screenreader access falls off after computer runs for a while/mostly effects t-bird/sometimes ms-word?
bando?ers
got a msg saying that there was no recipient named...weird, and then it
appears that the whole txt of msg was lost when I tried to edit draft
for the second time? good thing I saved a copy in my txt editor.
B.H.(going crazier)
---- ---- Mensaje original --------
Asunto:looks like the addresses got overwritten in the original/can't
win for losing today/at least I can still read all the fields in t-bird.
B.H.
Change in screenreader access after running a while?
Fecha: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:02:19 -0500
De: bando?ers <burt1...@gmail.com>
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I will probably put this out there on some other groups, but since you
folks have suffered through my badly or not edited posts and and
empty fwds, so I thought I'd ask you first.
I just rebooted, and Jaws and pre-release NVDA work fine with
thunderbird 2.23,(don't know if I should wait for official release of
tb3 or go for a betta) but this won't last too long. I am still
trying to
isolate any particular action that is more of a trigger, but after a
while they both stop giving access to any editable fields including the
msg body. Sometimes there is an intermediate stage where I can read
address and subject fields, at least when tabbing through, but can't
edit msgs. Sometimes one screenreader works better than the other in
this phase. I will try and see how long I can go with out opening media
players, and other resource intensive aps, and I won't hibernate the
box to see if session length itself is enough to send access packing.
(think may be, but it does at least last longer)
It is a Dell laptop running XP/a bit buggy, but almost never freezes on
me, and no other programs give me much trouble. (no blue screens, and a
normal number of program freezes; this program does not respond error.
MS word is a
bit quirky, but it isn't updated, and sometimes firefox and a
screenreader crash together, but don't know which causes the other to
fail.btw. don't suggest ie: it crashes more than firefox/almost never
use it.
Any ideas? Re-starting screenreaders almost never helps. I am pretty
sure that JAWS video intercept doesn't ever work well, so it must be a
virtual
buffer thing that breaks as nvda has no video intercept and both readers
go down at close to the same time. When I have checked available memory
and
virtual memory I always seem to have enough.
Hope someone has an explanation.
Burt Henry
p.s. I ran winamp for a couple of minutes to check an incomplete
d-load, and nothing would read me my out going msgs after that.
Steve Urbach
<drago...@NOTmindspring.com>
wrote:
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You Like Malware?
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I must; I'm using Windows.
Brian Gaff
where the thing is reported as being.
Brian
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bando?ers
I am using jaws 10.x (a tweaked beta ever) and NVDA. The NVDA that
works with t-bird is the pre-release that I d-loaded when we wrote back
in July, and with other programs I often switch to one of the
snapshots/think this one is maybe six weeks old.
Brian Gaff escribi�:
> So which screenreader is this with?
I can read all of the menus with both, (even the NVDA snaps which don't
read editable txt), and they both give me the names of the txt fields or
boxes where I am, but won't read me the txt it self. Like I say, both
screenreaders work pretty well right after a boot, and sometimes for a
good while. NVDA reads t-bird error msgs, JAWS only says I have an
error.
It sounds to me as if your cursor is not
> where the thing is reported as being.
I don't know all of the shortcut keys in JAWS, but the time I tried to
check out a ms g's txt with the "invisible cursor" didn't find anything.
Any clues? I think you don't use JAWS, but NVDA ideas would be just as
appreciated.
Burt
Brian Gaff
sounds like computer problems, not screenreader problems to me.
Sounds like a job for removing any security software and seeing if that
helps.
Of course if Jaws is like other readers and leaves its display chain driver
in when it is not running it could be some interaction between this and the
video drivers.
Brian
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bando?ers
that I won't consider formatting...fresh install, and all that is
entailed until I have my old computer fixed to use for work, and a
couple of weeks with extra free time, and maybe I'll wait a while after
that.
that I won
Brian Gaff escribi�:
> Well if the loss of reader is on both even when run separately, then it
> sounds like computer problems, not screenreader problems...
snip
The NVDA install are good for sure, but there may be some issues with
JAWS installation. Got a tip on a focus change hotkey for virtual
cursor in JAWS that might make a difference, and going to NVDA beta
looks promising for better word and t-bird support. The problems seem
to aggravate when a lot is going on in virtual memory.
>
> Sounds like a job for removing any security software and seeing if that
>
Doubt it, my anti virus and spyware arsenal is effective, and except for
AVG everything scans when I want/need it to, no conflicts, and I can
always disable the AVG daily scan if I'm really needing computing power
at that time of day. I am looking at winamp as a trigger for my
problems/ after streaming a bit of web-radio, or listening to some
saved audio things go south, and usually don't come back with out a
reboot. There used to be an option called "always on top" for winamp,
but as the only controls I can find in my current install are hotkeys,
and context menus. In winamp 4.x I had a setup that gave me controls
from standard windows type menus accessed by hitting "alt" If anyone
knows how to disable the "always on top" behavior in winamp 5.x, please...
> Of course if Jaws is like other readers and leaves its display chain driver
> in when it is not running it could be some interaction between this and the
> video drivers.
That is another likely culprit as I switch on the fly between JAWS and
an installer ever of an NVDA snap from more than a month ago, and the
"pre-release" ever installed from the portable zip package that I run
with a hotkey out of a sub-dir in my doc. Yes, jaws does leave some
stuff in waiting when it has been switched off. I started playing
around with a manual memory cleaning utility, but didn't get far enough
to know anything. (auto mem cleaning screws everything up, as I have a
gb and a half on an XP box)(really slows screenreaders down, and
memory cleaning could only help after killing processes with a task
manager) Come to think of it, that is the other ap that doesn't work
well in these troublesome moments/one of my favorites-sysinternals
processexplorer. That's the one I would want to go in and kill anything
I just looked at the what's new in the NVDA beta page, and there is
some good stuff there, some of which works in the snap I am
using...maybe there is some way to change focus behavior that I don't
know? Some cool hotkey? Are you using the 2009 beta ever, or snapshots?
Burt Henry
Brian