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Scott D. Erb

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Oct 8, 2001, 12:36:21 PM10/8/01
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I glanced over from my computer to the TV and checked out Fox
News' coverage. On their ticker below they talked about how
Chancellor Schroeder vowed that Bonn would stand by the US, etc.

Bonn?

Berlin is the capital of Germany. The Bundestag, Chancellory,
and most governmental institutions are in Berlin and have been
for awhile.

Apparently, this news has yet to reach the typist for the Fox
ticker.

Aozotorp

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Oct 8, 2001, 1:41:21 PM10/8/01
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Check again = Fox is not a News Reporting Organization = It is a news making
organization!

Bill Bonde

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Oct 8, 2001, 2:53:25 PM10/8/01
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OK, but explain 'capital' vs. 'capitol'. It is clear that many people
use 'capital' for all possible meanings. Is this correct or is the
capitol really in Bonn Bonn?

Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush

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Oct 8, 2001, 4:29:15 PM10/8/01
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:53:25 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
wrote:

Capital refers to the city in which the Capitol (a building) is
located. Scott had it right.

Harold

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Oct 8, 2001, 4:44:51 PM10/8/01
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:36:21 GMT, "Scott D. Erb"
<scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


Hi Scoot,

re your question, "Someone tell Fox where Germany's capital is"

Most of it is probably in various banks. Some is likely in US bonds
and equities.

Regards, Harold
----
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we do not give ourselves a chance of success unless we try to
understand their mentality, which is not always the same as our
own, and it really is astonishing to contemplate how the identically
same facts are regarded from two different angles."
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Jeffrey Davis

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Oct 8, 2001, 4:48:20 PM10/8/01
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Harold wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:36:21 GMT, "Scott D. Erb"
> <scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Scoot,
>
> re your question, "Someone tell Fox where Germany's capital is"
>
> Most of it is probably in various banks. Some is likely in US bonds
> and equities.

And we all know the reason for Ireland's recent financial turnaround.

--
Jeffrey Davis <res0...@verizon.net> E Pluribus unum


Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush

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Oct 8, 2001, 5:07:57 PM10/8/01
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:44:51 -0500, Harold
<haroldb...@delete.yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:36:21 GMT, "Scott D. Erb"
><scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Scoot,
>
>re your question, "Someone tell Fox where Germany's capital is"
>
>Most of it is probably in various banks. Some is likely in US bonds
>and equities.
>
>Regards, Harold

Oh, look, another right wing moron who just made an utter fool of
himself with a grammar flame.

Scott D. Erb

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Oct 8, 2001, 7:58:46 PM10/8/01
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I know, but they were having so much fun I figured I'd let them
enjoy their misguided attempted spell flame :)

Bill Bonde

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Oct 8, 2001, 10:26:56 PM10/8/01
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I asked you a question Scott. If you take a question and pretend that it
is a spelling flame, then you are the person with the problem. If
'capitol' is only proper for the building itself, then there are a lot
of signs that are wrong. Here's an example of a lake called 'Capitol
Lake' in the capital city of Washington state, USA:
http://www.ga.wa.gov/lake/CapitolLake.htm

Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore

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Oct 8, 2001, 11:01:52 PM10/8/01
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 02:26:56 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
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Bill, you live in Washington State, do you not?

We don't expect much from Washington state any more.

Not dead, in jail or a slave? Thank a liberal!

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Fox Americana

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Oct 8, 2001, 11:53:49 PM10/8/01
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Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com> wrote in message news:<3BC1F625...@mail.com>...
I suppose he'll be complaining when someone says "Kleenex" next. :)

Some people just like to complain.

Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore

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Oct 9, 2001, 12:46:13 AM10/9/01
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Ask him about all those sweaty tourists at the North pole.

Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 2:41:19 AM10/9/01
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I'm sure I can find other examples. Is this just because Washington has
stupid people in it naming stuff?

Richard

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Oct 9, 2001, 4:51:22 AM10/9/01
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"Bill Bonde" <stderr_...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:3BC26070...@mail.com...

What a lame reply. Besides, perhaps "Capitol Lake" actually is in reference
to the Washington State Capitol due to it's location or other reference. In
that case it would be legitimate. Besides, can you always rely on street
sign planners to get it right? In Fresno, the city misspelled one of our
presidents (I forgot which one - I think it was Coolege). When they caught
it much later and were about to correct it, the citizens raised a howl
because by then they were used to it the way it was. So, as far as I know,
that street sign still is misspelled to this day.

You really try pretty hard to make yourself look like a fool Billy. How did
you find your excuse to say it wasn't a flame after you got caught? A Google
search?

<requote>


"OK, but explain 'capital' vs. 'capitol'. It is clear that many people
use 'capital' for all possible meanings. Is this correct or is the
capitol really in Bonn Bonn?"

---Billy Bonde--

I seem to remember that Scott said the capital of Germany is Berlin. Your
knee jerk eagerness to defend Faux is transparent and got you caught with
your skivvies soiled..

Looks like a flame to me, since it was what you attempted as a challenge to
Scott's accuracy. If it talks like a flame, looks like a flame, and waddles
like a flame; it must be a flame. <quack><quack><quack>

These Right Wingers can be pretty funny sometimes.
--
--Richard

Whether one is a Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Atheist at birth was determined
by the navigation of a stork.

--
--Richard

Whether one is a Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Atheist at birth was determined
by the navigation of a stork.


Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 5:08:03 AM10/9/01
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A lame reply to a question that was responded to with a flame?


> Besides, perhaps "Capitol Lake" actually is in reference
> to the Washington State Capitol due to it's location or other reference.
>

Geez, really? As opposed to being a reference to the capital of
Washington state itself?


> In
> that case it would be legitimate.
>

That's what I'm asking about. Is there some rule here. I know what the
dictionary says but now you are confusing things with the idea that it
is legit.


> Besides, can you always rely on street
> sign planners to get it right? In Fresno, the city misspelled one of our
> presidents (I forgot which one - I think it was Coolege). When they caught
> it much later and were about to correct it, the citizens raised a howl
> because by then they were used to it the way it was. So, as far as I know,
> that street sign still is misspelled to this day.
>
> You really try pretty hard to make yourself look like a fool Billy. How did
> you find your excuse to say it wasn't a flame after you got caught? A Google
> search?
>

What are you talking about? Here's what he said and what I said:

>> Apparently, this news has yet to reach the typist for the Fox
>> ticker.
>>
>OK, but explain 'capital' vs. 'capitol'. It is clear that many people
>use 'capital' for all possible meanings. Is this correct or is the
>capitol really in Bonn Bonn?
>

Now, where is the flame on Erb? There isn't one. Erb's right about the
capital of Germany having been moved. There's nothing to flame. I asked
about the spelling because I've noted it and just wondered what he
thought. You know, like 'Capitol Lake'. And here's Capitol Way:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=333+CAPITOL+WAY+N&csz=OLYMPIA+WA+98501&Get%A0Map=Get+Map

So I think it's a legitimate question.

> <requote>
> "OK, but explain 'capital' vs. 'capitol'. It is clear that many people
> use 'capital' for all possible meanings. Is this correct or is the
> capitol really in Bonn Bonn?"
> ---Billy Bonde--
>
> I seem to remember that Scott said the capital of Germany is Berlin. Your
> knee jerk eagerness to defend Faux is transparent and got you caught with
> your skivvies soiled..
>

I wasn't defending Fox News. I was asking Scott a question. It's this
sort of attitude from Liberals that makes discussion around here near
impossible.


> Looks like a flame to me, since it was what you attempted as a challenge to
> Scott's accuracy.
>

On what? He's right about the capital being in Berlin. I never
questioned anything he said. I asked him a question.

> If it talks like a flame, looks like a flame, and waddles
> like a flame; it must be a flame. <quack><quack><quack>
>
> These Right Wingers can be pretty funny sometimes.
>

You, OTOH, are just a nutball.

Scott D. Erb

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Oct 9, 2001, 7:40:05 AM10/9/01
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This is all amusing. I finally e-mailed Fox last night after I
checked their station again and found "Bonn" still on the
ticker. Shortly thereafter they stopped, but it could just be
because that piece had gotten old by that time.

Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:05:08 AM10/9/01
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 06:41:19 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
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Well, here's Washington State.

And here's you.

We're one for one.

Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 1:25:59 PM10/9/01
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There are eight million people in Washington state. Are they all stupid?

Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 1:27:41 PM10/9/01
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"Scott D. Erb" wrote:
>
> This is all amusing. I finally e-mailed Fox last night after I
> checked their station again and found "Bonn" still on the
> ticker.
>

I never got the LA Times to get the Australian Prime Minister's name
right. They called him something like John Herbert five times in one
editorial. They just left it like that up on their website. So it
happens a lot.

> Shortly thereafter they stopped, but it could just be
> because that piece had gotten old by that time.
>

Probably.

Scott D. Erb

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Oct 9, 2001, 1:42:21 PM10/9/01
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Bill Bonde wrote:
>
> "Scott D. Erb" wrote:
> >
> > This is all amusing. I finally e-mailed Fox last night after I
> > checked their station again and found "Bonn" still on the
> > ticker.
> >
> I never got the LA Times to get the Australian Prime Minister's name
> right. They called him something like John Herbert five times in one
> editorial. They just left it like that up on their website. So it
> happens a lot.
>
> > Shortly thereafter they stopped, but it could just be
> > because that piece had gotten old by that time.
> >
> Probably.

Having lived in Bonn awhile, I sort of liked seeing it listed
once again as the capital, even if it was misplaced. I was there
in 1991-92, just after the decision to move to Berlin had been
made, and the Bonners were rather upset. They would have weekly
Thursday protests at the main square which were rather
interesting (though as time went on, less so). One bakery under
the train station had their own protest. A pastry with a jelly
like filling, popular in Berlin, is called "Berliner" in most of
Germany (except, ironically, Berlin, where I believe it is
Krapfen). The Bonn bakery crossed out "Berliner" on the sign and
put in "Bonner."

They also, by the way, have a cookie like pastry called
"Amerikaner."

tagueb...@wfu.edu

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Oct 9, 2001, 9:28:21 AM10/9/01
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In article <3BC3380...@worldnet.att.net>, "Scott D. Erb"
<scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


[snip]

A pastry with a jelly
> like filling, popular in Berlin, is called "Berliner"

Or to quote JFK: "I am a jelly donut!"

--
My 2 electrons,

Brian

Remove "REMOVE" to reply

SNUMBER6

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Oct 9, 2001, 2:39:37 PM10/9/01
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>From: tagueb...@wfu.edu

>Or to quote JFK: "I am a jelly donut!"

Ich bin ein Berliner ...

Ich bin Berliner ...

What a difference an ein makes ...


In the Village ....
I am not a number ... I am a free man !!!!

Scott D. Erb

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Oct 9, 2001, 3:31:29 PM10/9/01
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tagueb...@wfu.edu wrote:
>
> In article <3BC3380...@worldnet.att.net>, "Scott D. Erb"
> <scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> A pastry with a jelly
> > like filling, popular in Berlin, is called "Berliner"
>
> Or to quote JFK: "I am a jelly donut!"

Actually, contrary to myth, JFK had it right! Grammatically if
you are expressing solidarity with a people you have to use the
indefinite article "ein" and not simply say Ich bin Berliner
(which is how natives would state it). He was given help on the
speech and particular that phrase by Willy Brandt's German staff
(Brandt was mayor of West Berlin at the time). A "Berliner" is
either a citizen of Berlin, or can be the jelly pastry. But
Kennedy worded his phrase properly.

Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush

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Oct 9, 2001, 3:24:09 PM10/9/01
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:25:59 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
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Nope, but I figure that just by yourself you pull down the average by
a measurable amount.

tagueb...@wfu.edu

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Oct 9, 2001, 10:58:46 AM10/9/01
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In article <3BC35198...@worldnet.att.net>, "Scott D. Erb"
<scot...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Really!? Well, there goes a great story.

I seem to recall laughter behind JFK when he said this; that seemed to
support the idea he was saying, "I am a jelly donunt."

Thanks for setting me straight.

Bill Bonde

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This claim of yours doesn't respond to the examples I've found of
'capitol' this and 'capitol' that. In the past, I've discussed this with
people and they've claimed that these other uses are wrong. I had just
asked Erb what he thought about it.

Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 4:14:18 PM10/9/01
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FYI, Erb, bringing this story up is a troll just like saying that Hitler
was a socialist. It works every time.

colleen

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Oct 9, 2001, 5:32:24 PM10/9/01
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Distribution:

Scott D. Erb (scot...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: This is all amusing. I finally e-mailed Fox last night after I
: checked their station again and found "Bonn" still on the

: ticker. Shortly thereafter they stopped, but it could just be


: because that piece had gotten old by that time.

It's understandable. Prior to the 11th Fox limited their 'world' news
reporting to 60 seconds of clips worthy of The National Enquirer. Hey,
they're Americans and republicans, they don't have to know anything about
those other countries and neither do their viewers. They're all pinko
commies, anyway.

colleen

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Distribution:

Bill Bonde (stderr_...@mail.com) wrote:

: There are eight million people in Washington state. Are they all stupid?


No but the washington state republicans certainly are. How else to explain
Pam Roach, Kelly Joel Hinton and, of course, you.

Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush

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Oct 9, 2001, 6:56:32 PM10/9/01
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:11:57 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
wrote:

Well, you might want to try checking a dictionary. Although checking
with Scott, who is literate, is also a good idea.

So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
capitol building is in Berlin.

Bill Bonde

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Oct 9, 2001, 7:23:25 PM10/9/01
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It's not a dictionary thing. I've provided many examples of 'capitol'
being used outside what the dictionary says. I just asked for his
opinion.

> So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> capitol building is in Berlin.
>

I know where the capital of Germany was and is. Fox apparently
misremembered.

Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore

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On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 23:23:25 GMT, Bill Bonde <stderr_...@mail.com>
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Uh huh. OK. Not a dictionary thing. Whatever you say, Bill.


>
>
>> So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
>> capitol building is in Berlin.
>>
>I know where the capital of Germany was and is. Fox apparently
>misremembered.

Well, if we can have a president who can't remember what countries lie
to the north of America, I guess we can have an international news
service that promises definive coverage that can't remember where the
capital of Germany is.

Lucky for us that neither of them were around in 1942, eh?

Bill Bonde

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Oct 10, 2001, 2:46:22 AM10/10/01
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So when you want it to not be a dictionary thing, it isn't a dictionary
thing but otherwise if you want it to be one, it is?


> >
> >> So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> >> capitol building is in Berlin.
> >>
> >I know where the capital of Germany was and is. Fox apparently
> >misremembered.
>
> Well, if we can have a president who can't remember what countries lie
> to the north of America,
>

Countries don't lie; People lie. He couldn't remember which countries
lie to the North of America.

> I guess we can have an international news
> service that promises definive coverage that can't remember where the
> capital of Germany is.
>

I'm sure that people will make mistakes all the time.

chris.holt

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Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush wrote:

> So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> capitol building is in Berlin.

Most countries don't have a capitol building (do any other
than the US?). So even though Berlin is the capital, it's
not obvious that there is a capitol building there. [I've
only been to a few cities in Germany, not including Berlin,
so I don't know.]

--

chris...@ncl.ac.uk http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/~chris.holt/

Bill Bonde

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"chris.holt" wrote:
>
> Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush wrote:
>
> > So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> > capitol building is in Berlin.
>
> Most countries don't have a capitol building (do any other
> than the US?). So even though Berlin is the capital, it's
> not obvious that there is a capitol building there. [I've
> only been to a few cities in Germany, not including Berlin,
> so I don't know.]
>

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=capitol
cap·i·tol (kp-tl)
n.
A building or complex of buildings in which a state legislature meets.
Capitol The building in Washington, D.C., where the Congress of the
United States meets.
#end quote

They must have a meeting place.

Scott D. Erb

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"chris.holt" wrote:

> Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush wrote:
>
> > So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> > capitol building is in Berlin.
>
> Most countries don't have a capitol building (do any other
> than the US?). So even though Berlin is the capital, it's
> not obvious that there is a capitol building there. [I've
> only been to a few cities in Germany, not including Berlin,
> so I don't know.]

The idea of a capitol building is foreign to most Europeans. The old
Reichstag building is where the parliament (now called the Bundestag)
meets, and I suppose that would be the closest to what an American would
call a capitol. The term for capital city is "Hauptstadt" which means
"main city."

Bill Bonde

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Oct 10, 2001, 5:07:33 PM10/10/01
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Now you see why the Bonners were so pissed about moving it to Berlin.

chris.holt

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Oct 10, 2001, 6:46:56 PM10/10/01
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Does that mean 'state' as in one of the United States, or
'state' as in governmental structure? That's the trouble
with overloaded words.

> They must have a meeting place.

Oh sure; we all know what was meant. I was just being
irritatingly pedantic :-), because I've never heard of
any building referred to as a capitol outside the US,
either in English-speaking countries or in translations
from other languages. Have you?

--

chris...@ncl.ac.uk http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/~chris.holt/

Richard

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"Bill Bonde" <stderr_...@mail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "chris.holt" wrote:
> >
> > Zepp, No Weasels in the Bush wrote:
> >
> > > So are we clear now? Bonn is not the capital of Germany, because the
> > > capitol building is in Berlin.
> >
> > Most countries don't have a capitol building (do any other
> > than the US?). So even though Berlin is the capital, it's
> > not obvious that there is a capitol building there. [I've
> > only been to a few cities in Germany, not including Berlin,
> > so I don't know.]
> >
> http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=capitol
> cap搏暗ol (kp-tl)

> n.
> A building or complex of buildings in which a state legislature meets.
> Capitol The building in Washington, D.C., where the Congress of the
> United States meets.
> #end quote
>
> They must have a meeting place.


Billy, are you still spell flaming that dead horse? I thought this was
settled days ago.

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