Disneyland "Park"
Craig Arbour
Disneyland from falling into the public domain. So it was for copyright
reasons they put it back in.
Craig
CAnder1755 wrote in message
<19990209195553...@ng-ce1.aol.com>...
>>Whats up with these ads that refer to Disneyland "Park" or Disneyland
>>"Resort."
>
> actually i might be mistaken but i think walt orignally called it
>DIsneyland "park"........anyone correct me if i am wrong but i thought
htere
>was some copyright/legal issues the past 10 or so years so they took of the
>"park" part and now they just re-added it.........am i wrong?? anyone post
in
>response if i am worng
> CANDER1755....
> FLAME resistant Mo' Fo'
Al Lutz
> Whats up with these ads that refer to Disneyland
> concerned, Walt named the place DISNEYLAND.
> Why do they have to mess with everything?
Actually Richard, it has been called "Disneyland Park" since almost the
beginning. If you look at some of the first guide books from 1955, they
utilize that term almost all the time.
When Disneyland first opened, it was felt people wouldn't know quite what it
was supposed to be - hence the use of the term park. Now of course, they
can focus on that term to help distinguish the different areas of the whole
resort.
In a way I think it's a good idea they continue to use the name properly -
it keeps the park foremost in how the whole think is identified. And after
seeing what is coming in DCA, they will need that strong I.D. - that's for
sure. :)
Al
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>
> In a way I think it's a good idea they continue to use the name properly -
> it keeps the park foremost in how the whole think is identified. And after
> seeing what is coming in DCA, they will need that strong I.D. - that's for
> sure. :)
... Jumping up on my soap box
I only wish the tram spielers would get it right. Frequently they say
"Welcome to the Magic Kingdom" Well, at least know what coast I am on.
Magic Kingdom = (right coast [FL]), Disneyland = (Left coast [CA]).
Yeah, I know it is The Magic Kingdom *of* Disneyland, but too many
spielers leave off the "of Disneyland" part and just say the "Magic
Kingdom" part.
Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to the phrase "The Magic Kingdom of
Disneyland", but *not* just "The Magic Kingdom" when referring to
Disneyland.
Falling off my soap box...
CU@DL
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Souplexer
Magical Little Park across from the studio. It then grew to a "Land,"
hence..Disneyland. I remember him refering to Disneyland as his park or the
Magic Kingdom, Happiest Place on Earth..etc, but never as Disneyland Park.
Sounds redundant...The marquis out front says Disneyland, the dedication plaque
in front of the flagpole says Disneyland....maybe I'm wrong, I just never
heard him say it ....
Richard H.
Werner W. Weiss
Take a look at http://www.mcs.net/~werner/welcome.html and
you'll see that in 1974, the sign on Harbor Boulevard showed
"Disneyland Park & Hotel - Entrance" (with "Disneyland" in
big letters and the rest on a single line underneath).
Now having said that, I'm not aware of any other cases where
the expression "Disneyland Park" was used during the 1950s,
1960s, or 1970s. When I do research for Yesterland, I often
read up in old books, brochures, and Disney News magazines.
They all just refer to "Disneyland," not "Disneyland Park."
I'm sure there must be some exceptions. For example, I
wouldn't be surprised if there are some references to
"Disneyland park" (with "park" not necessarily capitalized)
in text which primarily deals with the Disneyland Hotel.
Now that Disney is building the "Disneyland Resort" -- a
complex of two theme parks, three hotels, and Downtown Disney,
it makes some sense to use the term "Disneyland Park" for
the original park.
Also, I used to carpool with a lawyer who explained to me
that trademarks, service marks, and registered trademarks
need to be used as adjectives to describe something else.
Hence, we see Tide(R) Detergent, not just Tide, or Scotch(R)
brand Adhesive Tape, not just Scotch Tape.
At least they're not calling it "Disneyland brand theme park."
-- Werner Weiss ** A Visit to Yesterland **
<wer...@mcs.com> http://www.yesterland.com
LQAKWolf
In article <36C229F1...@mcs.com>, "Werner W. Weiss" <wer...@mcs.com>
writes:
>Take a look at http://www.mcs.net/~werner/welcome.html and
>you'll see that in 1974, the sign on Harbor Boulevard showed
>"Disneyland Park & Hotel - Entrance" (with "Disneyland" in
>big letters and the rest on a single line underneath).
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know when the sign in it's current form was
built? Also, I may be mistaken, but didn't there used to be some sort of small
sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
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>
>CU@DL
>
>Andy D
>
I think you were pushed off! ;) hehe
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CAnder1755
>Falling off my soap box...
>>
>>CU@DL
>I think you were pushed off! ;) hehe
No actually he was shot off.....TWAT!!! TWAT!!!.............fo' sho'
CANDER1755....
I am one FLAME resistant mo' fo'
GingerX
>
> In article <36C229F1...@mcs.com>, "Werner W. Weiss" <wer...@mcs.com>
> writes:
>
> >Take a look at http://www.mcs.net/~werner/welcome.html and
> >you'll see that in 1974, the sign on Harbor Boulevard showed
> >"Disneyland Park & Hotel - Entrance" (with "Disneyland" in
> >big letters and the rest on a single line underneath).
>
> Just out of curiousity, does anyone know when the sign in it's current form was
> built?
I remember seeing it be installed in mid 1989. I hear we are getting a
brand new one soon
> Also, I may be mistaken, but didn't there used to be some sort of small
> sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
>
Don't recall that.
GX
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>
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>was
>small
>sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
This new since was put up circa 1990 - in time for DL's 35th anniversary. I
remember driving up to the entrance for a time and seeing both the old and new
sign on Harbor, side by side. Don't know about the West St. signs, though. :)
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LQAKWolf
In article <36C2B0...@geocities.com>, GingerX <gin...@geocities.com>
writes:
>> Also, I may be mistaken, but didn't there used to be some sort of small
>> sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
>>
>Don't recall that.
>
>GX
Just to clarify, the sign in question, if it existed, was north on West St.,
somewhat close to Ball. I seem to remember it being not much larger than your
average sign for a small liquor store, etc. It was backlit, and I think it was
mostly in reds and oranges. It just said "Disneyland" (or maybe "Disneyland
Park!" : ) ), and I *think* it might have said something about a West St.
entrance. The reason I ask is that I remember being about 8-years-old, and
seeing this sign on my very first time driving by the park, rather than the
main gate sign (my father took a wrong turn, if I remember right), and being
absolutely crushed that maybe Disneyland would not match up to all I had hoped
it would be, since all I could see was the sign, and an ivy-covered berm, which
somehow I equated to surrounding a *real* park (grass, benches, etc.), instead
of my dream Disneyland. It was dusk, and we were going to our hotel first, and
then we would visit Disneyland in the morning. I remember being so worried,
but I didn't want to tell anyone, because I didn't want to ruin it for them.
Needless to say, my fears were assuaged and more the next morning! : )
BTW, does anyone have a pic of the Harbor Blvd. sign, circa 1985? If so
(Werner, I'm sure YOU have one, if nobody else : ) ), could you e-mail it to
me? My browser is having problems (again!), and I'd love to see it. Thanks!
AK Wolf
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Al Lutz
> The items I have from the early 1960's refer
> to Walt Disney's Disneyland
You know guys, this is driving me crazy! ;) I swear somewhere I saw guide
books or maps that said "Disneyland Park" from around the late fifties or
early sixties. I'll keep looking around to see where it was I saw that [it
wasn't in Nickel Tour or Van France's book]. And I clearly remember, as a
kid, that term used somehow when visiting the park.
I think my first stop on Sunday will be at the Disneyland Hotel where they
have that huge collage of memorabilia in a showcase across from the
convention center main room. If I see something there that might help
confirm that, I'll take a photo and post it. :)
rlm...@my-dejanews.com
In article <36C229F1...@mcs.com>,
wer...@mcs.com wrote:
> Souplexer wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure about that Al? Seems that Walt wanted to call his 1st idea as
a
> > Magical Little Park across from the studio. It then grew to a "Land,"
> > hence..Disneyland. I remember him refering to Disneyland as his park or the
> > Magic Kingdom, Happiest Place on Earth..etc, but never as Disneyland Park.
> > Sounds redundant...The marquis out front says Disneyland, the dedication
plaque
> > in front of the flagpole says Disneyland....maybe I'm wrong, I just never
> > heard him say it ....
> > Richard H.
>
> Take a look at http://www.mcs.net/~werner/welcome.html and
> you'll see that in 1974, the sign on Harbor Boulevard showed
> "Disneyland Park & Hotel - Entrance" (with "Disneyland" in
> big letters and the rest on a single line underneath).
>
> Now having said that, I'm not aware of any other cases where
> the expression "Disneyland Park" was used during the 1950s,
> 1960s, or 1970s. When I do research for Yesterland, I often
> read up in old books, brochures, and Disney News magazines.
> They all just refer to "Disneyland," not "Disneyland Park."
>
> I'm sure there must be some exceptions. For example, I
> wouldn't be surprised if there are some references to
> "Disneyland park" (with "park" not necessarily capitalized)
> in text which primarily deals with the Disneyland Hotel.
>
> Now that Disney is building the "Disneyland Resort" -- a
> complex of two theme parks, three hotels, and Downtown Disney,
> it makes some sense to use the term "Disneyland Park" for
> the original park.
>
> Also, I used to carpool with a lawyer who explained to me
> that trademarks, service marks, and registered trademarks
> need to be used as adjectives to describe something else.
> Hence, we see Tide(R) Detergent, not just Tide, or Scotch(R)
> brand Adhesive Tape, not just Scotch Tape.
>
> At least they're not calling it "Disneyland brand theme park."
>
> -- Werner Weiss ** A Visit to Yesterland **
> <wer...@mcs.com> http://www.yesterland.com
>
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> >you'll see that in 1974, the sign on Harbor Boulevard showed
> >"Disneyland Park & Hotel - Entrance" (with "Disneyland" in
> >big letters and the rest on a single line underneath).
>
> sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
October 6, 1989.
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Disneyland Park, though I could have sworn that it's been called this since
opening.
I even checked a Spring of 1976 Disneyland today, and found nothing.
Andrew
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> >> sign in reds and oranges somewhere on West St. back in the early '80s?
> >>
> >
> >GX
>
> Just to clarify, the sign in question, if it existed, was north on West St.,
> somewhat close to Ball. I seem to remember it being not much larger than your
> average sign for a small liquor store, etc. It was backlit, and I think it was
> mostly in reds and oranges. It just said "Disneyland" (or maybe "Disneyland
> Park!" : ) ), and I *think* it might have said something about a West St.
> entrance.
Dunno about this for sure, but I, too, remember a smallish sign like
this--can't recall it's location, but I remember such a small-ish
directional sign on the west side of the park--actually thinking it was
probably more familiar than the huge sign since, when I was a kid, we
usually stayed at the DLH. In fact, driving in, seeing the big sign,
*still* seems strange (and wonderful) to me--despite the fact that I've
done so more than a few times now.
The reason I ask is that I remember being about 8-years-old, and
> seeing this sign on my very first time driving by the park, rather than the
> main gate sign (my father took a wrong turn, if I remember right), and being
> absolutely crushed that maybe Disneyland would not match up to all I had hoped
> it would be, since all I could see was the sign, and an ivy-covered berm, which
> somehow I equated to surrounding a *real* park (grass, benches, etc.), instead
> of my dream Disneyland. It was dusk, and we were going to our hotel first, and
> then we would visit Disneyland in the morning. I remember being so worried,
> but I didn't want to tell anyone, because I didn't want to ruin it for them.
> Needless to say, my fears were assuaged and more the next morning! : )
Yay for happy endings! Golly, I could feel the child-you's
disappointment!
Lisa