Survey data on web designers
Fred Doyle
That's a substantial sample populatin so thereis a good representation of
web professionals. They surveyed internationally (over half were outside the
US). I think the results are very interesting and can be seen here:
http://www.alistapart.com/d/2007surveyresults/2007surveyresults.pdf
The things that caught my eye include:
Regarding education, about a third of the people involved in creating web
sites have an AA degree or less. That pretty much dispels the myth that a
lack of degree will keep you from getting a job.
Over half of those responding were not educated in the field, but were
educated in some other field of study and migrated to this field by choice.
About a quarter of those responding worked in a for profit enterprise, a
quarter were self-employed freelancers and a quarter were working for a
design agency.
Most of us put in over 40 hours per week.
Almost a third have been in their current job 1 year or less.
By far, most of us make under $70,000 per year.
Fred
Drew
> Almost a third have been in their current job 1 year or less.
That should give pause to any newcomer/beginner. This survey surely
shows that though the web development business is good to make a living,
you're not going to see early retirement either.
Drew
inez
I'm not built to be a web developer, but I might note that $40K-$70K
sounds damn good to many of us. Add making that much doing something you
actually like to do...what more do you need really?
I'd be ecstatic to make $30K freelancing. Beyond my fantasies, and I'm
over-the-hill in the USA.
--
inez
Fred Doyle
> Add making that much doing something you
> actually like to do...what more do you need really?
>
Amen. That really says it all. Do you make enough to be able to make
ends meet, in a lifestyle you are comfortable with, doing something you
like to do? What more can you ask for? To be able to do so is really a
blessing from whatever God works for you.
--
Fred Doyle
CapCity
"Drew" <whoisthat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Maybe not *voluntary* early retirement ...
>
> Drew
>
NotMe
"Fred Doyle" <fdo...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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I expect Inez is like most of us ... every time a meeing gets close ...
someone moves the ends.
I manage to set aside enough for a new 17" Mac but had not bargined on most
of the 'good old' software not working.
Drew
Working for myself for over 20 years and my children's education
colliding with any retirement plans leaves me working well past 65.
Drew
inez
;Ź) Well, the young and driven probably laugh at my low aspirations.
Me, I haven't had a moment of a sense of security sense I was a child.
Granted, I was considered poor in my childhood, but I never knew it.
Many aren't that fortunate. Those who haven't scratched and clawed their
way out of a hole to just start at zero have no clue. I consider myself
fortunate, but I've thus far failed at do anything with it.
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inez
inez
> "Fred Doyle" <fdo...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:471edab0$0$4976$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
> | inez wrote:
> |
> | > Add making that much doing something you
> | > actually like to do...what more do you need really?
> | >
> |
> | Amen. That really says it all. Do you make enough to be able to make
> | ends meet, in a lifestyle you are comfortable with, doing something you
> | like to do? What more can you ask for? To be able to do so is really a
> | blessing from whatever God works for you.
>
> I expect Inez is like most of us ... every time a meeing gets close ...
> someone moves the ends.
LOL! Someone simply erased my ends. But I don't even think of retirement
as a real thing. I seek some bit of safety and security and a way to
maintain it. The only reason I continue to put one foot in front of the
other (when I'm not frozen), apart from anything idealistic, is fear,
plain and simple.
> I manage to set aside enough for a new 17" Mac but had not bargined on most
> of the 'good old' software not working.
ARGH! Yeah, I've kept that thought in the fore. I know I can't get
equipment and app upgrades at the same time, so I have to be able to at
least run in Classic. PITA, interim equipment. It feels like such a
waste of money buying stuff that's already outdated. But I'm amazed the
stuff I have continues to function and I know I'm really pushing my luck.
--
inez
Fred Doyle
"inez" <nez...@or.fact> wrote
>
> Me, I haven't had a moment of a sense of security sense I was a child.
> Granted, I was considered poor in my childhood, but I never knew it. Many
> aren't that fortunate. Those who haven't scratched and clawed their way
> out of a hole to just start at zero have no clue. I consider myself
> fortunate, but I've thus far failed at do anything with it.
>
> --
> inez
We were certainly considered "poor" when I was very young, too, but I never
knew it. My father worked part time stocking grocery store shelves while
going to college full-time on the GI Bill (free tuition for all vets). He
turned everything over to my mother, who he claims was a financial genius,
finding ways to make a part-time salary provide for a family of four.
We learned to eat that fine Irish staple of potatos, with whatever happened
to be in the house. But I never had a clue that we were "poor." My parents
certainly clawed themselves out of a hole just to start at zero, and they
earned every thing they got along the way, and I don't think they were that
unusual for their generation. By the time I was old enough to be aware of
people's financial status, we were solidly middle class, so I never had to
start from nothing. I was never given much, but at least I didn't start out
in the hole, as you say. I certainly admire everything my folks were able to
do, and the selflessness with which they did it.
Fred
inez
Yup. My dad was a janitor, but we lived pretty darn well by my
estimation. 'Course, he didn't care much for owning stuff. My mom was a
master not only in the kitchen, but in all forms of needle work. Till
she died when I was eight, most of my clothes were very well hand made,
as well as dolls and bedding. Oh!...home made Devil's Food cake for my
birthday. Haven't tasted anything like it sense.
Yes, they were amazing:) As though life were a labor of love; work, a
simple duty. But I think too that back then employers valued reliable,
loyal employees more than today, in the blue collar world anyway.
--
inez