Where is UP state?
p4o2
Patrick Eagan
> Is Yonkers upstate? or do you need to go to Peekskill or Albany?
Every time that I have seen this question, the answers vary all over
the board. Most folks view the term 'up-state' as a geographic term
when in fact it was (and is) a political term used by political writers.
The 'down-state' area (NYC and environs) is Democratic and the
'up-state' area (all the rest) is Republican. Is Yonkers upstate? I
don't know but I would say it was 'up-state.'
Patrick
p4o2
wrote:
I do not think "western NY" is up state.
Jim Elbrecht
>p4o2 wrote:
>> Is Yonkers upstate? or do you need to go to Peekskill or Albany?
>
> Every time that I have seen this question, the answers vary all over
>the board.
Yep-- It's all in your point of view. My aunt from Staten island
went upstate to Yonkers to visit my grandparents. They in turn
went upstate to Poughkeepsie to meet us 1/2 way from Schenectady- as
anything beyond Poughkeepsie was just plain wilderness as far as my
grandmother was concerned.
I use it to refer to anything north of Poughkeepsie- though I'll use
Adirondacks- or 'western NY' if I'm talking to someone who might see
the distinction.
>Most folks view the term 'up-state' as a geographic term
>when in fact it was (and is) a political term used by political writers.
Cite? I've never heard that claim before and I've lived here for
almost 60 yrs.
> The 'down-state' area (NYC and environs) is Democratic and the
>'up-state' area (all the rest) is Republican. Is Yonkers upstate? I
>don't know but I would say it was 'up-state.'
Live is never that simple- and NY politics is the least simple of all.
first off, you can't just draw the line somewhere as the last
presidential election made so clear. Here's the map of that election
by county-
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&year=2004&fips=36
[The west of the state, the extreme north and the capital district are
all strongly democrat-- and is that Ulster county in the Catskills
that's red?]
Then there's the difference between a Richmond county Republican and a
Warren county one--- or a Clinton County Democrat compared to a
Brooklyn one.
Jim
Srgnt Billko
"Jim Elbrecht" <elbr...@email.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick Eagan <Patric...@SPAMbellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>p4o2 wrote:
>>> Is Yonkers upstate? or do you need to go to Peekskill or Albany?
>>
>> Every time that I have seen this question, the answers vary all over
>>the board.
>
> Yep-- It's all in your point of view. My aunt from Staten island
> went upstate to Yonkers to visit my grandparents. They in turn
> went upstate to Poughkeepsie to meet us 1/2 way from Schenectady- as
> anything beyond Poughkeepsie was just plain wilderness as far as my
> grandmother was concerned.
>
> I use it to refer to anything north of Poughkeepsie- though I'll use
> Adirondacks- or 'western NY' if I'm talking to someone who might see
> the distinction.
>
My Yonkers friends (who never admit to Yonkers - they say they are from
Westchester) - say anything above the Tappan Zee bridge is "upstate". The
guy who owns the property next to mine in the Kingston - Poughkeepsie area,
lives in Rockland Co. He doesn't act like an "upstater" to me. His
attitude is much like metro NYC.
jackthetab
people area. It was amusing in college.
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Bill in Schenectady
"Patrick Eagan" <Patric...@SPAMbellsouth.net> wrote in message
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would dispute the comment that all the rest is Republican.
Upstate and downstate is really a relative term depending on where you are.
My own definition is that downstate is NYC, LI and all areas in which a
substantial population commutes to NYC. That would take in most of the
Metro North service area.
Scaly Lizard
wrote:
>Its funny, people from NYC refer to Albany and the area north as "mountain"
>people area. It was amusing in college.
I refer to Albany residents as "circus folk".
SL