasing the energy contained in many
empty shells of exotic matter/chaos lattices accordingto frequency.
The rest is history.


>Then a pack of FTL theorists and Quantum Physicists started trying to take a
>step beyond Einstein, which has not been done. Since Einstein's Theory
>of Relativity HAS been proven,

It was proven the first time they dropped a bowling ball off a
speeding train and visually measured the arc of gravity after that its
been a sort of autistic journey stairing at spinning wheels never guessing
what frequencies unlock the light barrier.


>this would, in my opinion, even more likely disprove that FTL particles
>exist. In the relativity equations it is seen that -x4 (time) has a
>wavelength and therefore negative mass,

As all that negative mass collapses inward it must go somewhere.
A re-allignment of frequencies of the orbiting photons and
electrons around the core particles.


>hence the expression (-x4), while >those of the spatial>dimensions have +x1,
+x2, and +x3 values.

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism

I think the key argument is gravity a force repelling/attracting
Or a medium of harmonized particle lattices reacting to a wave form and
forming invisible strings.

If gravity is a force that operates at the speed of light why do some
particles escape the pull of black holes.
Is there a counter rotating whirlpool within pushing them out. Or are
those particles acting in a special -4 X -4 field that hass gone null
allowing them to escape.

The point of provable or not provable is well taken.
To prove it is to meet it in the flesh/darkness as pure
individualized consciousness ready to transact.
You seem to have bought the data of parallel or previous/future
existences. At a higher or lower spin frequency balance we are nothing but a
virtual reality machine. Me and you are but tiny orbs of consciuosness routing
ourselfs thru a sentient adaptive circuit board called "Now".

All my thoughts on this subject using science words are
adaptations I,m in the process of proving mechanically FTL and anti-gravity.
But alas this entails encountering... "IT"

I have no problem with that. Most do. You practice by reviewing
multiple existences during a single point focus. I have manyselfs capable of
operating at many speeds. But I have an ally that does the mechanical work.
I ,ll master it one of these existences.

Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin

Pete Ross

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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:14:01 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
(Robotica) wrote:

Look, I was arguing that physical transportation was impossible, not
out-of-body travel. Sure, the soul can travel at super light speeds,
but it doesn't have to contend with large amounts of mass either, does
it? Ofcourse time is not linear, as it has a wave length, and moves
on gradients x, y, z, since everything in the universe can be
expressed as these coordinates, with the center being 0, as in
Calculus., giving the length of the line 0...1 the total of all time
foreward, and -1...0 all time into the past. The point of expansion is
from 0...1, since all galaxies are moving toward the edge of the
elypse of the universe, and at the point they reach the speed of
light, then they are no longer in a physical state, and must be
considered 1 x (infinity) x S (length of the line from the center).


>>only 4 dimensions have been established, not
>>just theoretically; 3 spatial dimensions, and 1 of time. Even on
>>a subatomic level, there doesn't have to be any necessity for FTL
>>particles. There are no instruments that could measure FTL particles,
>
> Pete your the instrument ,you have been invented unless you want to
>argue that pete doesn,t really exist.

That is absurd. I have not been invented; I have always existed,
since there was no creation.

>>even if they did exist. This is in the ball park of quantum
>>mechanics which, if you weren't aware, Einstein discovered.
>
> He invented a system of words to describe certain phenomenom
>concerning the motion of energy in tight little spheres called atoms.

No, in quantum structure, he discovered (not invented) the quanta,
which is a packet of energy, not an atom. A quanta or quantum is
based on light particles from a sun, in that light gets from point a
to point b in a line that is not straight, and may be ziz zag fashion,
like the energy shells of electrons orbiting an atom.



> Then a brilliant crew of monkeeys built a ballon made of lead with
>plutunium atoms impregnated in it and put a smaller lead ballon with
>impregnated decaying atoms in it and surrounded it with TNT and voila they
>pushed an atom out of its orbit releasing the energy contained in many
>empty shells of exotic matter/chaos lattices accordingto frequency.

It was Einstein's equations that made the atomic bomb possible, since
he understood quantum energy, and no one else did. This in no way
subtracts his achievement. Only a fool would say otherwise.

> The rest is history.
>
>>Then a pack of FTL theorists and Quantum Physicists started trying to take a
>>step beyond Einstein, which has not been done. Since Einstein's Theory
>>of Relativity HAS been proven,
>
> It was proven the first time they dropped a bowling ball off a
>speeding train and visually measured the arc of gravity after that its
>been a sort of autistic journey stairing at spinning wheels never guessing
>what frequencies unlock the light barrier.

It was proven when they did the moon shot in 1969, and the Grenich
Mean Clocks in the space capsule were not the same as the Grenich Mean
Clocks were at the jet propulsion laboratories, showing that even at
speeds slower than the speed of light, there were discrepencies in
time.


>>this would, in my opinion, even more likely disprove that FTL particles
>>exist. In the relativity equations it is seen that -x4 (time) has a
>>wavelength and therefore negative mass,
>
> As all that negative mass collapses inward it must go somewhere.

Negative does not imply a push from 0 left; only that you would have
to go a long way to get to the right of 0.



> A re-allignment of frequencies of the orbiting photons and
>electrons around the core particles.

It is likely that photons are the combination of electrons, and
certain radioactive subatomic particles, like gama rays, x-rays, beta
and theta rays, epsilon an omega particles, and others not fully
understood. They are created during the solar explosions that throw
waves of light out of a sun into space.


>>hence the expression (-x4), while >those of the spatial>dimensions have +x1,
>+x2, and +x3 values.
>
>>Pete;
>>A Student of Shamanism
>
> I think the key argument is gravity a force repelling/attracting
> Or a medium of harmonized particle lattices reacting to a wave form and
>forming invisible strings.

Ofcourse they have seen sun light being bent as it came over the
horizon, during several space missions. This is just another proof
that light does not always travel in a straight line, is gravity
dependent, and therefore, since time has a wavelength, time is gravity
and inertia dependent also.


> If gravity is a force that operates at the speed of light why do some
>particles escape the pull of black holes.

They don't. When any atomic, or subatomic particle comes withint he
gravitational pull of a black hole it will be sucked in. That there
are free floating particles in space only implies that those particles
were created at their source recently enough that they have not yet
encountered the gravity of a black hole, or quasar phenomenon, which
is much more powerful than any black hole. There are quasars that are
larger than some galaxies.



> Is there a counter rotating whirlpool within pushing them out. Or are
>those particles acting in a special -4 X -4 field that hass gone null
>allowing them to escape.

This is not worthy of an explanation. I have already don so in the
above paragraph.


> The point of provable or not provable is well taken.
> To prove it is to meet it in the flesh/darkness as pure
>individualized consciousness ready to transact.
> You seem to have bought the data of parallel or previous/future
>existences. At a higher or lower spin frequency balance we are nothing but a
>virtual reality machine. Me and you are but tiny orbs of consciuosness routing
>ourselfs thru a sentient adaptive circuit board called "Now".

Now, past, future. The noncorporeal self does not discern, as time
does not impinge upon it; the wavelength of time is ineffectual. If
my noncorporeality is circuited into other coexistences, like say
earth, is only a temporal phenomenon while we are here on earth.
There is nothing permanent about it, nor special. If anything, this
life I am living is superfluous, compared to the totality of my
noncorporeal identity.


> All my thoughts on this subject using science words are
>adaptations I,m in the process of proving mechanically FTL and anti-gravity.
> But alas this entails encountering... "IT"

Hahaha. To even attempt to prove FTL theory, you would need more
energy to test it than is produced by the sun in a year. How will you
come up with such a fantastic energy requirement? I know of no way
without harnessing the sun, and no one else does either.

> I have no problem with that. Most do. You practice by reviewing
>multiple existences during a single point focus. I have manyselfs capable of
>operating at many speeds. But I have an ally that does the mechanical work.
> I ,ll master it one of these existences.

Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
requirement. But you may have to live another thousand life times to
reach that point of advancement.


> Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin

Pete;
A Student of Shamanism

Cat

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Wise Sire G sez:

PR who is attempting to understand sez:

:D

Baloney of these existences.

> Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
> requirement. But you may have to live another thousand life times to
> reach that point of advancement.
>
> > Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin
>
> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism

> Huh????

Now listen up and listen good...

That ain't it PR...listen harder.

I can assure you...

;D

Cat

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Pete Ross

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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:09:48 GMT, Cat <el....@cryston.ca> wrote:

>Wise Sire G sez:
>
>PR who is attempting to understand sez:
>
>:D
>

>Baloney of these existences.


>
>> Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
>> requirement. But you may have to live another thousand life times to
>> reach that point of advancement.
>>
>> > Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin
>>
>> Pete;
>> A Student of Shamanism
>

>> Huh????
>
>Now listen up and listen good...
>
>That ain't it PR...listen harder.
>
>I can assure you...
>
>;D
>
>Cat

Cat, you have said absolutely nothing, as usual. Get off your pompous
crock of balony.

Pete;
A Student of Shamanism

Cat

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pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:09:48 GMT, Cat <el....@cryston.ca> wrote:
>
> >Wise Sire G sez:
> >
> >PR who is attempting to understand sez:
> >
> >:D
> >

> >Baloney of these existences.


> >
> >> Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
> >> requirement. But you may have to live another thousand life times to
> >> reach that point of advancement.
> >>
> >> > Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin
> >>
> >> Pete;
> >> A Student of Shamanism
> >

> >> Huh????
> >
> >Now listen up and listen good...
> >
> >That ain't it PR...listen harder.
> >
> >I can assure you...
> >
> >;D
> >
> >Cat
> Cat, you have said absolutely nothing, as usual. Get off your pompous
> crock of balony.
>

> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism

Hey, why so angry Pete, I'm not disagreeing with you. What has happened to
you? You've changed.

Cat
A Student of Human Nature

Robotica

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In article <365b53c5...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) writes:
>From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:48:58 GMT

>On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:09:48 GMT, Cat <el....@cryston.ca> wrote:

>>Wise Sire G sez:
>>
>>PR who is attempting to understand sez:
>>
>>:D
>>
>>Baloney of these existences.
>>
>>> Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
>>> requirement. But you may have to live another thousand life times to
>>> reach that point of advancement.
>>>
>>> > Grumpy"Tower Climber-Rogue Time Traveler" Grumplestilstskin
>>>
>>> Pete;
>>> A Student of Shamanism
>>
>>> Huh????
>>
>>Now listen up and listen good...
>>
>>That ain't it PR...listen harder.
>>
>>I can assure you...
>>
>>;D
>>
>>Cat
>Cat, you have said absolutely nothing, as usual. Get off your pompous
>crock of balony.

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism

A lot of times I try to answer a post and its just to damm bodacious and
asserts to many god dammed far fetched things.
Petey answered in a most axcellent way and basically summed up the
parameters of that which is known. To go beyond that is to talk of drones and
energy beasts and ships at other frequencies and sound like a new age banana
peel. Plus I had a bit of an urge to offer proof at his time and place of
choosing unknown to me. Which is...... risky? half baked? stupid? or a gambit
of unknown origin.
Plus Petes had gazillions of private experiences.
I do orbs and fireball artifacts but I don,t do the messianic gig with
the "Hay earth people wanna meet some space dudes". Thats how I got fucked
the last time. Although 4-5 billion cold cash and three female prisoners of my
choice could sway the old spikester to do the contact thingy.

Grumpy " The Man In The Long Black Coat" Grumpinator Version 4.0a


P.S. Plus I wanna be a silly pop star and take drugs and have a bad attitude
and smash beautiful guitars because I have no talent,inspiration or
appreciation of existence.

Plus that fact Pete had of the two atomic clocks set on greenwhich
mean time with had a slight variation after deep space motion was a little
ruby of knowledge to throw in the mental vault stored right next to EE,s
amethyst of the overall aggregate speed of the earth-sun-galaxy being approx
550.000. mps

DarthWayne

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Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org (Robotica) said...


Peat:


""Time travel is possible, if you could overcome the fantastic energy
requirement.""


Grumpy:


"Petey answered in a most axcellent way and basically summed up the parameters
of that which is known."

That information can be found in most current laymen's books on physics.


"To go beyond that is to talk of drones and
energy beasts and ships at other frequencies and sound like a new age banana
peel."


CC spoke of moving the AP to align different emanations, thus experiencing
other worlds having different emanations of time.

Simple, and elegant.

The energy requirement discovered by physicists is just another "hint". It
DOES require increased energy to move the AP significantly. That's why the
basic work of sorcery is all about reclaiming and redeploying energy.


Rainbowbird

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Robotica wrote:
> P.S. Plus I wanna be a silly pop star and take drugs and have a bad attitude
> and smash beautiful guitars because I have no talent,inspiration or
> appreciation of existence.
>
Please don't be irresistible...
You are distracting me.:)
I have to keep my mind on more important things.

RBB

dan

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"That's why the basic work of sorcery is all about reclaiming and
redeploying energy."

Ohhhhhh.... ahhhhhhhhh.... wow that was so good, was it good for you
too?
... sometimes... it's only the words of another voyager that rings loud
and true.


ohhh... ahhhhh,.. @$&&@#@&*@@!~!!!.. cumming...


"come in major tom..."

There's a Problem, Houston!

..fuck you, get a life, there is no problem.

:-)


Robotica

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In article <365C658D...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>

>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:16:13 +0100

>RBB

If you ever get a chance pick up "Oh Mercy" 1988 by Bob Dylan.

I had a dream about him one time where he came to me and offered me a
lyric machine that looked like a monkeey grinders box.

I just noded "No".

Its like a dream game. Everybody offers each other all kinds of amazing
stuff and the trick is never to accept anything. Its a cool game.

Keeps you in tip top shape for the waking world.

Dylan Bob
Oh Mercy

Man In The Long Black Coat

Crickets are chirpin', the water is high
There's a soft cotton dress on the line hangin' dry
The window's wide open, African trees
Bent over backwards from a hurricane breeze
Not a word of goodbye, not even a note
She'd gone with the man in the long black coat

Somebody seen him hangin' around
At the old dance hall on the outskirts of town
He looked into her eyes when she stopped him to ask
If he wanted to dance, he had a face like a mask
Somebody said from the Bible he'd quote
There was dust on the man in the long black coat

Preacher was a-talkin', there's a sermon he gave
He said every man's conscience is vile and depraved
You cannot depend on it to be your guide
When it's you who must keep it satisfied
It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat
She gave her heart to the man in the long black coat

There are no mistakes in life, some people say
And it's true sometimes, you can see it that way
But people don't live or die, people just float
She went with the man in the long black coat

There's smoke on the water, it's been there since June
Treetrunks uprooted 'neath the high crescent moon
Feel the pulse and vibration and the rumblin' force
Somebody is out there beating on a dead horse
She never said nothin', there was nothin' she wrote
She'd gone with the man in the long black coat


Dylan Bob
Oh Mercy

Rainbowbird

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Robotica wrote:
>
> In article <365C658D...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
> >From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
> >Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
> >Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:16:13 +0100
>
> >Robotica wrote:
> If you ever get a chance pick up "Oh Mercy" 1988 by Bob Dylan.
>
> I had a dream about him one time where he came to me and offered me a
> lyric machine that looked like a monkeey grinders box.
>
> I just noded "No".
>
> Its like a dream game. Everybody offers each other all kinds of amazing
> stuff and the trick is never to accept anything. Its a cool game.
>
> Keeps you in tip top shape for the waking world.
>
> Dylan Bob
> Oh Mercy
>
> Man In The Long Black Coat

Had a dream last night.
Actually there was a man in long black/dark coat.
He tried to ring someone else, but the connection didn't work.
The answering voice was kind of a robot voice. I couldn't hear what it
said, before the connection was broken.
I have never seen him before.He appeared out of nothing.
RBB

Robotica

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In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100

I was precalling a really cool scam.
http://www.wingmakers.com

I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
Convinces themselves of noble intentions

Robotica

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In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100

>Had a dream last night.


>Actually there was a man in long black/dark coat.
>He tried to ring someone else, but the connection didn't work.
>The answering voice was kind of a robot voice. I couldn't hear what it
>said, before the connection was broken.
>I have never seen him before.He appeared out of nothing.
>RBB

He was reminding you of your thirty day promise.
To erase some recordings you have in your possession.

Rainbowbird

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Robotica wrote:
>
> In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
> >From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
> >Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
> >Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100
>
> >Robotica wrote:
> I was precalling a really cool scam.
> http://www.wingmakers.com
>
> I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
> Convinces themselves of noble intentions

:) I see.
Not devilish enough?:)

If I don't miss the precise meaning of scam here.
Actually it is not in the dictionary.
May be I have to get a slang dictionary.
About the site.
My partner can't get off the feeling that he heard the music before.
Either in reality or in another he can't tell.
I love the site yet I am waiting. Can't jump to conclusions.
It's inspiring that is for sure.

RBB

Pete Ross

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:10:55 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
(Robotica) wrote:

>In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100
>
>>Robotica wrote:
>>>

>>> In article <365C658D...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird


>><rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>>> >From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>>> >Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4

>>> >Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:16:13 +0100
>>>
>>> >Robotica wrote:
>>> If you ever get a chance pick up "Oh Mercy" 1988 by Bob Dylan.
>>>
>>> I had a dream about him one time where he came to me and offered me a
>>> lyric machine that looked like a monkeey grinders box.
>>>
>>> I just noded "No".
>>>
>>> Its like a dream game. Everybody offers each other all kinds of amazing
>>> stuff and the trick is never to accept anything. Its a cool game.
>>>
>>> Keeps you in tip top shape for the waking world.
>>>
>>> Dylan Bob
>>> Oh Mercy
>>>
>>> Man In The Long Black Coat
>

>>Had a dream last night.
>>Actually there was a man in long black/dark coat.
>>He tried to ring someone else, but the connection didn't work.
>>The answering voice was kind of a robot voice. I couldn't hear what it
>>said, before the connection was broken.
>>I have never seen him before.He appeared out of nothing.
>>RBB
>

> I was precalling a really cool scam.
> http://www.wingmakers.com
>
> I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
> Convinces themselves of noble intentions

Remember what Dr. Anderson said in one of his interviews? That after
reading the material, the longer it was after you read it, the more
cynical and disbelieving many would become? Well, before you said it
might all be true; but now you are doing exactly what Dr. Anderson
said was typical. I, on the other hand, am not saying it is true, nor
untrue, but will reserve judgement until 2011, or until such time as
it is proven, or unproven. You see, this is what I did with the CC
material, and I only incorporated into my being that which I myself
have SEEN, which is that we have a luminous body, and there is such a
thing as dreaming in 2nd and 3rd attention states of heightened
awareness. All the rest I have not seen, so I can't believe in the
rest.

Pete Ross

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:14:32 +0100, Rainbowbird
<rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> wrote:

>Robotica wrote:
>>
>> In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>> >From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>> >Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>> >Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100
>>
>> >Robotica wrote:
>> I was precalling a really cool scam.
>> http://www.wingmakers.com
>>
>> I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
>> Convinces themselves of noble intentions
>

>:) I see.
>Not devilish enough?:)
>
>If I don't miss the precise meaning of scam here.
>Actually it is not in the dictionary.
>May be I have to get a slang dictionary.
>About the site.
>My partner can't get off the feeling that he heard the music before.
>Either in reality or in another he can't tell.
>I love the site yet I am waiting. Can't jump to conclusions.
>It's inspiring that is for sure.
>
>RBB

I feel the same way. But at this point believing, or not believing
would equally be foolish. I may not make up my mind until 2011.

Rainbowbird

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Robotica:

> He was reminding you of your thirty day promise.
> To erase some recordings you have in your possession.

:)Is that why he came? :)
I still have two different things he came for.

*IT* has already been done ...down to the recycle bin.
There is no trace except for memory and different interpretation of
recordings,waiting to be ask for.
Reminders are not necessary.
Specially not if the rules are the one we play by it.:)

RBB

Rainbowbird

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Pete Ross wrote:
> I feel the same way. But at this point believing, or not believing
> would equally be foolish. I may not make up my mind until 2011.
>
> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism

Not making your mind up goes well together with the chaos of
the possibilities of perception.
I hope we have the linear time until 2011.
RBB

Pete Ross

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:13:56 +0100, Rainbowbird
<rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> wrote:

No doubt there will be some bazaar things happen between now and 2011,
perhaps even terrible warfare, etc, but I am sure we have more time
left than that, unless you find yourself right in the middle of it.
Personally, I will stay away from the coast, and the worst fault
lines, just in case the profecies are correct!

EE

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> > >Robotica wrote:
> > I was precalling a really cool scam.
> > http://www.wingmakers.com
> >
> > I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
> > Convinces themselves of noble intentions

Great story. Reads like SciFi.

Shades of Chris Carter's (another CC!) Millennium, Roddenberry's Earth
Final Conflict, and Straczynski's Babylon 5 ... shades of The Prisoner,
even.

The philosophy sounds like something one could write after reading a
crosss section of adc posters for awhile. But ya gotta love that! (!)
The source codes idea was intriguing.

The art looks pretty contemporary to me. Will they still paint like that
in 750 years, I wonder? Didn't the symbols look like generic tribal
symbols - the kind that are in vogue these days as decor?

The poetry's good.

Rainbowbird wrote:
> :) I see.
> Not devilish enough?:)
>
> If I don't miss the precise meaning of scam here.
> Actually it is not in the dictionary.
> May be I have to get a slang dictionary.

A scam is a fast one is being pulled - A scammer is someone who is
trying to pull, or getting away with pulling, a fast one.

I hope I'm not talking to you in Canadican. It's just the mood I'm in.
Can I getcha some backbacon on a bun? Some Molson's maybe? Ahh ... I see
you brought some Gouda and Edam. That's great! Just put it on the
groaning board over there. Crowlitos brought some delicious smoked BC
Salmon, Nimbus brought a cream cake, and I made a maple syrup upsidedown
cake ... lotsa cake ... would you like a piece of cake? Some of the
Muricans, honorary hosers, and international posters are going to pop by
later. And I hope we get at least one poster from Downunder. Those
people really know how to parrrrteeee! Barring that, I'd settle for
Todd. (!) Where the hey is BJ? Where's a Canadian lumberjack when you
need one?

> About the site.

Wanna talk about te site some more, RBB? OK ....

> My partner can't get off the feeling that he heard the music before.
> Either in reality or in another he can't tell.

I haven't heard the music yet. What does it sound like?

> I love the site yet I am waiting. Can't jump to conclusions.
> It's inspiring that is for sure.

It's way cool - brilliant if it's online performance art. And if it's
not, it's a better than average conspiracy theory with the added
fascination of art. For a long time I've thought that Science, Art, and
Religion all came from the same place. These days exotic physics is kind
of like a religion, and art is meeting science. Interesting descriptions
on the site. Let's see if they start merchandising. :-)

BTW Pete, try again. I saw all the pictures last night.

EE

Pete Ross

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Hmmmm...strange....

Rainbowbird

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Strange main man?
I posted you even the exact url.:)
You must have been dreaming.
RBB

Rainbowbird

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Talk as much Canadian as you like.
I sure had a great time in your country.:)
Started around Toronto and headed north.
When I came back I didn't understand dutch anymore.:)
Somehow I got pretty absorbed in the nature up there.

By the way the stone you described has been given to me by my
best lady friend.
Set in a beautiful ring.

The music is kind of new age, but if I remember right, they said it was
a translation of the the music on the optical disc.

The art I like to make is just a material expression of dreamscapes,
energy perceptions,symbols or keys most of the time.
A way of awaken dreaming.
Which means I make them with an empty mind.
Very often I find the creations back in dreaming, only then it has
become a place.Or it was already a place who can tell.
I am attaching one of those places with this post in a follow up. So you
can see.This one was exactly like the picture just much bigger and
actually a bit cold.
A mental atmosphere in a way.
The strange mountain that looks like a jelly in the pic was as high as a
big building and felt as smooth as polished stone. Kind of a being
though. The disk came down and integrated into the mountain without
trace.
Kind of a strange sightseeing, but I like it.


I like to party....so count me in.
I even bring the cheese. YIKES.:)
Actually I had an african dinner tonight....
Spicy chicken, sour pancakes, great vegetables and some nice wine. And
the best you get to eat with your hands.
So I am not in the cheese mood.:)

But the cakes sure look delicious.:)
RBB

Lau

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EE <gr...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 36625B...@sympatico.ca...

>I hope I'm not talking to you in Canadican. It's just the mood I'm
in.
>Can I getcha some backbacon on a bun? Some Molson's maybe? Ahh ... I
see
>you brought some Gouda and Edam. That's great! Just put it on the
>groaning board over there. Crowlitos brought some delicious smoked BC
>Salmon, Nimbus brought a cream cake, and I made a maple syrup
upsidedown
>cake ... lotsa cake ... would you like a piece of cake? Some of the
>Muricans, honorary hosers, and international posters are going to pop
by
>later. And I hope we get at least one poster from Downunder. Those
>people really know how to parrrrteeee! Barring that, I'd settle for
>Todd. (!) Where the hey is BJ? Where's a Canadian lumberjack when you
>need one?

Wellll.... I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay....

I thought I heard someone calling my name!
Parteee.!!!!!
Reminds me of bush parties in high school, with the one asshole from
Calgary blowing donuts in his truck in the middle of a field (no he
didn't spill his beer)... jumps out screams yeeehiiii then falls on
his face (and no he didn't spill his beer).

Hey is the cabin still standing from last year?
Wait a minute... weren't we going to take over Murica this time last
year?
....Oh I remember! It was because we ran outta beer.. remember.. and
thiers sucked so bad we came back home and made potato moonshine...
good times...yup...good times.

Lil'bj

Robotica

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In article <3662facd...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) writes:
>From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)
>Subject: Re: Bogus Journey to the Canuck Non-Party Conversation!
>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:07:08 GMT

>>I hope I'm not talking to you in Canadican. It's just the mood I'm in.
>>Can I getcha some backbacon on a bun? Some Molson's maybe? Ahh ... I see
>>you brought some Gouda and Edam. That's great! Just put it on the
>>groaning board over there. Crowlitos brought some delicious smoked BC
>>Salmon, Nimbus brought a cream cake, and I made a maple syrup upsidedown
>>cake ... lotsa cake ... would you like a piece of cake? Some of the
>>Muricans, honorary hosers, and international posters are going to pop by
>>later. And I hope we get at least one poster from Downunder. Those
>>people really know how to parrrrteeee! Barring that, I'd settle for
>>Todd. (!) Where the hey is BJ? Where's a Canadian lumberjack when you
>>need one?
>>

>>> About the site.
>>
>>Wanna talk about te site some more, RBB? OK ....
>>
>>> My partner can't get off the feeling that he heard the music before.
>>> Either in reality or in another he can't tell.
>>
>>I haven't heard the music yet. What does it sound like?
>>
>>> I love the site yet I am waiting. Can't jump to conclusions.
>>> It's inspiring that is for sure.
>>
>>It's way cool - brilliant if it's online performance art. And if it's
>>not, it's a better than average conspiracy theory with the added
>>fascination of art. For a long time I've thought that Science, Art, and
>>Religion all came from the same place. These days exotic physics is kind
>>of like a religion, and art is meeting science. Interesting descriptions
>>on the site. Let's see if they start merchandising. :-)
>>
>>BTW Pete, try again. I saw all the pictures last night.
>>
>>EE
>Hmmmm...strange....

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism

Its on a lousy server.

The poetry is where the veneer slips at times.
It relegates the infinite to excessive yearnings and other forms of
sexuality as opposed to an unbounded nothingness where things arise and decay
of their own accord and random perogatives.

I found the over arching thematics and synatax structure to be very
nagualisti in origin or designed to be attractive to those type of thought
pattern rhythums.

I,m betting on a nagualisti connection.

Although I did enjoy the synchronious use of the name Ann for the
reporter seeing as my grandmother just passed over and her name was Ann.
I thought the clay impression of a energy foot as an artifact would be
about right for the white beast. The other displayed artifact of a giant
amplification crystal was apropo to the whole energy management subject.
But alas the poetry was a bit smarmy and the dialectic proposition of the
messianic evolutionistics verses adeptus masters seemed to imply a distinct
convoluted paradox involving the discussion of heirarchies.

The site railed about the messianic evolutionist use of heir archies to
distribute knowledge on a need to know basis and then in the philosophical
discussion and glossary of terms went on to contradict themselves by
establishing a heirarchal structure of "integrals-masters" and
"sovereigns-nodes of creation" thereby undercutting the strong stance they
took against natures natural use of heirarchies as an organiational principle.

Slightly smarmy in the poetic female universe genre and lacking the
straightforward iconoclastic formulations necessary for a unified system of
diverse anomolies dedicated to encouraging innovation of form style and
substance.

In summary time travelers with out ships are amatuers.
Time travelers with ships are ego maniacal enough to slip up and
show off once and a while but still more than deathly afraid of the supreme
consciousness and its ability to rise spontaneously whereever its interests of
endless expansion and basic co-existence of forms is threatened to radically.
The implication that terra-earth is soon moving beyond the point of
nodality or node-ness :-) irretrievably seems slightly far fetched considering
the endless and tedious intervention of said supreme consciousness in the
minutea of this world to the point of what I would call humanoid obsession.

The supreme owns the land, the casino, the tables etc etc ad
nauseum so it seemed rather trite that lady universe in the poetry section
should be chasing around mister heirarchey in the philosophy section.

The so called universe was destroyed and recreated as you read
this...... go figure.

When I see 360 bridges of light anchored and a fleet of ships
land and five crowns of light floating above them, then and only then would I
approach whoever seemed to be in charge and say:

" How much for you women, sell me your women"

Jake & Elwood

Robotica

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In article <36632CFB...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>
>Subject: Re: Bogus Journey to the Canuck Non-Party Conversation!
>Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:40:43 +0100

.Or it was already a place who can tell.
>I am attaching one of those places with this post in a follow up. So you
>can see.This one was exactly like the picture just much bigger and
>actually a bit cold.
>A mental atmosphere in a way.
>The strange mountain that looks like a jelly in the pic was as high as a
>big building and felt as smooth as polished stone. Kind of a being
>though. The disk came down and integrated into the mountain without
>trace.
>Kind of a strange sightseeing, but I like it.

Very black with black rocky landscape around it.
Like black quartz and a five mile diamater of primordial forest.
Six cones and ships per sphere.

Rainbowbird

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Robotica remarks:

> When I see 360 bridges of light anchored and
> a fleet of ships
> land and five crowns of light floating above them, then and
> only then would I
> approach whoever seemed to be in charge and say:
>
> " How much for you women, sell me your
> women"

If you have to ask the price you can't afford it.
Rainbowbird

Rainbowbird

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My scene:
I remember.....
The black rocky landscape looks like water with high waves from a
distant.
If you say primordial forest, i would say kind of tree's that are used
to grow in difficult circumstances.
RBB

Pete Ross

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On Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:02:50 +0100, Rainbowbird
<rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> wrote:

Well, I don't know if there was a problem with my connection on this
end, or at the Wing Makers end, but I finally downloaded all the 23
chamber pictures, and the rest of the art, and the RA music files.
There were 2 music files that I couldn't get, but I did get: "Of The
Place", "Temptress Vision", "Warm Presence", "Circle", "One Day",
"Memories Unbound", "Downstream", and "Another Mind Open". If you got
the other two, I would appreciate you E-Mailing them to me for my
collection. I will post more on the site later.

Pete Ross

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It does smack of a cultist attempt to take over and gain a lot of
followers, especially the part of one needing to be open to faith, and
that in order to advance to the next level of awareness one needs to
have a "Universe relationship through gratitude". And in mention of
"The Grand Experiment", and "How can life be optimal or perfect",
there is a contradiction after mention that every life form in the
universe has the same "Sovereign Integral" energy. In this analysis,
how can an amoeba, which has this fabric of energy be expected to have
this relationship of "Universe relationship through gratitude", or the
"Sovereign Integral" (God) have this feeling for the amoeba? Now if
this was just an alien scam to control us: to make a terra-earthly
cult to control us, that would be understandable, as THEY would be the
"Prime Creator", in this case.

I noticed an even bigger contradiction, however: one hard to ignore if
the Wing Makers actually did build a Time Vessel, and that is this:
Anne, the journalist who was writing all this down from taped
interviews with Dr. Anderson, had never been inside the 23 chambers,
so had never seen the art there. How is it, then, that there was a
picture of her, called Anne sock (in that the picture was shaped like
a sock), in the same abstract art style as the art from the caves?
Now, if she did the art herself, or someone she knows did that picture
symbolizing her, can we speculate that the same artist did all the art
work on the WEB pages? I would think that if one of the Wing Makers
had painted that picture that she would have made a big deal out of
it: that she would state that they had traveled in time and done this
abstract art of her. There is a similiarity between anne_sock.gif,
ch4.jpg, ch15.jpg, and glyphsock.gif, in the shape of the sock, and in
the brush strockes, and color structure. Seems to me that the same
person painted all of these.

After much study and comparative analysis of the site, I am willing to
concede that it is an elaborate hoax. I do like the music and art,
however, and plan on putting it on a CD for my own amusement.

> The supreme owns the land, the casino, the tables etc etc ad
>nauseum so it seemed rather trite that lady universe in the poetry section
>should be chasing around mister heirarchey in the philosophy section.
>
> The so called universe was destroyed and recreated as you read
>this...... go figure.
>
> When I see 360 bridges of light anchored and a fleet of ships
>land and five crowns of light floating above them, then and only then would I
>approach whoever seemed to be in charge and say:
>
> " How much for you women, sell me your women"
>
> Jake & Elwood

Jake & Elwood:
Interesting observations, and on the money. After listening to
all the music from the site, I have to say that it is very hypnotic in
structure, and reminds me of very intense cult music in it's rhythm,
and repetition. Sigh. Well, no one can say I didn't look at all the
information before I drew conclusions.

DarthWayne

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"Sigh. Well, no one can say I didn't look at all the information before I drew
conclusions.

Pete;
A Student of Shamanism"

***

"Super post; one that is of utmost importance.

Regards;


Pete;
A Student of Shamanism"

***

"This is some pretty heavy stuff, and makes more sense than most of what I have
read on time travel. In fact, it was awesome. Dr. Anderson is truly a genius,
and I don't say this of very many.

Pete;
A Student of Shamanism"

***

Two thumbs up! *** - Siskel and Ebert

***

Guess we won't have to notify Molder and Sculley after all...


Pete Ross

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On 2 Dec 1998 15:04:17 GMT, darth...@aol.com (DarthWayne) wrote:

>
>"Sigh. Well, no one can say I didn't look at all the information before I drew
>conclusions.
>
>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism"
>

>***
>
>"Super post; one that is of utmost importance.
>
>Regards;

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism"
>

>***
>
>"This is some pretty heavy stuff, and makes more sense than most of what I have
>read on time travel. In fact, it was awesome. Dr. Anderson is truly a genius,
>and I don't say this of very many.
>

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism"
>

>***
>
> Two thumbs up! *** - Siskel and Ebert
>
>***
>
>Guess we won't have to notify Molder and Sculley after all...

How convenient of you to not put in the criticisms of The Wing Makers.
Reading this, someone might get the impression that I didn't think it
is a hoax, which is not true. After downloading and studying over 8
MB of data from their WEB pages, there is no other conclusion I can
draw My point was that I didn't draw any conclusions until AFTER I
had studied all the information. And if I am reading them right, RBB
and Robotica were leaning in the same direction, but also giving
careful consideration and study to the concept.

You just had to throw in your two pissy cents, didn't you?

Publik Servent

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I just finished with the site.....Whew

I read it in reverse - Anne's notes, the interviews, philosophy, music,
paintings then the poetry.

I was fascinated for a while with this one. I see many truths peppered
throughout mixed in with some new ingredients. A few glaring gaps in regard
to the Wingmakers themselves especially their apparent immunity from the
consequences of this hostile attack. Changing original thought is fucking
around with free will - no wonder this fifteen guy is stuck on that one. :-)

A missing fifth element? A dozen or so movies, star trek episodes, books
etc. that happened to hit on the same themes. Yet the site is peppered with
truths.

The music seemed to be a mix of Delerium/Intermix and Windham Hill (not to
mention some inorganics I know)

The poetry....well....It doesn't seem like poets do much evolving over the
next 750 years.

Thanks for the info Grumps - I really enjoyed this one. I might have even
learned a thing or two.

The real thing - disinformation - both - neither. For me it was more of a
wake up call to some other things I've forgotten.

Later,

Snake


Robotica wrote:
>
> In article <3665845e...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)


writes:
> >From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)

> >Subject: Re: Bogus Journey to the Canuck Non-Party Conversation! (Reviews)
> >Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 18:28:54 GMT

> Pete, I went to the poetry section first because I know that is the hardest
> to fake. A persons true syntax and internal structure is always revealed in
> poetry. So I saw certain clues that said "This is good stuff but...."
>
> Poetry if a person loses the self in the flow usually asserts the old selfs
> first as versions of self. Only once every version of self has lost the power
> to dominate can the poetry climb that mountain of eternal expression that is
> in the correct syntax of the current time frame.
> The machine and the darkness and even other humans spirits are always
> churning out poetry and songs so it can get uncanny if you write a tune and
> six months later four different artists are hitting on the same theme or group
> of themes, sometimes even two to four lines in exact order.
> A group field effect.
>
>
> I,ll notify Dr. Speckle just in case the hoaxer is a renegade drone.
>
> :-)
>
> I remembered seeing the picture of the hiker in the sand caves on
> another site but couldn,t place it so I wasn,t sure.

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Robotica

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In article <3665845e...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) writes:
>From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)
>Subject: Re: Bogus Journey to the Canuck Non-Party Conversation! (Reviews)
>Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 18:28:54 GMT

>On 2 Dec 1998 15:04:17 GMT, darth...@aol.com (DarthWayne) wrote:

>>
>>"Sigh. Well, no one can say I didn't look at all the information before I drew
>>conclusions.
>>
>>Pete;
>>A Student of Shamanism"
>>

>>***
>>
>>"Super post; one that is of utmost importance.
>>
>>Regards;

>>Pete;
>>A Student of Shamanism"
>>

>>***
>>
>>"This is some pretty heavy stuff, and makes more sense than most of what I have
>>read on time travel. In fact, it was awesome. Dr. Anderson is truly a genius,
>>and I don't say this of very many.
>>

>>Pete;
>>A Student of Shamanism"
>>

>>***
>>
>> Two thumbs up! *** - Siskel and Ebert
>>
>>***
>>
>>Guess we won't have to notify Molder and Sculley after all...
>How convenient of you to not put in the criticisms of The Wing Makers.
>Reading this, someone might get the impression that I didn't think it
>is a hoax, which is not true. After downloading and studying over 8
>MB of data from their WEB pages, there is no other conclusion I can
>draw My point was that I didn't draw any conclusions until AFTER I
>had studied all the information. And if I am reading them right, RBB
>and Robotica were leaning in the same direction, but also giving
>careful consideration and study to the concept.

>You just had to throw in your two pissy cents, didn't you?

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism

Pete, I went to the poetry section first because I know that is the hardest

Rainbowbird

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DarthWayne wrote:
>
> "Sigh. Well, no one can say I didn't look at all the information before I drew
> conclusions.
>
> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism"
>
> ***
>
> "Super post; one that is of utmost importance.
>
> Regards;
> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism"
>
> ***
>
> "This is some pretty heavy stuff, and makes more sense than most of what I have
> read on time travel. In fact, it was awesome. Dr. Anderson is truly a genius,
> and I don't say this of very many.
>
> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism"
>
> ***
>
> Two thumbs up! *** - Siskel and Ebert
>
> ***
>
> Guess we won't have to notify Molder and Sculley after all...

Certainly not.
We have you around:)
RBB

Rainbowbird

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What ever...
But someone may write a hoax
and unwillingly translate spirit messages.
So In that way you have been inspired.
It is about what you have read, not what it says literally.
I hope you understand what I mean.

RBB

Pete Ross

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On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 02:45:02 +0100, Rainbowbird
<rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> wrote:

It sounds like you have been dreaming. Any information we read,
whether true or false, can cause us to have dreams to analyze the
content, but often times what we see is an illusion.

Rainbowbird

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> Pete;
> A Student of Shamanism

I knew I would be misunderstood.:)
But what the hack, it was worth trying.
RBB

E...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <
NqY82.124$R54.3...@NewsRead.Toronto.iST
AR.net>,

"Lau" <lau...@istar.ca> wrote:
> Wellll.... I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay....

"I never wanted to do this job in the first place!
I... I wanted to be...

A LUMBERJACK!

(piano vamp)

Leaping from tree to tree! As they float down the
mighty rivers of
British Columbia! With my best girl by my side!
The Larch!
The Pine!
The Giant Redwood tree!
The Sequoia!
The Little Whopping Rule Tree!
We'd sing! Sing! Sing!

Oh, I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay,
I sleep all night and I work all day.

CHORUS: He's a lumberjack, and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,
I go to the lava-try.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch,
He goes to the lava-try.
On Wednesdays 'e goes shoppin'
And has buttered scones for tea.

CHORUS

I cut down trees, I skip and jump,
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing,
And hang around in bars.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps,
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around.... In bars???????

CHORUS

I chop down trees, I wear high heels,
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he wears high heels
Suspendies?? and a .... a Bra????
(spoken, raggedly) What's this? Wants to be a *
girlie*? Oh, My!
And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!

CHORUS

All: He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaaaayyy.....
(BONG)"

> I thought I heard someone calling my name!

You must be psychic! Or you've been lurking!

> Parteee.!!!!!

Alright!!!!

> Reminds me of bush parties in high school, with the one asshole from
> Calgary blowing donuts in his truck in the middle of a field (no he
> didn't spill his beer)...

Blowing donuts? What the hey is that? Is it
something you do with bowel gas and matches?

> jumps out screams yeeehiiii then falls on
> his face (and no he didn't spill his beer).

The most important thing!

> Hey is the cabin still standing from last year?

Well, it was ... then a bunch of eager beavers came
through, chewed it apart, and built a dam in the
stream using the wood. So the stream stops just
outside of Shantytown now. It doesn't run to
Horsehitsville anymore. That suburb is a ghost
town these days.

> Wait a minute... weren't we going to take over Murica this time last
> year?

Yeah, but true to our national identity, we were
too apathetic to follow through.

> ....Oh I remember! It was because we ran outta beer.. remember.. and
> thiers sucked so bad we came back home and made potato moonshine...

The finest Canadian vodka in a tub ...

> good times...yup...good times.

Shine on, L'il BJ! Whatcha been up to? :-)

EE

BJ

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<E...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
7486kq$lps$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com...

>In article <
>NqY82.124$R54.3...@NewsRead.Toronto.iST
>AR.net>,
> "Lau" <lau...@istar.ca> wrote:

>
>You must be psychic! Or you've been lurking!
>

Well I was planning on lurking, but the first post I opened had the
ol' "where's BJ". I guess I'm not a very impeccable lurker? :-)


>> Parteee.!!!!!
>
>Alright!!!!
>
>> Reminds me of bush parties in high school, with the one asshole
from
>> Calgary blowing donuts in his truck in the middle of a field (no he
>> didn't spill his beer)...
>
>Blowing donuts? What the hey is that? Is it
>something you do with bowel gas and matches?
>

Hey that's illegal in most parts of the world!
You know the drive yer truck in really small circles, real tight like,
so the as end spins around... that thingy is blow'n a donut.


>> jumps out screams yeeehiiii then falls on
>> his face (and no he didn't spill his beer).
>
>The most important thing!
>
>> Hey is the cabin still standing from last year?
>
>Well, it was ... then a bunch of eager beavers came
>through, chewed it apart, and built a dam in the
>stream using the wood. So the stream stops just
>outside of Shantytown now. It doesn't run to
>Horsehitsville anymore. That suburb is a ghost
>town these days.
>

Mmmm, sounds like Shanty would make good moose country now...

>> Wait a minute... weren't we going to take over Murica this time
last
>> year?
>
>Yeah, but true to our national identity, we were
>too apathetic to follow through.
>

EE that's a taboo, aren't we supposed to cover that apathy with
nonsensical excuses, like...

" ....Oh I remember! It was because we ran outta beer.. remember.. and
thiers sucked so bad we came back home and made potato moonshine..."
>
>The finest Canadian vodka in a tub ...
>
>> good times...yup...good times.
>
>Shine on, L'il BJ! Whatcha been up to? :-)
>
>EE
>

We'll I'll say at risk of sounding indulgent and self important, which
I am...

Teaching meditation and doing healing/energy work with a facility here
in Vancouver with people that have life threatening disease.

And drinkin Stout of course(for the Muricans, that's the real dark
beer that you drink with a fork,)

Let's see... I'm dating a lesbian ( I think I get a toaster oven for
that)....
Have I ever mentioned that I am the only hetorsexual and only male in
the building that I live in (love life has literally been a lesbian
wedding)... Well that's finally pay off!

Oh?.. Oh I see that was a rhetorical question. ( sheesh am I
blushing?)

See ya round the bend
lil'b

Robotica

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In article <36619069...@news.viser.net> pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross) writes:
>From: pete...@viser.net (Pete Ross)
>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4 or (Where Does Truth Begin?)
>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:26:20 GMT

>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:10:55 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
>(Robotica) wrote:

>>In article <366089B9...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird


><rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>>>From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>

>>>Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4
>>>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0100
>>
>>>Robotica wrote:
>>>>

>>>> In article <365C658D...@cable.A2000.nl> Rainbowbird


>>><rainb...@cable.A2000.nl> writes:
>>>> >From: Rainbowbird <rainb...@cable.A2000.nl>

>>>> >Subject: Re: Dr. Spikes Bogus Journey Pt 4

>>>> >Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:16:13 +0100
>>>>
>>>> >Robotica wrote:
>>>> If you ever get a chance pick up "Oh Mercy" 1988 by Bob Dylan.
>>>>
>>>> I had a dream about him one time where he came to me and offered me a
>>>> lyric machine that looked like a monkeey grinders box.
>>>>
>>>> I just noded "No".
>>>>
>>>> Its like a dream game. Everybody offers each other all kinds of amazing
>>>> stuff and the trick is never to accept anything. Its a cool game.
>>>>
>>>> Keeps you in tip top shape for the waking world.
>>>>
>>>> Dylan Bob
>>>> Oh Mercy
>>>>
>>>> Man In The Long Black Coat
>>
>>>Had a dream last night.
>>>Actually there was a man in long black/dark coat.
>>>He tried to ring someone else, but the connection didn't work.
>>>The answering voice was kind of a robot voice. I couldn't hear what it
>>>said, before the connection was broken.
>>>I have never seen him before.He appeared out of nothing.
>>>RBB


>>
>> I was precalling a really cool scam.
>> http://www.wingmakers.com
>>
>> I love a good scam. Especially when the scammer
>> Convinces themselves of noble intentions

>Remember what Dr. Anderson said in one of his interviews? That after
>reading the material, the longer it was after you read it, the more
>cynical and disbelieving many would become? Well, before you said it
>might all be true; but now you are doing exactly what Dr. Anderson
>said was typical. I, on the other hand, am not saying it is true, nor
>untrue, but will reserve judgement until 2011, or until such time as
>it is proven, or unproven. You see, this is what I did with the CC
>material, and I only incorporated into my being that which I myself
>have SEEN, which is that we have a luminous body, and there is such a
>thing as dreaming in 2nd and 3rd attention states of heightened
>awareness. All the rest I have not seen, so I can't believe in the
>rest.

>Pete;
>A Student of Shamanism

Well, it was a 9.9 grade AAA scam Pete.
It was maybe aimed directly at my head aye uncle Pete.

To go into detail is to reveal to much personal history or maybe the
personal history of a character I have created that has on the one hand pissed
someone(s) off and on the other hand amused and fascinated them.
Suffice to say the hunt is over for me all tasks are completed.

A Qoutation from the "Book of Grumpington"

" A good trap must be set with a large measure of the truth even a
dangerous amount"

In Shantytown I,m a big fat juicy target. I like it that way.
Pancho from De Rancho calls it "Stalking the Stalkers"

I got a good laugh you got a cool fireball.

Dr. Spike

Pete Ross

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On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 03:57:09 LOCAL, Machi...@Fact-Factory.Org
(Robotica) wrote:

You lost me. What does the fireball have to do with The Wing Makers?
Connecting the two together seems rather presumptuous on your part.
You seem to think that I am in here to play games. I assure you I am
not.

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