We live in interesting times - "Is lying about one’s identity on the Internet now a crime?"
Fred Doyle
"The verdict Wednesday in the MySpace cyberbullying case raised a
variety of questions about the terms that users agree to when they log
on to Web sites.
"The defendant in the case, a Missouri woman, was convicted by a federal
jury in Los Angeles on three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for
having misrepresented herself on the popular social network MySpace."
..."MySpace’s terms of service require users to submit “truthful and
accurate” registration information. Ms. Drew’s creation of a phony
profile amounted to “unauthorized access” to the site, prosecutors said,
a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986."
Hmmm...is that a chill I feel in the air?
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
Unfortunetly for those jurors...the backlash is going to be like
nothing they can imagine...their lives are about to ripped apart in
ways they never even imagines. `, )
...I'm going to use my "big" voice on this one. ^__^
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
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Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
Fred Doyle
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:58:39 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From today's NY times
>>
>> "The verdict Wednesday in the MySpace cyberbullying case raised a
>> variety of questions about the terms that users agree to when they log
>> on to Web sites.
>>
>> "The defendant in the case, a Missouri woman, was convicted by a federal
>> jury in Los Angeles on three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for
>> having misrepresented herself on the popular social network MySpace."
>>
>> ..."MySpace’s terms of service require users to submit “truthful and
>> accurate” registration information. Ms. Drew’s creation of a phony
>> profile amounted to “unauthorized access” to the site, prosecutors said,
>> a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986."
>>
>> Hmmm...is that a chill I feel in the air?
>
> Unfortunetly for those jurors...the backlash is going to be like
> nothing they can imagine...their lives are about to ripped apart in
> ways they never even imagines. `, )
>
> ...I'm going to use my "big" voice on this one. ^__^
>
I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
prosecutors, not the jurors. If prosecutors bring additional cases based
on the same legal concepts, then you'll see a chilling effect. If not,
things will go on as always. I don't think we've really reached a
"tipping point" on this issue yet.
But we'll see. You post anything you see that suggests the jurors we're
targets as a result of your decisions. The public and the news media
have latched on to this, so you know they will report on any issues that
arise from it. I'll bet there are none.
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
>voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
>prosecutors, not the jurors. If prosecutors bring additional cases based
>on the same legal concepts, then you'll see a chilling effect. If not,
>things will go on as always. I don't think we've really reached a
>"tipping point" on this issue yet.
>
>But we'll see. You post anything you see that suggests the jurors we're
>targets as a result of your decisions. The public and the news media
>have latched on to this, so you know they will report on any issues that
>arise from it. I'll bet there are none.
Oh no Fred, you don't understand...I'm taking this one on myself. I'm
going to exercise my rights to satirical comedy and parody, in the
form of image manipulation and the like...
http://www.fuck-neopets.com
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_1.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_2.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_3.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_4.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_5.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_6.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_7.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_8.jpg
I'm going to show them that what happened to Megan was about on par
with being pelted with marshmallows compared to the *REAL* level of
fun that's often played out online.
Simply put, Megan was a suicide waiting to happen, if it hadn't been
the character "Josh Evans" it would have been someone else...possibly
even someone real. I mean just look at what people do and say about
me online:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Onideus_Mad_Hatter
Compare *THAT* to the ~horrible~ things that were said to
Megan...*snicker*...do you see my point here? The only kind of person
who would actually kill themselves over such shit would be someone who
is *COMPLETELY* the fuck outta their gourde...and Megan certainly
was...and her whole fucking family knew it. Hell the girl had been
undergoing psychiatric treatment for fuck sake and she didn't start
"getting better" until they put her into a private school and said,
"Sorry, no more Internet for you." For the entire time she was
offline...she was fucking *NORMAL*...and then her idiot mother
thought, "Oh, well, I guess she's cured!" Dee, dee, dee! And she let
her daughter go back online...and then she killed herself over it!
Dee, dee, dee! This whole business about attacking the Drew's is just
some sick fucking perversion so Megan's mother can try and feel better
about herself and blame someone else, when really, it was *HER* that
essentially handed her daughter the noose.
Further, this whole business about MySpace's ToS being violated is
complete bullshit because "Josh Evans" is a *CHARACTER*, no different
from Bozo the clown or any other copyrighted character persona, which,
btw, is *NOT* covered in MySpace's ToS (a fact I just e-mailed to Lori
Drew's lawyer). Essentially, they never lied, because the character
was never meant to be a representation of themselves.
The bottom line is this...you cannot ever believe anything
online...ever. You never know if what you're seeing is real or not
real, there is no way you can ever be certain of anything you see,
even video and graphics are easily manipulated and edited in this day
in age. There is simply no excuse for blindly believing something
online and it is such an important lesson that most schools computer
programs often make it one of the very first things they teach
children...you do not believe ANYTHING you see online because ANYTHING
can and often is manipulated. This is a lesson that Megan's mother
should have taught her daughter before ever allowing her on the
Internet. The Internet is not your child's babysitter and you must
take responsibility not only for what your child does online, but how
they perceive the online medium itself.
The other great, but often overlooked truth is this...children do not
belong online...ever, not for any reason. Anyone who lets a child go
online, supervised or not is just asking for trouble. And there is no
real reason either, there are no shortage of offline encyclopedias,
games, learning software, etc for children to use that do not require
an Internet connection. And it doesn't matter if it's a "trusted"
site or not. I know many online performance artists who get quite a
big kick out of defacing children's sites with very minor edits, often
overlooked for months, that will teach your children fun phrases like
"dolcett fetish" and others that most often aren't even regulated or
picked up by "child safe" software like Net Nanny. They often make
these defacements for the soul purpose of teaching parents (the hard
way) that their children do not belong online.
Fred Doyle
> Oh no Fred, you don't understand...I'm taking this one on myself. I'm
> going to exercise my rights to satirical comedy and parody, in the
> form of image manipulation and the like...
That's it? That's a backlash "like nothing they can imagine." You're
going to manipulate a few images and put them on a web site that no one
they know will ever see? Do you think they will even be aware of them?
Will they even affect their lives in any way?
These aren't people that live and die on the internet. They are at best
only marginally aware of what happens on the internet. That's you "big
voice?"
But please, let us all know when this is more than talk, i.e. when
you've done something that has affected even one juror, let alone all of
them.
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
Poor, simple little Fred...you're not quite getting this, are you? It
really, really doesn't matter if *THEY* ever see it or not. The point
is, I'm going to take their identities and post *AS* them on all
*SORTS* of fun little sites, including pictures and such as well. That
way, anyone who ever runs a search on their name is going to wind up
thinking that they're a hermaphroditic furry scrotal inflationist or
some other horrible thing if they even take the Internet the least bit
serious (as they themselves did). It's a kind of...poetic justice as
it were. Lots of people Google the names of those they're friends
with, those that they're thinking about employing, those that they
don't like, even themselves...it's quite common. And the more unique
name they have, the easier it is to "paint" it up with my personal
brand of invective satire.
If you don't think it's effective though, Fred...why not post some
pictures of yourself for me? I mean if it's really as harmless as you
claim...well let's see *YOU* volunteer to go first! ^__^
Fred Doyle
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:10:45 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>
>
> Poor, simple little Fred...you're not quite getting this, are you? It
> really, really doesn't matter if *THEY* ever see it or not. The point
> is, I'm going to take their identities and post *AS* them on all
> *SORTS* of fun little sites, including pictures and such as well. That
> way, anyone who ever runs a search on their name is going to wind up
> thinking that they're a hermaphroditic furry scrotal inflationist or
> some other horrible thing if they even take the Internet the least bit
> serious (as they themselves did). It's a kind of...poetic justice as
> it were. Lots of people Google the names of those they're friends
> with, those that they're thinking about employing, those that they
> don't like, even themselves...it's quite common. And the more unique
> name they have, the easier it is to "paint" it up with my personal
> brand of invective satire.
>
> If you don't think it's effective though, Fred...why not post some
> pictures of yourself for me? I mean if it's really as harmless as you
> claim...well let's see *YOU* volunteer to go first! ^__^
>
You just don't get it. These people don't know or care about the
internet. People don't search them. Their lives are only marginally
touched by the internet. But as I said, let us know when you've actually
done something, please.
As for me, there's many pictures of me out there, in several places, and
clearly identified. I've never hidden who I was, where I live, where I
work and what I look like. You know that. Find them, I won't do your
work. Then have fun.
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
LOL, like I said fool, it's not about *THEM*, it's not about if they
ever even see it or not. See...funny thing about the Internet...it's
kinda...forever, in case that skipped you. As it says in my .sig,
those that record history are those that control history. Even after
they're long dead they'll be forever remembered in any way that *I*
decide they should be. Neat how that works, innt? I can completely
shame and stain your family's history with no more than a few dozen
clicks of the mouse and a few well placed paragraphs. If you're never
aware of it...you can't ever even defend yourself against it, now can
you? ^__^
>As for me, there's many pictures of me out there, in several places, and
>clearly identified. I've never hidden who I was, where I live, where I
>work and what I look like. You know that. Find them, I won't do your
>work. Then have fun.
Tsch, tsch, tsch...come now, Freddy Boi, do you really think anyone is
buying your bullshit here? Either you post yer pics, here and now, or
yer a shameful cowardly little snit who is just running at the mouth.
It's easy enough to ~claim~ that you've ~supposedly~ posted pictures
~somewhere~ and that I just have to go on some ~magical~ Internet
scavanger hunt to find them...which is all rather...convienent, for
your bullshit, innt Freddy Boi? It's okay, you're afraid me...I like
that. `, )
Fred Doyle
>
> LOL, like I said fool, it's not about *THEM*, it's not about if they
> ever even see it or not. See...funny thing about the Internet...it's
> kinda...forever, in case that skipped you. As it says in my .sig,
> those that record history are those that control history. Even after
> they're long dead they'll be forever remembered in any way that *I*
> decide they should be. Neat how that works, innt? I can completely
> shame and stain your family's history with no more than a few dozen
> clicks of the mouse and a few well placed paragraphs. If you're never
> aware of it...you can't ever even defend yourself against it, now can
> you? ^__^
>
Gee, I thought it was about "their lives are about to ripped apart in
ways they never even imagines."
But you will let us know when you've actually done something, right?
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>> LOL, like I said fool, it's not about *THEM*, it's not about if they
>> ever even see it or not. See...funny thing about the Internet...it's
>> kinda...forever, in case that skipped you. As it says in my .sig,
>> those that record history are those that control history. Even after
>> they're long dead they'll be forever remembered in any way that *I*
>> decide they should be. Neat how that works, innt? I can completely
>> shame and stain your family's history with no more than a few dozen
>> clicks of the mouse and a few well placed paragraphs. If you're never
>> aware of it...you can't ever even defend yourself against it, now can
>> you? ^__^
>Gee, I thought it was about "their lives are about to ripped apart in
>ways they never even imagines."
...exactly (sans the spelling mistake). What the fuck am I speaking a
funny language to you or something? Yeesh, are you posting drunk?
Maybe when you stop being an online alcoholic you can sort this shit
out, huh?
>But you will let us know when you've actually done something, right?
*Hatter notes the part of about Fred's pictures has been conveniently
snipped out.*
What's the matter, Sparky? Don't wanna play? He, he, he...you've
already invested *SO* much time and effort into posting all this inane
dribble...what's a few extra clicks of the mouse to "prove me wrong"?
Fact is...if you had pictures...you would have posted by now...just
for the satisfaction of shutting me up...but you're not gonna do that,
are ya, Freddy Boi? Too much of a pussy, huh? It's okay, lots of
people are pussies around me...like Washington Mutual for example...
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_1.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_2.png
LOL
I do so love being an evil, horrible fucking bastard...it just suits
me so well. `, )
Fred Doyle
§ñühwØ£f
with the following claims :
>
> I do so love being an evil, horrible fucking bastard...it just suits
> me so well. `, )
>
Translation: I've accepted my self-parody status.
Well good for you :)
--
"Those who can make you believe absurdities,
can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
http://www.alternet.org
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> Gee, I thought it was about "their lives are about to ripped apart in
> ways they never even imagines."
>
> But you will let us know when you've actually done something, right?
>
> Fred
Fred, leave the poor little boy alone. It's a proven fact that he's a
delusional fraud.
He does have a point though. With all the posts out that he's a diaper
wearing troll he's employment options are limited to stocking shelves
at Wally's World.
Drew
Drew
Fred Doyle
>
> Fred, leave the poor little boy alone. It's a proven fact that he's a
> delusional fraud.
>
I'm just waiting to see if he'll really DO anything. Anything. Any bets?
I really hopes he uses his "big boy" voice like he said. That should be
funny.
> He does have a point though. With all the posts out that he's a diaper
> wearing troll he's employment options are limited to stocking shelves
> at Wally's World.
>
C'mon, its not just all those posts on the web and on usenet that
prevent him from getting hired as anything other than a stock boy.
That's just a convenient excuse for him. There are a host of other
reasons; skills, personality, previous work history to name just a few.
Fred
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>But you will let us know when you've actually done something, right?
...don't I always?
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_1.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_2.png
*shrugs*
Or do you just selectively block out all those inconvenient little
facts to support your delusional little fantasies?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:08:18 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter aided th' terraists
>with the following claims :
>
>>
>> I do so love being an evil, horrible fucking bastard...it just suits
>> me so well. `, )
>>
>Tra<COCKSLAP>
Anyone wanna buy a slightly used Hatter Addict? I'll sell 'em to
ya...*REAL* cheap...he's a baby fur though, so uh, mind the
diapers...and the claws.
Onideus Mad Hatter
LOL, boy you certainly aren't all butthurt and baaawing, now are you
Drewster? Why don't you just tell us all how you're ~really~ feeling
about me...you pathetic fucking wannabe. Hell even with my caustic
Internet persona I *STILL* manage to do more freelance design work in
a week than you've managed to do in your whole life...although that's
not too big of a surprise...word has it that you're something of an
alcoholic, Drewster. Apparently you've been "drowning your sorrows"
so to speak. Wanna talk about it?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm š x š
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>whoisthat...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Fred, leave the poor little boy alone. It's a proven fact that he's a
>> delusional fraud.
>>
>
>I'm just waiting to see if he'll really DO anything. Anything. Any bets?
When do I not?
LOL, poor SASS, they were fun while they lasted...not too bright
though, kinda like you Freddy Boi.
>I really hopes he uses his "big boy" voice like he said. That should be
>funny.
Actually, you know what might be even funnier...if I use it on you
instead, FreddyBoi.
Let's look at yer shit for a minute:
http://www.leafpublishing.com/
*snicker*
Wow...just, WOW! It's no wonder you spend so much time obsessing over
me and my work...must really burn you up how a "shelf stocker" is so
much moar capable than you are in the realm of web coding, design and
the like. Face it, Freddy...yer just some bumbling fuckin idiot,
going around playing wannabe web developer/graphic designer. You gots
no skillz, boi. LOL Seriously, yer crap ~almost~ make's Drew's shit
look palatable by comparison...almost.
>C'mon, its not just all those posts on the web and on usenet that
>prevent him from getting hired as anything other than a stock boy.
>That's just a convenient excuse for him. There are a host of other
>reasons; skills, personality, previous work history to name just a few.
*Hatter goes off to send some e-mails to Fred's clients.*
PS - my clients (the ones shown on Backwater) are all well aware of
what a "Hatter Addict" is, so good luck with yer butthurtz there,
Freddy Boi. ^__^
Fred Doyle
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:24:52 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> whoisthat...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Fred, leave the poor little boy alone. It's a proven fact that he's a
>>> delusional fraud.
>>>
>> I'm just waiting to see if he'll really DO anything. Anything. Any bets?
>
> When do I not?
Um, with the jurors on this case, so far. Think about it though. Is it
what you really want to do, or did you thump your chest too quickly.
>
> http://sass.buttes.org/
>
> LOL, poor SASS, they were fun while they lasted...not too bright
> though, kinda like you Freddy Boi.
>
>> I really hopes he uses his "big boy" voice like he said. That should be
>> funny.
>
> Actually, you know what might be even funnier...if I use it on you
> instead, FreddyBoi.
>
> Let's look at yer shit for a minute:
> http://www.leafpublishing.com/
>
> *snicker*
>
> Wow...just, WOW! It's no wonder you spend so much time obsessing over
> me and my work...must really burn you up how a "shelf stocker" is so
> much moar capable than you are in the realm of web coding, design and
> the like. Face it, Freddy...yer just some bumbling fuckin idiot,
> going around playing wannabe web developer/graphic designer. You gots
> no skillz, boi. LOL Seriously, yer crap ~almost~ make's Drew's shit
> look palatable by comparison...almost.
My, you think that makes you sound like a big boy? You think what big
boys do is rant and rave and insult? You spend too much time on usenet.
>
>> C'mon, its not just all those posts on the web and on usenet that
>> prevent him from getting hired as anything other than a stock boy.
>> That's just a convenient excuse for him. There are a host of other
>> reasons; skills, personality, previous work history to name just a few.
>
> *Hatter goes off to send some e-mails to Fred's clients.*
I'll let you know what they say in response.
>
> PS - my clients (the ones shown on Backwater) are all well aware of
> what a "Hatter Addict" is, so good luck with yer butthurtz there,
> Freddy Boi. ^__^
I've got no interest in writing your clients. You take this whole
interweb thing way too seriously, Matt. Take a break from it. Don't feel
the need to "get even" with everyone. Its not real life, remember. Go
get some sunshine, Sunshine.
Fred
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
> I've got no interest in writing your clients. You take this whole
> interweb thing way too seriously, Matt. Take a break from it. Don't feel
> the need to "get even" with everyone. Its not real life, remember. Go
> get some sunshine, Sunshine.
>
> Fred
Who's to write, anyway. Most of that work was either done for Walla
Walla Community College while in attendance or a dog breeder.
Drew
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
productions.net> wrote:
> LOL, boy you certainly aren't all butthurt and baaawing, now are you
> Drewster? Why don't you just tell us all how you're ~really~ feeling
> about me...you pathetic fucking wannabe. Hell even with my caustic
> Internet persona I *STILL* manage to do more freelance design work in
> a week than you've managed to do in your whole life...although that's
> not too big of a surprise...word has it that you're something of an
> alcoholic, Drewster. Apparently you've been "drowning your sorrows"
> so to speak. Wanna talk about it?
More delusions.
*shakes head*
Drew
Onideus Mad Hatter
LOL, oh look whose picking up my mannerisms now, that's cute, that is.
*nods*
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>>> I'm just waiting to see if he'll really DO anything. Anything. Any bets?
>> When do I not?
>Um, with the jurors on this case, so far.
I don't have all their names yet. Drew's lawyer said he couldn't give
me the names outright due to privacy issues and not wanting to be
directly involved, but he did point me in the right direction as far
as obtaining them via the voir dire proceeding records, which may or
may not be easily obtained depending on the circumstances.
He also expressed interest in the possibility of having me as a
witness in their appeal, should judge Wu uphold the jurors decision.
So for the time being I'm not going to do anything outright, there's
not really any need. The 9th will no doubt overturn judge Wu's
ruling, if he does decide to stick with it. Even if that is the
outcome though, I'll still have some fun with the jurors and judge Wu.
Nothing criminal mind you, just some good old fashion satirical
comedy...Mad Hatter style...
>Think about it though. Is it
>what you really want to do, or did you thump your chest too quickly.
I never act on emotion without the benefit of intellect, actually.
>> Actually, you know what might be even funnier...if I use it on you
>> instead, FreddyBoi.
>>
>> Let's look at yer shit for a minute:
>> http://www.leafpublishing.com/
>>
>> *snicker*
>>
>> Wow...just, WOW! It's no wonder you spend so much time obsessing over
>> me and my work...must really burn you up how a "shelf stocker" is so
>> much moar capable than you are in the realm of web coding, design and
>> the like. Face it, Freddy...yer just some bumbling fuckin idiot,
>> going around playing wannabe web developer/graphic designer. You gots
>> no skillz, boi. LOL Seriously, yer crap ~almost~ make's Drew's shit
>> look palatable by comparison...almost.
>My, you think that makes you sound like a big boy? You think what big
>boys do is rant and rave and insult? You spend too much time on usenet.
What you call insults I call invective word art. If you really do
think it's insulting, well, perhaps *YOUR* the one who has been
spending too much time on Usenet...or maybe I'm just hittin ya little
too close to home?
>>> C'mon, its not just all those posts on the web and on usenet that
>>> prevent him from getting hired as anything other than a stock boy.
>>> That's just a convenient excuse for him. There are a host of other
>>> reasons; skills, personality, previous work history to name just a few.
>> *Hatter goes off to send some e-mails to Fred's clients.*
>I'll let you know what they say in response.
...who said I was ever going to mention your name? I'm just going to
give them a free critique of their shit and then let them know what a
real web developer could offer them (and probably at half the price).
That btw is actually how I get most of my contract work, I find a site
that has potential, that interests me, then I make a few free mockups
of what their site ~could~ look like if they hire me on and most often
they're always eager for the upgrade.
>> PS - my clients (the ones shown on Backwater) are all well aware of
>> what a "Hatter Addict" is, so good luck with yer butthurtz there,
>> Freddy Boi. ^__^
>I've got no interest in writing your clients. You take this whole
>interweb thing way too seriously, Matt. Take a break from it. Don't feel
>the need to "get even" with everyone. Its not real life, remember. Go
>get some sunshine, Sunshine.
On the contrary, I've been giving it quite a lot of thought and I
think an "attack everyone" stance may be just what I need right now.
I mean I've spent literarily years and years trying to be the "uber
nice guy" in real world job interviews and so forth and, really, what
has it gotten me? A lot of contract work? Most of which I'm not even
allowed to openly discuss. Hell with the way things are right now I
can't even take credit for most of the work I've done...so I
figure...why keep trying to play the nice guy? Especially when going
on the offensive seems to produce fast results in my favor:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_1.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Personal_-_WAMU_Satire_2.png
The way I figure it, my skillz in web coding and graphic design
represent a significant power, which, up until that stint with
Neopets, I've rarely used outside of idle fun. So I figure...I have
that power...why shouldn't I start using it for my benefit? Why
should I be fucked over while low grade pissants liak you and Drew get
all the cushy high paying jobs with sub-par skills? Working at
Wal*Mart is nice and all, I really like the exercise and being able to
take on contract jobs that I like while not having to take on ones
that I don't...but as I said, the majority of those jobs I can't even
take credit for, so what the fuck good is it? More and more I find my
attitude turning to the concept of "fuck everyone who tries to fuck me
over first".
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
Onideus Mad Hatter
The only clients I list on Backwater are the ones who are well aware
of what a "Hatter Addict" is. Most of the work I've done hasn't ever
been publicly shown, in order to protect my clients from nut jobs liak
yourself. There's a huge fucking difference between contacting a
business, letting them know what's wrong with their site, what you can
do for them to fix it and offering free mockups, as opposed to
e-mailing a business and frothing on liak a raving lunakook about how
their designer/web guys are <insert libelous statements here>.
Hatter Addicts liak yourself have a ~real~ hard time finding that line
between nut job and professionalism.
Fred Doyle
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:30:17 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I never act on emotion without the benefit of intellect, actually.
Well, that's an opinion.
>
> What you call insults I call invective word art. If you really do
> think it's insulting, well, perhaps *YOUR* the one who has been
> spending too much time on Usenet...or maybe I'm just hittin ya little
> too close to home?
You are spending too much time on usenet if you can't recognize that.
>
>>>> C'mon, its not just all those posts on the web and on usenet that
>>>> prevent him from getting hired as anything other than a stock boy.
>>>> That's just a convenient excuse for him. There are a host of other
>>>> reasons; skills, personality, previous work history to name just a few.
>
>>> *Hatter goes off to send some e-mails to Fred's clients.*
>
>> I'll let you know what they say in response.
>
> ...who said I was ever going to mention your name? I'm just going to
> give them a free critique of their shit and then let them know what a
> real web developer could offer them (and probably at half the price).
Don't worry, you don't have to mention my name. The people I do work for
have a long enough relationship with me and enough respect for me that
if they got a letter from you critiquing their web site, they would show
it to me. Respect like that from a client is pretty standard.
I'll let you know what they say if you actually write anyone. I promise.
>
> That btw is actually how I get most of my contract work, I find a site
> that has potential, that interests me, then I make a few free mockups
> of what their site ~could~ look like if they hire me on and most often
> they're always eager for the upgrade.
You do that. I think it would be a great idea for you to do some spec
work for them and even post links to it here. I'll be waiting to see it.
I'll let you know what they think of it, too.
Wow, did anyone read all that? If so, let me know. I'm more interested
seeing if anyone would wade through it than I am in what it says.
Fred
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
productions.net> wrote:
Good luck with that.
Drew
§ñühw¤£f
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:56:48 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter
> <use...@backwater-productions.net>wrote:
>
>> I'll still have some fun with the jurors and judge Wu.
>> Nothing criminal mind you, just some good old fashion satirical
>> comedy...Mad Hatter style..
>
> screaming or the one where you are tazed, maced, then hogtied and
> carried away?
>
>
The one where he puts together some mangled bit of htmhell that says
"cockslap", "webtard" etc over and over and has nothing relevant to say.
IOW, more of the same :)
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Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:56:48 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter
><use...@backwater-productions.net>wrote:
>
>>I'll still have some fun with the jurors and judge Wu.
>>Nothing criminal mind you, just some good old fashion satirical
>>comedy...Mad Hatter style..
>
>Is that the one where you're hauled away in handcuffs kicking and
>screaming or the one where you are tazed, maced, then hogtied and
>carried away?
Oooo, to get arrested for exercising my first amendment
rights...*shudder*...oh I'd liak that, I'd liak that a lot. I could
then join the ranks of good 'ol Larry Flint! ^__^
Onideus Mad Hatter
whoisthat...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Your mom and I are going to have sex tonight, Drew.
>Good luck with that.
Thanks man, I don't think I'll need any though.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
Kadaitcha Man
trilled:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:52:45 -0500, Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:56:48 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter
>> <use...@backwater-productions.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I'll still have some fun with the jurors and judge Wu.
>>> Nothing criminal mind you, just some good old fashion satirical
>>> comedy...Mad Hatter style..
>>
>> Is that the one where you're hauled away in handcuffs kicking and
>> screaming or the one where you are tazed, maced, then hogtied and
>> carried away?
>
> Oooo, to get arrested<BITCHSLAP>
"satirical comedy", you stupid fuck.
And don't bother trying a <COCK SLAP>, you obese cuntard, you never can get
it out from under your flab.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
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Join me for dinner. I'm cooking hellish possum phlegm with festering
pimple aside glitched aborted feotus accentuated with bestial blain
inside corrupted weevil genitalia with bladder sauce, dished up in a
circulating bucket brimming with bloody turnip, squirming scraps of
cartilage and bone, lung broth, a side of foetal chimpanzee kidney and a
chalice of emulsified sweat and grease from the chef's forehead.
Onideus Mad Hatter
<inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>"sa<COCK SLAP>
Hey look, it's Kabitchy, bitching about...well, actually I didn't
bother to read it before I deleted it, but regardless, I'm sure it
wasn't anything of relevant interest.
Let me know if anyone figures out a way to fix stupid and then maybe
I'll have a reason to actually read one of his posts.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
Kadaitcha Man
pealed:
> You're not supposed to make me scream like a girl three times in one
> day!
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
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September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
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Join me for dinner. I'm cooking feculent human armpit hairs and bed bug
genitalia vinaigrette with terrifying chicken entrails and head louse
furuncle garnish, served in a randomly twitching deep dish containing
dried medley of walnut and pork with squares of nut in putrescent
stinking slime, a side of Japanese macaque pancreas and a can of penile
secretions.
Onideus Mad Hatter
<inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>O<COCK SLAP>
888
*nods*
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
Kadaitcha Man
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:01:21 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> O<FLAB SLAP>
>
> My anus is itchy!! Perhaps I have worms???
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]
Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
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Join me for dinner. I'm cooking obscene snake vein next to spoiled used
tampons and banana vinegar, served in a cooling pannikin chock full of
raw olive, watery squares of lobster and specks of calamari, bone marrow
gravy, a side of meerkat stomach carcinoma and a drink of eye gunk.
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
> >Your mom and I are going to have sex tonight, Drew.
And all this time I thought I was conversing with at least a high
school graduate. So much for assumptions.
Drew
Fred Doyle
>
> And all this time I thought I was conversing with at least a high
> school graduate. So much for assumptions.
>
>
> Drew
What in Matt's past posting history gave you that impression?
Fred
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
Yea. My bad. Should I give up hope of seeing pictures of him fucking
my non-existent sister?
Drew
Go Panthers!
Monday will be a defining moment for this years team. If you watch the
game, my seats are 8 rows behind the upper deck camera on the right
side of the field.
Onideus Mad Hatter
Fred Doyle
So I take it, after this weekend, you're no longer quite as ready to
concede our bet? I told you there was a long way to go in the season.
Fred
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
That was a ploy to lull you into complacency.
I'm glad I'm writing this 'cause I can hardly speak I yelled so loud.
What a game! Makes me forget Appalachian lost.
Drew
Hiccum Blurpaedius
productions.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:08:08 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
> >voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
I blame the health care system for giving her drugs that scerewed her
up and letting sick fucks like you on the internet. You need to be
locked up in a cage.
Don't you ever shut the fuck up.
Exterminate the christian government
Onideus Mad Hatter
<hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 29, 1:01 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:08:08 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
>> >voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
>
>I bl<COCK SLAP>
I'll shut up when you learn to shut YOURSELF the fuck up. Blinders
really aren't that difficult to figure out, Retard. Honestly, does
someone need to break on out some Crayolas and color it out for your
stupid ass?
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
productions.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:06:34 -0800 (PST), Hiccum Blurpaedius
>
> <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 29, 1:01 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:08:08 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
> >> >voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
>
> >I bl<COCK SLAP>
>
> I'll shut up when you learn to shut YOURSELF the fuck up. Blinders
> really aren't that difficult to figure out, Retard. Honestly, does
> someone need to break on out some Crayolas and color it out for your
> stupid ass?
And when do we get to see the results of "their lives are about to
ripped apart in
ways they never even imagines."
Don't forget your "big" voice as opposed to your squeaky voice we're
so familiar with.
Drew
Onideus Mad Hatter
whoisthat...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Dec 10, 10:22 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:06:34 -0800 (PST), Hiccum Blurpaedius
>>
>> <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 29, 1:01 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:08:08 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >I suspect nothing will ever happen to the jurors, and that your big
>> >> >voice won't matter to those that are really behind this; the federal
>>
>> >I bl<COCK SLAP>
>>
>> I'll shut up when you learn to shut YOURSELF the fuck up. Blinders
>> really aren't that difficult to figure out, Retard. Honestly, does
>> someone need to break on out some Crayolas and color it out for your
>> stupid ass?
>
>And whe<COCK SLAP>
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/You_Lose_With_WAMU.jpg
Where are *YOUR* pictures again, Drew? Oh, oh that's right, you're
too much of a PUSSY to poast them, because my "big voice" scares the
holy fucking shit out of you. ^__^
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
productions.net> wrote:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/You_Lose_With_WAMU.jpg
That reminds me Sophomore, when in hell are you ever going to learn to
live within your means or at least learn to balance a simple
checkbook?
Just trying to help.
Drew
Onideus Mad Hatter
Probably when I learn to stop trusting companies and their bullshit
lies about how they can setup auto-transfers from one account to
another account. Not that you would know anything about it, you don't
even *A* bank account, let alone several that would necessitate
transfers. Your mommy and daddy handle all that for you, huh kiddo?
PS - how is the basement these days? Nice and cozy?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
Fred Doyle
Ok, so I guess it comes down to this week, eh? BTW if it ends in a tie,
does this head to head game count as the tie breaker?
Fred Doyle
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
Yes, it seems our bet does boil down to Sunday. This game will be our
tie breaker as per NFL rules. I like our chances even though I'd like
'em better if you weren't coming off of a 2 game losing streak.
Let's tweak our bet. Vegas has NYG giving 3. Looser puts a $5 bill in
a Salvation Army kettle and registers it at: http://www.wheresgeorge.com/
appropriately marked.
Bet?
Drew
Go Panthers!
Fred Doyle
Its a bet. No one really loses on that one.
Fred Doyle
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
No loosers. I came up with this idea earlier in the season. A client
in Reno is a big Oakland fan and I didn't want to take his money. That
would have been awkward. It's fun to track the money too. Have the
same bet with another NYG fan/client.
D
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
What a GREAT game. Hats off to NYG. I'll start building my care
package tomorrow.
Congratulations!
Drew
Fred Doyle
Damn. THAT was a football game. Those two teams will meet again this
year, most likely. At least it will be in NY, and probably just as
close. Great game by both teams.
Fred Doyle
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
That game and the 2003 Super Bowl were the best games we've ever lost.
A quote in the paper read "If you didn't care who one, you just
witnessed the best game of the season."
And damn. I wanted to try some of that sausage and jerky. Maybe next
year. In the meantime I'll go gathering your Chow-Chow, boiled
peanuts, pig skins, tea infused vodka, etc. You want some more country
ham or is that plentiful up your way?
Drew
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
Fred Doyle
I'll keep my eye on it and see where it ends up.
Hey want to exchange opponents for the weekend. I'd much prefer the
Giants play Arizona. You guys can have Philadelphia.
I know it would be considered getting ahead of myself, but if my boys in
blue end up playing your boys in blue for the NFC title, is there
anything on the line?
Fred Doyle
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
>
> I'll keep my eye on it and see where it ends up.
>
> Hey want to exchange opponents for the weekend. I'd much prefer the
> Giants play Arizona. You guys can have Philadelphia.
No thank you. Philadelphia scares me. I'll take a 10 favorite all day
long.
>
> I know it would be considered getting ahead of myself, but if my boys in
> blue end up playing your boys in blue for the NFC title, is there
> anything on the line?
We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
:)
Drew
Fred Doyle
Well that's a "bridge too far" for both of us this year.
Fred
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
Damn ugly down here. I suppose doing shooters with Jake Friday night
wasn't such a good idea.
Now it's time for me to start collecting a care box to send your way.
I'd like to mix it up from last year, but if there's anything you
absolutely loved let me know and I'll include it. Other wise you're
getting sweet tea infused vodka, chow chow, boiled peanuts, liver mush
and maybe something else I can find.
Fred Doyle
It all sounds good to me. Last year's was especially good, so you've set
some high standards for yourself. The collard greens and the slaw were
my favorites.
Fred Doyle
whoisthat...@hotmail.com
> It all sounds good to me. Last year's was especially good, so you've set
> some high standards for yourself. The collard greens and the slaw were
> my favorites.
>
> Fred Doyle
Don't see mention of the grits. LOL! I made up six bunches of collards
for New Years and they all got gone. Problem was I had planned on
taking some to my son's school. They're a hit among the staff. Not bad
for a white boy. And slaw for the BBQ probably won't be made anytime
soon. We'll see. I wasn't the promptest last year so who knows when
what may come your way.
Drew
Fred Doyle
> On Jan 12, 1:08 pm, Fred Doyle <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> It all sounds good to me. Last year's was especially good, so you've set
>> some high standards for yourself. The collard greens and the slaw were
>> my favorites.
>>
>> Fred Doyle
>
> Don't see mention of the grits. LOL!
>
>
Those were to eat? I was using them for removing the finish on an old
bookcase. ;)
Fred Doyle
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> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:58:39 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdo...@nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From today's NY times
>>
>>"The verdict Wednesday in the MySpace cyberbullying case raised a
>>variety of questions about the terms that users agree to when they log
>>on to Web sites.
>>
>>"The defendant in the case, a Missouri woman, was convicted by a federal
>>jury in Los Angeles on three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for
>>having misrepresented herself on the popular social network MySpace."
>>
>>..."MySpace's terms of service require users to submit "truthful and
>>accurate" registration information. Ms. Drew's creation of a phony
>>profile amounted to "unauthorized access" to the site, prosecutors said,
>>a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986."
>>
>>Hmmm...is that a chill I feel in the air?
>
> Unfortunetly for those jurors...the backlash is going to be like
> nothing they can imagine...their lives are about to ripped apart in
> ways they never even imagines. `, )
>
> ...I'm going to use my "big" voice on this one. ^__^
>
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹