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clave_scripts

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Mar 5, 2004, 12:02:26 AM3/5/04
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any more news on her?

i found an e-mail from her that had this in it:

The ego controls the assemblage point and projects the illlusory world into
subjects and objects. We work to remove the assemblage point from its control
and turn it over to the core Self.

chris rodgers

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Mar 5, 2004, 1:39:25 AM3/5/04
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"clave_scripts"wrote:

> any more news on her?

I'm working with her now.
I'll let you know if anything new happens.

We'll see. :)


rainbowbird

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Mar 6, 2004, 1:53:10 AM3/6/04
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"clave_scripts" <clave_...@spl.at> wrote in message
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UHHHHHHHHHHH................. This hurts my brain.
I can take a lot, but this really blasts the neurons.


Why can't we be our coreself just like that?
I think we can.
And enjoy our and others ego?
I think we can.


RBB


Jeremy Donovan

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Mar 6, 2004, 2:25:50 PM3/6/04
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"rainbowbird" <r...@sjamanism.com> wrote:

>"clave_scripts" <clave_...@spl.at> wrote in message
>news:47ac5482.04030...@posting.google.com...
>> any more news on her?
>>
>> i found an e-mail from her that had this in it:
>>
>> The ego controls the assemblage point and projects the illlusory world
>into
>> subjects and objects. We work to remove the assemblage point from its
>control
>> and turn it over to the core Self.
>
>UHHHHHHHHHHH................. This hurts my brain.
>I can take a lot, but this really blasts the neurons.

LOL. Cracking up here... :-)

>Why can't we be our coreself just like that?
>I think we can.
>And enjoy our and others ego?
>I think we can.

I'd love to see someone try NOT to be their "core self". It might
make a good TV show. As I've pointed out before, one's "core self"
involves *numerous* unconscious systems. Enjoying it is the option
all right.


-Jeremy

clave_scripts

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Mar 6, 2004, 7:52:00 PM3/6/04
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interesting questions - i'd hope you're right

maybe we can ask her about that?

cheers

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RoboDwarfe

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Mar 6, 2004, 10:20:12 PM3/6/04
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Jeremy Donovan wrote:

Nod, I am what I want to be.
he longest it takes to change atitudes for me or better said mental
strategies is about 3 days. Often I can simply enter a working or
creative trance state simply y wanting too.

rainbowbird

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Mar 7, 2004, 3:13:20 PM3/7/04
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"Jeremy Donovan" <Jere...@socal.spamming.rr.spammer.com> wrote in message


> I'd love to see someone try NOT to be their "core self". It might
> make a good TV show. As I've pointed out before, one's "core self"
> involves *numerous* unconscious systems. Enjoying it is the option
> all right.


The show is already going on and worldwide on channel 6 at the collective
network.
I am watching daily.
As a matter of fact there are many people that claim, the above is what they
are doing by having a personality at all, because they have been told that
is the
cause of not experiencing their coreself or whatever. And since they don't ,
they are ready to
believe any cause.
They have mostly no idea what an ego is, how can anyone, so they point to
caricatures of behavior because they stand out in anyone. They all of a
sudden see "EGO".
And if it is there, it can be a cause. It makes sense.

After having created that non existent problem with the help of others the
others also come up to help with a solution.
The solution here:
To reach for the coreself again, move the assemblagepoint.

Because it seems to work, how can it not as you have pointed out above
often people are led to believe there is something as an assemblage point.
or anything else for that matter. After all they have experienced something
they didn't before.
After the "healing" the show gets even better:

You are initiated now and allowed to bow on the altar of the holy
experience that cannot be questioned
in it's ever so ravishing trueness and let yourself fuck by it through
eternity.
It is no longer you having an experience, you allow the experience to have
you.
The experience allows you to make from it whatever you want.
It is a fair deal.
And since there is no such a thing as life without it either. .......
Welcome to the labyrinth of experience.
To be sure you can better have an Aridane and be a greek hero
before you meet the Minotaurus and get swallowed.


Want some of my assemblagepoints covered with chocolate? This will take a
while.
And they are out of popcorn.

RBB

clave_scripts

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Mar 7, 2004, 10:39:50 PM3/7/04
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despite my other comment i think if one can remain objective and note
any phenomena - it's worth experimenting with

thanks

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Jeremy Donovan

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Mar 8, 2004, 12:46:01 AM3/8/04
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"rainbowbird" <r...@sjamanism.com> wrote:

>"Jeremy Donovan" <Jere...@socal.spamming.rr.spammer.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> I'd love to see someone try NOT to be their "core self". It might
>> make a good TV show. As I've pointed out before, one's "core self"
>> involves *numerous* unconscious systems. Enjoying it is the option
>> all right.
>
>
>The show is already going on and worldwide on channel 6 at the collective
>network.
>I am watching daily.

Um, okay. Yup. And on that channel, the actors are all being their
"core selves" at every moment while doing a good job of acting out
their role of "seeking the core self". But this popular farce is now
in endless reruns which I've seen so many times there are no longer a
lot of laughs, so I usually switch over to the science channel.

Oh, that was good. :-)

I'm still on a bit of a "diet" as regards forgoing the farcical and
orgiastic feasts of "the search for the core self", but my core self
will have a chocolate or two anyhow, thanks.


-J.

rainbowbird

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Mar 9, 2004, 6:38:08 PM3/9/04
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"clave_scripts" <clave_...@spl.at> wrote in message
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> despite my other comment i think if one can remain objective and note
> any phenomena - it's worth experimenting with
>
> thanks


Despite my comment, I woudn't claim that experience is not worth making.
I have spent 20 years in making experiences alone and through others and I
profit from it daily.

I just found out that for me the pudding is not in the experience itself,
but what you make from it.

Happy hunting.


chris rodgers

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Mar 9, 2004, 6:51:15 PM3/9/04
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"rainbowbird" wrote:

> Despite my comment, I woudn't claim that experience is not worth making.
> I have spent 20 years in making experiences alone and through others and I
> profit from it daily.
> I just found out that for me the pudding is not in the experience itself,
> but what you make from it.

> Happy hunting.

Tonight I will find you dreaming Danni,
we will have that pudding wrestlemania
all out fun fest. Don't forget to not
wear clothes. :)


rainbowbird

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Mar 9, 2004, 7:25:44 PM3/9/04
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"Jeremy Donovan" <Jere...@socal.spamming.rr.spammer.com> wrote in message

> But this popular farce is now
> in endless reruns which I've seen so many times there are no longer a
> lot of laughs, so I usually switch over to the science channel.

Cool too. Science rocks.

> >
> >Want some of my assemblagepoints covered with chocolate? This will take a
> >while.
> >And they are out of popcorn.
>
> Oh, that was good. :-)
>
> I'm still on a bit of a "diet" as regards forgoing the farcical and
> orgiastic feasts of "the search for the core self", but my core self
> will have a chocolate or two anyhow, thanks.

In that case I will offer you two of my favorite " assemblage ":
Chocolate filled with a cherry and liquor.

And my coreself will have the other two.

Square and fair.

If you truly translate assemblegepoint you will get a point that has been
put together.
The word itself points to a construction.
At best it can be a mental construction, popular said a point of view, that
is assembled from experience.
knowledge and conditioning, feeling and analysing.

No way that it is a physical or even an energetic point, because those have
always a physical equivalent.
And any experience has the power to shift or influence your point of view.
The point is the pudding, the experience just an ingrediant.

Just concentrate on the word ass in assemblegepoint long enough and you will
know what I mean.
It leads to instant enlightenment of your coreself.

In the meantime I am nearly in Thailand.....

RBB

rainbowbird

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Mar 9, 2004, 7:34:53 PM3/9/04
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"chris rodgers" <cr...@att.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for the warning. I usually sleep without.
Just for you I will put on my
peachcolored long nighty.

And bring cocolate pudding and lots of it
and a silverspoon I can bent.

Sweet dreams !


chris rodgers

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Mar 10, 2004, 1:03:10 AM3/10/04
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"rainbowbird" wrote:

> Thanks for the warning. I usually sleep without.
> Just for you I will put on my
> peachcolored long nighty.

> And bring cocolate pudding and lots of it
> and a silverspoon I can bent.
> > Sweet dreams !

I'm such a bozo. I forgot there is an 8 hour
time difference. It's now 10:00 PM my time.
You're probably already up. Coffee? :)

clave_scripts

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:02:44 PM3/10/04
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"rainbowbird" <r...@sjamanism.com> wrote in message news:<Azs3c.17225$pN4....@amsnews03.chello.com>...

> I just found out that for me the pudding is not in the experience itself,
> but what you make from it.
>
> Happy hunting.

yes, maybe one day i'll revert to being more satisfied with my own
viewpoints, as i've been in the past . . . we each have our own
pathway(s), for now i'm questing and questioning - again ;)

i'll dig out the whole e-mail and post it here . . .

clave_scripts

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:05:36 PM3/10/04
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this is from a recent e-mail:

Cheyenne Maloney is one of the clearest teachers of
living-in-the-moment I have encountered through a life long quest for
understanding what it is to be a wakened human. She had a spontaneous
awakening to living in the present (the eternal now) and in that
discovered the nature of her mind. Her unique and extraordinarily
accessible approach is one that allows participants a Direct
Experience of their Being as totally apart from the thinking mind.
This experience can be somewhat earth-shattering due to the immediacy
of expansion such a split affords and yet it provides the direct
realization of what each of us is looking for, what we have been
seeking.

The mind has hijacked our life. Living through the mind is not living
- living is living in the peace of the heart, through the opening of a
latent conscious center that lies dormant in each of us. The direct
waking of this second seat of perception allows for an immediate
expansion of awareness that changes life forever. Most of us operate
through less than 10% of our conscious nature, yet our greatest
prowess with consciousness lies within the remaining 90% of our
totality. It is our birthright to directly experience the full range
of our conscious being.

Various patterns of thought and belief become trapped in our
unconscious and form our health, our awareness, and the totality of
everything we experience of ourselves and others in our "known world."
All of those things, and more, are realized - cognitized, if you will
- through the projectile force inset in the ordinary thinking mind.
When authentically released from a lifetime of networked beliefs and
identities, we are free to enter an authentic experience of who we
are. Quite beyond speculation, we directly encounter our innate being
as aspects of God. We realize that we are, indeed, capable of
remembering exactly who we are - not randomly, but exactly. For each
of us, our specifically unique nature and essence rises and wakens
through the perceptual corridors afforded when the mind is surpassed.
The assemblage point shift, once its mechanisms are embraced and
experienced directly, provides exactly this possibility.

This realization is the most exciting thing that can ever happen to a
human being, it surpasses every single thing we have thought ourselves
to be. It surpasses the state of our health, finances, and our
relationships. It surpasses thought. It even surpasses death. There is
nothing like it. There is nothing like you. You are unique. You are
needed in this life and in this world. Until you know yourself, until
you remember exactly who you are and how you entered the circumstances
of your life today, you are not available - not to yourself, or your
family, or to your relationships, or to the world.

You are perfect. All the cirumstances of your life have been perfectly
led in order to help you remember who and what you are. It is
important that you remember because you are needed. The world is
filled with challenge, many things are on the horizon of a struggling
humanity. You, the real you, needs you to remember yourself now. Those
in your life need you to remember now. The world needs you Now.

clave_scripts

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:07:03 PM3/10/04
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an earlier one:

What Is The Ego?

Often we think of the ego as something to do with arrogance or
self-importance. It is much more than that. The ego is a center of
awareness. It is surrounded by your personal identities and your known
world. And...you are much more than you know! You are also composed of
the unconscious, the unknown. The part of you that is currently
unknown to you contains vast quantities of chi or life force. It is
available to you.

The ego is a dynamic that rises early in life, normally around age
three. It names itself "I" as it comes into existence. Since it first
appeared in your young life, it has run an internal dialog, or a
series of networked thoughts, in your mind. The ego is describing you
to yourself. It is describing your world to you. If you listen, you
can hear it doing that.

Take a moment, right now. Place your hand on the center of your chest
and put your focus deep in your chest, behind your hand. Breathe. Now,
simply listen to your thoughts. Listen very carefully until you can
reproduce exactly what your thoughts are saying or imagining or
emoting.

Can you hear your thoughts? What are they saying? If you are clearly
able to hear your thoughts, you may soon realize that many of them are
nonsensical. Many of them are about the past or the future. Many of
them are involved with fear, control, and getting your needs met.
Consider that you have been thinking for so long that you've forgotten
that you have been listening to thoughts since you were a young child.
If you never had a thought but only listened to thoughts since you
were a tiny child, who would you be today?

The power of the assemblage point is that it has the ability to remove
control of your life from the ego, the thinking part of your mind. It
has the power to be handed over to the control of your soul, the part
of you that is deep in your body…the part of you that has been
listening to your thoughts all this time. If there were a mechanism
within you that could pry you free from your ego, would you find that
a valuable tool? That tool is the assemblage point. By offering its
light to the greater being within you, it is possible to gain access
to the vast reserves of knowing and life force that are currently
trapped in the unconscious. What you can achieve for your life, your
relationships, your health, and your wakened destiny are things that
can't be put into words, for they lie, literally, beyond the
imagination of the thinking mind.

Take time to explore the possibilities of the assemblage point, of the
authentic wakened heart. You have nothing to lose and everything to
gain.

clave_scripts

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:08:17 PM3/10/04
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an even earlier one:

The Assemblage Point

Your body is surrounded with a field of energy and light. This field
is called by many names, including the auric field or energy body. The
greatest intensity of the auric field radiates outward to a distance
of about three feet from the skin of the body. The assemblage point is
a strong and potent vortex of energy that tunnels, and actually
penetrates, all the way through the physical and energy body. The
energy of the assemblage point flows inward, toward the body at the
front and the back. Also, it flows outward, away from the body, both
at the front and the back.

When centralized and balanced, the primary potency of the assemblage
point radiates and pulses horizontally through the auric field,
parallel to the earth. In such case, we experience life ‘in the flow';
we are vital and excited about life. The future is bright, nearly as
bright as right now! Due to trauma and a variety of life's events and
experiences, combined with subtle aspects of awareness that cause us
to ‘take things personally,' the assemblage point can and often does
slip from its natural and balanced position. As it slips from balance,
it drops into a variety of locations within the energy body. Such
displacements reflect specific mental, physical, emotional, and
spiritual states of well-being, health, mood, and vitality.

Depression and Malaise

All of us experience a wide range of awareness during our life. Some
things make us feel happy, and other things can bring us down or make
us feel sad. Occasionally, events, whether they are experiential or
biological, can catapult us into states of depression. Such states are
related to a shift of the natural position of the assemblage point. If
it has slipped lower than the heart line in the physical form, we have
a sense that we've "lost heart," we feel "down." In such cases, the
assemblage point can be re-righted to its natural parallel position in
the auric field. States of depression and malaise "lift" as the
assemblage point vortex lifts and returns to balance.

Raising the position of the assemblage point is possible when
approached by a properly trained practitioner of the art of assemblage
point shifting. The results can be quite surprising and often
immediate. People who have struggled to rise from states of depression
or malaise for months, years, or cycles of years, are often thrilled
to find new methods, new tools that allow them to leave such states
behind. It is like climbing out of an old pair of pants. And yet, one
might immediately also see the cost.

Those who would re-enter the corridors of light and happiness may need
to pay a price for their newfound vitality. What price? For one thing,
the old pants. For another, many of the things they associated as "me"
as they wore those old pants. Who would that person be in the newer,
brighter, fun and more suitable pants? Well…that is what the work with
the assemblage point is all about! Exactly that answer is why so many
people are exploring this work as an effectual means of sustaining
newfound vitality and passion for living. It provides authentic and
real means to re-gain the vital, inspired, wakened life. And for some
who approach service to others, it offers a new and effectual method
to share the authentic forces of healing with family, friends, loved
ones, or clients.

clave_scripts

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:10:37 PM3/10/04
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and the one before my original post:

What is the Assemblage Point?

The assemblage point is a powerful tool that you can locate within an
expanded perceptual view. It is a remarkable tool and one that offers
the possibility
of establishing focus in ways not previously available to us. There is
no
doubt of its existence and the best way to know that is to experience
it
directly. It is tangible and easily recognized with a little guidance,
in your own way
and your own time.

Human beings are creatures of dual consciousness. We perceive the
world and
ourselves in the world through a lens of focus controlled by the
ordinary mind,
which is gripped by the ego's dynamic control. When the assemblage
point,
acting as a lens of focus, is handed over to the greater Self, the
part of us
that knows essence beyond a world projected into objects and subjects,
everything
changes. This allows the rise of new perceptions, we gain entirely new
realizations about our lives, our relationships, and our challenges.
While there is
no Pollyanna-type world that surfaces, through the process of
actualizing the
assemblage point, life presents us with a view of things filtered
through a
lens of unconditionality wherein all possibilities are restored and
made
possible in short order.

This work offers a grounded, pragmatic, and effective means with which
to
reach actualization, self-realization, and transcendence. We don't
work with
ideas taken from indigenous tribal people, yet many of those
communitites are
heard when one has the tools to more clearly hear their messages. We
work with
people from all over the world who travel internationally to gain an
understanding of the assemblage point. We work as modern day adults,
not as ancient native
tribes, or with unseen cosmic entities. We are forging our own way,
the way
of modern adults that are sober of thought, pragmatic, and grounded in
the
forces and unconditionality of the heart.

I hope you choose to expose yourself to this work, it is challenging
work and
what it offers is Real. It short order, it alters our health and
emotional
well-being, the way we perceive and function in our relationships, and
the
possibility of making profound differences in our society and the
world at large.
Our approach is not airy-fairy and does not include made-up belief
systems that
serve little but the imagination. We are working to bring the power of
wakened heart consciousness to our lives and our standing societal
systems, but
first that possibility must enter our own awareness and touch our own
lives. We
cannot offer others what we cannot first realize in our own daily
lives. If you
are done with all the manipulations and concepts that haven't worked
beyond
temporary surface results, give this "method" a try. It works!

chris rodgers

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:30:09 PM3/10/04
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"clave_scripts wrote:

> and the one before my original post:

Mr. Scripts, you know Cheyenne personally?
Have you had your AP shifted by her or
any of her associates?

If so private e-mail me ok?

Chris Rodgers :)


Jeremy Donovan

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:08:05 AM3/11/04
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clave_...@spl.at (clave_scripts) wrote:

>Living through the mind is not living
>- living is living in the peace of the heart

Optimal living is living with both the heart and the mind.

So you can see right away that this person just polarizes on the other
side of a false dilemma.

It's not the mind it's the heart -- hardcore believer
It's not the heart it's the mind -- hardcore skeptic
It's both. How hard is that? -- Jeremy Donovan

(engaging in child's play)


clave_scripts

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Mar 11, 2004, 9:57:07 AM3/11/04
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"chris rodgers" <cr...@att.net> wrote in message news:<lXR3c.188562$hR.34...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

no i don't know her personally, though she did e-mail me a few times
in answer to my questions and research on the AP

also, no i haven't and am thinking to try it if i have the
opportunity, time, and extra funds to do so

i got all of the info. i posted from cheyenne's e-mail announcements,
which you probably have received as well

chris rodgers

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Mar 11, 2004, 10:33:54 AM3/11/04
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"clave_scripts" wrote:

> no i don't know her personally, though she did e-mail me a few times
> in answer to my questions and research on the AP

You are doing research on the assemblage point?
How interesting. Ever talk to Jon Whale or Swiftdeer Reagan?

> also, no i haven't and am thinking to try it if i have the
> opportunity, time, and extra funds to do so
> i got all of the info. i posted from cheyenne's e-mail announcements,
> which you probably have received as well

She has worked with me before.
I am working with her now.
The words don't mean a thing.
All intellectual doing, means little to
the actual real experience of the shift. :)


small tortoiseshell

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Mar 11, 2004, 4:23:02 PM3/11/04
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"chris rodgers" <cr...@att.net> wrote in message news:<CF%3c.869$Pa7....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> "clave_scripts" wrote:
>
> > no i don't know her personally, though she did e-mail me a few times
> > in answer to my questions and research on the AP
>
> You are doing research on the assemblage point?
> How interesting. Ever talk to Jon Whale or Swiftdeer Reagan?

this has nothing to do with the topic really, but i cant help laughing
every time i see these names ... sorry ... i think its a european
thing maybe, it sounds so immensely pretentious the mixture of native
american names like swift-deer, and reagan ... cant help but seeing
the olman raking leaves into his pool ... hmm, i-m definitely going
nuts ...


>
> > also, no i haven't and am thinking to try it if i have the
> > opportunity, time, and extra funds to do so
> > i got all of the info. i posted from cheyenne's e-mail announcements,
> > which you probably have received as well
>
> She has worked with me before.
> I am working with her now.
> The words don't mean a thing.
> All intellectual doing, means little to
> the actual real experience of the shift. :)

so why do you talk obsessively about it?

chris rodgers

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Mar 11, 2004, 6:42:46 PM3/11/04
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"small tortoiseshell wrote:

> this has nothing to do with the topic really,

You should have quit right there.

> but i cant help laughing
> every time i see these names ... sorry ... i think its a european
> thing maybe, it sounds so immensely pretentious the mixture of native
> american names like swift-deer, and reagan ... cant help but seeing
> the olman raking leaves into his pool ... hmm, i-m definitely going
> nuts ...

Yes if you actually knew what you were talking about
you would be laffing at yourself now. This person you are
referring to above IS part native american and part Irish.
Big deal. So am I. We all have something in us.
Some more than others. (caca)

> so why do you talk obsessively about it?

I don't talk obsessively about it.
Geez, I mention it from time to time.
I'm trying to find out MORE about it.
Don't get me started. :)


clave_scripts

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Mar 11, 2004, 8:39:56 PM3/11/04
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"chris rodgers" <cr...@att.net> wrote in message news:<CF%3c.869$Pa7....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> You are doing research on the assemblage point?
> How interesting. Ever talk to Jon Whale or Swiftdeer Reagan?
>

no i haven't spoken with them and my research is not as in depth as
yours, in anything castaneda, or for that matter lucid dreaming too

am i getting on your wrong side? anyway, if you have a problem with
me posting what cheyenne sends out in her e-mail bulletins just say
so, i may not like what you say at first but maybe it will make me
think, and change how i view things!


>
> She has worked with me before.
> I am working with her now.
> The words don't mean a thing.

i agree

> All intellectual doing, means little to
> the actual real experience of the shift. :)

agreed - i'd like to experience it, more, too

chris rodgers

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Mar 11, 2004, 9:00:21 PM3/11/04
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"clave_scripts writes:

> no i haven't spoken with them and my research is not as in depth as
> yours, in anything castaneda, or for that matter lucid dreaming too

Aha ha ha. I don't "do" research. Research is for intellectuals.
I'm not very intellectual, big surprise huh? lol!

> am i getting on your wrong side?

No. No one gets on my "wrong side" because
I don't have a wrong side to get on. Everything
that happens IS suppose to happen. I might have
some feeling (but that's my problem) about what
happens, but don't let that scare you away.

> anyway, if you have a problem with
> me posting what cheyenne sends out in her e-mail bulletins just say

It's your business what you do. It matters little to me
what others do. I doubt seriously though that Cheyenne
needs your assistance with those e-mails. She does have
her own web site, in fact I think she has two sites now.

> so, i may not like what you say at first but maybe it will make me
> think, and change how i view things!

Ya never know. Hopefully you are changing
how you view things daily. I know I am.
And I'm practically a Mr. Magoo.
{I can hear Slider in the peanut gallery saying
whata mean "practically"?} lol!

> i agree

> agreed - i'd like to experience it, more, too

I haven't had my AP shifted (yet).
AP has moved around a little but
has not been shifted. I'm getting
to that soon, I hope. First things first,
a platform has to be built then the shift
can be made. But here's something you
and everyone else can do in the meantime.
If YOU are interested in doing the work
you can do a meditation with your hands
over your heart while listening to a particular
CD that is available. Look at the details
on her site for instructions. She describes
in detail how to do it. Anyone can do it.
You don't have to be anything special to do it.
Think of it as path FOR your heart v. a path
with heart. I'd like to see everyone who writes
at this newsgroup give it a try but I know we
have some mighty skeptical peeps around here.
So desiring that someone (here) do that is
almost out of the question, so, why should I
even bother? lol! I was thinking of sending
a CD to Rainbowbird just for the hell of it.
I firmly believe she would benefit from using it.
She seems to be the ONE with the open heart
here. Now don't get me wrong there are others
here that have an open heart too. It's just too
bad their ego gets in the way MOST of the time.
I still have an ego (tator head, mr. potatoe head)
but I working on opening my heart more and giving
that more attention than my god damn fucking ego.
At last after 32 years I think I am getting back on
track. I got detoured back in 1972. Must of took
a wrong turn huh? Geez, I better stop now, look
how I am ranting. What has gotten into me? :)


small tortoiseshell

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"chris rodgers" <cr...@att.net> wrote in message news:<WP64c.2242$Pa7....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> "small tortoiseshell wrote:
>
> > this has nothing to do with the topic really,
>
> You should have quit right there.

yes, you guys were deep into the mystery here, sorry for interrupting,
lol...


>
> > but i cant help laughing
> > every time i see these names ... sorry ... i think its a european
> > thing maybe, it sounds so immensely pretentious the mixture of native
> > american names like swift-deer, and reagan ... cant help but seeing
> > the olman raking leaves into his pool ... hmm, i-m definitely going
> > nuts ...
>
> Yes if you actually knew what you were talking about
> you would be laffing at yourself now.

maybe i am anyways :)

This person you are
> referring to above IS part native american and part Irish.
> Big deal. So am I. We all have something in us.
> Some more than others. (caca)

the irish part i can believe;) i myself am a pure-blooded natural born
native green-eyed nazi-dwarf of the polar region, all this crap runs
in my blood, lol... eheyeh, come on, just because youre brooming your
selfimportance in public doesnt mean you have to get you nick in a
twist when i say something that doesnt match the level of 'depth' you
and clave are 'researching' into with all this baloney talk?



>
> > so why do you talk obsessively about it?
>
> I don't talk obsessively about it.

oh no? the word a.p. is your bloody mantra man!

> Geez, I mention it from time to time.
> I'm trying to find out MORE about it.
> Don't get me started. :)

as if you werent running already?! :)

Terry Firma

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Mar 12, 2004, 5:19:04 AM3/12/04
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> > no i haven't spoken with them and my research is not as in depth as
> > yours, in anything castaneda, or for that matter lucid dreaming too
>
> Aha ha ha. I don't "do" research. Research is for intellectuals.
> I'm not very intellectual, big surprise huh? lol!

No surprise at all. Everybody knows you're a fucking moron!

> > am i getting on your wrong side?
>
> No. No one gets on my "wrong side" because
> I don't have a wrong side to get on. Everything
> that happens IS suppose to happen. I might have
> some feeling (but that's my problem) about what
> happens, but don't let that scare you away.

Nobody gets scared. We might have a problem controlling our laughter,
though.

> > agreed - i'd like to experience it, more, too
>
> I haven't had my AP shifted (yet).
> AP has moved around a little but
> has not been shifted.

Because you're a fucking imbecile.

I'm getting
> to that soon, I hope. First things first,
> a platform has to be built then the shift
> can be made. But here's something you
> and everyone else can do in the meantime.
> If YOU are interested in doing the work
> you can do a meditation with your hands
> over your heart while listening to a particular
> CD that is available. Look at the details
> on her site for instructions. She describes
> in detail how to do it. Anyone can do it.

Oh, aren't you the lucky one.

> You don't have to be anything special to do it.
> Think of it as path FOR your heart v. a path
> with heart. I'd like to see everyone who writes
> at this newsgroup give it a try but I know we
> have some mighty skeptical peeps around here.
> So desiring that someone (here) do that is
> almost out of the question, so, why should I
> even bother? lol! I was thinking of sending
> a CD to Rainbowbird just for the hell of it.
> I firmly believe she would benefit from using it.

Yeah, but then again; who gives a fuck what you believe.

> She seems to be the ONE with the open heart
> here. Now don't get me wrong there are others
> here that have an open heart too.

You know all about it, don't you?

It's just too
> bad their ego gets in the way MOST of the time.
> I still have an ego (tator head, mr. potatoe head)

You sure are a potato head.

> but I working on opening my heart more and giving
> that more attention than my god damn fucking ego.
> At last after 32 years I think I am getting back on
> track. I got detoured back in 1972. Must of took
> a wrong turn huh? Geez, I better stop now, look
> how I am ranting. What has gotten into me? :)

The devil and his little demon helpers. It's a big black thing, and it's
crawling up your asshole.

slider

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Mar 12, 2004, 6:06:00 AM3/12/04
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chris wrote ...


Ya never know. Hopefully you are changing
how you view things daily. I know I am.
And I'm practically a Mr. Magoo.
{I can hear Slider in the peanut gallery saying
whata mean "practically"?} lol!

### - telepathy! (lol :))


but I working on opening my heart more and giving
that more attention than my god damn fucking ego.

### - lol chris... it's when 'little' chris starts tellin' big-chris
what to do is where all the problems start? (j/k:)


At last after 32 years I think I am getting back on
track. I got detoured back in 1972. Must of took
a wrong turn huh? Geez, I better stop now, look
how I am ranting. What has gotten into me? :)

### - smile, once that heart-centre of yours starts fully opening you
must realise intellectually-wise you'll turn into a babbling idiot
don't ya know... but then this is 'bound' to happen if/when people
lose their minds?

on the other hand... some people lose their mind and there's no
fuckin' difference at all! (lol:)

(this was just a 'wind-up' by the way ;-)


slider

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Mar 12, 2004, 6:37:28 AM3/12/04
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Terry Firma wrote

>
> Aha ha ha. I don't "do" research. Research is for intellectuals.
> I'm not very intellectual, big surprise huh? lol!

No surprise at all. Everybody knows you're a fucking moron!

### - now-now terry... surely you know that 'losing one's mind' and
'being a moron' are 2 totally different issues in here :)


> I haven't had my AP shifted (yet).
> AP has moved around a little but
> has not been shifted.

Because you're a fucking imbecile.

### - lol hardly that... a bit pig-headed on occasion... plus slow
sometimes to catch-on maybe (wink to chris;) but the man obviously has
an open + honest heart one can always address anytime:)


The devil and his little demon helpers. It's a big black thing, and
it's crawling up your asshole.

### - too many of those foaming beers for terry i reckon...

bartender, can i perchance borrow your long stick with the hook on it
to try and poke my friend terry back down off the ceiling :):)


Terry Firma

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Mar 12, 2004, 4:05:20 PM3/12/04
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> > I haven't had my AP shifted (yet).
> > AP has moved around a little but
> > has not been shifted.
>
> Because you're a fucking imbecile.
>
> ### - lol hardly that... a bit pig-headed on occasion... plus slow
> sometimes to catch-on maybe (wink to chris;) but the man obviously has
> an open + honest heart one can always address anytime:

Well, it wasn't his heart I was adressing. But, yeah, maybe I got a little
bit carried away... So, my apologies to Chris if I've been really unfair
(and I probably was).

> The devil and his little demon helpers. It's a big black thing, and
> it's crawling up your asshole.
>
> ### - too many of those foaming beers for terry i reckon...
>
> bartender, can i perchance borrow your long stick with the hook on it
> to try and poke my friend terry back down off the ceiling :):)

I'm down.


slider

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Mar 12, 2004, 6:17:21 PM3/12/04
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Terry Firma wrote...

> > I haven't had my AP shifted (yet).
> > AP has moved around a little but
> > has not been shifted.
>
> Because you're a fucking imbecile.
>

> - lol hardly that... a bit pig-headed on occasion... plus slow
sometimes to catch-on maybe (wink to chris;) but the man obviously has
> an open + honest heart one can always address anytime:

Well, it wasn't his heart I was adressing. But, yeah, maybe I got
a little bit carried away... So, my apologies to Chris if I've been
really unfair (and I probably was).

>
The devil and his little demon helpers. It's a big black thing, and
> it's crawling up your asshole.
>

> - too many of those foaming beers for terry i reckon...
>
bartender, can i perchance borrow your long stick with the hook on it
> to try and poke my friend terry back down off the ceiling :):)

I'm down.

### - smile... well done + have a nice weekend t :)


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