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stupid_idiot

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Dec 8, 2002, 12:00:22 PM12/8/02
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Other users might already be familiar with this...but, a recent web client
wanted me to post on their website that they had russian, korean and spanish
translation capabilities. They kept saying they would provide the
content...but, you know how that works....So, I recently found this free web
URL that will make my day.

http://babelfish.altavista.com

S_I


Carol Ott

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Dec 8, 2002, 12:10:55 PM12/8/02
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Ugh -- *don't* use Babelfish....the translations that come out of that site
are the most god-awful mishmash....it's absolute rubbish. They need to hire
proper translators to do the job -- and not use a half-baked website that
was never meant to be used as a professional translation tool.

An example:

I typed in "Je t'aime, mon cher." (which means "I love you, my dear." in
French.) This is what Babelfish gave me as the English translation: "I
love you, my expensive." Now granted, the word "cher" does also mean
"expensive" in French....but you see what I mean....

Carol
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Rastin Mehr

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Dec 8, 2002, 12:26:36 PM12/8/02
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This is so Cool! for the first time in my life I could brows and read
http://www.photo.fr

Very sad huh! Yes I do need to learn French sometime soon. Tired of this
Programming language crap! Time to learn some real Natural Language ...

Rastin


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steggy

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Dec 8, 2002, 1:48:09 PM12/8/02
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Thos translations are based on words. The meaning of a
sentence gets lost. And you wouldn't know because you don't
speak the language:))

But it is a help. First step to real on-line translation services?
--
steg

stupid_idiot

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Dec 8, 2002, 2:04:56 PM12/8/02
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Wow...thanks Carol.....I would not know the difference.....You got any
suggestions of where to go for basic phrase translation?

Ideally, I just need three phrase, as a vector .eps with the text 'outlined'
that says:

In Korean, Russian and Spanish

"We offer translation in <respective language>.

Thanks!


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Carol Ott

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Dec 8, 2002, 4:04:34 PM12/8/02
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Go to a local university and ask the language students. Give them each ten
bucks for the two minutes of their time.

Carol
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karen lyster

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Dec 8, 2002, 4:56:21 PM12/8/02
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Oh no LOL. I've been using that Babelfish for ages to write back to my
overseas clients LOL. I've probably told them a right royal load of yak
manure ;)... things like "Please see my portfolio for examples of my
work"... could have come back at them like "please see my shipping dock of
employment" LOL.

Karen
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Carol Ott

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Dec 8, 2002, 5:15:47 PM12/8/02
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I sent an e-mail to a French friend -- just as a test. I started in English
and let Babelfish do the translation. Then I copied and pasted the text
into the e-mail "as is" with no modifications from me. My French friend
couldn't understand a word of what Babelfish had translated into French. He
said it was just a mishmash of words that didn't make any sense. He could
pick out the highlights because he knows me...but had we been strangers, he
would have deleted it and never responded.

Carol
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Hunter Elliott

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Dec 9, 2002, 10:23:27 AM12/9/02
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> Wow...thanks Carol.....I would not know the difference.....You got any
> suggestions of where to go for basic phrase translation?

Carol's got a good idea - the local university... or some citys have various
cultural groups that might be able to help. Those online translation things
take the words very literally and have no way to discern subtle contextual
differences.


LauraK

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Dec 9, 2002, 10:51:39 AM12/9/02
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Look for a consular or business office for the country in your city and check
the country's website for business assistance offices.
The Embassy usually provides that service at no or small fee.

lau...@madmousergraphics.com
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Edward Wedig

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Dec 9, 2002, 11:38:24 AM12/9/02
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In article <uv6uu7c...@corp.supernews.com>, spamm...@hotmail.com
says...

Babelfish is nice for individual words and phrases, but dont use it for
anything substantial. To see what I mean, try translating a paragraph of
text from english to anything else, and then back to english. Babelfish
will usually screw it up, almost to the point of unreadability.

Anyone remember why it's called babelfish? (I know)

-Ed

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Pip

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Dec 9, 2002, 12:36:02 PM12/9/02
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it's from Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy if I remember correctly. Been a
while since I read that...

Chuck

Edward Wedig

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Dec 9, 2002, 2:06:44 PM12/9/02
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Bingo! I owe you a beer in the Badger Lounge. :)

-Ed

In article <BA1A3EB9.284A7%pip...@nospamoptonline.net>,
pip...@nospamoptonline.net says...


> it's from Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy if I remember correctly. Been a
> while since I read that...

Pip

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Dec 9, 2002, 2:19:24 PM12/9/02
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After the way today is going I'll need something stronger... Bad/hard day at
work....

Chuck

> From: Edward Wedig <doc_b...@yahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.design.graphics

Stan Wojda

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Dec 9, 2002, 2:52:56 PM12/9/02
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For a REALLY bad day try this. Last week I had a brilliant idea of doing a
direct mail piece featuring a baby. All day today the phone has been ringing
off the hook with mothers of "cute" babies who would "just be perfect for
the photoshoot" even the people in the office have been bringing me pictures
of their children/grandchildren/nephews/nieces etc. Somehow the word has
spread all on it's own. Thinking seriously of changing my name and phone
number. Please do NOT e-mail me any photos of your kids.

Pip wrote

> After the way today is going I'll need something stronger... Bad/hard day at
> work....
>
> Chuck

>>

LauraK

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Dec 9, 2002, 3:31:10 PM12/9/02
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>All day today the phone has been ringing
>off the hook with mothers of "cute" babies who would "just be perfect for
>the photoshoot" even the people in the office have been bringing me pictures
>of their children/grandchildren/nephews/nieces etc. Somehow the word has
>spread all on it's own. Thinking seriously of changing my name and phone
>number.

It won't help. They'll still track you down. Don't think even the Witness
Protection program could help you against a determined mother.
And once you choose one, you'll be hearing "my kid/niece/grandkid was soooo
much cuter, would have been much better, behaved better, etc." for years. You
will never hear the end of it. Ever.
Best out is to lie like crazy.
Use a pro and tell workers/friends/strangers that the child model guild have
threatened to come out and break your kneecaps if you didn't use a member and
that the guild is sending a suitable child you have to use.
Or pray the president of the company -- any company, doesn't matter -- has a
usable kid.

Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio

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Dec 9, 2002, 5:15:07 PM12/9/02
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Oh, man... you brang back memories of my own! To cut a long story short...
same situation...photographer tell his girlfriend that he *might* use a baby
for a shooting.

GF tells her mom.

Mom tells sisters, all five of them.

Sisters tell their friends. ALL OF THEM.

The day after, picture this: the phone at the studio ringing endlessly.

Then people would come unannounced to the studio bringing babies while we're
shooting others things!

Then people get angry on the phone being always busy.

Then angry people would come to the studio to complain why their baby didn't
get chosen...even asking for the cab money!

Bottomline: never say to anybody that you need a baby for a shooting...just
go to the model agency and asTHEM instead. It's gonna cost you...but
afterwards at least you'll still to have a life and have spared a lot of
people hating your guts for as long as you shall live for not using their
baby...specially when at the end it never was any baby shooting!

And as usual, I'm NOT joking about this.

:-)

Pepe
Milano, Italy
PS: Stan, my man; you're still alive; consider yourself very lucky!


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Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio

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Dec 9, 2002, 5:16:13 PM12/9/02
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Laura; see my post to Stan...

:-)

Pepe
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LauraK

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Dec 9, 2002, 7:52:38 PM12/9/02
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>
>Laura; see my post to Stan...
>
>:-)
>

You're preaching to the choir. I covered "Youth Sports" as a reporter for two
years. Was supposed to do it for a third year but refused to do it unless I
had:
1. a very large, very mean body guard with me at all times.
2. was allowed to carry a shotgun.
I've been chased -- and I mean chased -- through grocery stores by parents who
felt I should have mentioned their kid in a story, not because the kid did
anything -- he or she never got in the game -- but because it damaged his or
her self-esteem to never be mentioned when so and so got their name in the
paper just because they hit a home run/scored the winning goal, etc. and after
all ALL the kids work hard and ALL the kids play their hearts out. It shouldn't
be about winning and losing!
It is in the Sports section.
I never did decide who was worse, the softball dads or the soccer moms.

artonio7

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Dec 9, 2002, 8:25:51 PM12/9/02
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I did a 1 year project entitled "One Chair" based on a word of mouth
premise. I put the word out that I was doing the project requiring about 300
people to sit for a portrait in pastel. I required at least 3 hours of each
persons time and if they would be willing to give more time then that would
be fine. I started by telling 5 people. I had enough people throughout the
year to complete my project and then some. I had to turn many away. Some sat
for me as I did their portraits for 3 hours and many very graciously gave me
7 or more hours. At the end of the year I had completed my 300 portraits met
many new people... People were actually coming from other states to
participate.
In fact when I moved to New York some people tracked me down there wanting
to sit for the project which had already been completed. I guess vanity can
be a mixed blessing.

with warm regards,
Tony
http://artonio7.com

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