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May 9, 2008, 11:42:19 PM5/9/08
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Don

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May 10, 2008, 10:00:43 AM5/10/08
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Great command of the facts, eh?

"H" wrote ...
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws>


Danbob

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May 10, 2008, 12:21:31 PM5/10/08
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Hey Harmon,

For those of us who are in the non-elite and have Ultra Low Speed Dial
Up Connections, I'm guessing this is a clip from last night's news
with the Big Bama talking about how he'd been to 57 states?

H

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May 11, 2008, 1:23:22 AM5/11/08
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Don <lur...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great command of the facts, eh?

It's funny. But he was probably trying to say something else, like 57
"stops" & it just came out wrong. He's probably pretty punch drunk after
so much campaigning.

H

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May 11, 2008, 1:23:21 AM5/11/08
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Danbob <calte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> For those of us who are in the non-elite and have Ultra Low Speed Dial
> Up Connections, I'm guessing this is a clip from last night's news
> with the Big Bama talking about how he'd been to 57 states?

Yep. You can see the Official 57 States Flag Pin at

<http://www.suitablyflip.com/suitably_flip/2008/05/obama-campaign.html>

although you can't buy one (yet?)

The seven previously unknown states are said to be:

51. Puerto Rico
52. Guam
53. Northern Mariana
54. American Samoa
55. St. Croix
56. St. Thomas
57. St. John

Personally, I think we should offer Cuba the chance to become a state -
that would probably entice the Cubans to get rid of the Castros, which
is more than the "embargo" has managed...

Gene

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May 11, 2008, 8:23:18 AM5/11/08
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On May 11, 1:23 am, Har...@see-my-sig.com (H) wrote:

This should make for a fine attack. Of course what the Dems should do
is give McCain one of the computer "fill in the state" games and see
how he does. If the first state to position is something like
Colorado, Kansas, or Nebraska, even a brat can be off hundreds of
miles. I'll bet Bush's attempt would be something else, but why
bother?
Gene

donna....@gmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 10:59:49 AM5/12/08
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Unless, of course, you have lived in there. I, for one, have lived in
Kansas and Nebraska (AF Bases) and know exactly where they are.

Donna

Danbob

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May 12, 2008, 12:28:45 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 7:59 am, "donna.kne...@gmail.com" <donna.kne...@gmail.com>
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Hi Donna,

Nice to see you here! How have you been?

I agree with you. I know where every damned state in the union is
located and how to spell their names. In the old days, they even
wanted you to know all of the state capitols.

I had a conversation with a recent high school graduate who was under
the impression that Quebec was in the Middle East. I suspect the
standards have declined.

donna....@gmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 3:25:39 PM5/12/08
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Hi Dan,

Having ancestors from Quebec, I also know exactly where to put that
Province. Plan to be in Quebec City this summer for a family reunion
and the 400th anniversary of the City.

I have been surviving chemotherapy. It is amazing how much poison they
can put into your body, and life continues somewhat normally.
Peritoneal cancer (very rare and very hard to detect). I was lucky to
have it found last year, and am handling the treatments pretty well. A
lot depends on attitude, and I am essentially an optimist. My husband,
Ron, calls me an "inveterate hummer" because I am always humming. I
think that means I am a happy person.

Donna

Pensacola Beachcomber

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May 12, 2008, 3:41:37 PM5/12/08
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Donna,
If you are in Quebec City around the 14th you will be able to see the
airshow. Both the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds will fly. They can't
fly at the same airshow in the states because of the regulations governing
recruiting funds but they can be together overseas. Also you will get to
see the Snowbirds, the Red Arrows, the Canadian CF-18 Team, Dan Buchanan,
Les Shockley and other performers.
You sound happy and optimistic so do yourself one better and go watch
those intrepid aviators celebrate the 400eme aniversaire, Tom


Thunderbirds Arrows and maybe
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Gene

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May 12, 2008, 3:56:58 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 3:41 pm, "Pensacola Beachcomber" <pensacola-

beachcom...@NOSPAMNEVERcox.net> wrote:
> Donna,
>     If you are in Quebec City around the 14th you will be able to see the
> airshow.  Both the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds will fly.  They can't
> fly at the same airshow in the states because of the regulations governing
> recruiting funds but they can be together overseas.  Also you will get to
> see the Snowbirds, the Red Arrows, the Canadian CF-18 Team, Dan Buchanan,
> Les Shockley and other performers.
>     You sound happy and optimistic so do yourself one better and go watch
> those intrepid aviators celebrate the 400eme aniversaire, Tom
>
> Thunderbirds  Arrows and maybe<donna.kne...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:0b52926b-1222-4155...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi Dan,
>
> > Having ancestors from Quebec, I also know exactly where to put that
> > Province. Plan to be in Quebec City this summer for a family reunion
> > and the 400th anniversary of the City.
>
> > I have been surviving chemotherapy. It is amazing how much poison they
> > can put into your body, and life continues somewhat normally.
> > Peritoneal cancer (very rare and very hard to detect). I was lucky to
> > have it found last year, and am handling the treatments pretty well. A
> > lot depends on attitude, and I am essentially an optimist. My husband,
> > Ron, calls me an "inveterate hummer" because I am always humming. I
> > think that means I am a happy person.
>
> > Donna
>
> >> Hi Donna,
>
> >> Nice to see you here!  How have you been?
>
> >> I agree with you.  I know where every damned state in the union is
> >> located and how to spell their names.  In the old days, they even
> >> wanted you to know all of the state capitols.
>
> >> I had a conversation with a recent high school graduate who was under
> >> the impression that Quebec was in the Middle East.  I suspect the
> >> standards have declined.

Donna, I'm glad that things are going well with you. Keep us in
touch, will you?

As to those specific states - most of the "place the states" games
I've played Give you an outline of the continental US and then Alaska
and Hawaii. You are scored by how close you locate each state. Some
are obviously quite easy, and even Montana and North Dakota aren't too
difficult to get close. But if you get one of those central western
states as the first one, even if you know where it goes in relation to
the others, getting it within a few miles of the correct location is
not necessarily easy. Later on, of course, it's easy.
Many years ago now, the only year I taught Junior English, I began the
year asking them to name the 50 states. Almost nobody could. A
surprising number thought Philadelphia is a state.
Gene

Danbob

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May 12, 2008, 6:18:23 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 12:25 pm, "donna.kne...@gmail.com" <donna.kne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Having ancestors from Quebec, I also know exactly where to put that
> Province. Plan to be in Quebec City this summer for a family reunion
> and the 400th anniversary of the City.
>
> I have been surviving chemotherapy. It is amazing how much poison they
> can put into your body, and life continues somewhat normally.
> Peritoneal cancer (very rare and very hard to detect). I was lucky to
> have it found last year, and am handling the treatments pretty well. A
> lot depends on attitude, and I am essentially an optimist. My husband,
> Ron, calls me an "inveterate hummer" because I am always humming. I
> think that means I am a happy person.
>
> Donna
>
>Hi Donna,

So sorry that you're having to go through that. We've dealt with
Carol's bladder cancer and my sister's breast cancer over the last few
years, and I know it's scary. Thank god they caught it. I will
definitely light a candle for you. There's also a really wonderful
book called, "Boundless Healing, Meditation Exercises to Enlighten the
Mind and Heal the Body," by a guy named Tulkup Thondup. He's a
Tibetan monk, but it's not religion specific. Got some wonderful
insight in it. I don't know if you can get it on amazon, but the have
it at tibetantreasures.com.

So you're going to the middle east for your holiday?

Danbob

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May 12, 2008, 6:19:07 PM5/12/08
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So where do we find this wonderful game, Gene?

Don

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May 12, 2008, 7:11:01 PM5/12/08
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The power of a positive attitude can not be overestimated. My dad was
diagnosed with prostate cancer and told he had just a few years to live. He
just kept going. Did all the treatments with a smile. Used to cheer up
everyone in the hospital during his visits. The nurses loved him. The
doctors and nurses all agreed that the reason he survived for 17 years,
rather the the 2 or 3 origionally predicted, was because he was so cheerful.

--
.
Donna wrote ...

Gene

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May 12, 2008, 8:30:53 PM5/12/08
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http://www.yourchildlearns.com/map-puzzles.htm
Try this for a start. Go to "without borders." If you aren't almost
perfect the state vanishes and then comes back later. Search "map
puzzles,." hopefully through Good Search set to AOSHS or Brats Without
Borders.
Gene

Gene

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May 13, 2008, 8:23:04 AM5/13/08
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http://games.toast.net/independence/
This is fun, too. I got 27 correct.
Gene

donna....@gmail.com

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May 13, 2008, 11:26:39 AM5/13/08
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I agree with you, Don. My father-in-law was diagnosed with non-
Hodgkins lymphoma and, after radiation and chemo, lived another twenty
years! He was a lovely person and my role model in this process.

Donna

On May 12, 7:11 pm, "Don" <lur...@yahoo.com> wrote:

donna....@gmail.com

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May 13, 2008, 11:28:10 AM5/13/08
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>
> http://games.toast.net/independence/
> This is fun, too. I got 27 correct.
> Gene

This is fun. I also got 27 correct. Hooray for a good education!

donna....@gmail.com

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May 13, 2008, 11:36:40 AM5/13/08
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On May 12, 3:56 pm, Gene <steamg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Many years ago now, the only year I taught Junior English, I began the
> year asking them to name the 50 states. Almost nobody could. A
> surprising number thought Philadelphia is a state.
> Gene

My daughter (a military brat) is an ESL teacher in elementary school.
Recently she was in a classroom when the teacher told the students
that there are 52 states. She quietly told the teacher that she was
incorrect, but the teacher wouldn't believe her. Sonja went to the
internet to print out the correct info for the teacher. That story
just blows my mind when I think about it.

Donna


Gene

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May 13, 2008, 11:54:39 AM5/13/08
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On May 13, 11:36 am, "donna.kne...@gmail.com" <donna.kne...@gmail.com>
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Solution: Name them.
Gene

Gary

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May 13, 2008, 1:43:29 PM5/13/08
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Actually there are only 46 states. PA, MA, KY and VA are all technically
Commonwealths according to their constitution<g>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_%28United_States%29
gg

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valeriapalmer

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May 13, 2008, 8:45:51 PM5/13/08
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Gene, is it possible for you to discuss anything without insulting my
father's fifth cousin Barbara's son? And for that matter, anyone who
can get into Harvard Business is no fool and no idiot either.

H

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May 13, 2008, 9:24:44 PM5/13/08
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valeriapalmer <valeri...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Gene, is it possible for you to discuss anything without insulting my
> father's fifth cousin Barbara's son?

Hmm. So W is your sixth cousin?

valeriapalmer

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May 13, 2008, 10:33:46 PM5/13/08
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H wrote:
> valeriapalmer <valeri...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Gene, is it possible for you to discuss anything without insulting my
>> father's fifth cousin Barbara's son?
>
> Hmm. So W is your sixth cousin?

Once removed, yes

H

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May 13, 2008, 11:30:22 PM5/13/08
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How do you figure "once removed?" It appears to me that you are in the
same generation with W so no "removed" comes into play.

If your father & Barbara are in the same generation, then W would be
your father's 5th cousin, once removed, and Barbara would be your 5th
cousin, once removed, since there's a generational divide.

But maybe I don't grasp the system...

H.


valeriapalmer <valeri...@earthlink.net> wrote:

valeriapalmer

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May 14, 2008, 7:54:19 AM5/14/08
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Dad is a once removed. The Pierce's had an extra generation that the
Richardson's didn't

Frank

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May 14, 2008, 9:14:13 AM5/14/08
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Here is a link to an analysis of Bush and Kerry's probable IQ. GW
comes off a little better than Kerry. Of course we now know Bush had a
better grade point average than kerry, although neither of them were
exactly barn-burners. Of course getting a degree from Harvard and Yale
is nothing to laugh at.

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm

Cheers,
Frank

H

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May 15, 2008, 12:24:11 AM5/15/08
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Frank <N0...@arrl.net> wrote:

> Of course getting a degree from Harvard and Yale
> is nothing to laugh at.

Hah! I laugh at both of them! My degree is from the University of
Chicago. My GPA was higher. My wife is prettier.

So clearly, I am not stupid enough to be, or want to be, President.

H

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May 15, 2008, 12:24:11 AM5/15/08
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valeriapalmer <valeri...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Dad is a once removed. The Pierce's had an extra generation that the
> Richardson's didn't

Hmm. So you will be his sixth cousin, once or twice removed...or at
least, asked to leave quietly...

valeriapalmer

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May 15, 2008, 9:57:21 PM5/15/08
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Actually, a decade of so ago, I literally bumped into Barbara at Saks
Salon Z here in Atlanta. I excused myself and said "It's lovely to meet
a cousin". She did a doubletake and I gave the name of our common
ancestor and she laughed and we both said in one breath - "Those
Richardsons married EVERYONE". And laughed and she shook my hand. I
asked her about a certain clock in the White House and gave her my card
and three weeks later I got an upclose picture of a clock that's in one
of the parlors made by an ancestral type on the other side of my family.
It's in a room that wasn't on the standard tour even 20 years ago, so
in the three times I have visited the President's House I have never
gotten to see it.

wrote:

Rick Terry

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May 19, 2008, 9:20:30 PM5/19/08
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On May 11, 12:23 am, Har...@see-my-sig.com (H) wrote:
> Danbob <caltex1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For those of us who are in the non-elite and have Ultra Low Speed Dial
> > Up Connections, I'm guessing this is a clip from last night's news
> > with the Big Bama talking about how he'd been to 57 states?
>
> Yep. You can see the Official 57 States Flag Pin at
>
> <http://www.suitablyflip.com/suitably_flip/2008/05/obama-campaign.html>
>
> although you can't buy one (yet?)
>
> The seven previously unknown states are said to be:
>
> 51. Puerto Rico
> 52. Guam
> 53. Northern Mariana
> 54. American Samoa
> 55. St. Croix
> 56. St. Thomas
> 57. St. John
>
> Personally, I think we should offer Cuba the chance to become a state -
> that would probably entice the Cubans to get rid of the Castros, which
> is more than the "embargo" has managed...
> --
> Harmon is "awol at military-brats.com"

I think you've got it right with Cuba. We would probably have to
guarantee their superior (a matter of some debate) health care system
though.

Rick Terry

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May 19, 2008, 9:21:28 PM5/19/08
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On May 12, 9:59 am, "donna.kne...@gmail.com" <donna.kne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

And it's easy to tell where one stops and the other begins: Read the
signs...

H

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May 20, 2008, 12:27:01 AM5/20/08
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Rick Terry <rickd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I think you've got it right with Cuba. We would probably have to
> guarantee their superior (a matter of some debate) health care system
> though.

Personally, I expect that when the Cuban dictatorship finally falls, we
are going to find out that their "superior" health system is a Potemkin
village.

Jill

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May 24, 2008, 2:45:59 PM5/24/08
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Donna, having survived the "chemical bombardment", I can totally empathise
(is that a word?) with you. Good on you for your attitude and optimism...
very important to hang on to those. And yes, life can go on pretty much
normally in spite of the *poisons*. I chose to sleep thru my treatments,
waking only to walk from bed to car, car to chair, chair to car, car to bed.
I didn't sleep thru the treatments, found I couldn't stop watching that
stuff go into my hand.

Keep us posted on how you're doing..and we'll keep you in our thoughts &
prayers.

Jill in AR
(who has a new laptop and hasn't figured out all the settings yet and can't
remember how to do my *bonafides*)

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donna....@gmail.com

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May 25, 2008, 1:14:04 PM5/25/08
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Thanks, Jill. Prayers are always appreciated.
I always have a book with me during treatments.
The only way I can handle the amount of time it takes.
Donna

Jill

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May 25, 2008, 10:06:45 PM5/25/08
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How long does your treatment take? Mine were usually 2 to 2-1/2 hours and I
always had a book with me but found it difficult to concentrate.

Jill in AR

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Rick Terry

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May 27, 2008, 6:30:51 PM5/27/08
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On May 14, 11:24 pm, Har...@see-my-sig.com (H) wrote:

As me.

This is almost scary. Almost.

I consider myself to be a bit, A BIT, above average in basic
capabilities. To quote a now dead fat guy in a relatively forgettable
movie: "I could'a been a contenda!"

H

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May 27, 2008, 9:41:00 PM5/27/08
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Rick Terry <rickd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I consider myself to be a bit, A BIT, above average in basic
> capabilities. To quote a now dead fat guy in a relatively forgettable
> movie: "I could'a been a contenda!"

On The Waterfront, right? Marlon Brando? I've never watched it, but from
what I've read, it's better than your average movie...

Aren't all brats "above average"?

Me, I used to be above average, but then I grew up. I'm not sure I even
believe in "average" anymore. <more beer, barkeep>

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