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MindBrain
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> Berard Associates @ http://www.berarddesign.com
>
I think it's good, except it seems since you're taking a minimal approach I
think the "Hello, Thank you...blah blah...." greeting is out of place.
I was taught if you're going to use minimalism (or any other idea) to go
ahead and do it All The Way.
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>I think it's good, except it seems since you're taking a minimal approach I
>think the "Hello, Thank you...blah blah...." greeting is out of place.
>
>I was taught if you're going to use minimalism (or any other idea) to go
>ahead and do it All The Way.
I thought I'd use your post to repost a bit I posted yesterday and to
point out the difference between MINIMALIST ART and minimalism. The
former is NOT ABOUT REDUCING ELEMENTS IN THE COMPOSITION the idea is
to reduce the FORM and DESIGN of the individual elements in order to
achieve an ABSTRACTION FROM THE REAL. The later, minimalism, is about
trying to get rid of everything, destroy any and all forms of "art"
and keeping only the bare functioning necessities.
Personally it's one of my biggest pet peeves, especially with
deficients who try and couch their inabilities in the form of being
trendy and artistic. Achieving minimalism (NOT minimalist art) is NOT
artistic...it's nothing, it's a pathetic hole of emptiness and does
nothing but show your ignorance and lack of artistic ability.
Here's the post I made earlier to some dumbfuck who was trying to
claim their stain:
http://www.helloworldwebdesign.com/
was a form of minimalist art.
:Sorry Fat Hannigan, but that's how philistines like you perceive art
:(as it being all subject). Art actually isn't subjective AT ALL and
:depending on what specific genre or style you're attempting it's quite
:easy to grade a piece. In Mara's case it has been argued for her that
:she was going for a minimalist art look, that being the case her work
:simply doesn't measure up at all. I mean if you wanted to ignore all
:the functional design deficiencies I pointed out (with her links and
:the navigation), what you have left is a single, monochromatic,
:monosaturated shit color of brown with plain black text on top of it.
:
:In minimalist art, the idea is to express a kind of abstraction from
:the real by stripping down objects to their elemental, geometric form
:and to present them in an impersonal manner. In Mara's site...there's
:nothing TO be stripped down, there simply ISN'T ANYTHING THERE. You
:couldn't simply pick a single color, splash it over yer canvas and
:then run around calling it minimalist art. At a stretch you might try
:and claim it's a minimalist art background, albeit a completely
:unimaginative one. The idea with GOOD minimalist art is to try and
:make it as COMPLEX as you can while STILL maintaining the abstraction
:from the real. It's HARDER to do that, which is WHY that's considered
:to be BETTER than EASY MINIMALIST ART like Mara's pathetic background
:(which requires no thought nor any skill to reproduce). Where as you
:take a site like nyah:
:http://www.csszengarden.com/
:
:THAT is an example of REALLY GOOD minimalist art in that it has MANY
:ELEMENTS, objects and forms which are all being abstracted from the
:real. Minimalist art is NOT about trying to achieve NOTHING, if it
:were, there wouldn't BE minimalist art, because you could simply
:produce nothing and that would wind up being the quintessence of the
:style.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
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MindBrain
"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 05:29:02 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I think it's good, except it seems since you're taking a minimal approach
>>I
>>think the "Hello, Thank you...blah blah...." greeting is out of place.
>>
>>I was taught if you're going to use minimalism (or any other idea) to go
>>ahead and do it All The Way.
>
> I thought I'd use your post to repost a bit I posted yesterday and to
> point out the difference between MINIMALIST ART and minimalism.
Are you kidding? You arguing there is some difference between saying
'Minimalist Art' and 'Minimalism' ?
> former is NOT ABOUT REDUCING ELEMENTS IN THE COMPOSITION the idea is
> to reduce the FORM and DESIGN of the individual elements in order to
> achieve an ABSTRACTION FROM THE REAL.
There is no difference between the 2 terms, are you just saying 'Minimalist
Art' is the successful version of 'Minimalism' ? If so then whats the point,
why not just say it's 'Successful Minimalism' or the attempt produced
'unsuccessful minimalism'
>The later, minimalism, is about
> trying to get rid of everything, destroy any and all forms of "art"
Err No, minimalism is an art form, period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism
> and keeping only the bare functioning necessities.
>
> Personally it's one of my biggest pet peeves, especially with
> deficients who try and couch their inabilities in the form of being
> trendy and artistic. Achieving minimalism (NOT minimalist art) is NOT
> artistic...
Often times in graphic design it's harder to make successful minimalism
because the tools are easier to use, in a few seconds on the computer you
can make the same shapes a painter would take weeks or months to make, but
people will see through it if it doesn't show control of the idea.
MindBrain
"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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> wrote:
>
>>I think it's good, except it seems since you're taking a minimal approach
>>I
>>think the "Hello, Thank you...blah blah...." greeting is out of place.
>>
>>I was taught if you're going to use minimalism (or any other idea) to go
>>ahead and do it All The Way.
>
> to reduce the FORM and DESIGN of the individual elements in order to
> achieve an ABSTRACTION FROM THE REAL. The later, minimalism, is about
> trying to get rid of everything, destroy any and all forms of "art"
> and keeping only the bare functioning necessities.
Although yes this is a good point, as in, reducing elements doesn't
automatically result in Minimalism. But Minimalism generally does mean a
reduction of elements. The idea is to produce/enhance design through this
reduction of elements.
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>> I thought I'd use your post to repost a bit I posted yesterday and to
>> point out the difference between MINIMALIST ART and minimalism.
>Are you kidding? You arguing there is some difference between saying
>'Minimalist Art' and 'Minimalism' ?
Duh uh...you is teh STUPID, huh?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/minimalist
1. a person who favors a moderate approach to the achievement of a set
of goals or who holds minimal expectations for the success of a
program.
2. a practitioner of minimalism in music or art.
3. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of minimalism.
4. being or offering no more than what is required or essential: a
minimalist program for tax reform.
Woah, you mean a word can have MORE THAN ONE definition?! HOLY SHIT
BATMAN WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED!?
...well apparently not the Wiki slurper...ya fuckin retard.
MindBrain
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:43:02 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> I thought I'd use your post to repost a bit I posted yesterday and to
>>> point out the difference between MINIMALIST ART and minimalism.
>
>>Are you kidding? You arguing there is some difference between saying
>>'Minimalist Art' and 'Minimalism' ?
>
> Duh uh...you is teh STUPID, huh?
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/minimalist
>
> 1. a person who favors a moderate approach to the achievement of a set
> of goals or who holds minimal expectations for the success of a
> program.
>
> 2. a practitioner of minimalism in music or art.
>
> 3. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of minimalism.
>
> 4. being or offering no more than what is required or essential: a
> minimalist program for tax reform.
>
> Woah, you mean a word can have MORE THAN ONE definition?! HOLY SHIT
> BATMAN WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED!?
>
> ...well apparently not the Wiki slurper...ya fuckin retard.
>
I fail to see your point...........Is it because, THERE ISN'T ONE ?
Yea I thought so
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
Oh boy, Dribbles is just ESPECIALLY slow today I guess. It's okay,
I'll try and explain it the SLOW WAY, just to humor your deficiency.
Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
impossible because a word can't have more than one meaning.
You're a retard. Find yourself a mirror, sit down in front of it and
calmly explain to the drooling fool in front of you that he's a
retard.
After that go here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/minimalist
You see all them funny lil symbols? You know the ones that look like:
1, 2, 3, 4, etc? Well ya see Bumbles, those are what we like to call
"NUMBERS" and these "numbers" are used to describe how MANY of
something that you have.
Now, in case it skipped you, which I'm sure it did, that link is a
"DICTIONARY". Now a "dictionary" is a tool that shows us definitions
for words. Woah, isn't that AMAZING?! I bet you never even knew such
a thing existed before today.
So the POINT that, APPARENTLY just flew right the fuck on over yer
pointed lil head, is that THERE IS MORE THAN ONE DEFINITION FOR
MINIMALIST.
The ORIGINAL POINT of my post was that RETARDS, like yourself (go sit
down in front of the mirror again, try and figure it out) often
confuse MINIMALIST REDUCTION with MINIMALIST ART...and apparently, as
is proven by your own posts, the reason why is because for some inane
fuckwitted Jesus killing reason, you think the word only has one
definition. DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM
...is it...is it clickin you yet? Or maybe it'll just take a few more
days to penetrate that great big ugly stupid fuckin thick skull of
yers.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
MindBrain
>
> Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
> minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
Hatter goes off making up more words..............
Look here kid, the word is MINIMALISM
and how the word MINIMALISM
APPLIES to
fine art
graphic design
music
psychology
etc
<psychotic ramblings snipped>
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>
>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>news:3kcdr21emmsc1cs5s...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
>> minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
>Hatter goes off making up more words..............
>
>
>Look he<COCK SLAP>
WOW! Apparently in THE LAND OF FUCKING STUPID I invented the words
"minimalist", "art" and "reduction"! Yes, your Lord Cruel Angel truly
is the master of all. BOW BEFORE ME!
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm น x น
MindBrain
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:53:52 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>>news:3kcdr21emmsc1cs5s...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
>>> minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
>
>>Hatter goes off making up more words..............
>>
>>
>>Look he<COCK SLAP>
>
> WOW! Apparently in THE LAND OF FUCKING STUPID I invented the words
> "minimalist", "art" and "reduction"! Yes, your Lord Cruel Angel truly
> is the master of all. BOW BEFORE ME!
"Minimalist reduction" ??? what the F*#*(@ does that mean????
*awaits more Hatter nonsense*
Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:
>
>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>news:g82er25u6brdbmcbr...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:53:52 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3kcdr21emmsc1cs5s...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
>>>> minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
>>
>>>Hatter goes off making up more words..............
>>>
>>>
>>>Look he<COCK SLAP>
>>
>> WOW! Apparently in THE LAND OF FUCKING STUPID I invented the words
>> "minimalist", "art" and "reduction"! Yes, your Lord Cruel Angel truly
>> is the master of all. BOW BEFORE ME!
>
>"Minimalist reduction" ??? what the F*#*(@ does that mean????
>
>*awaits more Hatter nonsense*
Um, that would TWO WORDS, Mr. Retard. Perhaps in THE LAND OF FUCKING
STUPID there's an invisible hyphen between the two. Reality
though...boy that sure is a different story, innt?
Oh hey, reply again, and whatever you do...don't stop with that whole
"looking stupid" thing, cause gosh it's funny!
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ą x ą
MindBrain
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:53:35 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>>news:g82er25u6brdbmcbr...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:53:52 GMT, "MindBrain" <som...@microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:3kcdr21emmsc1cs5s...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Now look here, Bumbles, I'm saying that there's a difference between
>>>>> minimalist reduction and minimalist art...you're saying that, that's
>>>
>>>>Hatter goes off making up more words..............
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Look he<COCK SLAP>
>>>
>>> WOW! Apparently in THE LAND OF FUCKING STUPID I invented the words
>>> "minimalist", "art" and "reduction"! Yes, your Lord Cruel Angel truly
>>> is the master of all. BOW BEFORE ME!
>>
>>"Minimalist reduction" ??? what the F*#*(@ does that mean????
>>
>>*awaits more Hatter nonsense*
>
> Um, that would TWO WORDS, Mr. Retard. Perhaps in THE LAND OF FUCKING
> STUPID there's an invisible hyphen between the two. Reality
> though...boy that sure is a different story, innt?
>
> Oh hey, reply again, and whatever you do...don't stop with that whole
> "looking stupid" thing, cause gosh it's funny!
>
Hahaha good explanation there moron. I could have sworn you were just trying
to make the terms more complicated to make yourself sound smarter then you
really are.