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Carol Ott

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Dec 6, 2001, 10:31:54 PM12/6/01
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For anyone interested in the topic, this site offers some really good
information -- and it's not as overwhelming as W3C's site:
http://trace.wisc.edu/world/web/ .

Carol
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LauraK

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Dec 7, 2001, 1:46:25 AM12/7/01
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>For anyone interested in the topic, this site offers some really good
>information -- and it's not as overwhelming as W3C's site:
>http://trace.wisc.edu/world/web/ .

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but I just got an e-mail from Cnet
webuilders saying that Macromedia has a new accessiblity tool kit out.
http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=d0-vjHhQWWlr2Jvn8qXXz7wNGPR

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Carol Ott

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Dec 7, 2001, 9:00:08 AM12/7/01
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They do indeed, and some of the information pertains to Flash, if you can
believe that. ;-)

Accessibility is going to be the Next Big Thing.....and this is a trend I
definitely support!

Carol
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Hunter Elliott

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"Carol Ott" <cs...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> They do indeed, and some of the information pertains to Flash, if you can
> believe that. ;-)
>
> Accessibility is going to be the Next Big Thing.....and this is a trend I
> definitely support!

I had just purchased the UltraDev4 package about 2 weeks ago - I called up
MM and the person on the phone was rather unflagging in her partyline
attitude of "sorry, the free solutions kit is only if you buy the DW
products between December 2001 and March 2002".... so I just reregistered my
product and clicked on the option to order the Solutions Kit CD :) I guess
I'll find out in 4 to 6 weeks if they'll send me the CD. Accessibility is
probably going to be the #1 or #2 item on the redesign of the website of the
company I work for.


Carol Ott

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Dec 7, 2001, 10:05:34 AM12/7/01
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I would send them an e-mail and describe your poor customer service
experience. I've found that Macromedia has excellent service, and they
would be interested in knowing when a customer is dissatisfied.

Carol
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Fred Doyle

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Dec 7, 2001, 5:34:58 PM12/7/01
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I think the ability to make Web sites as close to "universally accessible"
as possible, is going to determine who gets contracts to do Web work for
large corporations and institutions, and probably for many smaller
oraganizations, as well. They all have a pretty clear mandate to make their
points of public access available to all. In other words, if you want to do
Web work, graphic designers, learn what it means to make your work
"accessible"


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Carol Ott

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Dec 7, 2001, 7:01:53 PM12/7/01
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For the government, there is no "if". It's the law.

Carol
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Fred Doyle

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Dec 7, 2001, 7:08:59 PM12/7/01
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I'm sure its only a matter of time until someone argues that all
accessibility laws apply to online businesses in the same way they apply to
bricks and mortar stores. If the Barnes & Noble in my town has to provide
reasonable accessibilty to the public, one can argue that B&N online has to,
as well.

Right now, you are right. It's a clear mandate in government, especially
here in NYS.

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Carol Ott

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Dec 7, 2001, 7:40:49 PM12/7/01
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Funny you mention Barnes & Noble.

I'm still trying to figure out how they got away with designing a totally
wheelchair-unfriendly store. The B&N on M Street in DC is probably the most
inaccessible building I've ever been in. Granted, I don't have a
wheelchair, but I do have a baby and stroller. If I have a hard time, I
can't imagine how someone handicapped gets around in their store. There is
a set of stairs leading from the magazines to the books and elevators. No
ramp, no nothing. So I guess wheelchair-bound people can only buy
magazines?

Carol
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LauraK

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Dec 7, 2001, 8:45:24 PM12/7/01
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>I'm still trying to figure out how they got away with designing a totally
>wheelchair-unfriendly store. The B&N on M Street in DC is probably the most
>inaccessible building I've ever been in. Granted, I don't have a
>wheelchair, but I do have a baby and stroller.>>

Most of the Georgetown area is a designated historic district and different
rules/exceptions apply because they are restricted on what changes they can and
cannot make to buildings.


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Carol Ott

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Dec 7, 2001, 11:25:18 PM12/7/01
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The entire interior of the building was gutted and renovated. None of the
interior is historically correct. I wondered how they got away with that,
too. We have to deal with the architectural review people all the time, and
without naming names, there are a few of them who would probably be more
comfortable in a brown uniform with the letters "SS" sewn on the sleeve. So
it was really strange that the B&N is one of the very few buildings along
that corridor that was completely redone -- and there were no repercussions.
There's an athletic shoe place that was redone inside, too...and not to
Federal architecture standards. (I'm talking about the Federal style of
architecture -- not the government).

The Georgetown Station Post Office, on the other hand, is accessible. And
it's one of the most important buildings in Georgetown in terms of history
and architecture. It was renovated around the same time they put in the
B&N, I believe (give or take a year or two). In fact, federal law dictates
that any new renovations (that change the building's structure/interior
beyond a certain percentage) shall be ADA compliant by completion -- so
historic or not, the B&N slid by without anyone saying anything. Very
odd......

By the way, my office is right down the one way street that runs alongside
the B&N. I'm right on the canal. Come by on a Tuesday or Thursday between
11 AM and 5 or 6 PM and you may see me. ;-)

Carol
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