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A Priest Methodically Reveals Ukrainian Jews' Fate - Nazis' murder of 1.5 million Jews?

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A Priest Methodically Reveals Ukrainian Jews' Fate - Nazis' murder of 1.5
million Jews?

By ELAINE SCIOLINO
Published: October 6, 2007

Patrick Desbois roams Ukraine's back roads and forgotten fields to document
the Nazis' murder of 1.5 million Jews.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/06/world/europe/06priest.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=login


Some gems from that NY Times article:

"Vera Filonok said she was 16 when she watched from the porch of her mud
hut in Konstantinovka in 1941 as thousands of Jews were shot, thrown into a
pit and set on fire. Those who were still alive writhed "like flies and
worms," she said.

Other witnesses described how the Nazis were allowed only one bullet to the
back per victim and that the Jews sometimes were buried alive. "One witness
told of how the pit moved for three days, how it breathed," Father Desbois
recalled.

It was on a tour with a group in 2002 that, visiting Rava-Ruska, he asked
the mayor where the Jews were buried. The mayor said he did not know.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/06/world/europe/06priest.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"One witness told of how the pit moved for three days, how it breathed,"

Those who were still alive writhed "like flies and worms," she said.

..the horror in Ukraine was hidden away, first by the Nazis, then by the
Soviets."

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The Soviets hid proof of Nazi atrocities? Or their own?

2005-07-08UKRAINE: NO PLACE FOR THE HOLODOMOR MEMORIAL

KYIV - Waiting for the holodomor memorial in Kyiv? Don't hold your breath.

On July 2 Vechirniy Kyiv, the newspaper owned by the Kyiv city
council, had this to say: "The issue of the final location of the
memorial to victims of the holodomor and political repression is far
from completion."

Seventy-two years after the genocide of millions of Ukrainians by
Moscow-based totalitarian regime, 14 years after Ukraine threw off its
imperialistic shackles, four years after high-level decision to "do it
now," the memorial complex remains "far from completion." Independent
Ukraine seems to live in denial.


Seventy-two years after the greatest disaster of Ukrainian people
there still is no place for a center to study it and keep the memory
of it alive.

http://www.lucorg.com/luc/news.php?id=745

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In February 1997 a Ukrainian court threw out a case brought by Ukrainian
Jews against V. Kretytnychy of the St. Andrew Society and E. Musiyenko,
editor of the Kiev Evening News (Vechirnyi Kyiv), who challenged the
official Babi Yar story.

"What is now coming to the fore is incontrovertible proof that no
massacre took place at Babi Yar during the German occupation of Kiev; that
the ravine was not used as a mass grave for Jews killed by the Germans. But
it was a burial field between 1922-1935 for the victims of the Cheka/NKVD."


Cheka
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1922, the Cheka was transformed into the State Political Administration
or GPU, a section of the NKVD of the Russian SFSR.

The agency performed mass arrests, imprisonments, and executions of "enemies
of the people". In this, the Cheka targeted "class enemies" such as the
bourgeoisie, members of the clergy, and political opponents of the new
regime.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka

"We have executed some twenty or thirty thousand persons, perhaps fifty
thousand. They were all spies, traitors, enemies within our ranks, a very
small number in proportion to the persons of this kind then in Russia. We
instituted the Red Terror at a time of war, when the enemy was marching upon
us from without and the enemy within was preparing to help him. Scotland
Yard executed spies and traitors also in war time".

- Unnamed Cheka official quoted by an English journalist in 1929.

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Cheka


CHEKA TERROR RULE PUT 50,000 TO DEATH; Bolshevist Forces Struck in the Night
to Plant Fear in the Hearts of the People.

By WALTER DURANTY.
NY Times
September 14, 1923, Friday

Page 9, 1213 words

LONDON, Sept. 13. -- The "Cheka," or Extraordinary Commission for the
Suppression of Counter-Revolution, to give it its full official title,
ceased to exist as such in the early part of last year when it was brought
under the control of the Ministry of the Interior on the same lines as the
American Department of Justice or the British Scotland Yard.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50F16FF3E5416738DDDAD0994D1405B838EF1D3

Russian Emigres Honor the Memory Of Cheka Victims
The Hartford Courant (1923-present) - Hartford, Conn.
Date: Aug 23, 1926

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/courant/access/821087372.html?dids=821087372:821087372&FMT=CITE&FMTS=CITE:AI&date=Aug+23%2C+1926&author=&pub=The+Hartford+Courant&desc=Russian+Emigres+Honor+the+Memory+Of+Cheka+Victims&pqatl=google


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El Kabong

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> A Priest Methodically Reveals Ukrainian Jews' Fate
> By ELAINE SCIOLINO
> Published: October 6, 2007
>
> Patrick Desbois roams Ukraine's back roads and forgotten fields to
document
> the Nazis' murder of 1.5 million Jews.
>

> October 6, 2007
> THE SATURDAY PROFILE
> A Priest Methodically Reveals Ukrainian Jewsš Fate


Before the Germans got to Kiev in 1941:

"In Kiev, practically all the Jews had left the city with the Red
Army. Only the elderly remained behind." - Hitler's Ten-Year War on
the Jews, New York Institute of Jewish Affairs of the American Jewish
Congress; World Jewish Congress 1943 p. 186.

http://www.ilab.org/db/book1462_7107.html

Elie Wiesel
The Jews of Silence
New York: New American Library, 1972
page 48.

How many Jews were killed at Babi Yar? Exact estimates are hard to
come by. Some say seventy thousand, others a hundred and fifty
thousand [...]

Eyewitnesses say that for months after the killing the ground
continued to spurt geysers of blood.
-------------------Some gems from that NY Times article: "Vera Filonok said
she was 16 when she watched from the porch of her mudhut in Konstantinovka
in 1941 as thousands of Jews were shot, thrown into apit and set on fire.


Those who were still alive writhed "like flies andworms," she said.Other
witnesses described how the Nazis were allowed only one bullet to theback
per victim and that the Jews sometimes were buried alive. "One witnesstold
of how the pit moved for three days, how it breathed," Father

Desboisrecalled.It was on a tour with a group in 2002 that, visiting
Rava-Ruska, he askedthe mayor where the Jews were buried. The mayor said he

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