What is "Share your experience" all about?

Some Guy

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Jun 30, 2004, 9:59:51 AM6/30/04

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At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:

"A user at our website is trying to find experiences about:
(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"

or

"A user is researching: (some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"

The return path for some of these e-mails are:

apa...@bender.shareopins.us
OPINION...@SHAREEXP.BIZ

The IP address where some of them originate is

69.111.139.189 (Pac Bell)
216.117.164.211 (home.findinformation.biz)

An example of the content of one of them is as follows:

------------------

This is not commercial email.

ALERT! - A user is trying to share experiences and opinions about you
via our website. The purpose of this email is to inform you that a
posting has been made about you at our website. This is email is not
commercial in nature.

If this email message was delivered to your spam or bulk email folder
please notify your ISP or spam filtering
company regarding this mistake on their part. To view all of the
postings about you use this link:

http://2.shyxpe.us/lx.php?a=search&b=5&c=(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)

This website also includes a highly valuable Daily Searching System.
This is a simple system in which you can
set-up searches that this website will perform for you each and every
day. After performing the searches that
you have specified, our Daily Searching System will send your search
results to you via email.

By setting up Daily Searches for all the people and businesses that
matter to you, you will be assured to find
out right away when a user submits a Experience Request that is
interesting to you.

IMPORTANT - To add this email address to our Do Not Email List click
here:

http://9.sharingexper.biz/lx.php?a=donotemail&b=(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)

Sincerely, SYEC Support

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I assume that the purpose of these e-mails is to test if
(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com) is a valid e-mail address. Also,
by operating a website such as

http://shareyourexperiences.com

I assume the point of such a web site is to attract people that will

(1) add their own e-mail address to a database when they register
(2) add additional e-mail address to "search" for

The point of both of them is to add addresses to a spam mailing list.

An indication that spammers are becoming (more?) desperate to obtain
valid e-mail addresses?

Bill Carton - (The Roadie)

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Jun 30, 2004, 10:43:20 AM6/30/04

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Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:

>At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
>
>"A user at our website is trying to find experiences about:
>(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"
>
>or
>
>"A user is researching: (some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"
>
>The return path for some of these e-mails are:
>
>apa...@bender.shareopins.us
>OPINION...@SHAREEXP.BIZ
>
>The IP address where some of them originate is
>
>69.111.139.189 (Pac Bell)
>216.117.164.211 (home.findinformation.biz)
>
>An example of the content of one of them is as follows:
>
>------------------
>
>This is not commercial email.
>
>ALERT! - A user is trying to share experiences and opinions about you
>via our website. The purpose of this email is to inform you that a
>posting has been made about you at our website. This is email is not
>commercial in nature.
>

>-------------------

Of course the spammer (John Torrey) lies. It may not be immediately
commercial, but it will soon turn into that. And it's still spam.

>
>I assume that the purpose of these e-mails is to test if
>(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com) is a valid e-mail address.

It's also a set-up to try to sell you something later - probably a
"membership" so you can actually read what the unidentified strangers are
saying about you.

GoDaddy nuked 13 of this idiot's other domains this week, but missed one.
They have been notified.

You might want to go after his hosting company, but they're friendly to
spammers. Very ancient SPEWS listing: http://www.spews.org/html/S520.html

--
Bill "the Roadie" Carton

Some Guy

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Jun 30, 2004, 10:45:29 AM6/30/04

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Mike Easter wrote:

> Some Guy wrote:
> > At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
>

> Yeah? And just what possessed you to crosspost that important bit
> of information to all those ng/s?

Because the 3 NG's I posted to have something in common: They either
have the word "spam" in them, or in some way deal with the "abuse" of
e-mail (which again spam _is_ an abuse of e-mail).

Curious that you think that posts to "alt.spam" are not appropriate
for "alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam". Maybe you can explain the
difference in what sort of topics are appropriate for one but not the
other.

(not that I want to dwell on this arcane discussion - I'd much rather
see some discourse on my original post)

Scrape This

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Jun 30, 2004, 11:06:43 AM6/30/04

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"Some Guy" <So...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:40E2C757...@Guy.com...

I'm receiving these at my $DAYJOB - without paying for a membership you
can't see what people are saying/requesting about you...

_______________

Reply address is 1gxk3qg02 over at the domain sneakemail.com

McWebber

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Jun 30, 2004, 11:24:53 AM6/30/04

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"Bill Carton - (The Roadie)" <wca...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:23k5e0lg2nt6ptrcg...@4ax.com...

> Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:
>
> >At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
> >
> >"A user at our website is trying to find experiences about:
> >(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"
> >

> >I assume that the purpose of these e-mails is to test if
> >(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com) is a valid e-mail address.
>
> It's also a set-up to try to sell you something later - probably a
> "membership" so you can actually read what the unidentified strangers are
> saying about you.
>
> GoDaddy nuked 13 of this idiot's other domains this week, but missed one.
> They have been notified.

They missed more than one.
See my replies in the "Share Your Ex" - suspended by GoDaddy! thread. A lot
of the domains registered via Wild West Domains division of Google didn't
get nuked.

learning-information.us
learninginformation.biz
share-experiences.biz
share-experiences.us
shareyexp.us
shareyourexperiences1.com

--
McWebber
"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

Mike Easter

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Jun 30, 2004, 11:50:35 AM6/30/04

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Some Guy wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Some Guy wrote:
>>> At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
>>
>> Yeah? And just what possessed you to crosspost that important bit
>> of information to all those ng/s?
>
> Because the 3 NG's I posted to have something in common: They either
> have the word "spam" in them, or in some way deal with the "abuse" of
> e-mail (which again spam _is_ an abuse of e-mail).

There are many ng/s which have something in common. There are usually
many different newsgroups that a person could post any given message
into; that doesn't mean that they should post the messge into all of
the different ng/s which might have an 'interest' in the particular
topic. Crossposting, in general, should be avoided, not considered to
be a good way to do something. As a general rule, most crossposting is
done because the poster has overrated the 'importance' of what they have
to say or ask.

Sometimes someone crossposts to a number of different groups because
they want to attract a wider audience than would be met by posting to a
single ng. But, when they do, it is 'imperative' that they construct
the message so that the followups are directed to a single group. It is
completely inappropriate to initiate a topic into multiple ng/s without
such a limiting followup construction.

I don't know whether or not you follow all of the groups which you
initially posted into, but of the three, nanae is far and away the
busiest. You would have plenty of 'exposure' just posting to nanae - in
which case there is no 'need' to be posting your item into the other
groups. Or, if you wanted to bring your important topic to all of those
groups, then you should have limited the fups to nanae.

> Curious that you think that posts to "alt.spam" are not appropriate
> for "alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam". Maybe you can explain the
> difference in what sort of topics are appropriate for one but not the
> other.

The business about which one is the very /best/ isn't exactly the issue.
The issue is to post it into a particular group and discuss it there.
Or, if you absolutely must, which I don't think you do, have to
crosspost it to multiple groups, then limit the fups to just one group.

> (not that I want to dwell on this arcane discussion - I'd much rather
> see some discourse on my original post)

I'd much rather see less crossposting, too.

--
Mike Easter | http://www.verifiedvoting.org
Voter-Verified Paper Trail for 2004 Elections

Catherine Hampton

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Jun 30, 2004, 11:50:07 PM6/30/04

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:06:43 -0400, "Scrape This" <y33s...@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

>I'm receiving these at my $DAYJOB - without paying for a membership you
>can't see what people are saying/requesting about you...

Yes, this is the old "Word of Mouth" scam/fraud. Essentially, the owner puts up
a web site, and then spams telling people that someone has posted about them to
the private, members-only web site. To see what was said, you too have to shell
out for a membership.

I read over on SpamHaus that a few people who paid and then looked couldn't find
anything about themselves. So I am treating this whole thing as a scam/fraud in
the SpamBouncer.

A complete list of domains I know to be associated with this fraud is attached.
If anyone knows about others, I'd love to hear about it in email. My email
address is below. (If you use the one in the header, your email will end up in
my spamtrap, which probably isn't that bad in this case since I use the spamtrap
to update the SpamBouncer.) <G>

--
Catherine Hampton <ar...@spambouncer.org>
Home Page * <http://www.devsite.org/>
The SpamBouncer * <http://www.spambouncer.org/>

(Please use this address for replies -- the address in my header is a
spam trap.)

Bill Carton - (The Roadie)

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Jul 1, 2004, 12:45:11 AM7/1/04

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"McWebber" <mcwe...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>"Bill Carton - (The Roadie)" <wca...@flash.net> wrote in message
>news:23k5e0lg2nt6ptrcg...@4ax.com...
>> Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:
>>
>> >At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
>> >
>> >"A user at our website is trying to find experiences about:
>> >(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"
>> >
>> >I assume that the purpose of these e-mails is to test if
>> >(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com) is a valid e-mail address.
>>
>> It's also a set-up to try to sell you something later - probably a
>> "membership" so you can actually read what the unidentified strangers are
>> saying about you.
>>
>> GoDaddy nuked 13 of this idiot's other domains this week, but missed one.
>> They have been notified.
>
>They missed more than one.
>See my replies in the "Share Your Ex" - suspended by GoDaddy! thread. A lot
>of the domains registered via Wild West Domains division of Google didn't
>get nuked.
>
>learning-information.us
>learninginformation.biz
>share-experiences.biz
>share-experiences.us
>shareyexp.us
>shareyourexperiences1.com

Hmmmm. I think Adrian thought he was getting them all. Have you forwarded
this mop-up list to abuse at godaddy? Newsgroups have been getting less
attention than swinging the ol' bloody mallet recently.

Jay Stuler

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Jul 1, 2004, 1:04:22 AM7/1/04

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"Some Guy" <So...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:40E2C757...@Guy.com...

> At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:

*snip*

http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/wordofmouth.asp

Werehatrack

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Jul 1, 2004, 2:09:10 AM7/1/04

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:59:51 -0400, Some Guy <So...@Guy.com> wrote:

>At least once a week I'm getting e-mail with subjects like:
>
>"A user at our website is trying to find experiences about:
>(some_e-mail_address@my_domain.com)"

It's yet another morph of the same scam that has been seen using such
domain names as wordofmouth.com and similar variants for well over a
year now.

Ignore it. Your wallet is all that will be enlightened if you bite on
that bait.
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Richard Johnson

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Jul 1, 2004, 8:49:00 AM7/1/04

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In article <5927e0d0fem8rj39f...@4ax.com>,
Catherine Hampton <spam...@spambouncer.org> wrote:

> A complete list of domains I know to be associated with this fraud is attached.
> If anyone knows about others, I'd love to hear about it in email.

Thanks for the list. Here are three more.

reportdatabase.com 554 blocked dom spamhaus inject. See <http://www.river.com/ops/nospam/>

shyxe.biz 554 blocked dom spamhaus haven-sd. See <http://www.river.com/ops/nospam/>
shyxp.biz 554 blocked dom spamhaus haven-sd. See <http://www.river.com/ops/nospam/>

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McWebber

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Jul 1, 2004, 9:34:58 AM7/1/04

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"Bill Carton - (The Roadie)" <wca...@flash.net> wrote in message

news:nj57e05sm6vd5nag9...@4ax.com...

I haven't sent it since I didn't have any spam from those domains to send.