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From: Eagle Eye <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
Date: 19 Jun 2001 23:52:56 -0000
Local: Tues, Jun 19 2001 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Roots of the New Left
In article <3B2E9FA0.BF61...@verizon.net> Scott Erb
<vze2k...@verizon.net> wrote:The employees agreed to work for their salary. You agreed to work
>Lynette Warren wrote:
>> Scott Erb <scott....@verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Such questions are pretty useless.
>> So you no longer hold the following sentiment?:
>> "Was I stealing? Sure, according to the law. But I felt
>> > There was a point in my life
for your salary and to honestly charge the price that the owner
wanted to charge.
Beck never asked for any government services.
How is it similar?
>But in thinking it through I'm leaning much stronger towardsHow could it possibly be a "tough call"? You cheated your
>avoiding that kind of logic, as it makes it too easy to
>rationalize what is convenient. But it's a tough call.
employer. No matter what a loudmouth asshole he was, you still
agreed to do your job.
If you thought he was lousy, you could have quit. You could have
This is an ethical no-brainer. You failed. You're a thief.
>> > I would rationalize on the grounds of "defensive use of force"Honest people who don't demand that others knuckle under to
>> > theft if it was because I believed people were being exploited
>> > (e.g., giving free food to employees when they should pay half
>> > price, etc.) Over time, I've decided that is inappropriate,
>> "Inappropriate" as in wrong or as in, "I'd better stop admitting
>> to the pizza thing or people will realize what a morally
>> bankrupt weasel I really am."
>Given the kind of folk you hang around with on the internet group,
>your comment is ironic.
>> > Here's one we talked about today in a seminar: a man's wife isI can't say that I agree with Lynette and Billy on every
>> > dying and she needs medication. The druggist refuses to lower
>> > the price, and the man can't afford it. He pleads, but to
>> > know avail. If the woman doesn't get the drug, she will die.
>> > Should he steal it? Surprisingly, EVERYONE argued that he
>> > should,
>> Surprisingly. You're surprised that in the Age of Entitlement
>> the educational system and a generation of mostly braindead
>> parents have delivered a bumper crop of mind numbed relativists
>> to your classroom doorstep.
>Must be tough for you to live in this world when you're so
>convinced that almost everyone has it wrong and only you and a few
>others see the light. But hey, that's where the fantasies of
>"ruination" come in, dreaming it all come crashing down, and the
>those with the proper belief will emerge on top! Pathetic.
issue. That is irrelevant to the issue of your thievery.
What I do agree with them is that no one should take anything of
e.g., Professor Fuforah of Haughty University wrote a book called
e.g., We've had government for thousands of years and modern democracy
e.g., If we don't permit government to coerce people, it will all
e.g., Most people support our current form of government and reject
e.g., "Must be tough for you to live in this world when you're so
e.g., X is a grassy knoll nutcase, so we shouldn't take anything
Try to justify taking something from someone which they didn't agree
Take from no man what he hasn't agreed to give you.
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