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From: "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.com>

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:54:46 -1000

Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 8:54 pm

Subject: Re: Steel Rail Boondoggle

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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

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> "Hertz Donut" <some...@outthere.com> wrote in message
> news:n6OdnVa519XTloXVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net...

>> We need to make it harder for people to own vehicles.

> Why do you want to taake away a persons right to make their own decision
> of how they want to get around?

No, of course not. There are simply too many vehicles on the road, many of
them being operated by persons who do not know how to drive.

> We need to make it
>> more palatable for people to use the bus system.

> How do you do that?

Make it cheaper. Make it island wide. expand the coverage, mopre frequent
busses, etc. The Bus has already made little progress in this area.

> We need to double deck the
>> freeways like they did in California.

> Where are the "double decked" freeways are in Los Angeles? And even when
> they "double deck" the freways did that solve the problem?

Guess you've never been to California? And yes, it made the commute much,
much faster.

> But none of this will get done,
>> because of the mental grid-lock of our legislators.

> Or maybe because whatever option you consider it has its advantages and
> disadvantages?

> Yet the state keeps
>> electing the same old idiots over and over again.

> The "State" does not elect these people, we the people in the State elect
> these people.

By the "state". I meant the voters in Hawaii.

So, "if" they are "idiots" that means the people in the State

> who voted for them, are the "idiots",

The average voter in Hawaii doesn't vote for whom is best...

don't you think? Of course having

> said that, maybe regardless of who we elect, nothing much will change.

That attitude is as much to blame for our current situation as anything
else. The "good ol' Boy" system in Hawaii has to change. A freeway project
or roadwork project that would take two weeks in the mainland takes years
here in Hawaii. I know...Ilived in the mainland. I lived in the snow belt,
in an area where heavy salt was used to keep the roads clear in the winter.
Every year, vast stretches of highway and surface streets would be repaved.
Here in Hawaii, a 2.3 mile stretch of road just past my home is being
repaved. So far, it has taken 8 and a half months. and the project has
barely done anything. In the mainland, the work would have been finished in
perhaps 3 to 4 days.

The amount of fraud and waste when it comes to public works in this state is
truly frightening. I wonder what would happen if the federal government
ever decided to investigate?

> perahps this state has a problem because one party has been in firm
> control of the government for an awful long time.

Yet the "PEOPLE* keep electing the same party that never changes anything.
Perhaps it is time to get rid of the democrats (yeah...like that isever
going to happen...)

In any event, complaining about

> the problem does not solve the perceived problem it seems to me.

*NOT* complaining is the same as approving what is going on. That is
another thing that bothers me about Hawaii...no one ever complains. Perhaps
if more people *DID* complain, it might make a difference.

Honu

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