Escalating terrorism and an unasked question
Saskia
Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does Bin
Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us into
an open war? I can't help but wonder.
Terrorist/guerilla tactics won the US its indendence. Will those tactics,
used by outside forces, one day lose it for us?
Saskia
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No excuses for not acting...and no mercy for whiners.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
>Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
>weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
>
>Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
>with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does Bin
>Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us into
>an open war? I can't help but wonder....
...how to best frame it for political advantage.
>
>Terrorist/guerilla tactics won the US its indendence. Will those tactics,
>used by outside forces, one day lose it for us?
>
>Saskia
-
John T. Kennedy III
No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/no_treason/
The Wild Shall Ever Wild Remain!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/itswhatitisnow.html
Rob Robertson
"John T. Kennedy" <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> In <01c0ff62$472a3440$33c079a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
> >Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
> >weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
> >
> >Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
> >with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does Bin
> >Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us into
> >an open war? I can't help but wonder....
>
> ...how to best frame it for political advantage.
Spot on, John.
> >Terrorist/guerilla tactics won the US its indendence. Will those tactics,
> >used by outside forces, one day lose it for us?
> >
> >Saskia
>
> -
>
> John T. Kennedy III
> No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/no_treason/
>
> The Wild Shall Ever Wild Remain!
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/itswhatitisnow.html
>
_
Rob
Saskia
<wno6OzNEZO2zDH...@4ax.com>...
> In <01c0ff62$472a3440$33c079a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
> >Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
> >weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
> >
> >Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
> >with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does
Bin
> >Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us
into
> >an open war? I can't help but wonder....
>
> ...how to best frame it for political advantage.
Elaborate, please.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><wno6OzNEZO2zDH...@4ax.com>...
>> In <01c0ff62$472a3440$33c079a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
>> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
>> >Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
>> >weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
>> >
>> >Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
>> >with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does Bin
>> >Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us
>> >into an open war? I can't help but wonder....
>>
>> ...how to best frame it for political advantage.
>
>Elaborate, please.
I carry no water for Bush, but look at the alternatives you offered to
frame the subject: Either Bin Laden will attack because Bush is a wimp
or because Bush is a hawk.
Myself, I wonder if the terrorists will attack because Bush has
stopped beating his wife or because he hasn't.
But either way it's clear who's at fault.
Wayne Mann
wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><wno6OzNEZO2zDH...@4ax.com>...
>> In <01c0ff62$472a3440$33c079a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
>> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
>> >Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
>> >weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
>> >
>> >Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
>> >with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does
>Bin
>> >Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us
>into
>> >an open war? I can't help but wonder....
>>
>> ...how to best frame it for political advantage.
>
>Elaborate, please.
>
>Saskia
Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
\\/ayne //\ann
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.
-- 10th Amendment to Constitution
Saskia
> >Elaborate, please.
>
> I carry no water for Bush, but look at the alternatives you offered to
> frame the subject: Either Bin Laden will attack because Bush is a wimp
> or because Bush is a hawk.
OK...take it out of the confines of the alternatives I offered. Give me a
why he would choose now as opposed to say back in November and December
when things were in a bit of a political turmoil...or why not wait a while
to see what Bush is going to do about this missile system...or wait til
some Muslim holy day. Guess I'm trying to put a method to this madness.
Any thoughts on that?
> Myself, I wonder if the terrorists will attack because Bush has
> stopped beating his wife or because he hasn't.
Cute, John.
> But either way it's clear who's at fault.
And that would be.....
Saskia
<0ttnjto7q1cmi1e2u...@4ax.com>...[snip]
> >Elaborate, please.
> >
> >Saskia
>
>
> Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
You got a million of them, haven't you, Wayne? ; )
Saskia
..."no gifs" til you cough up the answer I wanted.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><ENA7O56g8YmZM4...@4ax.com>...
>> In <01c10023$d97d2fc0$5ccc79a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
>> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>[snip]
>> >Elaborate, please.
>>
>> I carry no water for Bush, but look at the alternatives you offered to
>> frame the subject: Either Bin Laden will attack because Bush is a wimp
>> or because Bush is a hawk.
>
>OK...take it out of the confines of the alternatives I offered. Give me a
>why he would choose now as opposed to say back in November and December
>when things were in a bit of a political turmoil...
I have insufficient data to reasonably speculate on the matter.
>or why not wait a while
>to see what Bush is going to do about this missile system...or wait til
>some Muslim holy day. Guess I'm trying to put a method to this madness.
Fine, but why start with the assumption that Bush will be responsible
whatever happens? And oh, if for some reason the attacks do not
materialize will you give Bush credit for detering the attacks?
Why do I doubt that will happen?
>
>Any thoughts on that?
>
>> Myself, I wonder if the terrorists will attack because Bush has
>> stopped beating his wife or because he hasn't.
>
>Cute, John.
Just illustrating the age old rhetorical technique of embedding a
premise. I embedded the premise that Bush beats his wife just as you
embedded the premise that he will be responsible for the terrorist
attack. Maybe he will be, for all I know, but your rhetoric tells me
about you, not him.
>
>> But either way it's clear who's at fault.
>
>And that would be.....
>
>Saskia
-
Saskia
> >OK...take it out of the confines of the alternatives I offered. Give me
a
> >why he would choose now as opposed to say back in November and December
> >when things were in a bit of a political turmoil...
>
> I have insufficient data to reasonably speculate on the matter.
OK, Mr. Spock... ; )
> >or why not wait a while
> >to see what Bush is going to do about this missile system...or wait til
> >some Muslim holy day. Guess I'm trying to put a method to this madness.
>
> Fine, but why start with the assumption that Bush will be responsible
> whatever happens?
Because he's a new president, and Bin Laden may be testing the waters.
You have to agree that the media paints Bush as a bit of a buffoon. There
was a joke on Conan O'Brien last night that Cheney is going in for surgery
to have his pacemaker put in...and Bush will get to run the country for the
duration of the surgery...
Maybe Bin Laden wants to see just what will happen if he pushes.
> And oh, if for some reason the attacks do not
> materialize will you give Bush credit for detering the attacks?
Depends on if he actually was responsible or not, or if Bin Laden was just
bluffing.
> Why do I doubt that will happen?
Dunno...why do you?
> >Any thoughts on that?
> >
> >> Myself, I wonder if the terrorists will attack because Bush has
> >> stopped beating his wife or because he hasn't.
> >
> >Cute, John.
>
> Just illustrating the age old rhetorical technique of embedding a
> premise. I embedded the premise that Bush beats his wife just as you
> embedded the premise that he will be responsible for the terrorist
> attack. Maybe he will be, for all I know, but your rhetoric tells me
> about you, not him.
It's not Bush, the man. It's Bush in his capacity as president. In that
way, he is responsible. Just as Clinton would have been responsible, too,
had something happened during his regime.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
Assuming nothing happens, how will you know?
>
>> Why do I doubt that will happen?
>
>Dunno...why do you?
>
>> >Any thoughts on that?
>> >
>> >> Myself, I wonder if the terrorists will attack because Bush has
>> >> stopped beating his wife or because he hasn't.
>> >
>> >Cute, John.
>>
>> Just illustrating the age old rhetorical technique of embedding a
>> premise. I embedded the premise that Bush beats his wife just as you
>> embedded the premise that he will be responsible for the terrorist
>> attack. Maybe he will be, for all I know, but your rhetoric tells me
>> about you, not him.
>
>It's not Bush, the man. It's Bush in his capacity as president. In that
>way, he is responsible. Just as Clinton would have been responsible, too,
>had something happened during his regime.
Like OKC? Have you *ever* posted that Clinton was responsible for the
bombing in OKC? I'd be fascinated to see that.
Saskia
> >
> >Maybe Bin Laden wants to see just what will happen if he pushes.
> >
> >> And oh, if for some reason the attacks do not
> >> materialize will you give Bush credit for detering the attacks?
> >
> >Depends on if he actually was responsible or not, or if Bin Laden was
just
> >bluffing.
>
> Assuming nothing happens, how will you know?
State secrets and classified information being what it is, we probably
*won't* know until years down the road when they declassify the stuff.
[snip]
> >> Just illustrating the age old rhetorical technique of embedding a
> >> premise. I embedded the premise that Bush beats his wife just as you
> >> embedded the premise that he will be responsible for the terrorist
> >> attack. Maybe he will be, for all I know, but your rhetoric tells me
> >> about you, not him.
> >
> >It's not Bush, the man. It's Bush in his capacity as president. In
that
> >way, he is responsible. Just as Clinton would have been responsible,
too,
> >had something happened during his regime.
>
> Like OKC? Have you *ever* posted that Clinton was responsible for the
> bombing in OKC? I'd be fascinated to see that.
I didn't start posting til last August, so I wasn't around here during the
OKC bombing. Truthfully, I hadn't really thought about it in those terms,
John, but you do make a good point.
I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that Bush is a new
president and Bin Laden wants to see how he'll react.
I read a lot of the FNS transcripts about terrorism over the past few
months...it's not a pretty picture. But you wonder sometimes if the
picture they paint is merely an exaggerated hysterical paranoia to get the
bucks from the appropriations committee or does the danger really go that
deep.
Don't get me wrong, John...I don't take any of this lightly, and terrorism
is a very real threat. The opinion through most of the hearings is that
the 21st century will show a new way to wage war on the US.
The thing they kept bringing up during the hearings was that terrorism is
not as costly as a full scale war, and does more damage because they are
bringing the war to our home turf. And since terrorist acts are usally
done by small groups, they can covertly be funded by various governments
and a lot of times no one will be the wiser.
Wayne Mann
wrote:
>Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote in article
><0ttnjto7q1cmi1e2u...@4ax.com>...
>> On 28 Jun 2001 22:46:04 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>[snip]
>
>> >Elaborate, please.
>> >
>> >Saskia
>>
>>
>> Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
>
>You got a million of them, haven't you, Wayne? ; )
Want some candy little girl?
>
>Saskia
>..."no gifs" til you cough up the answer I wanted.
No answers till I get a response to my question, and no answer
till I GET the question. I have told you SVEVERAL times that I NEVER
received any message with that in it, don;t you read what I write?
johnz~
Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote:
> On 29 Jun 2001 23:22:52 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote in article
> ><0ttnjto7q1cmi1e2u...@4ax.com>...
> >> On 28 Jun 2001 22:46:04 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >> >Elaborate, please.
> >> >
> >> >Saskia
> >>
> >>
> >> Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
> >
> >You got a million of them, haven't you, Wayne? ; )
>
> Want some candy little girl?
Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
Saskia-gifs, or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
(Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
little painted-on dot eyes)
JS
>
> >
> >Saskia
> >..."no gifs" til you cough up the answer I wanted.
>
>
> No answers till I get a response to my question, and no answer
> till I GET the question. I have told you SVEVERAL times that I NEVER
> received any message with that in it, don;t you read what I write?
>
>
>
> \\/ayne //\ann
>
>
> The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
> nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
> or to the people.
>
> -- 10th Amendment to Constitution
--
A Short History Of The United States of America:
"Laugh all you want...I'm the one goin' down in history
as the Thomas Jefferson of squirrels."
Wayne Mann
<johns...@removethishome.net> wrote:
>In article <2rlsjtobaaom5p7q5...@4ax.com>,
> Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jun 2001 23:22:52 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote in article
>> ><0ttnjto7q1cmi1e2u...@4ax.com>...
>> >> On 28 Jun 2001 22:46:04 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >[snip]
>> >
>> >> >Elaborate, please.
>> >> >
>> >> >Saskia
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
>> >
>> >You got a million of them, haven't you, Wayne? ; )
>>
>> Want some candy little girl?
>
>Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
>
>Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
>Saskia-gifs, or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
>unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
>satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
>
>(Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
>little painted-on dot eyes)
>
>
>JS
Sure, go ahead Saskia, if you you like "LITTLE" boys. But if
you're interested in a "BIG" Mann than forget this creep and well get
down and dirty!
Saskia
> On 29 Jun 2001 23:22:52 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Wayne Mann <tp...@charter.net> wrote in article
> ><0ttnjto7q1cmi1e2u...@4ax.com>...
> >> On 28 Jun 2001 22:46:04 GMT, "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >> >Elaborate, please.
> >> >
> >> >Saskia
> >>
> >>
> >> Just wanting to get the most bang for the buck!
> >
> >You got a million of them, haven't you, Wayne? ; )
>
> Want some candy little girl?
Nope...my Daddy told me never to take candy from strangers...it rots your
teeth and dentists are expensive. However, drugs are OK...they don't rot
your teeth...
Saskia
Saskia
<johnsabotta-A8A0...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>...
> > Want some candy little girl?
>
> Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
>
> Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
I keep telling Wayne I don't do "nekkids"....but the old lech just won't
listen.
> ...or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
> unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
> satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters,
John? And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele videos?
Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack up
the leather, various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
> (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
> little painted-on dot eyes)
I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary internet
files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been places
she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...and has you for a role
model... ; )
Saskia
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in article
><johnsabotta-A8A0...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>...
>> > Want some candy little girl?
>>
>> Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
>>
>> Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
>> Saskia-gifs...
>
>I keep telling Wayne I don't do "nekkids"....but the old lech just won't
>listen.
>
>> ...or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
>> unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
>> satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
>
>Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters,
>John? And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele videos?
>Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack up
>the leather, various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
>and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
>any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
>airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
Talk is cheap, whiskey costs money, as do airline tickets.
I don't suppose you two have given any thought to taking the
discussion of this tawdry little rendezvous to private email? There
are people out here who have to try to keep their lunches down, after
all.
>
>> (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
>> little painted-on dot eyes)
>
>I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary internet
>files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been places
>she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...and has you for a role
>model... ; )
lungs are tracked by donuts, not cookies. everybody knows that.
Saskia
> >Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew
clusters,
> >John? And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele
videos?
> >Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack
up
> >the leather, various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
> >and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
> >any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
> >airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
>
> Talk is cheap, whiskey costs money, as do airline tickets.
John, when there is an unlimited supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters
involved, money is the last thing on my mind. Besides, that's what plastic
is for.
> I don't suppose you two have given any thought to taking the
> discussion of this tawdry little rendezvous to private email? There
> are people out here who have to try to keep their lunches down, after
> all.
Go pop a Zantac...you'll feel better...
> >> (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
> >> little painted-on dot eyes)
> >
> >I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary
internet
> >files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been
places
> >she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...and has you for a role
> >model... ; )
>
> lungs are tracked by donuts, not cookies. everybody knows that.
LOL! Very good!
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><tV0=O6jk+vOJmxMn...@4ax.com>...
>> In <01c10233$3e06b860$7dce79a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
>> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>[snip]
>> >Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew
>clusters,
>> >John? And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele
>videos?
>> >Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack
>up
>> >the leather, various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
>> >and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
>> >any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
>> >airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
>>
>> Talk is cheap, whiskey costs money, as do airline tickets.
>
>John, when there is an unlimited supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters
>involved, money is the last thing on my mind. Besides, that's what plastic
>is for.
But I thought you didn't take candy from strangers.
If you think you know *anyone* stranger than Sabotta it's clear to me
you have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon you
"met" on Usenet?
That's crazy talk, Saskia. Crazy talk.
It can only come to tears.
But by all means send me a postcard from Seattle, he has my address.
>
>> I don't suppose you two have given any thought to taking the
>> discussion of this tawdry little rendezvous to private email? There
>> are people out here who have to try to keep their lunches down, after
>> all.
>
>Go pop a Zantac...you'll feel better...
Thanks, but I'm just going to stop eating until this is over. I'm
taking no chances.
johnz~
"Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in article
> <johnsabotta-A8A0...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>...
> > > Want some candy little girl?
> >
> > Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
> >
> > Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
> > Saskia-gifs...
>
> I keep telling Wayne I don't do "nekkids"....but the old lech just won't
> listen.
>
> > ...or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
> > unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
> > satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
>
> Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters,
> John?
An infinite number of dark chocolate cashew clusters are available, my
dear. Enough for me to cover your reclining, trembling expectant naked
body with, preparatory to driving you mad with forbidden, unholy
pleasure.
> And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele videos?
Most of them are available, my little cashew cluster of desire.
Could I trouble you to pack a translucent nightie, and a straight black
wig? It will add a certain piquancy to our viewing of CASTLE OF BLOOD.
> Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack up
> the leather,
Yes!
> various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
Yay!
> and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...
Be still, my heart!
>hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
> any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
> airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
Possibly lung can accompany you through the checkpoint and x-ray them
right back if they prove difficult.
>
> > (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
> > little painted-on dot eyes)
>
> I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary internet
> files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been places
> she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...
? There is only one "grown-up lung" - and that's another story.
> and has you for a role
> model... ; )
Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
conduct.
JS
>
> Saskia
John T. Kennedy
<johns...@removethishome.net> wrote:
>In article <01c10233$3e06b860$7dce79a5@nirvana>,
> "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in article
>> <johnsabotta-A8A0...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>...
>> > > Want some candy little girl?
>> >
>> > Hey. Knock it off, Wayne - I saw Smurfette first.
>> >
>> > Adorable Saskia, please ignore Wayne and send *me* all relevant
>> > Saskia-gifs...
>>
>> I keep telling Wayne I don't do "nekkids"....but the old lech just won't
>> listen.
>>
>> > ...or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
>> > unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
>> > satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
>>
>> Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew clusters,
>> John?
>
>An infinite number of dark chocolate cashew clusters are available, my
>dear. Enough for me to cover your reclining, trembling expectant naked
>body with, preparatory to driving you mad with forbidden, unholy
>pleasure.
Yep, I started fasting none too soon, no over-the-counter remedy would
have gotten me through *that*.
Get a room funboy.
>
>> And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele videos?
>
>Most of them are available, my little cashew cluster of desire.
>
>Could I trouble you to pack a translucent nightie, and a straight black
>wig? It will add a certain piquancy to our viewing of CASTLE OF BLOOD.
>
>> Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack up
>> the leather,
>
>Yes!
>
>> various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
>
>Yay!
>
>> and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...
>
>Be still, my heart!
>
>>hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
>> any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
>> airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
>
>Possibly lung can accompany you through the checkpoint and x-ray them
>right back if they prove difficult.
They've learned. They don't x-ray shit when lung's around, they'd just
end up having to replace all the burnt out units.
>
>>
>> > (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
>> > little painted-on dot eyes)
>>
>> I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary internet
>> files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been places
>> she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...
>
>? There is only one "grown-up lung" - and that's another story.
>
>> and has you for a role
>> model... ; )
>
>Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
>conduct.
If you like her so much why don't you marry her?
Gandalf Grey
johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
news:johnsabotta-2A20...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
> conduct.
Except for the small detail that he screws dead bodies and has a penchant
for death threats.
John T. Kennedy
<ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
Where's your sense of romance?
johnz~
"Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
Try to control your painfully obvious envy, Hanson. Some of us (like
you) are just not fated to be as handsome, successful, universally
beloved and breathtakingly intelligent as I am.
Live with it. Or don't.
After all, the Columbia River is available for you to explore, and
chug-a-lugging a bottle of extra-strength Liquid Plumber will soon take
you to a place where you no longer need be tormented by my obvious
superiority, Richard.
Happy dreams,
JS
johnz~
You're so *vanilla*, John.
>
> >
> >> And that you finally got the complete set of Barbara Steele videos?
> >
> >Most of them are available, my little cashew cluster of desire.
> >
> >Could I trouble you to pack a translucent nightie, and a straight black
> >wig? It will add a certain piquancy to our viewing of CASTLE OF BLOOD.
> >
> >> Please tell me it's so. I'll book the next flight out as soon as I pack up
> >> the leather,
> >
> >Yes!
> >
> >> various accessories, the big knife (yes, I have my own now)
> >
> >Yay!
> >
> >> and the steel toed stilletto heeled boots...
> >
> >Be still, my heart!
> >
> >>hmmmmm...I hope I won't have
> >> any trouble getting the luggage through the x-ray checkpoint at the
> >> airport...they can be such prudes, you know...
> >
> >Possibly lung can accompany you through the checkpoint and x-ray them
> >right back if they prove difficult.
>
> They've learned. They don't x-ray shit when lung's around, they'd just
> end up having to replace all the burnt out units.
She keeps wanting to go through the X-ray machines. She thinks they're
amusement rides. "again?" says little lung, even when they're in flames.
>
> >
> >>
> >> > (Run along now and play, little lung - this isn't for your innocent
> >> > little painted-on dot eyes)
> >>
> >> I don't know about that, John...check the cookies in the temporary internet
> >> files folder after she gets off the computer...I suspect she's been places
> >> she shouldn't be...she's growing up, you know...
> >
> >? There is only one "grown-up lung" - and that's another story.
> >
> >> and has you for a role
> >> model... ; )
> >
> >Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
> >conduct.
>
> If you like her so much why don't you marry her?
Actually, I thought we'd mutually pledge ourselves to Hecate*, and then
embark on a program of incessant ritualistic blood sacrifice and sexual
magick** designed to give us unlimited power in this world and beyond.
Or is that the same thing as marriage?
JS
* "Infernal, terrestrial and heavenly Hecate, thirsty for the blood and
terror of mortal men, Gorgo, Mormo, moon of a thousand forms"
** "Do what thou wilt is the hole of the Donut" "Love is the law, love
under pastry"
>
> -
>
> John T. Kennedy III
> No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/no_treason/
>
> The Wild Shall Ever Wild Remain!
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/itswhatitisnow.html
--
John T. Kennedy
<johns...@removethishome.net> wrote:
>> If you like her so much why don't you marry her?
>
>Actually, I thought we'd mutually pledge ourselves to Hecate*, and then
>embark on a program of incessant ritualistic blood sacrifice and sexual
>magick** designed to give us unlimited power in this world and beyond.
>
>
>Or is that the same thing as marriage?
I'd have to say it's as close as makes no difference.
>* "Infernal, terrestrial and heavenly Hecate, thirsty for the blood and
>terror of mortal men, Gorgo, Mormo, moon of a thousand forms"
>
>** "Do what thou wilt is the hole of the Donut" "Love is the law, love
>under pastry"
>--
Gandalf Grey
> In article <9hp0fc$8ch$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>
> > johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> > news:johnsabotta-2A20...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> >
> > > Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
> > > conduct.
> >
> > Except for the small detail that he screws dead bodies and has a
penchant
> > for death threats.
> >
> >
>
> Try to control your painfully obvious envy, Hanson.
I"m never envious of necrophiliacs, Slobbotta. I just try to alert the
local mortuaries when I know there's one in town. But the Seattle cops know
all about you and your Kangacide bragging, so I just stick to warning your
possible victims on the net. Saskia probably already knows that you're one
of the most evil rat-bastards to climb out of the sewers to haunt this
group.
But it never hurts to remind people of exactly what you really are.
John Sabotta wrote:
How about SHOOTING statist assholes who want more taxes in the face, and
SHOOTING them and SHOOTING them and SHOOTING them until "those
monstrosities will be EXTINCT by 2010?"
Of course, I would deplore violence, personally.
johnz~
"Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
> johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> news:johnsabotta-B100...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> > In article <9hp0fc$8ch$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> > > news:johnsabotta-2A20...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> > >
> > > > Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
> > > > conduct.
> > >
> > > Except for the small detail that he screws dead bodies and has a
> penchant
> > > for death threats.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Try to control your painfully obvious envy, Hanson.
>
> I"m never envious of necrophiliacs, Slobbotta. I just try to alert the
> local mortuaries when I know there's one in town. But the Seattle cops know
> all about you and your Kangacide bragging,
You weezils are the ones who have elevated Kangas, a would-be political
murderer and a drunk, into some kind of martyr. I'm just playing along.
> so I just stick to warning your
> possible victims on the net. Saskia probably already knows that you're one
> of the most evil rat-bastards to climb out of the sewers to haunt this
> group.
Enough about me. Let's talk about you.
Are you www.bk2k.com?
It's supposedly a Portland web design company. The site has "Copyright ©
2000 BK2K Web Design Portland, Oregon"
And you listed it as a URL for your paranoid "Bush Body Count" post.
But the "Bush Body Count" is nowhere to be found on that site. So why
did you give that URL as a source? Did you cut and paste the wrong URL,
Hanson?
And if that site really has nothing to do with you, Hanson, then I
wonder what badk...@bk2k.com thinks about you attaching his/her URL to
paranoid political screeds crossposted on USENET?
Unless badk...@bk2k.com is you.
Here's the headers for the post in question:
Path:
news.uni-mannheim.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!schlund.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-onli
ne.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!n
ews.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.
net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail
From: "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politi
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Subject: Re: The Bush Body Count
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:30:44 -0700
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Dana <dana.ra...@gci.net> wrote in message
news:3b3fe...@news1.meganetnews.com...
> http://www.etherzone.com/body.html
> Here is the latest body count that we have.
Bush Body Count
If the Dead Could Speak
This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been
called
Witnesses had they not met their untimely deaths. All these people were
associated with the name of Bush, and coincidence aside, did not live to
tell the tale.
(rest of paranoid nonsense snipped)
Any comment, Hanson? Or should I call you "bad kitty"?
JS
> But it never hurts to remind people of exactly what you really are.
>
> John Sabotta wrote:
>
> How about SHOOTING statist assholes who want more taxes in the face, and
> SHOOTING them and SHOOTING them and SHOOTING them until "those
> monstrosities will be EXTINCT by 2010?"
>
> Of course, I would deplore violence, personally.
>
>
>
>
--
Gandalf Grey
> In article <9hp6qd$dj3$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>
> > johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> > news:johnsabotta-B100...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> > > In article <9hp0fc$8ch$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> > > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:johnsabotta-2A20...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> > > >
> > > > > Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and
right
> > > > > conduct.
> > > >
> > > > Except for the small detail that he screws dead bodies and has a
> > penchant
> > > > for death threats.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try to control your painfully obvious envy, Hanson.
> >
> > I"m never envious of necrophiliacs, Slobbotta. I just try to alert the
> > local mortuaries when I know there's one in town. But the Seattle cops
know
> > all about you and your Kangacide bragging,
>
> You weezils are the ones who have elevated Kangas, a would-be political
> murderer and a drunk, into some kind of martyr. I'm just playing along.
Oh, but that's a lie, Slob. Another one of your many. Actually, it was you
who decided to continue to harp on Kangas and push yourself as being the
main inciter of suicide on the web.
>
> > so I just stick to warning your
> > possible victims on the net. Saskia probably already knows that you're
one
> > of the most evil rat-bastards to climb out of the sewers to haunt this
> > group.
>
> Enough about me. Let's talk about you.
>
> Are you www.bk2k.com?
No. I'm your worst nightmare, Suicide Boy. I'm why you barely post anymore
and why every liberal poster to this group knows that you're a
self-appointed spy and a whole-hearted supporter of murder and suicide.
>
> It's supposedly a Portland web design company. The site has "Copyright ©
> 2000 BK2K Web Design Portland, Oregon"
>
> And you listed it as a URL for your paranoid "Bush Body Count" post.
> But the "Bush Body Count" is nowhere to be found on that site.
You ARE a moron and a liar, aren't you, Slob. And I see you're as
pathetically inept at sabotage as ever.
http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/home.html
But keep trying, Seattle Boy. I enjoy watching you dance.
By the way, Slob. The bodycount url is listed on the American Poltics
Journal Website as well. And they know how much of a liar you are too.
Now don't they?
pelmark
"Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:01c0ff62$472a3440$33c079a5@nirvana...
> Over the past week there have been stories in the news about Osama Bin
> Laden's plans for striking out at the US and Israel within the next two
> weeks. But there is one thing that the stories don't address.
>
> Why is he chosing now to do this? Does he perceive Bush as a president
> with no real leadership qualities (as in one not to be feared), or does
Bin
> Laden see him as someone who would react like a "hawk" and plunge us into
> an open war? I can't help but wonder.
>
> Terrorist/guerilla tactics won the US its indendence. Will those tactics,
> used by outside forces, one day lose it for us?
Rob Robertson
>
> In article <9hp6qd$dj3$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
<etc,... snip>
> Enough about me. Let's talk about you.
>
> Are you www.bk2k.com?
>
> It's supposedly a Portland web design company. The site has "Copyright ©
> 2000 BK2K Web Design Portland, Oregon"
>
> And you listed it as a URL for your paranoid "Bush Body Count" post.
> But the "Bush Body Count" is nowhere to be found on that site. So why
> did you give that URL as a source? Did you cut and paste the wrong URL,
> Hanson?
It's still there, John;
http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html
I especially like the scary red letters used for <shudder> George W. Bush
(who is the president of the United States, and not that other guy who lost).
> And if that site really has nothing to do with you, Hanson, then I
> wonder what badk...@bk2k.com thinks about you attaching his/her URL to
> paranoid political screeds crossposted on USENET?
>
> Unless badk...@bk2k.com is you.
At the bottom of that "pablum" is this;
Copyright 2000 Weeping Gypsy
portland oregon
"Weeping Gypsy"? Gee, I guess he's feeling kinda blue.
"Weeping Gypsy", "Bad Kitty", "Gandalf Grey",... seems like "Rick Hanson"
is having an identity crisis.
_
Rob
Gandalf Grey
I guess that's why they call you Fraud Robertson.
Rob Robertson <rob...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:wx707.13903$eL5.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
Mike Schneider
johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote:
> In article <9hp0fc$8ch$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>
> > johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
> > news:johnsabotta-2A20...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> >
> > > Who better? I am a constant beacon and examplar of morality and right
> > > conduct.
> >
> > Except for the small detail that he screws dead bodies and has a penchant
> > for death threats.
> >
> >
>
> Try to control your painfully obvious envy, Hanson. Some of us (like
> you) are just not fated to be as handsome, successful, universally
> beloved and breathtakingly intelligent as I am.
>
> Live with it. Or don't.
>
> After all, the Columbia River is available for you to explore, and
> chug-a-lugging a bottle of extra-strength Liquid Plumber will soon take
> you to a place where you no longer need be tormented by my obvious
> superiority, Richard.
Do you think he'll make it as far as the men's room in the Microsoft building?
--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/American_Liberty/files/al.htm
Reply to mike1@@@usfamily.net sans two @@, or your reply won't reach me.
Wayne Mann
<rob...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Copyright 2000 Weeping Gypsy
>portland oregon
>
> "Weeping Gypsy"? Gee, I guess he's feeling kinda blue.
How come Hanson hasn't used this name on line yet? WHy is he
saving it?
Wayne Mann
<rob...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>"johnz~" <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in message
>news:johnsabotta-8988...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
>>
>> In article <9hp6qd$dj3$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
>> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>
><etc,... snip>
>
>> Enough about me. Let's talk about you.
>>
>> Are you www.bk2k.com?
>>
>> It's supposedly a Portland web design company. The site has "Copyright ©
>> 2000 BK2K Web Design Portland, Oregon"
>>
>> And you listed it as a URL for your paranoid "Bush Body Count" post.
>> But the "Bush Body Count" is nowhere to be found on that site. So why
>> did you give that URL as a source? Did you cut and paste the wrong URL,
>> Hanson?
>
> It's still there, John;
>
>http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html
>
> I especially like the scary red letters used for <shudder> George W. Bush
>(who is the president of the United States, and not that other guy who lost).
It appears they have just taken most of the names from the
Clinton Body list and moved therm to here.
However if anyone questions this list, look at this. Henry died of
OLD AGE. There was no unknown causes bullshit. It just proves again
some people will just tell any lie. Furthermore he was NOT the
Banking Chairman, in fact he was nothing, he hadn't appeared in DC for
a couple years or so. As to the impeachment claim, he tried to get
EVERY Republican president impeached since Ike. As soon as a
Republican got elected he would file an Impeachment bill. And as to
Neil Bush, the DEMOCRAT House and Democrat Senate investigated and
said he did NOTHING either immoral or illegal, yet Left Wing Liberal
LIARS continue to claim this LIE as true. ALL LIARS are Despicable!
Henry B. Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez, former Congressman from Texas, was the Chairman of the
House Banking Committee during the Reagan and Bush years. He oversaw
hearings on the S&L fiasco which nailed Neil Bush, and tried to have
both Reagan and George Bush impeached. In a speech before Congress on
July 27, 1992, Gonzalez revealed that George Bush signed a top secret
National Security Decision directive, known as NSD 26, ordering closer
ties with Saddam Hussein and Iraq. Henry Gonzalez died of
unknown causes on November 27, 2000.
Saskia
> >
> > > ...or preferably, just come on down here and we can engage in
> > > unspeakably unwholesome pleasurable activities of a mutually
> > > satisfactory nature, hint, hint.
> >
> > Does this mean you've laid in a supply of dark chocolate cashew
clusters,
> > John?
>
> An infinite number of dark chocolate cashew clusters are available, my
> dear. Enough for me to cover your reclining, trembling expectant naked
> body with, preparatory to driving you mad with forbidden, unholy
Alas, John, my dear one, I spoke too soon. The plastic is maxxed and they
won't raise my limit. So it looks like I'll be spending Independence Eve
alone and sobbing, nibbling on dark chocolate cashew clusters and thinking
of what might have been.
<long mournful sigh>
Saskia
[snip]
>
> Actually, I thought we'd mutually pledge ourselves to Hecate*, and then
> embark on a program of incessant ritualistic blood sacrifice and sexual
You're a man after my own heart, John. But I don't think the pledging to
Hecate thing is right for me just now. I've been trying to steer clear of
Bitch Goddesses lately...although the other part sounds like fun...
> ...designed to give us unlimited power in this world and beyond.
So do you want to be called King John or Emperor John? With lung at your
side, just think of the possibilties...
> Or is that the same thing as marriage?
Nope...marriage isn't this much fun.
<another long mournful sigh as she curses the downright meanspiritedness of
the no-fun people at the plastic company>
Saskia
<9hqnt9$maa$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>...
> How did you feel he reacted to the Chinese and the surveillance aircraft?
He made me very uneasy. I had the feeling at times he was trying to
provoke the Chinese, rather than work toward a mutually agreeable end to
the situation.
The other thing I didn't like was the fact that an apology was made for the
incident, and then comments were made by the powers-that-be after it was
all over which essentially said it was all a sham and we really didn't mean
it. There's a sense of honor in the oriental mindset that was shit on by
comments like that...not a good thing to do.
It reminded me of how when you were a kid and another kid had to apologize
to you for something because his mother was standing there, and the moment
she turned her back he shook his fist in your face...that's the feeling.
Like I said, he makes me uneasy.
Saskia
> >John, when there is an unlimited supply of dark chocolate cashew
clusters
> >involved, money is the last thing on my mind. Besides, that's what
plastic
> >is for.
>
> But I thought you didn't take candy from strangers.
Dark chocolate cashew clusters are in a class all their own, John, and
transcend the realm of mere mundane candy - it's like the difference
between Dom Perignon and Mad Dog 20/20.
> If you think you know *anyone* stranger than Sabotta it's clear to me
> you have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
>
> Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon you
> "met" on Usenet?
Yeah...well, I never did go for the clean-cut and dependable types... ; )
Couldn't be much worse than some of the people I used to hang around with
in wilder days...
> That's crazy talk, Saskia. Crazy talk.
>
> It can only come to tears.
Thanks for being so concerned, John. That's very nice of you.
> But by all means send me a postcard from Seattle, he has my address.
Okey dokey...but alas, it's not to be. If you're really into postcards,
though, I'll send you one from the Great Lake area. There's a great one
with a view of the Davis Besse nuclear power plant glowing in the dark and
leaking all sorts of radioactive sludge into the Lake.
Have a safe 4th.
Billy Beck
"Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>pelmark <pel...@mindspring.com> wrote ...
>
>> How did you feel he reacted to the Chinese and the surveillance aircraft?
>
>He made me very uneasy. I had the feeling at times he was trying to
>provoke the Chinese, rather than work toward a mutually agreeable end to
>the situation.
<blink> Waitaminnit... lemme get this straight...
Their guy crashes into our airplane while he's being a
straight-up dickhead... and Bush is "trying to provoke the Chinese".
You know what? You know the question that you asked me in your
last e-mail that I stiffed? Well, rubbish like this is your answer.
And I really would appreciate it you would just knock it off
before I have to agitate that anklebiter SemiSimian again by letting
your ISP know that you're not welcome in my e-mail. I'm telling you.
I've been patient with it for some time now -- enough for you to get
the picture -- but you're not getting it, and I'm really over it.
Okay? Thanks.
Billy
VRWC Fronteer
http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/free/
Saskia
<3b4252a1...@news.mindspring.com>...
> "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> >pelmark <pel...@mindspring.com> wrote ...
> >
> >> How did you feel he reacted to the Chinese and the surveillance
aircraft?
> >
> >He made me very uneasy. I had the feeling at times he was trying to
> >provoke the Chinese, rather than work toward a mutually agreeable end to
> >the situation.
>
> <blink> Waitaminnit... lemme get this straight...
>
> Their guy crashes into our airplane while he's being a
> straight-up dickhead... and Bush is "trying to provoke the Chinese".
By language and posture, Beck, is how he was provoking. Yes, that Chinese
dickhead pilot crashed into our plane. Yes they were at fault. And given
a little time and tact, the Chinese probably would have backed down and
apologized to *us*. Bush's whole demeanor throughout could have pushed us
into something a lot worse. He was doing that "ugly American" routine when
it was uncalled for. The man has to learn some diplomatic skills. I've
seen better on a 4th grade playground.
> You know what? You know the question that you asked me in your
> last e-mail that I stiffed?
You mean whether you were in a snit because I said your mother wore combat
boots?
> Well, rubbish like this is your answer.
Yeah...I guess your post is a bit of rubbish, now isn't it?
> And I really would appreciate it you would just knock it off
> before I have to agitate that anklebiter SemiSimian again by letting
> your ISP know that you're not welcome in my e-mail.
OK...what set you off this time? Here, have a dark chocolate cashew
cluster and tell me all about it. They're much better than prozac and
taste soooooo good.
> I'm telling you.
> I've been patient with it for some time now -- enough for you to get
> the picture -- but you're not getting it, and I'm really over it.
Well you sure send mixed signals, Beck. I seem to remember asking you a
question and your answer was that you were tied up at the moment with a
bunch of design work and a few other things, but you'd get back to me soon.
Sorry, honey, but I take a man at his word.
> Okay? Thanks.
OK, Beck, if that's the way you want it...that's the way you'll have it.
You're out of my address book as of this moment.
You lose.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><A2w=Owmlc9TbMUoz...@4ax.com>...
>> In <01c10259$0dd089c0$33cf79a5@nirvana> "Saskia"
>> <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>[snip]
>> >John, when there is an unlimited supply of dark chocolate cashew
>clusters
>> >involved, money is the last thing on my mind. Besides, that's what
>plastic
>> >is for.
>>
>> But I thought you didn't take candy from strangers.
>
>Dark chocolate cashew clusters are in a class all their own, John, and
>transcend the realm of mere mundane candy - it's like the difference
>between Dom Perignon and Mad Dog 20/20.
Who's Dom Perignon?
>
>> If you think you know *anyone* stranger than Sabotta it's clear to me
>> you have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
>>
>> Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon you
>> "met" on Usenet?
>
>Yeah...well, I never did go for the clean-cut and dependable types... ; )
>
>Couldn't be much worse than some of the people I used to hang around with
>in wilder days...
That's one theory.
>
>> That's crazy talk, Saskia. Crazy talk.
>>
>> It can only come to tears.
>
>Thanks for being so concerned, John. That's very nice of you.
You need to keep the real world and the online world separate. Trust
me.
>
>> But by all means send me a postcard from Seattle, he has my address.
>
>Okey dokey...but alas, it's not to be. If you're really into postcards,
I'm not...
>though, I'll send you one from the Great Lake area. There's a great one
>with a view of the Davis Besse nuclear power plant glowing in the dark and
>leaking all sorts of radioactive sludge into the Lake.
...but that would be really cool. I love nuclear power.
John T. Kennedy
396 Fall Mountain Rd.
Bristol, CT 06010
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>johnz~ <johns...@removethishome.net> wrote in article
><johnsabotta-EAFE...@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>...
>[snip]
>>
>> Actually, I thought we'd mutually pledge ourselves to Hecate*, and then
>> embark on a program of incessant ritualistic blood sacrifice and sexual
>> magick** ...
>
>You're a man after my own heart, John.
Don't jump to conclusions.
>But I don't think the pledging to
>Hecate thing is right for me just now. I've been trying to steer clear of
>Bitch Goddesses lately...although the other part sounds like fun...
>
>> ...designed to give us unlimited power in this world and beyond.
>
>So do you want to be called King John or Emperor John? With lung at your
>side, just think of the possibilties...
>
>> Or is that the same thing as marriage?
>
>Nope...marriage isn't this much fun.
People just don't put in the effort anymore.
>
><another long mournful sigh as she curses the downright meanspiritedness of
>the no-fun people at the plastic company>
>
>Saskia
-
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
These things have a way of working out for the best.
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>Have a safe 4th.
lung has a bunch of old Saturn 5s she's gonna launch all at once ...
Who Cares
> > before I have to agitate that anklebiter SemiSimian again by letting
> > your ISP know that you're not welcome in my e-mail.
>
> OK...what set you off this time?
Me. :)
> Here, have a dark chocolate cashew
> cluster and tell me all about it. They're much better than prozac and
> taste soooooo good.
For the life of me, I can't understand
why you aren't pushing marzipan
or raspberry cream.
http://www.sees.com/SP1.cfm
> Well you sure send mixed signals, Beck.
Billy is incapable of being inconsistent.
It must be YOU.
> Sorry, honey, but I take a man at his word.
Well, that explains why you're easy
prey for the Seattle Morgue
Misfit.
> OK, Beck, if that's the way you want it...that's the way you'll have it.
> You're out of my address book as of this moment.
>
> You lose.
Yup, looks like Billy has forfeited his
chance to pay off your plastic.
Hey, Sa-batta, sa-batta,
Hey, sa-batta, sa-batta,
sa-batta UP!
Lynette Warren
Saskia wrote:
> John T. Kennedy wrote:
>> Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon
>> you "met" on Usenet?
>
> with in wilder days...
You'd just stroll up to a guy you met online?! That's asking for
trouble.
> Have a safe 4th.
I will. I'll be working... at the nuclear power plant... churning out
effluents... breeding adorable exotic strains of three-eyed fish out in
the bay.
Lynette
Who Cares
news:gMA07.7099$AM.1...@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com...
>
> You'd just stroll up to a guy you met online?! That's asking for
> trouble.
Back in the old days, it was different.
From 90-93, I met several on-line
people. The population was skewed,
mostly college, high-tech and military.
The good old pre-Clinton days.
Back before I knew the media was rigged,
back when I still thought people were
basically good. Before the Mormons.
> > Have a safe 4th.
>
> I will. I'll be working... at the nuclear power plant... churning out
> effluents... breeding adorable exotic strains of three-eyed fish out in
> the bay.
You can always list it on your resume
as "biotech" work.
Saskia
<uAA07.148949$L4.18...@news1.rdc1.az.home.com>...[snip]
> > Here, have a dark chocolate cashew
> > cluster and tell me all about it. They're much better than prozac and
> > taste soooooo good.
>
>
> For the life of me, I can't understand
> why you aren't pushing marzipan
> or raspberry cream.
> http://www.sees.com/SP1.cfm
Thanks, Who, but dark chocolate is my drug of choice...
http://pamspicks.com/bulletin_quiz.htm#Quest 5
> > Well you sure send mixed signals, Beck.
>
>
> Billy is incapable of being inconsistent.
>
> It must be YOU.
Geez, Who...guess it must....
> > Sorry, honey, but I take a man at his word.
>
>
> Well, that explains why you're easy
> prey for the Seattle Morgue
> Misfit.
Yeah...guess I can be a bit naive at times.... ; )
> > OK, Beck, if that's the way you want it...that's the way you'll have
it.
> > You're out of my address book as of this moment.
> >
> > You lose.
>
>
> Yup, looks like Billy has forfeited his
> chance to pay off your plastic.
Puhleeze, Who...that's the stuff of nightmares.
> Hey, Sa-batta, sa-batta,
> Hey, sa-batta, sa-batta,
> sa-batta UP!
Cute, Who, but I don't think so.
Happy 4th.
Saskia
<gMA07.7099$AM.1...@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com>...
>
> Saskia wrote:
> > John T. Kennedy wrote:
> >> Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon
> >> you "met" on Usenet?
> >
> > Couldn't be much worse than some of the people I used to hang around
> > with in wilder days...
>
> You'd just stroll up to a guy you met online?!
Yup...as long as I was heavily armed...
> That's asking for trouble.
Yup...it sure is.
> > Have a safe 4th.
>
> I will. I'll be working... at the nuclear power plant... churning out
> effluents... breeding adorable exotic strains of three-eyed fish out in
> the bay.
Sound like fun, Lynette. Send me some pictures of the little mutants, will
you? But don't get too close when you take them...radioactivity tends to
fog the film.
Who Cares
>
> Thanks, Who, but dark chocolate is my drug of choice...
For the life of me ( don't take that
literally, Billy ) I can't figure
out why you're not
pushing the
marzipan and raspberry cream. :)
> http://pamspicks.com/bulletin_quiz.htm#Quest 5
Hokey Poke, psycho-babble for our
time. And everybody's kid has ADD, too.
> > Hey, sa-batta, sa-batta,
> > sa-batta UP!
>
> Cute, Who, but I don't think so.
I thought you were pitching against
Sabotta in the 4th?
> Happy 4th.
Cute, Woo, but I don't think so.
Saskia
[snip]
> >
> >Dark chocolate cashew clusters are in a class all their own, John, and
> >transcend the realm of mere mundane candy - it's like the difference
> >between Dom Perignon and Mad Dog 20/20.
>
> Who's Dom Perignon?
Dom Perignon - for connoisseurs
http://www.wineontheweb.com/features/domperignon/domperignon.html
Mad Dog 20/20 - for common sewers
Couldn't find a web site for them. Mad Dog 20/20 is Mogen David 20/20
- a very cheap and sickly sweet fruit wine with a high alcohol
content...along the lines of Thunderbird or Ripple...the whino's choice.
> >> If you think you know *anyone* stranger than Sabotta it's clear to me
> >> you have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
> >>
> >> Let's review: You're gonna fly out to meet some heavily armed loon you
> >> "met" on Usenet?
> >
> >Yeah...well, I never did go for the clean-cut and dependable types... ;
)
> >
> >Couldn't be much worse than some of the people I used to hang around
with
> >in wilder days...
>
> That's one theory.
And the other theory? ; )
> >> That's crazy talk, Saskia. Crazy talk.
> >>
> >> It can only come to tears.
> >
> >Thanks for being so concerned, John. That's very nice of you.
>
> You need to keep the real world and the online world separate. Trust
> me.
Don't worry, John...I do keep them separate. And on the few occasions I
don't, I go heavily armed....
> >though, I'll send you one from the Great Lake area. There's a great one
> >with a view of the Davis Besse nuclear power plant glowing in the dark
and
> >leaking all sorts of radioactive sludge into the Lake.
>
> ...but that would be really cool. I love nuclear power.
>
> John T. Kennedy
> 396 Fall Mountain Rd.
> Bristol, CT 06010
OK...watch your mailbox. But until then, check this out...
http://www.nightscribe.com/Science_Technology/Nuclear/dbnps_at_sunset.htm
BTW, they just want you to think it's sunset...that's the way it glows all
the time....
Saskia
> "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:01c10487$56e79c40$14ce79a5@nirvana...
> >
> > Thanks, Who, but dark chocolate is my drug of choice...
>
>
> For the life of me ( don't take that
> literally, Billy ) I can't figure
> out why you're not
> pushing the
> marzipan and raspberry cream. :)
>
>
> > http://pamspicks.com/bulletin_quiz.htm#Quest 5
>
>
> Hokey Poke, psycho-babble for our
> time. And everybody's kid has ADD, too.
May be psycho-babble, Who, but I still like dark chocolate....
> > > Hey, sa-batta, sa-batta,
> > > sa-batta UP!
> >
> > Cute, Who, but I don't think so.
>
>
> I thought you were pitching against
> Sabotta in the 4th?
Nope...I throw like a girl and I'm always the last to get picked for the
team...
> > Happy 4th.
>
>
> Cute, Woo, but I don't think so.
; P
John T. Kennedy
<sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>John T. Kennedy <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
><TI5COwUYnPLxl8...@4ax.com>...
>[snip]
>> >> But I thought you didn't take candy from strangers.
>> >
>> >Dark chocolate cashew clusters are in a class all their own, John, and
>> >transcend the realm of mere mundane candy - it's like the difference
>> >between Dom Perignon and Mad Dog 20/20.
>>
>> Who's Dom Perignon?
>
> Dom Perignon - for connoisseurs
> http://www.wineontheweb.com/features/domperignon/domperignon.html
>
> Mad Dog 20/20 - for common sewers
> Couldn't find a web site for them. Mad Dog 20/20 is Mogen David 20/20
>- a very cheap and sickly sweet fruit wine with a high alcohol
>content...along the lines of Thunderbird or Ripple...the whino's choice.
Oh me and The Doctor go way back, I just never met Dom.
John T. Kennedy
<vene...@home.net> wrote:
>"Lynette Warren" <ar...@nospamsurfari.net> wrote in message
>news:gMA07.7099$AM.1...@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com...
>>
>> You'd just stroll up to a guy you met online?! That's asking for
>> trouble.
>
> Back in the old days, it was different.
>
> From 90-93, I met several on-line
> people. The population was skewed,
> mostly college, high-tech and military.
>
> The good old pre-Clinton days.
>
> Back before I knew the media was rigged,
> back when I still thought people were
> basically good. Before the Mormons.
>
Before it all got a little too much for The Brow-Man.
Gandalf Grey
> Who Cares <vene...@home.net> wrote in article
> <uAA07.148949$L4.18...@news1.rdc1.az.home.com>...
> > "Saskia" <sask...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:01c10432$6f1975e0$21ce79a5@nirvana...
> [snip]
> > > Here, have a dark chocolate cashew
> > > cluster and tell me all about it. They're much better than prozac and
> > > taste soooooo good.
> >
> >
> > For the life of me, I can't understand
> > why you aren't pushing marzipan
> > or raspberry cream.
> > http://www.sees.com/SP1.cfm
>
> Thanks, Who, but dark chocolate is my drug of choice...
>
> http://pamspicks.com/bulletin_quiz.htm#Quest 5
>
> > > Well you sure send mixed signals, Beck.
> >
> >
> > Billy is incapable of being inconsistent.
> >
> > It must be YOU.
>
> Geez, Who...guess it must....
>
> > > Sorry, honey, but I take a man at his word.
> >
> >
> > Well, that explains why you're easy
> > prey for the Seattle Morgue
> > Misfit.
>
> Yeah...guess I can be a bit naive at times.... ; )
Don't trust any of the Beck groupies, Saskia. Not for a minute and not
ever. This is the Jackal den. There's not one of these guys who wouldn't
happily wreck a human life if they thought they could get away with it.
Who Cares
news:8StDO3HAVYd0ogQi2W2Va4Rnb=v...@4ax.com...
> >
> > Back before I knew the media was rigged,
> > back when I still thought people were
> > basically good. Before the Mormons.
>
> Before it all got a little too much for The Brow-Man.
The difference between you and me
is that I finally realized that my core
beliefs don't work in *this* world. :)
So, there's not much else I can do
except play out the hand as
a loser. :)
Gandalf Grey
Who Cares <vene...@home.net> wrote in message
news:efM07.150909$L4.18...@news1.rdc1.az.home.com...
You're not a loser.
>
>
>
Who Cares
news:9i05vd$j41$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > So, there's not much else I can do
> > except play out the hand as
> > a loser. :)
>
> You're not a loser.
Au contraire. For instance, one of my
coworkers is five years younger, but
managed to save up $150K so far,
plus he's actually got responsibility. :)
Previous coworker made, <gag>,
*at least* $300K of off the stock,
and he's fifteen years younger,
plus he's a manager now.
No, I missed the window. I could
probably pull an "average", i.e a
C+ out of "Life" now, but it would
take work.
It's not that bad. One of the nice
things about writing off retirement,
recognition or achievement is that
it frees your mind of many things.
Like sanity!
Heck, look at Beck!
Gandalf Grey
See what I mean? You're not a loser. Here on the group we always have a
glowing example in Bill Beck of what the word "loser" really means.
Billy Beck
"Who Cares" <vene...@home.net> wrote:
>"John T. Kennedy" <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote...
>> >
>> > Back before I knew the media was rigged,
>> > back when I still thought people were
>> > basically good. Before the Mormons.
>>
>> Before it all got a little too much for The Brow-Man.
> The difference between you and me
> is that I finally realized that my core
> beliefs don't work in *this* world. :)
>
> So, there's not much else I can do
> except play out the hand as
> a loser. :)
"Gail Wynand."
You're doing a not-too-bad impression, except for the Frank
Gorshin yank on it. See, that's what gives away the whole thing as
half-assed. You're the punk halfway across no-man's land and suddenly
realizing that there really is something worse than death. You're
going to be a very sick mess inside on the day you die, Langford.
Let's not pussyfoot around this: no one here gets out alive. Now,
real grown-ups understand this, and a big part of what goes with that
is about the introspection that necessarily jumps up on them if
they're fortunate enough to see the end coming and take one last look
around at what it was all about and worth. Maybe you'll be lucky and
some dink will come blowing through an intersection and put your
lights out before you have to deal with that.
And this is true: all that's your affair.
So's this: a lot of people watched you blow out like a bad tire.
You're history.
Gandalf Grey
Billy Beck <wj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3b439ee3...@news.mindspring.com...
>
> "Who Cares" <vene...@home.net> wrote:
>
> >"John T. Kennedy" <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote...
> >> >
> >> > Back before I knew the media was rigged,
> >> > back when I still thought people were
> >> > basically good. Before the Mormons.
> >>
> >> Before it all got a little too much for The Brow-Man.
>
> > The difference between you and me
> > is that I finally realized that my core
> > beliefs don't work in *this* world. :)
> >
> > So, there's not much else I can do
> > except play out the hand as
> > a loser. :)
>
> "Gail Wynand."
>
> You're doing a not-too-bad impression, except for the Frank
> Gorshin yank on it. See, that's what gives away the whole thing as
> half-assed. You're the punk halfway across no-man's land and suddenly
> realizing that there really is something worse than death. You're
> going to be a very sick mess inside on the day you die, Langford.
> Let's not pussyfoot around this: no one here gets out alive.
And some like you are already dead, Bill. Brain rotted and full of nothing
but bile and empty threats.
You're a burnt out paper tiger, too shitfaced with your own PR to realize
you're already history.
Who Cares
> is about the introspection that necessarily jumps up on them if
> they're fortunate enough to see the end coming and take one last look
> around at what it was all about and worth. Maybe you'll be lucky and
> some dink will come blowing through an intersection and put your
> lights out before you have to deal with that.
I don't think so, Billy. I think it's
likely that your inflexibility will
cause more woe than my fatalism.
> So's this: a lot of people watched you blow out like a bad tire.
I understand your need to believe this. :D
> You're history.
Probably. But I'm not as angry about it
as you are. :)
OTOH, judging between you and I,
I think I'm doing better. I do a technical
analysis on my life sometimes, just
like a NYSE stock.
I definitely peaked in '95-96 for total
achievement. But for solely monetary
achievement, I'm still rising and honestly,
June 1999 to June 2000 comes pretty
darn close to matching the '95-96 peak.
When I browsed your page, it surely looked
like you peaked around '92 with that tour.
That's a long time to fall, man. Ten years.
Over the long haul, I think I have the
better strategy, i.e. stand off from
800 yards, pick and choose my
shots... versus "point-n-spray"
at 75 yards. :)
John T. Kennedy
<vene...@home.net> wrote:
>"John T. Kennedy" <john_t_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:8StDO3HAVYd0ogQi2W2Va4Rnb=v...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Back before I knew the media was rigged,
>> > back when I still thought people were
>> > basically good. Before the Mormons.
>>
>> Before it all got a little too much for The Brow-Man.
>
>
> The difference between you and me
> is that I finally realized that my core
> beliefs don't work in *this* world. :)
And you're right about that. Fortunately for me we don't share the
same beliefs.
> So, there's not much else I can do
> except play out the hand as
> a loser. :)
If you realize that your beliefs don't work, why don't you believe
something else?
-
John T. Kennedy III
No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
John T. Kennedy
<ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
Oh Broward, look what's happening....
-
John T. Kennedy III
No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
John T. Kennedy
<ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>
>And some like you are already dead, Bill.
Bill Beck is someone else, dope.
-
John T. Kennedy III
No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
John T. Kennedy
<vene...@home.net> wrote:
What's your objective? Why?
-
John T. Kennedy III
No Treason - A Journal of Liberty
Billy Beck
"Who Cares" <vene...@home.net> wrote:
> When I browsed your page, it surely looked
> like you peaked around '92 with that tour.
I ought to either update that thing or just take it down. The
fact is that I just lost interest in it. It doesn't reflect the '98
Skynyrd tour (production rigger), 18 months at The Tabernacle
(lighting director/master electrician), the Peabo gig running over
three years now, and a shitload of corporate-theater stuff and various
one-offs.
You don't know what you're talking about, but I suppose that's my
fault.
Billy Beck
"Who Cares" <vene...@home.net> wrote:
> When I browsed your page, it surely looked
> like you peaked around '92 with that tour.
I ought to either update that thing or just take it down. The
fact is that I just lost interest in it. It doesn't reflect the '98
Skynyrd tour (production rigger), two tours with Peter Frampton
(lighting director, '99), 18 months at The Tabernacle (lighting
director/master electrician), the Peabo gig running over three years
now, and a shitload of corporate-theater stuff and various one-offs.
You don't know what you're talking about, but I suppose that's my
fault.