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dallas...@gmail.com

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Multiple counts of bribery and extortion for each:

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/8853688p-8754302c.html

Yee Haw! It's about time.

Dallas

Sara

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These Federal Indictments will sure help out U.S. Attorney General,
Alberto Gonzales, who is about to get indicted himself, for using His
political office to fire 8 U.S. Attorneys because they refused to be
"Loyal Bushies".
>

In this same page is the following relevant story, i.e. Alaskans
didn't want "No Misfits", they wanted ALL of them.
>
Clearly there is No State More corrupt than Alaska and apparently that
is what they want because they keep re-electing them.
>
When will the FBI go after Ted Stevens?
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"ALASKA WANTS NO MISFITS"
>
5-18-99-Sanctuary Alaska, Nazis and Jews :
>
'Alaska wants no misfits'
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http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/sanctuary/v-printer/story/8825926p-8726836c.html
>
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'Alaska wants no misfits'
Sanctuary - Alaska, the Nazis and the Jews
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(PHOTO)
These equestrians were part of the July 4th parade on 4th Ave in 1940.
Behind them is the Anchorage Hotel at 4th and E St. At that time, many
in the state wanted to stay out of the European war. ( )
---
Soldiers parade on 4th Avenue near E St. in this photo from the
1940's. American soldiers poured into the territory during the prewar
military buildup.
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Alaska residents expressed worry that Jewish refugees would be unable
to assimilate into territorial society. ( )
----
By Tom Kizzia
Anchorage Daily News
(Published: May 18, 1999)
---
As members of the small Jewish community in Neustadt waited through
the early months of war for word on their application to immigrate to
Alaska, they learned of a frightening proposal by the local Nazi
authorities.
----
The Jewish cemeteries in the region could be flattened and plowed
under for agriculture. The tombstones would make excellent sharpening
stones, one official said.
---
Even for Jews who had remained in Germany through the first waves of
emigration, hoping things would get better, the message about the
future was plain.
---
But in America, where the debate over opening the Alaska Territory to
immigrants gathered steam in the first months of World War II, nobody
spoke of saving people from death chambers.
---
At the beginning of 1940, annihilation of the Jewish population was
not yet German government policy.
---
In fact, some Nazi officials were weighing plans to deport the Jews en
masse to a new colony carved out on Poland's eastern frontier or to
the African island of Madagascar.
---
Despite the outbreak of war, sealed trains carrying emigrants with
visas ran from Berlin through Paris to the Atlantic port of Lisbon.
----
Concentration camps were filling with Communists and other
"undesirables," but they had not yet become machines for
extermination.
---
Hitler had publicly threatened far worse. Yet for now, official policy
was forced emigration of the nation's remaining 200,000-plus Jews?an
early variant of what would later come to be known as "ethnic
cleansing."
---
Not that the Germans made it easy for them to leave. Applicants were
stripped of wealth that might make them more appealing as settlers in
a new land.
---
Nor was it easy to find somewhere to go. There were 309,782
applications for U.S. visas from Germany and Austria in the spring of
1940, according to a news wire story that appeared, among other
places, in The Anchorage Daily Times.
---
Only 27,370 people from those countries would be allowed to immigrate
under U.S. quotas.
---
Shortly before war began, the ocean liner St. Louis, filled with Jews
without visas, had been sent back to Europe from the eastern seaboard.
---
The British were trying to placate Arab leaders by cutting off
emigration to Palestine. Other countries said they were full.
--
The start of fighting created further obstacles. German U-boats sank
110 merchant ships in the first four months of war.
---
In the United States, opponents of immigration began to warn of spies
slipping into the country through the "Trojan Horse" of refugee
quotas.
---
As millions of additional Jews fell under German authority in the
Reich's sweep through Eastern Europe, the grand Nazi resettlement
schemes were quietly abandoned.
---
Emigration, even deportation, became a grim public relations mask. The
Nazis began to systematically collect Jews and move them into urban
ghettos.
---
In the midst of all this, the Alaska settlement plan appeared as a
peephole of light.
---
>From Breslau, Germany, Joachim Hein wrote the Department of the
Interior asking to immigrate to Alaska with his wife, Anna, and
daughter, Henny.
---
His letter, along with others, sits today in the National Archives.
"We shall in no way a burden for the country, because we take our
electric machines from here and furnish a manufacture in aprons and
linen, like we have had here. But if this business is not agreable
(sic) to your Excellency, we are prepared to every work." Hein added
that his daughter had "studied philosophy and is a teacher and she is
musical too."
---
Moses Rudman wrote from the Bronx, N.Y., where he was staying with
relatives on a visitor's visa that would soon expire. His wife, Blume,
and daughter, Margot, were still in Germany. He asked the government
to reunite them in Alaska.
---
In the central German town of Neustadt, Bruno Rosenthal continued to
wait for a reply to his inquiries on behalf of his family and friends.
---
Finally, a letter from the Department of the Interior arrived, on
March 27, 1940. It said simply:
"We are trying to find out from the appropriate Governmental
authorities what disposition can be made of your request for
permission to immigrate to Alaska. Our inquiries have not been
answered yet. As soon as possible we will send you further
information."
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Rosenthal replied at once:
"We ... are registered by the American Consul for entering into the
United States and we are waiting for calling off. But we all have to
wait about one year and it is not possible to stay here longer. We are
anxious to go abroad immediately. I requested for permission to
immigrate to Alaska, because we are short of time. "Is it possible, to
deliver my request as an Immediate Request on Mr. President?"
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A 'Dumping ground'
---
Mrs. Emma de la Vergne, the U.S. recorder at Fairbanks and an "old-
time resident of the North," was receptive when the Fairbanks Daily
News-Miner asked her about the new refugee idea.
---
"Let the German-Jew refugees come to Alaska, if they want to. Alaska
is a big country. Give them a chance. If they cannot make a go of it,
they will leave."
---
But Mrs. de la Vergne, the widow of a well-loved doctor, was in the
minority.
---
Most other Fairbanksans quoted by the newspaper in November 1938
criticized the idea.
---
For the next three years, it was hard to find anybody in Alaska with
anything favorable to say about opening the territory to refugees
fleeing Europe.
---
"No use to make a dumping ground of this country," said Frank Frates,
a local miner.
---
Fairbanks Mayor Leslie Nerland said the idea had as much appeal among
Alaskans as the old proposal to turn Alaska into a penal colony.
---
Emma Miller, identified as "one of the leaders of the Fairbanks
younger social set," echoed a strong national sentiment when she said
America had enough problems already. "Why wish refugees of any sort
from Europe on any part of the United States?" she asked.
---
"They are not the type of hardy Scandinavians who have had so much to
do with development of Alaska on their own initiative," said
postmaster Robert E. Sheldon, president of the Fairbanks Chamber of
Commerce.
---
"Alaska wants no misfits and is unprepared to care for discards,"
concluded an editorial in Cap Lathrop's News-Miner.
---
The Chambers of Commerce in Anchorage, Fairbanks, Juneau and Valdez
passed resolutions opposing the refugee plan.
---
The Anchorage Chamber feared a colony made up entirely of immigrants,
which would "stifle assimilation and will prevent them from becoming
Americanised."
---
The Juneau Chamber, citing recent experience with the federal
agricultural colony in the Matanuska Valley, predicted a heavy tax
burden would fall on the territory to support roads and schools.
---
The Fairbanks Chamber would only support colonization by "financially
responsible individuals and groups," such as a proposed settlement by
Mormons.
---
A few small-town chambers went the other way. Skagway and Petersburg
endorsed the Interior Department settlement plan, eager to develop
Alaska by any means possible.
---
The Seward Chamber of Commerce cabled Ickes to declare that the Kenai
Peninsula could support a quarter-million additional inhabitants,
"regardless their creed or condition their personal finances."
---
But, by and large, when Alaskans talked about refugees it was to find
problems. No one in the public record talked about finding a way to
make a resettlement plan work.
---
One strike against the plan was that its chief backer, Interior
Secretary Harold Ickes, was widely distrusted in Alaska.
---
It would not have come as a surprise to many territorial residents if
Ickes had dreamed up such a scheme not for humanitarian reasons but
simply to stir up his political opponents in the north.
---
Critics questioned the Slattery Report's glib economic predictions.
They said unemployed workers were already swarming north looking for
jobs in military construction, overloading relief agencies.
---
They complained that subsidies would be necessary?a possibility of
special concern to the Alaska Miners Association, which noted that its
members would likely carry much of the new tax burden.
---
Some critics professed concern for the immigrants themselves, saying
they would suffer from "forced" colonization.
---
Others predicted practical problems from having a special class of
citizen unable to travel freely to the states. Though all ship
passengers from Alaska routinely passed through customs at Seattle,
they complained that Alaskans would face the humiliation of carrying
special identification cards.
---
The most common complaint in Alaska, however, was that the potential
immigrants?"of wholly alien racial and religious character," as one
business group put it?would not be able to adapt to harsh frontier
conditions.
---
Ickes' clever ploy, pitching the program as an effort to build
Alaska's economy, had forced Alaskans to abandon their comfortable pro-
development rhetoric.
---
Years later, University of Alaska historian Orlando Miller wrote that
Alaskans seemed almost forced into adopting anti-Semitism as a
strategy because a full discussion of the problems of new settlements
would contradict the old boosterism and faith in the frontier's
promise.
---
"Our campaign to bring the needs of Alaska to the attention of the
Nation has succeeded almost too well," wrote the Juneau Empire.
---
"Now we appear to be in danger of being run over by a juggernaut of
unwise and hasty schemes for colonization."
---
"The question," Miller wrote, "was turned from whether Alaska was good
enough for refugee settlers to whether the settlers were good enough
for Alaska."
---
Hence the Anchorage Pioneer Igloo said the aliens would be "a menace
to our American civilization" and the Fairbanks News-Miner said
---
the proposal was "enough to make any true American and particularly
Alaskan think twice ... Keep Alaska American."
---
Jewish voices unheard
---
Jewish miners and traders had long played a role in the life of the
territory, of course.
---
In fact, four of the seven partners in the San Francisco firm that
bought out the assets of the Russian American Co. in 1867 were
Jewish?as was Benjamin Levi, the young U.S. soldier who raised the
American flag over Sitka during the ceremony taking control of Alaska
from Russia.
---
Critics of the colonization plan sometimes prefaced their remarks by
expressing indignation over "the brutalities heaped upon the Jews by
Germany."
---
But resettlement efforts should point the European Jews toward warmer
climes, they said.
"Let others settle the Jewish problem," said the News-Miner, "but as
for Alaska, open the way for her to march on toward statehood with a
people schooled in American traditions and such as she can assimilate
and with whom she can build from the ground up with security and
solidarity."
---
Throughout this time, Alaskans never heard the voices of people like
Bruno Rosenthal. They did not personally close the door in the face of
Rosel Lilienfeld and her sons.
---
Many Alaskans seemed proud of their insular lives, and their
newspapers did little to drive home the plight of the individual
European Jew.
---
"Editorials, news stories and the comments of businessmen and
politicians showed interests that rarely ventured beyond the
territory," wrote Miller,
---
"that centered on the gossip and trade in the small towns, the level
of gold production, the size and value of the salmon catch, the high
freight rates, and the continuing wicked neglect of Alaska by the
federal government."
---
One of the few personal accounts from Germany to run in The Anchorage
Times was an interview with the U.S. Commissioner from Yakutat, who
returned from a vacation in Germany with his wife and children in 1939
to report the people were "happy, well fed and with a great deal of
freedom."
---
"You read all sorts of stories in this country about Germany which are
not the least bit true," Hardy Trefzger told the Times. "Nobody hated
Hitler more than I before we went to Germany, but when I saw how
things were, I changed my mind."
---
To be sure, The Anchorage Times took no such position on the editorial
page, denouncing the Nazis' anti-Jewish actions as "savagery."
---
But to Robert Atwood's Times, as to many Americans, such barbarism was
a European problem. Even as news of the latest German Panzer attacks
filled the Times' front page, the newspaper campaigned to keep America
out of the conflagration.
---
"We're staying out of this war," the paper wrote in 1940, addressing
Britain's leaders. "Did you get that? We're staying out."
---
The Anchorage Times was editorially silent on the refugee plans,
quoting instead the mostly negative views of other papers.
---
A skepticism came through in headlines referring to "German Cast-Offs"
and foreigners ready to "Invade North."
---
Atwood reprinted the entire Slattery Report, which had underplayed the
controversial refugee angle and mentioned Jews only once, under an
introduction titled "Jews for Alaska?"
---
In the spring of 1940, as Congress prepared for a showdown over the
Alaska refugee plan, Anchorage Chamber of Commerce president Clyde R.
Ellis composed a report summarizing what he said were Anchorage's
objections to the plan.
---
"Subsidized foreign refugees competing with American businessmen and
American citizens would create a race prejudice such as has been
practically unknown in our country during its history,"
----
predicted Ellis, a lawyer and one-time territorial commander of the
American Legion.
---
The biggest objection in Anchorage, he said, was that these new
foreigners would be difficult to assimilate. Just look at how they had
failed to mix with the German population, bringing such trouble down
upon themselves, the chamber president said.
---
"Without casting any reflection on that race in our country which are
of the same faith religiously as the refugees which the colonization
plan is meant to embrace," Ellis wrote,
---
"we can safely say without fear of contradiction, that those refugees
have proven their non-assimilability which has resulted in the
disaster which has overtaken them."
---
Tolernace and democracy
---
President Roosevelt did not respond personally to Bruno Rosenthal's
request, as Rosenthal had asked in March 1940.
---
Instead, a legislative circular regarding the upcoming debate in
Congress over a bill providing for the settlement and development of
Alaska was mailed to Germany.
---
Four months later, at the end of August, it reached Neustadt.
---
"I am quite informed about the economic conditions and problems of
Alaska," Rosenthal wrote back. And then he opened his copy of the
Slattery Report and quoted back to the Interior Department the words
on which the Jewish families of Neustadt had pinned their hopes of
survival.
---
He wrote: "As 'tolerance and democracy are natural products of the
frontier where a man is appraised for his worth and not for his
ancestry,' as written in the Dep. Report on
---
'The Problem of Alaskan Development,' Page 70066/85, 'and it makes
little difference whether this population comes from the United States
or from abroad,' and as we applicants are such men as the Alaskans are
fond of, I hope, I shall be advised as soon as possible that I have
the permission to immigrate to Alaska, as requested since May 1939
till to-day."
---
By the time he wrote those words, however, the debate was over and the
fate of Neustadt's last Jews was sealed.
---
Today's story is drawn from the following sources:
---
Alaska's reactions to the Slattery Report are drawn especially from
The Anchorage Daily Times and the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner,
1938-1940.
---
Two scholarly articles explored the Alaska plan and its opposition:
Gerald S. Berman, "Reaction to the Resettlement of World War II
Refugees in Alaska,"
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Jewish Social Studies, volume 44, 1982; and Claus-M. Naske, "Jewish
Immigration and Alaskan Economic Development: A Study in Futility,"
Western States Jewish Historical Quarterly, vol. 8 (Jan. 1976), pp.
139-157.
---
Full treatment of the Alaska response is also available in Orlando W.
Miller's book, "The Frontier in Alaska and the Matanuska Colony," Yale
University Press, New Haven, Ct., 1975, pp. 162-176.
---
Two important books on general U.S. immigration policies before World
War II include lengthy discussion of the debate over Alaska:
---
Henry Feingold, "The Politics of Rescue: The Roosevelt Administration
and the Holocaust, 1938-1945," Rutgers University Press, 1970; and
David
S. Wyman, "Paper Walls: America and the Refugee Crisis, 1938-41"
University of Massachusetts Press, 1968.
---
Information on the history of Jews in Alaska was drawn from Matthew
Eisenberg, "The Last Frontier: Jewish Pioneers in Alaska," Hebrew
Union College 1991 (thesis available at Loussac Library Alaska
Collection).
---
The Slattery Report is available from library sources in Alaska: "The
Problem of Alaskan Development," United States Department of the
Interior, Harold L. Ickes, Secretary, Washington, 1939/1940.
---
The letters of Bruno Rosenthal and other European Jews regarding
Alaska, along with Interior Dept. memos on the Slattery Report are
available in the National Archives. The file is available on microfilm
at University of Alaska Fairbanks archives, Elmer E. Rasmuson Library
--- Copyright ? 2007 The Anchorage Daily News (www.adn.com)

Richard Nibbler

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whos next. my money is on Stevens yee haw!

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Richard Nibbler

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Ben Stevens to clarify whos next.


Floyd L. Davidson

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"Richard Nibbler" <Nib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>whos next. my money is on Stevens yee haw!

Others may come first. Ben Stevens will be the _last_
legislator indicted.

All together there must be several more indictments to come.

After Stevens will be non-legislators, ending with Veco CEO Bill
Allan and VECO VP Rick Smith. I'd guess they will not be given
immunity for their testimony, given the incredible amount of
evidence that appears to exist and the seriousness of the
charges. Instead, they'll likely testify for the prosecution,
and in return be allowed to plead guilty to reduced charges.

But I'll bet that both Allen and Smith do at least some jail
time too.

Heh, heh... can't you just imagine the day the FBI and the
prosecutor sat Allen down and explained that they'd had wiretaps
and had monitored their hotel room business meetings with video
cameras!

"I own your ass.", said Allen to Kott, on tape.

But what did the prosecutor say to Allen... :-)

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) fl...@apaflo.com

Robert Bolton

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"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Nibbler" <Nib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>whos next. my money is on Stevens yee haw!
>
> Others may come first. Ben Stevens will be the _last_
> legislator indicted.
>
I've been thinking procesutors will want to have evidence that is damning
beyond dispute before they risk the wrath of Uncle Ted by indicting Ben.
I wondered when he didn't run for re-election if he wasn't hoping that
quiting the game would be enough concession for procesutors to decide to
keave him alone, but it apparantly didn't work for some of the others.

> All together there must be several more indictments to come.
>
> After Stevens will be non-legislators, ending with Veco CEO Bill
> Allan and VECO VP Rick Smith. I'd guess they will not be given
> immunity for their testimony, given the incredible amount of
> evidence that appears to exist and the seriousness of the
> charges. Instead, they'll likely testify for the prosecution,
> and in return be allowed to plead guilty to reduced charges.
>
> But I'll bet that both Allen and Smith do at least some jail
> time too.
>
> Heh, heh... can't you just imagine the day the FBI and the
> prosecutor sat Allen down and explained that they'd had wiretaps
> and had monitored their hotel room business meetings with video
> cameras!
>
> "I own your ass.", said Allen to Kott, on tape.
>
> But what did the prosecutor say to Allen... :-)
>

"Here, Let me show you how it's done." That's an interesting relationship
between Allen and Kott, isn't it? For Kott to so willing accept such a
statement shows Allen really does own his ass. Perhaps they can share the
same jail cell.

Robert


Floyd L. Davidson

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May 6, 2007, 3:04:38 PM5/6/07
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"Robert Bolton" <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>
>I've been thinking procesutors will want to have evidence that is damning
>beyond dispute before they risk the wrath of Uncle Ted by indicting Ben.
>I wondered when he didn't run for re-election if he wasn't hoping that
>quiting the game would be enough concession for procesutors to decide to
>keave him alone, but it apparantly didn't work for some of the others.

I doubt they assumed not running would get anyone off the hook.

They were probably assuming the arrests would come much sooner.
Obviously they all do realize the FBI really does have the goods
on them, and it's only a matter of time...

>> "I own your ass.", said Allen to Kott, on tape.
>>
>> But what did the prosecutor say to Allen... :-)
>>
>"Here, Let me show you how it's done." That's an interesting relationship
>between Allen and Kott, isn't it? For Kott to so willing accept such a
>statement shows Allen really does own his ass. Perhaps they can share the
>same jail cell.

One of the things that caught me by surprise is how low these
guys have sunk in *their* own eyes.

Snide remarks behind their backs by the guys buying them is not
surprising at all; but Veco was sneering at them to their faces
and appear to have been making them grovel just for Veco's own
entertainment. And these yahoos accepted that degradation for
relative peanuts in terms of money!

I fully expect someone who works as a snitch on the street to
act the way these guys did, with a clear lack of self esteem and
not a bit of moral or legal sense. But for people who have been
elected to the State Legislature long enough to have leadership
roles... I'm astounded that they would trade much for so little
in the way of money.

I mean... my soul is for sale too, but the price *starts* at a
significantly higher price! Offer me $1,000,000 and we can at
least talk about it. But insult me with $10,000... I'd go
straight to the FBI and offer to help put them all in jail.

Hmmm. I wonder how many $10,000 offers they made before they
found a Republican who had the brass to turn them it, or if they
simply offered to bribe a Democrat by mistake.

book...@yahoo.com

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I have the impression that the way the feds net these fish is to do a
sting operation with a "Judas Goat," get few turning state's
evidence, then tighten the net. Not sure if this kettle of Juneau
fish get hit with racketeering, income tax evasion, or what. Not sure
how much of a hit Veco takes. My bet is some will claim they were
baited by the feds and thought they were just cooperating.

To me it looks like someone was a whistle blower more than a year ago,
when Governor Murkowski was a player. Sarah Palin probably in the
catbird's seat because it looks like all these guys are Republicans.
bookburn

Robert Bolton

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"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert Bolton" <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:

I remember Ray Metcalf on the news crying foul about what was going on.

On the subject of Democrat/Republican stereotypes, I've met honest, decent
people of both the liberal and conservative persuasions but the women
haters, racists, thieves, predators, and the anti-education types
certainly do prefer the Republican Party over the Democratic. This
morning a guy called Rick Rydell's Republican radio show to say he was
pissed about seeing Ethan Berkowitz and Sarah Palin's comments on the
arrests, saying he was sick of Sarah's bright eyed and beauty queen
attitude. It's funny how people who otherwise supports all things
Republican just can't stomach a woman governor.

Robert


Floyd L. Davidson

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May 10, 2007, 12:34:28 AM5/10/07
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"Robert Bolton" <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote in message
>news:877irlb...@barrow.com...
>> Hmmm. I wonder how many $10,000 offers they made before they
>> found a Republican who had the brass to turn them it, or if they
>> simply offered to bribe a Democrat by mistake.
>>
>I remember Ray Metcalf on the news crying foul about what was going on.

Metcalf's complaints to the APOC didn't appear, in public, to go
far... but apparently he deserves credit for stirring the FBI et
al to begin investigating.

Virtually everything that Metcalf has to say is quite
interesting. And I discovered once in the distant past that if
something he publishes strikes enough interest to email him, he
will answer and discuss it.

>On the subject of Democrat/Republican stereotypes, I've met honest, decent
>people of both the liberal and conservative persuasions but the women
>haters, racists, thieves, predators, and the anti-education types
>certainly do prefer the Republican Party over the Democratic. This
>morning a guy called Rick Rydell's Republican radio show to say he was
>pissed about seeing Ethan Berkowitz and Sarah Palin's comments on the
>arrests, saying he was sick of Sarah's bright eyed and beauty queen

Like probably just about everyone else more than 50 miles from
her home, the *only* reason I ever so much as knew that Sarah
Palin existed was because she started making noise about
corruption as soon as she saw it. And Berkowitz is something
very close. From this distance it appears that their main
attributes are a genuine sense of honesty and justice mixed with
a few real moral values.

How nice!

And, at least so far, she seems fairly adept at the lesser
important aspects of running the State's executive branch, so I
find it hard to complain.

>attitude. It's funny how people who otherwise supports all things
>Republican just can't stomach a woman governor.

It has been just hilarious to read the Voice of the Times
editorial page for these past several months. Hmmm... it's
been a lot of very dead silence for the past week or so. :-)

My only regret is that Fran Ulmer didn't get to suffer being
attacked as the first female governor. (But, she would have
been smeared something terribly, plus Frank Murkowski would then
still be in the Senate. Getting Murky out of the Senate was
worth almost anything we suffered from him as a Governor.)

Robert Bolton

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"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert Bolton" <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>>"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote in message
>>news:877irlb...@barrow.com...
>>> Hmmm. I wonder how many $10,000 offers they made before they
>>> found a Republican who had the brass to turn them it, or if they
>>> simply offered to bribe a Democrat by mistake.
>>>
>>I remember Ray Metcalf on the news crying foul about what was going on.
>
> Metcalf's complaints to the APOC didn't appear, in public, to go
> far... but apparently he deserves credit for stirring the FBI et
> al to begin investigating.
>
I was surprised by what he was saying as you never hear politicians making
such specific and loud charges of corruption. Looks like he had a reason.
...

>
> Like probably just about everyone else more than 50 miles from
> her home, the *only* reason I ever so much as knew that Sarah
> Palin existed was because she started making noise about
> corruption as soon as she saw it. And Berkowitz is something
> very close. From this distance it appears that their main
> attributes are a genuine sense of honesty and justice mixed with
> a few real moral values.
>
> How nice!
>
> And, at least so far, she seems fairly adept at the lesser
> important aspects of running the State's executive branch, so I
> find it hard to complain.
>
Her fundamentalist Christian beliefs scared me but I'm happy to see that
to date she seems to be doing just fine, which is head and shoulders above
our last governor. Life in Juneau has been like a movie lately. Just
when it looked looked liked our government was totally lost, voters and
the FBI rose up and cleaned house. I imagine the remaining legislators
will be a little more carefull in the future.

>>attitude. It's funny how people who otherwise supports all things
>>Republican just can't stomach a woman governor.
>
> It has been just hilarious to read the Voice of the Times
> editorial page for these past several months. Hmmm... it's
> been a lot of very dead silence for the past week or so. :-)
>

Yes, and since your post the news says the Voice of the Times contract
will not be renewed.

> My only regret is that Fran Ulmer didn't get to suffer being
> attacked as the first female governor. (But, she would have
> been smeared something terribly, plus Frank Murkowski would then
> still be in the Senate. Getting Murky out of the Senate was
> worth almost anything we suffered from him as a Governor.)
>

I agree with you on Fran. A guy here at work who just arrived last
October was surprised when I told him Sarah was Republican. The cold
shoulder she's getting by the right wing media had lead him to think she
was a Dem. Fran would have only had it worse.

Robert


Floyd L. Davidson

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"Robert Bolton" <robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:

>"Floyd L. Davidson" <fl...@apaflo.com> wrote:
>>>attitude. It's funny how people who otherwise supports all things
>>>Republican just can't stomach a woman governor.
>>
>> It has been just hilarious to read the Voice of the Times
>> editorial page for these past several months. Hmmm... it's
>> been a lot of very dead silence for the past week or so. :-)
>>
>Yes, and since your post the news says the Voice of the Times contract
>will not be renewed.

I'm happy with it being cancelled. They had so much
bunk printed on that page and treated just as if it were
sensible that it was disgusting.

Attacking Sarah Palin (probably as much because she is a
she as because she spoke out on corruption by
Murkowski's administration) was just one extremely
annoying habit they had. The shear crudeness of the
editorials was another.

But the absolute funniest (err, stupidest) thing they
ever said had to do with ANWR, and they they actually
repeated this one twice in the past couple of years that
I noticed. They flat stated that people were lying
about pictures of ANWR... because as "everyone who has
been there knows" it is a flat wasteland without a
mountain in sight, and the pictures showed beautiful
mountains.

I have several images of those mountains on my webpage.
All are taken from Kaktovik, the farthest north point on
the coastal plain of ANWR. It is impossible to get
farther from mountains that where these pictures were
taken... and they aren't far away!

http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson/anwr/

For anyone who actually has been there, it was obvious
that the Times editorial staff had *never* been to ANWR
with their eyes open, and were telling lies for effect.

>> My only regret is that Fran Ulmer didn't get to suffer being
>> attacked as the first female governor. (But, she would have
>> been smeared something terribly, plus Frank Murkowski would then
>> still be in the Senate. Getting Murky out of the Senate was
>> worth almost anything we suffered from him as a Governor.)
>>
>I agree with you on Fran. A guy here at work who just arrived last
>October was surprised when I told him Sarah was Republican. The cold
>shoulder she's getting by the right wing media had lead him to think she
>was a Dem. Fran would have only had it worse.

I do think that once the ball is rolling (both for the
Governor's office and for the US President) that we will
likely see many more females elected. In general they
do appear better equipped to handle the office.

jeff_...@yahoo.com

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May 13, 2007, 12:29:21 PM5/13/07
to
On May 13, 4:09 am, f...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
> "Robert Bolton" <robertboltond...@gci.net> wrote:

> >"Floyd L. Davidson" <f...@apaflo.com> wrote:
> >>>attitude. It's funny how people who otherwise supports all things
> >>>Republican just can't stomach a woman governor.
>
> >> It has been just hilarious to read the Voice of the Times
> >> editorial page for these past several months. Hmmm... it's
> >> been a lot of very dead silence for the past week or so. :-)
>
> >Yes, and since your post the news says the Voice of the Times contract
> >will not be renewed.
>
> I'm happy with it being cancelled. They had so much
> bunk printed on that page and treated just as if it were
> sensible that it was disgusting.
>
> Attacking Sarah Palin (probably as much because she is a
> she as because she spoke out on corruption by
> Murkowski's administration) was just one extremely
> annoying habit they had. The shear crudeness of the
> editorials was another.

Their editorials have always crude. They would begin by stating
something that was thoughtful but by the end of the column, it would
be another rant about democrats (like AM radio).

>
> But the absolute funniest (err, stupidest) thing they
> ever said had to do with ANWR, and they they actually
> repeated this one twice in the past couple of years that
> I noticed. They flat stated that people were lying
> about pictures of ANWR... because as "everyone who has
> been there knows" it is a flat wasteland without a
> mountain in sight, and the pictures showed beautiful
> mountains.
>
> I have several images of those mountains on my webpage.
> All are taken from Kaktovik, the farthest north point on
> the coastal plain of ANWR. It is impossible to get
> farther from mountains that where these pictures were
> taken... and they aren't far away!
>
> http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson/anwr/
>
> For anyone who actually has been there, it was obvious
> that the Times editorial staff had *never* been to ANWR
> with their eyes open, and were telling lies for effect.

It wasn't that so much as the Times was the voice for VECO. They
definitely weren't the voice for conservatives (as claimed). They
endorsed Knowles over Palin.

>
> >> My only regret is that Fran Ulmer didn't get to suffer being
> >> attacked as the first female governor. (But, she would have
> >> been smeared something terribly, plus Frank Murkowski would then
> >> still be in the Senate. Getting Murky out of the Senate was
> >> worth almost anything we suffered from him as a Governor.)
>
> >I agree with you on Fran. A guy here at work who just arrived last
> >October was surprised when I told him Sarah was Republican. The cold
> >shoulder she's getting by the right wing media had lead him to think she
> >was a Dem. Fran would have only had it worse.
>
> I do think that once the ball is rolling (both for the
> Governor's office and for the US President) that we will
> likely see many more females elected. In general they
> do appear better equipped to handle the office.
>
> --
> Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>

> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) f...@apaflo.com


eric h

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May 16, 2007, 9:37:14 PM5/16/07
to
In article <1179073761.5...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
jeff_...@yahoo.com <jeff_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Their editorials have always crude. They would begin by stating
>something that was thoughtful but by the end of the column, it would
>be another rant about democrats (like AM radio).

Mike Doogan's fine piece on VoT can be found at
http://208.109.242.142/archives/archives-2004/feature2vol13ed43.shtml
--
---
"Wake up, everybody."--McFadden/Whitehead/Carstarphen

book...@yahoo.com

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May 17, 2007, 5:26:47 AM5/17/07
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 01:37:14 +0000 (UTC), eh...@xmission.xmission.com
(eric h) wrote:

>In article <1179073761.5...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> jeff_...@yahoo.com <jeff_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Their editorials have always crude. They would begin by stating
>>something that was thoughtful but by the end of the column, it would
>>be another rant about democrats (like AM radio).
>
>Mike Doogan's fine piece on VoT can be found at
>http://208.109.242.142/archives/archives-2004/feature2vol13ed43.shtml


Ironically, the duplicity in reporting Dugan commented about seems to
have come home to roost, because Dugan wrote editorials in '04, but
now is elected to public office and it's the same Veco organization
he's confronting, then and now.

I note that ADN ceased publishing the Times insert just after the Bust
involving Veco. The reported that's been appearing on "Anchorage
Edition" TV on Fridays, Paul something, apparently with Veco
alliances, was absent last Friday. bookburn

Sara

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May 29, 2007, 8:25:30 PM5/29/07
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++++++
THIS IS JUST "THE TIP" OF A VERY BIG ICEBERG!
---
Subject: TED STEVENS NOW UNDER INVESTIGATION WITH HIS SON
----
NOTE: OPEN URL TO SEE PICTURE OF TED'S HOUSE.
----
Subject:5-29-07-Feds eye Stevens' home remodeling project
---
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/v-printer/story/8928969p-8829178c.html
>
------?
Feds eye Stevens' home remodeling project
---
GIRDWOOD: Veco approved some invoices for 2000 upgrade at senator's
house, says builder.
---
Stevens' Girdwood house was jacked up and had a new story built
underneath the original one. Its assessed value now is $440,900. (MARC
LESTER / Anchorage Daily News)
---
Ted Stevens and his wife, Catherine, attended the renaming of Ted
Stevens Anchorage International Airport in July 2000. The house was
about to be renovated. (MARC LESTER / Daily News archive 2000)
---
Deanna and Bob Persons are longtime owners of the Double Musky Inn.
Bob Persons acted on Stevens' behalf during the work. (BILL ROTH /
Daily News archive 2001)
By RICHARD MAUER
Anchorage Daily News
(Published: May 29, 2007)
---
The FBI and a federal grand jury have been investigating an extensive
remodeling project at U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens' home in Girdwood that
involved the top executive of Veco Corp. in the hiring of at least one
of the key contractors.
---
Three contractors who worked on the project said in recent interviews
with the Daily News that the FBI asked them to turn over their records
from the job.
---
One said he was called to testify about the project before a federal
grand jury in Anchorage in December.
---
The remodeling work, which more than doubled the size of the house,
occurred in the summer and fall of 2000. The four-bedroom home, about
two blocks from the day lodge parking lot at the Alyeska ski resort,
is Stevens' official residence in Alaska.
---
An old friend of Stevens in Girdwood, longtime Double Musky restaurant
owner Bob Persons, has been questioned by the FBI about the project.
He monitored the remodeling for Stevens and his wife while they were
in Washington, D.C.
---
"I will be testifying. That's all I can tell you," Persons said in a
brief interview last week. "It is an ongoing investigation that I'm
not supposed to talk to or see anybody about it."
----
Persons would not elaborate on whether he meant that he would testify
before a grand jury, at a trial, or both, or for whom. He said he
believed Stevens did nothing wrong.
---
Ted Stevens and his wife, Catherine, declined to answer questions
about the Girdwood house. ---
In a prepared statement issued by his office, Stevens said: "While I
understand the public's interest in the ongoing federal investigation,
it has been my long-standing policy to not comment on such matters.
Therefore, I will withhold comment at this time to avoid even the
appearance that I might influence this investigation."
----
The FBI and the U.S. Justice Department's Public Integrity Section,
which are in the midst of a broad investigation of corruption in
Alaska, would not comment.
---
"This is a pending investigation and we're just not going to confirm
or deny any aspect, any rumors, any allegations out there," said FBI
spokesman Eric Gonzalez.
---
INQUIRY SURFACES
***************************
Ted Stevens, the most senior Republican in the U.S. Senate and
Alaska's most famous political figure, has not been directly connected
with the corruption investigation.
---
The wide-ranging federal inquiry surfaced in August when agents raided
six legislative offices, including those of then-Senate President Ben
Stevens, one of Ted Stevens' sons.
---
The FBI said at the time that it also had executed a search warrant in
Girdwood, among other places, although the location of that search has
never been officially disclosed.
---
Veco, an oil-field service company that has long been a strong
lobbying presence in Juneau, was one of the early targets of the
agents, according to some of the search warrants that became public.
---
On May 7, the company's longtime chief executive, Bill Allen, and a
vice president, Rick Smith, pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy,
bribery and tax charges. They are now cooperating with authorities.
---
The investigation spread to the commercial fishing industry, including
Ben Stevens' consulting clients and associates. Federal subpoenas
served on fishing companies in Seattle last year sought records
concerning both Ben and Ted Stevens.
---
Four current or former Alaska state lawmakers have been indicted and
are awaiting trial on corruption charges, and an Anchorage lobbyist
has pleaded guilty to federal corruption charges.
---
Ben Stevens has not been charged. But the charges pleaded to by Allen
and Smith alleged Ben Stevens improperly accepted $242,000 from Veco
for "giving advice, lobbying colleagues, and taking official acts in
matters before the legislature."
---
How the Girdwood home fits in with the broader investigation, or what
possible crimes are being investigated, is not clear.
---
There was a brief, unexplained reference to residential remodeling in
the government's statement of facts that accompanied Allen's and
Smith's guilty pleas.
---
The sentence, preceded by a listing of a dozen Veco-related
enterprises around the world, said:
---
"Veco was not in the business of residential construction or
remodeling."
Asked whether that line related to the construction at Stevens'
Girdwood home, Persons first said, "I'm sure it does." When pressed,
he said he wasn't certain.
----
WHERE THE BILLS WENT
******************************
Augie Paone, owner of Christensen Builders Inc. of Anchorage, said in
a recent interview that it was Bill Allen who hired him to complete
the framing and most of the interior carpentry at Stevens' home.
----
Before he could send a bill to Stevens for work in progress, he was
directed to provide it first to Veco, where someone would examine it
for accuracy, he said. When Veco approved the invoice, he would fax it
to the Stevenses in Washington, he said.
---
Paone said that as far as he knew, Stevens and his wife, Catherine,
paid his bills themselves.
---
He said he sent at least $100,000 in invoices to the Stevenses in
Washington. They paid him from what he said appeared to be a checking
account opened for the project. The checks, imprinted with the
couple's names, had single- and double-digit serial numbers, he said.
---
According to Paone and other contractors, the renovation involved a
technique often used with older dwellings in Girdwood -- jacking up a
single-story house, building another floor on the original foundation
or pilings, then lowering the original structure onto the new one. The
result is a two-story home.
---
City and state records show the Stevens home was originally built in
1971. Catherine and Ted Stevens purchased it in August 1983. Plans
show the house had two bedrooms, a living room, a kitchen and a single
bath before the 2000 expansion.
---
Toney Hannah, a house mover from Anchorage, said he had initial
discussions about a jack-up project with Ted and Catherine Stevens in
1999 but didn't hear any more about it until the next summer.
---
On July 26, 2000, Stevens faxed a letter to Anchorage building safety
officials, saying Persons had authority to act in his and Catherine's
name "in regard to construction at my house in Girdwood."
---
Stevens often relied on Persons to look after his Girdwood residence,
according to Stevens' long-term neighbor there, Julie Peterson. She
said she would call Persons if she saw a problem at the house.
--
Stevens and Persons also have a business relationship.
---
Persons is the managing partner of Alaska's Great Eagle LLC, a
racehorse-owning partnership that includes Stevens, Bill Allen and
Allen's son Mark, along with several other Alaska businessmen.
---
On July 31, 2000, Persons obtained an Anchorage land-use permit for
the Stevens remodeling. He listed the value of construction as $84,878
-- much less than the actual total turned out to be.
---
Most of the tradesmen who worked on the project couldn't be identified
to answer questions from the Daily News about how they were hired,
paid and supervised.
---
While Girdwood is within the Anchorage municipality, its local
building rules are more lax. With no inspections required, city
building records don't name the electrician, plumber, furnace
installer or others who may have worked on the project.
---
Hannah, the house mover, was found because Persons originally listed
him in the permit file as the contractor.
---
Hannah said Persons contacted him in July or August 2000 to start the
project. His crew jacked up the home. Hannah said Persons seemed to be
in a hurry to get the job done.
---
A framing crew went to work on the first floor. But Hannah said that
when he returned to Girdwood to lower the house, the framing was
unacceptable, forcing him to delay the next phase. He said he didn't
know who did the faulty carpentry.
---
Paone said he was called in late that summer to rescue the project.
"Bill Allen and some of the Veco boys, some of the Veco guys, were the
ones that approached me and wanted to know if I could give them a
hand," Paone said. "I did it more as a favor, you know. It's one of
those things when somebody is the head, and packs that much power and
asks you for a favor, it's kind of hard to say no."
---
JUST IN CASE
****************
Paone said his name was on file at Veco because he had worked as a
carpenter remodeling a Veco office building in Anchorage several years
before.
---
He had also remodeled the basement of the home of Veco's chief
financial officer, Roger Chan. Chan and Allen both asked him to work
on Stevens' home, he said.
---
Chan didn't return a phone call seeking comment and Veco's lawyer, Amy
Menard, said the company's agreement to cooperate with federal
authorities barred her and officials from talking.
---
Like Hannah, Paone said he didn't know who botched the framing. "My
understanding is that there was just a bunch of guys trying to do it
on a weekend basis, and mostly they were friends of the senator's or
something," he said. "But they didn't know what they were doing and
they were so far behind that there was absolutely no way they could
have completed it by late
October, early November," he said.
---
Paone took over the framing and completed the interior walls, some of
the cabinetry in the kitchen, the insulation and painting. He
purchased the supplies and sent invoices for materials and labor to
Stevens.
---
Paone said he couldn't recall the names of other tradesmen who worked
on the project -- electricians, plumbers and a mechanical contractor
who installed a new gas furnace and the forced-air heating system.
---
A neighbor said someone brought over a crane to hoist Stevens'
barbecue grill to the second floor deck. Another neighbor said a
cherry picker showed up to install decorative lights on the eaves.
---
Paone said that by the time he finished his work in late October or
early November, he had sent Stevens more than $100,000 in invoices for
his own work.
---
Paone said he charged normal rates but was uncomfortable with the
arrangements because he hadn't provided an estimate before starting
the work. He said he protected himself by retaining all the records on
the project.
---
"I didn't suspect anything, but I just wanted to make sure," he said.
"When you work with a house of a legislator or a senator, you make
sure you hold on to all the billings, just in case something happens."
---
Current city property records show the 10-room home contains 2,471
square feet of living space. With its quarter-acre lot, its assessed
value for 2007 is $440,900.
---
'A VERY SAD SITUATION'
Last year, some six years after the project was completed, Paone said,
"the FBI came over to me and I gave them all the paperwork I had on
it."
---
When he was questioned by the FBI, he said, agents seemed particularly
interested in Veco and its officials. The government already had
copies of most of his invoices on the Stevens home, having obtained
them from Veco files, he said.
---
Paone said he followed that up by testifying before a federal grand
jury in December.
---
About a year ago, Hannah, the house mover, came to work at his yard in
South Anchorage and found an FBI agent's card on his office door, he
said. When he called the agent, he was told the government was going
to subpoena his records on the project. He said he sent his father
downtown with all the files. He hasn't gotten them back, he said.
---
He said Catherine Stevens had paid his bill with a check, but he said
it happened too long ago to remember details.
---
The contractor who did earth-moving for the project, Bob Redmond of
Girdwood, also provided his records to the FBI, according to Jean
Redmond, his stepmother. She also said the bills were paid by Stevens.
---
Paone said that as far as he knows, Stevens paid every invoice sent to
him.
---
"Now, I'm not sure if everything was given to him," Paone said. "It's
just that he was never around. He didn't know what was going on. My
personal opinion is that if he got something for nothing, he
absolutely didn't know about it."
---
Persons, of the Double Musky, said he believes Stevens has done
nothing wrong, though he was unable to say what he knows.
---
"It's a very sad situation," he said during the brief interview
outside a bank in South Anchorage. "I have to tell you that my
attorneys have told me not to talk to anyone. And I can't even talk to
my friends. Anybody. I can't talk to anybody."
---
Persons said he didn't think he was in any legal trouble. "I don't
know why I would be," he said.
"To me, it's a tragic situation," Persons added. "I don't think Sen.
Stevens has done anything wrong and I don't know what's going on. I
think it's a witch hunt."
----
Contact reporter Richard Mauer at 257-4345 or at rma...@adn.com. ?

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Jun 16, 2007, 2:56:39 PM6/16/07
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THIS IS ANOTHER ADN "BAD REPORTING" ARTICLE, I.E. AT FIRST READING IT
APPEARS THAT BILL ALLEN OF VECO PLED GUILTY, BUT THEN THE OTHER
SENTENCE SHOWING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT DOES NOT SAY WHO PLED.
--
NOR, DOES IT SAY WHY STEVENS ASK FOR THE EXTENSION TO FILE HIS
DISCLOSURE STATEMENT, EVEN THO HE IS BEING INVESTIGATED, I.E. "IF"
STEVENS HAD HONESTLY DIVULGED ALL OF HIS ASSETS, ETC. HE SHOULDN'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
--
BUT, IF HE INTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT SOME ASSETS ON HIS REPORTING, HE
COULD USE THIS EXTENSION TO "SEE WHAT THE FBI HAS FOUND", THEN REPORT
THESE ASSETS.
--
ALL IN ALL, ANOTHER VAGUE ARTICLE BY ADN, WHICH ALTHOUGH A LIBERAL
PAPER, AND HAS INTENTIONALLY COVERED UP GOV. KNOWLES' ILLEGAL ACTS,
DOESN'T WANT THE POWERFUL TED STEVENS & CO. SUEING THE PAPER.
--
IF ALASKANS "REALLY" WANTED THE STATE'S LARGEST PAPER TO MAKE TRUTHFUL
AND COMPLETE REPORTS, THEY WOULD DEMAND THAT ADN BE DROPPED AS "THE
ONLY PAPER" WHICH CAN PUBLISH "ALL STATE ITEMS FOR PUBLICATIONS/
NOTICES OF WHICH ADN RECEIVES "AT LEAST $360,000" A YEAR, I.E. THE AK.
ADMINISTRATION CODE REQUIRES THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS OF ALL AGENCY
HEARINGS, ETC. THIS COULD BE DONE VIA THE SMALL NEWSPAPERS IN EACH
CITY/VILLAGE WHICH WOULD KEEP THESE PAPERS ALIVE, THUS PROVIDING "MORE
FREE SPEECH", NOT TOTALLY POLITICALLY BIASED REPORTING LIKE THE ADN
DOES.
---
AS PROOF OF THIS, I HAD CONTACTED ADN RE GOV. KNOWLES' ILLEGAL DENIAL
OF FOOD STAMPS TO 45,000 ALASKAN FAMILIES, WHICH ILLEGAL DENIALS I GOT
STOPPED BY CALLING THE FEDERAL AGRICULTURE'S INSPECTOR GENERAL, WHO
CONTACTED THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ORDERING THEM TO ISSUE THESE FOOD
STAMPS.
--
SINCE ADN DID NOT CONTACT ME AND THE ARTICLE WAS NEVER PUBLISHED, I
CALLED THE ADN REPORTER AND DEMANDED AN EXPLANATION FOR HIS REFUSAL TO
PUBLISH AND HE STATED:
"THIS IS TOO POLITICAL" AND THAT "WE" DECIDE WHAT ARTICLES WE WILL
PUBLISH, NOT THE PEOPLE.
--
I THEN CONTACTED THE EDITOR OF ADN IN SACRAMENTO AND ABOUT A WEEK
LATER, THERE WAS A STORY PUBLISHED THAT THE HEAD OFFICE OF MCCLATCHY
HAD ARRIVED IN ANCHORAGE AND "THE EDITOR FOR ADN" WAS REPLACED.
--
BUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, ADN IS STILL COVERING UP OR DUMBING DOWN THEIR
ARTICLES, THUS ADN SHOULD BE REMOVED AS THE "PAPER OF CHOICE" FOR
THESE STATE NOTICES, ETC.
--
Subject:6-15-07-
Sen. Stevens Gets Delay On Financial Disclosure
---
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/14/AR2007061402514_pf.html
>
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THIS IS ANOTHER ADN "BAD REPORTING" ARTICLE, I.E. AT FIRST READING IT
APPEARS THAT BILL ALLEN OF VECO PLED GUILTY, BUT THEN THE OTHER
SENTENCE SHOWING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT DOES NOT SAY WHO PLED.
> --
NOR, DOES IT SAY WHY STEVENS ASK FOR THE EXTENSION TO FILE HIS
DISCLOSURE STATEMENT, EVEN THO HE IS BEING INVESTIGATED, I.E.

---


"IF"STEVENS HAD HONESTLY DIVULGED ALL OF HIS ASSETS, ETC. HE SHOULDN'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
> --
BUT, IF HE INTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT SOME ASSETS ON HIS REPORTING, HE
COULD USE THIS EXTENSION TO "SEE WHAT THE FBI HAS FOUND", THEN REPORT
THESE ASSETS.
> --
ALL IN ALL, ANOTHER VAGUE ARTICLE BY ADN, WHICH ALTHOUGH A LIBERAL
PAPER, AND HAS INTENTIONALLY COVERED UP GOV. KNOWLES' ILLEGAL ACTS,
DOESN'T WANT THE POWERFUL TED STEVENS & CO. SUEING THE PAPER.
> --
IF ALASKANS "REALLY" WANTED THE STATE'S LARGEST PAPER TO MAKE TRUTHFUL
AND COMPLETE REPORTS, THEY WOULD DEMAND THAT ADN BE DROPPED AS "THE
ONLY PAPER" WHICH CAN PUBLISH "ALL STATE ITEMS FOR PUBLICATIONS/
NOTICES OF WHICH ADN RECEIVES "AT LEAST $360,000" A YEAR, I.E. THE AK.
ADMINISTRATION CODE REQUIRES THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS OF ALL AGENCY
HEARINGS, ETC.

---


THIS COULD BE DONE VIA THE SMALL NEWSPAPERS IN EACH

CITY/VILLAGE WHICH AD MONEY WOULD KEEP THESE PAPERS ALIVE, THUS


PROVIDING "MORE
FREE SPEECH", NOT TOTALLY POLITICALLY BIASED REPORTING LIKE THE ADN
DOES.
> ---
AS PROOF OF THIS, I HAD CONTACTED ADN RE GOV. KNOWLES' ILLEGAL DENIAL
OF FOOD STAMPS TO 45,000 ALASKAN FAMILIES, WHICH ILLEGAL DENIALS I GOT
STOPPED BY CALLING THE FEDERAL AGRICULTURE'S INSPECTOR GENERAL, WHO
CONTACTED THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ORDERING THEM TO ISSUE THESE FOOD
STAMPS.
> --
SINCE ADN DID NOT CONTACT ME AND THE ARTICLE WAS NEVER PUBLISHED, I
CALLED THE ADN REPORTER AND DEMANDED AN EXPLANATION FOR HIS REFUSAL TO
PUBLISH AND HE STATED:

--


"THIS IS TOO POLITICAL" AND THAT "WE" DECIDE WHAT ARTICLES WE WILL
PUBLISH, NOT THE PEOPLE.
> --

I THEN CONTACTED THE EDITOR OF MCCLATCHY WHICH OWNS THE ADN (IN
SACRAMENTO) AND ABOUT A WEEK LATER, THERE WAS A STORY PUBLISHED THAT


THE HEAD OFFICE OF MCCLATCHY HAD ARRIVED IN ANCHORAGE AND "THE EDITOR

FOR ANCHORAGE-ADN" WAS REPLACED.


> --
BUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, ADN IS STILL COVERING UP OR DUMBING DOWN THEIR
ARTICLES, THUS ADN SHOULD BE REMOVED AS THE "PAPER OF CHOICE" FOR
THESE STATE NOTICES, ETC.
> --
Subject:6-15-07-
Sen. Stevens Gets Delay On Financial Disclosure
> ---
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/14/AR2007061402514_pf.html
> >
> --

++++
CORRECTION-UPDATE
--
I SEE THAT THE ADN ARTICLE HAS CHANGED SINCE YESTERDAY AND THE BRIBERY
AMOUNT WAS CHANGED TO $400,000.
--
OPEN THE ABOVE URL TO GO TO SEVERAL LINKS THAT PROVIDE A LOT MORE
INFO. HERE IS THE URL FOR THE LINK "STEVENS" WHERE YOU CAN GET A LOT
MORE INFO.
---
YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THIS URL FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
--
Subject:
Ted Stevens | Congress votes database | washingtonpost.com
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http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/s000888/ >
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Sara

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Jun 18, 2007, 6:19:15 PM6/18/07
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OBVIOUSLY BUSH IS GIVING DISTANCE BETWEEN STEVENS AND THE FBI, AT A
TIME WHEN STEVENS IS NEEDED FOR CRITICAL CONGRESSIONAL VOTES.
--
SINCE BILL ALLEN, OWNER OF VECO, HAS PLED GUILITY TO BRIBERY AND IS
LOOKING AT MANY YEARS IN PRISON, HE IS WORKING WITH FBI IN ORDER TO
SHORTEN HIS SENTENCE.
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THE QUESTION NOW IS: WILL BILL ALLEN EXPOSE THE STEVEN'S CORRUPTION TO
SAVE HIMSELF? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, WILL STEVENS "STAY IN EUROPE"?
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Subject:6-17-07-
Grand Jury Examines GOP Senator Stevens's Ties to Veco
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061807B.shtml
>
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Sara

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Jul 9, 2007, 8:39:51 PM7/9/07
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WE NEED MORE..CLEAN HOUSE..LEAVE THE MICE AND TAKE THE RATS.
--
ANOTHER POLITICIAN THAT COULDN'T MAKE A LIVING "HONESTLY"; THOSE THAT
CAN USE THEIR OFFICE TO GET THESE KICK BACKS OR PASS LAWS THAT BENEFIT
THEM. BUT HEY, ALASKANS DON'T CARE. THEY CAN'T BE BOTHERED WITH WHAT
THEIR GOVT. IS DOING, THUS THEY DESERVE THE CORRUPT GOVT. THEY GOT.
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Subject:7-09-07-
LESIL MCQUIRE'S HUSBAND-Former AK lawmaker guilty of bribery
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4954409.html
>
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Rico

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Aug 16, 2007, 6:21:48 PM8/16/07
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HOPEFULLY ALASKANS WILL BE WAKING UP TO THE FACT THAT THEIR SO-CALLED
POLITICAL LEADERS, HAVE BEEN RAPING THEIR ALASKA TREASURY FOR DECADES
AND THAT "IT IS WAY PAST TIME FOR THEM TO ORDER A "SPECIAL
INVESTIGATION" INTO THE MANY PHONY ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE THE ONE BELOW,
TO SEE WHERE BILLIONS OF ALASKAN'S MONEY IS GOING.
--
I REQUESTED AND RECEIVED THE FULL ALASKA BUDGET BACK IN 1997 VIA THE
L.I.O. AND SAW MANY OF THESE ILLEGAL AGENCIES WERE SET UP, SUCH AS THE
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AGENCY AND THE L.I.O.'S WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY SET
UP SO ALASKANS, NOT PRIVATE ORG. AND POLITICIANS COULD USE THE
TELECONFERENCE EQUIPMENT.
--
THE "LAW" (ADMINISTRATIVE CODE) REQUIRES ACTUAL LAWS TO SET THESE
AGENCIES UP SO THE MONEY THAT GOES TO THEM CAN BE TRACKED. WHEN I
QUESTIONED THE L.A.A. ABOUT THIS, I WAS SUDDENLY SHUT OFF ANY BILLS
AND TESTIMONY ON HEARINGS.
--
WHILE THOUSANDS OF ALASKANS ARE ILLEGALLY BEING DENIED THE DESPERATE
SERVICES SUCH AS MEDICAID AND FOOD STAMPS IN RURAL ALASKA WHERE THERE
"ARE NO JOBS IN THE WINTER", THE CORPORATE WELFARE ROLLS GET LONGER
AND RICHER.
--
IT'S TRULY HILARIOUS THAT THE MAJORITY OF ALASKANS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT ANY OF THIS ROBBERY, BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST TOO STUPID AND LAZY
TO QUESTION "WHERE THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE GOING EACH YEAR, WHEN
THE POPULATION OF ALASKA IS ONLY ABOUT 650,000.
--
YET THINK THEY ARE SO SMART WHEN THEY TELL ME THAT "ANYONE WHO NEEDS
THESE SERVICES ARE WELFARE QUEENS".
---
YEP, ALASKANS ARE TRULY THE MOST CLUELESS OF ANY PEOPLE IN ANY STATE,
WHO THINK THE CRUMBS THEY GET IN THEIR PFD'S IS SO GREAT, WHILE THE
CORRUPT POLITICIANS HAVE FREE REIN OVER THE MULTI-BILLIONS THAT ARE IN
THE PERMANENT FUND, ALMOST NONE OF WHICH IS "INVESTED IN ALASKA SO
THEY COULD GET YEAR ROUND EMPLOYMENT", WHICH IS WHY "THE KIDS" LEAVE
ALASKA.
--
IF THE NEW GOVERNOR HAD ANY REAL INTEREST IN THIS POLITICAL CORRUPTION
AND RAPING OF THE TREASURY, SHE WOULD DEMAND A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION
INTO THE ALASKA BUDGET BY A "SPECIAL ACCOUNTANT" WHO HAS NO TIES TO
ALASKA.
--
THE FBI INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE STEVEN'S FAMILY POLITICAL CORRUPTION
SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY DONE. THEY ARE JUST GETTING AT THE TIP OF THIS
HUGE SLIME PIT.
---
ALASKANS TRULY DESERVE THESE POLITICAL PARASITES BECAUSE THEY HAVE
DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SHOW THEY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEIR THIRD-
WORLD FASCIST GOVT.
$;D
---
Subject:8-16-07-FBI Probes Contracts to ALASKA Company With Ties to
Stevens
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081607H.shtml
>
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Rico

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Aug 16, 2007, 8:32:05 PM8/16/07
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++++++++++
HOW INTERESTING IT WOULD BE IF RUSSIA AND SOME OF THEIR FRIENDS WOULD
DECIDE TO PULL FASCIST BUSH REGIME ACT AND INVADE ALASKA FOR IT'S OIL.
--
AS THE OLD ADAGE GOES, "WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND" AND NOW THE
RUSSIANS HAVE THEIR SUBMARINES OFF OF PRUDHOE BAY AND A RUSSIAN FLAG
BURIED IN THE ARCTIC, DECLARING THAT "IT BELONGS TO RUSSIA".
---
AS WE KNOW, MUCH OF ALASKA HASN'T EVEN BEEN EXPLORED FOR OIL ON THE
FED LANDS.
---
IT HAS BEEN SO EASY TO LIE TO AMERICANS ABOUT ALL OF THE GLOBAL
TERRORISTS WHICH ALLOWS THESE FASCIST POLITICIANS TO INVADE, OCCUPY
AND MURDER THE PEOPLE IN "OTHER COUNTRIES" SO THEY CAN ROB THEIR OIL
FIRST. THE "CASPIAN SEA" MENTIONED HERE IS WHERE THE OIL IS COMING
FROM AND WHY BUSH INVADED AFGHANISTAN, I.E. HE NEEDED OIL PIPELINES
BUILT..NOT BIN LADEN AND HE GOT THE PIPELINE SOON AFTER THE COUNTRY
WAS BOMBED TO RUMBLE.
---
IT APPEARS BIN LADEN "GOT THOUSANDS OF MORE SOLDIERS TO KILL OURS
WHICH ARE GUARDING THE OIL PIPELINE. YEP, I WOULD SAY THAT ALASKA
COULD VERY WELL BE "GROUND ZERO" NOW.
---
Subject:8-16-07-CASPIAN SEA OIL-Entering the Tough Oil Era
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081607D.shtml
>
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Jan Flora

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Aug 17, 2007, 7:51:31 AM8/17/07
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Hi Sylvia. It's been quiet around here with you gone.

Jan


In article <1187302908.8...@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

Gary

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Aug 17, 2007, 4:03:15 PM8/17/07
to
Jan Flora wrote:
>
> Hi Sylvia. It's been quiet around here with you gone.

Said the spider to the fly! ;-D

Jan Flora

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Aug 18, 2007, 1:52:14 PM8/18/07
to
In article <46C5FF65...@worldnet.att.net>,
Gary <g.ma...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Busted... *laugh*

Example

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Aug 22, 2007, 2:03:16 PM8/22/07
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MAYBE YOU CAN FIND ACA OUT THERE &;D
---
Subject:8-20-07-ABC News: Google Sky: View of the Universe at Your
Fingertips
---
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3509522
>
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Rico

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Aug 31, 2007, 3:28:49 PM8/31/07
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IT APPEARS THAT ALASKANS "LIKE" EATING AND DRINKING FROM TOILETS,
OTHERWISE, ALASKANS "WOULD HAVE DEMANDED AN INVESTIGATION OF WHERE
MULTI-MILLIONS OF FED MONEY WENT WHICH WAS SENT TO CLEAN THESE UP.
--
BUT, OF COURSE, ALASKAN'S MOST POWERFUL U.S. SENATOR, TED STEVENS, WHO
SAT ON THE POWERFUL U.S. SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, WHERE THESE
MULTI-MILLIONS CAME FROM, IS JUST NOW BEING INVESTIGATED FOR HIS
DECADES OF CORRUPTION, SO HE IS PROBABLY TOO BUSY RIGHT NOW TRYING TO
SAVE HIS OWN ASS.
---
WHAT THIS ONE ISSUE DOES PROVE IS:
--
ALASKANS "DON'T HAVE" ANY PRIVATE WATCHDOG ORGANIZATION OR ADVOCATE TO
INVESTIGATE SUCH ISSUES AND CLEARLY ARE TOO LAZY TO EVEN DEMAND FROM
THEIR SO-CALLED STATE LEGISLATORS, A FULL ACCOUNTING OF THESE MULTI-
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THESE ALLEGED CLEANUPS.
--
PERHAPS UNCLE TED AND HIS LOYAL AND GREEDY FRIENDS WHO SIT AS STATE
LEGISLATORS FOR ONLY 3 MONTHS OUT OF A YEAR, SPLIT UP THIS MONEY FOR
THEMSELVES.
--
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S PRIORITIES ARE:
--
(1) SMALL GOVERNMENT, SO THEY CAN CONTROL IT, I.E.
--
(2) PRO-CORPORATE WELFARE AND
---
ANTI-HUMAN WELFARE TO PROVIDE THE BASIC SURVIVAL NEEDS FOR THE WORKING-
POOR ALASKANS,
>
WHICH APPARENTLY ALSO INCLUDES THE KILLING OF FISH AND PEOPLE, DUE TO
THESE DECADES OLD, BUT STILL LETHAL TOXIC SITES.
--
THE FACT THAT THE ANCHORAGE AND JUNEAU LIO OFFICES STAY OPEN ALL YEAR
ROUND (OR USED TOO) AND THE ANNUAL ALASKA BUDGETS CAN BE FOUND THERE
AND SHOULD SHOW THESE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FED APPROPRIATIONS "WITH"
AN OUTLINE OF WHERE THIS MONEY WAS SENT,
--
YET TWO OF THE MOST VOCAL WHINERS WHO POST IN ACA, WOULD RATHER USE
THEIR TIME:
--
FLAMING OTHER POSTERS OR POSTING MUNDANE SUBJECTS, INSTEAD OF READING
THE FEW PAGES OF THE "ALASKA BUDGET", AND TO "FOLLOW THE MONEY" IS A
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY ALASKA IS SO WEALTHY BUT THE MAJORITY OF
ALASKANS LIVE IN GROSS POVERTY IN THIS THIRD-WORLD FASCIST STATE, I.E.
--
"THE PEOPLE DESERVE THE GOVERNMENT THEY GET".
--
AND IN ALASKA, THE YOUNG ALASKANS ARE LEAVING IT TO GO TO COLLEGE AND
HAVE THEIR CAREERS IN THE LOWER 49, WHICH LEAVES ALASKA WITH THE OLD-
RETIRED-&-RETARDED AS IT'S RESIDENTS OF WHICH THE MAJORITY DON'T EVEN
BOTHER TO VOTE.
--
AND "THOSE WHO HAVE THE WELL-PAID JOBS" ARE CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES OF
LARGE CORPORATIONS, NOT ALASKANS.
--
I JUST WONDER WHAT ALASKA'S FIRST WOMAN GOVERNOR, ALBEIT ANOTHER
REPUBLICAN, WOULD SAY IF SHE RECEIVED THIS ARTICLE?
---
Subject:8-27-07-
Alaska Sees Cutbacks in Pentagon Funding for Cleanups
--
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/083007EB.shtml
>
--

Rico

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Aug 31, 2007, 4:07:44 PM8/31/07
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+++++++++++++++++
HOW ABSOLUTELY TIMELY IS THE FOLLOWING "ALASKA TRIVIA" POST FROM
BOOKBURN, WHICH WAS POSTED JUST 7 MINUTES BEFORE I POSTED MY ARTICLE.
--
IRONICALLY, BB PROVES MY POINT RE ALASKAN'S MENTALITY RE THEIR
PRIORITIES.
--
SINCE BB DIDN'T GIVE ANY REASON FOR HIS STATEMENTS ABOUT STUPID AND
SUICIDAL LEMMINGS, I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT HE IS LINKING ALASKAN'S
MENTALITY TO THOSE OF LEMMINGS, IF SO, HE MADE A GOOD COMPARISON WHICH
CLEARLY INCLUDES HIMSELF. &;D
---
(PRINT VERSION)
>
alt.culture.alaska
Alaska trivia
bookb...@yahoo.com
>
I have a couple trivial Alaska thoughts I don't know what to do with,
so I'll dump them here.
>
1. I have in my coin collection a couple strange Alaska pieces. ?
>
One is apparently a '40s-'50s era trading coin naming some Anchorage
4th
Avenue bar, evidently good for a drink, or something. >?
I lost track of
where I put it, but remember that it was fairly common for Alaska
businesses to advertise in that way during Territorial days.
>
I like to remember Territorial days anyway I can. ?
>
Did you know they
used to land private planes on the Park Strip in Anchorage?
>
2. ?It may be a trivial idea, but I bet tourists and collectors, maybe
even investors, would go for a gold coin celebrating Alaska, maybe
along the lines of the Canadian Gold Maple Leaf, if I have it right.
>
Not sure of the legalities of Alaska minting money, but maybe a
medallion in gold worth $100.
>
3. ?I stumbled across a reference to "lemmings," those little rodents
that have the urban legend of all migrating at the same time to jump
off a cliff into the ocean. ?
>
There's a good article on this in my favorite encyclopedia, Wikipedia,
at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmingknow, where a natural historian
named "Ole Worm" describes lemmings. ?
>
I would like to invite Ole Worm, if that's his name, to come to
Alaska. ?
>
Reminds me of the famous Alaska "Ice Worm," too. ?
>
Also, a place named "Lemming, Alaska", has a nice ring to it. ?
>
Maybe the
Anchorage Airport could be re-named Lemming Airport because it's
located at the edge of a cliff, and because we are hearing too much
about Stevens these days. ?
>
Don't know if the lemming is featured in the airport's display of
Alaska species, but it should be.
>
So that's me trivia for today. ? bookburn

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Rico

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Sep 15, 2007, 7:30:41 PM9/15/07
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I DO HOPE THE FBI DOES A THOROUGH SEARCH OF THESE GUYS BECAUSE THEY
HAVE BEEN AT THE ALASKA TROUGH FOR DECADES, THIS CASE IS JUST THE MOST
RECENT.
--
THIS "SHOULD BE A LESSON TO ALL ALASKANS", I.E. THE SESSIONS SHOULD BE
LONGER, NOT SHORTER, AND THE SALARIES LESS, NOT MORE. THIS WOULD
ELIMINATE THOSE WHO ARE JUST IN OFFICE TO MAKE OR REPEAL LAWS THAT...
"BENEFIT THE CORPORATION WELFARE", WHILE ILLEGALLY DENYING ALASKANS
WHO ARE CONSTANTLY LAID-OFF (SEASONAL WORK) WITH THE MOST BASIC OF
SURVIVAL SERVICES, I.E. FOOD STAMPS, LOWER RENT AND HEALTH SERVICES.
--
THERE ARE MANY RETIRED ATTORNEYS AND JUDGES WHO ALASKANS SHOULD
CONTACT IN ORDER TO SETUP A NON-PROFIT ALASKAN ORGANIZATION THAT
FIGHTS THIS CORRUPTION AND GETS THEIR RIGHTFUL BENEFITS.
--
I CHECKED AND RECEIVED A BOOKLET THAT WAS USED TO DESCRIBE THE "CIVIL
GRAND JURY" OF WHICH MANY STATES HAVE IMPLEMENTED VIA A LAW.
--
THE CIVIL GRAND JURIES ARE SETUP FOR CITIZENS WHO NEED HELP TO SUE
CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS.
--
THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THESE JURIES ARE THE SAME TYPE USED TO SERVE
ON CRIMINAL GRAND JURIES, I.E. "THE CITIZEN". THEY USUALLY SERVE FOR
ONE YEAR AND ARE PAID EXPENSES.
--
THEY ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED IN ALASKA, IF ONLY ALASKANS WOULD CARE
ENOUGH ABOUT SOMEONE OTHER THEMSELVES. (GOOGLE- CIVIL GRAND JURY TO
GET MORE INFO) &;D
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Subject:9-15-07-
---
Oil Exec Admits to Bribing GOP Lawmaker
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091507G.shtml
>
--

Rico

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Sep 17, 2007, 12:58:42 AM9/17/07
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DYSON HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY DICEY, I.E. I SUSPECT THAT HE WAS INVOLVED
IN ALL OF THIS CORRUPTION AND WAS GIVEN IMMUNITY IF HE WOULD OUT THE
OTHERS.
--
HOPEFULLY, SOMEONE WILL OUT DYSON.
--
THE BRAIN-DEAD VIC KOHERING HAS BEEN OUTED.
---
Subject:9-16-07-
--
X-AK lawmaker says prosecutors pressured him to plead guilty
--
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=7081990&ClientType=Printable
>

Rico

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Sep 17, 2007, 1:06:12 AM9/17/07
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I LOVE THIS STUFF..MORE PLEASE.&;D
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(INCOMPLETE REPORT, I.E. NOTHING ABOUT RECORDINGS & WITNESSES IN IT.)
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Subject:9-16-07- Kott attorney tries to make inroads vs. recordings,
witnesses
--
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=7082503&ClientType=Printable
>

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Rico

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Sep 17, 2007, 3:33:57 AM9/17/07
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Subject: LET'S TALK ABOUT OIL & NEW LAWS YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HEAR
ABOUT
---
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE "NEW GOOGLE UNIVERSE MAP" SO YOU CAN FIND
THESE LOCATIONS.
--
Subject:Google Sky: View the Universe
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3509522
>
----
Subject: WEBSITE OF GLOBAL- Gas & Oil Connections
?--
http://www.gasandoil.com/
>
---
Subject: --2-05-07-
--
>From Afghanistan to Iraq: Connecting the Dots With Oil
--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020707P.shtml
---
Subject:--5-14-02- BUSH THREATENS BIN LADEN/TALIBAN WITH WAR RE
BUILDING OIL PIPELINES THRU AFGHANISTAN
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/05.15A.WRP.Hell.5.htm
----
Subject:--2-12-98-
--
CONGRESSIONAL HEARING RE UNOCAL OIL WANTING U.S. MILITARY TO INVADE
AFGHAN SO THEY COULD BUILD OIL PIPELINE FROM CASPIAN SEA THRU
AFGHANISTAN-
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CRG -- Hearing On US Interests In The Central Asian Republics
--
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CON110A.html
>
---
Subject: IRAQ OIL ROBBERY-
Whose Oil Is It, Anyway?-3-15-07
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031507P.shtml
>
---
Subject: 8-11-07-
--
OIL IN THE ARCTIC SEA-
---
The Arctic for Everyone
--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081307G.shtml
>
---
Subject: 9-14-07-BBC NEWS
--
Warming 'opens Northwest Passage'
---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6995999.stm
>
---
Subject: 8-16-07- Entering the Tough Oil Era
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081607D.shtml
>
---
Subject:--8-20-07-
---
OIL-The Rise of a Multipolar World
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/082007F.shtml
>
---
Subject: 9-10-07-
--
Conservatives Mobilize Against Law of the Sea Treaty -
---
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22292
>
--
Subject: 7-20-07-
---
SHELL ORDERED TO STOP DRILLING FOR OIL IN THE ARCTIC
---
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.culture.alaska/msg/35bbf1e6f47ecc41?dmode=print
>
---
Subject: 5-14-07-
---
The world government Law of the Sea treaty: it's
baaaaack!
---
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/070514
>
---
Subject:
---
THE U.N.-Oceans and Law of the Sea
--
http://www.un.org/Depts/los/index.htm
>
---
Subject:--4-02-07-
---
Subject: Law of the Sea Treaty | UNAUSA.org
--
http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpF&b=480227
>
---
Subject:The Law of the Sea Treaty
--
http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/wm470.cfm
>
-
Subject:--
---
UN Convention on the Law of the Sea | UNAUSA.org
--
http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpF&b=328817
>
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Subject:--United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea
>
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Subject:--Alaska's Top 10 stories of 2006:
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BP catastrophes on North Slope
---
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=5848320&nav=menu510_2_5
>
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Subject:6-22-07-
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OIL-Senate Passes Energy Bill
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062207L.shtml
>
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Rico

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AS I HAVE SAID AT LEAST 100 TIMES IN THIS GROUP:
--
ALASKA IS THE MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE NATION, WHICH "TIP" OF THE
ICEBERG IS FINALLY BEING SCRATCHED.
---
NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN HURT MORE IN ALASKA THEN "THE WORKING POOR, I.E.
THOSE WHO ARE PAID MINIMUM WAGE AND NOT A "LIVING WAGE" AND WHO ARE
USUALLY LAID OFF WHEN THE TOURISTS LEAVE.
--
MY RESEARCH UP TO 2000 PROVED, THE STATE OF ALASKA HAS HAD AN "ANNUAL
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF ABOUT 9%, WITH MANY SMALL CITIES WITH
UNEMPLOYMENT RUNNING FROM 12% TO 50%, BUT THE DEPT. OF LABOR
INTENTIONALLY SKEWS THE TRUTH OF THIS DATA SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY
THE MANDATED FEDERAL LAW FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, WHICH IS SUPPOSE
TO START AS SOON AS THE STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HITS 6%.
--
OTHER DESPERATELY NEEDED SERVICES ARE ALSO TIED TO THE STATE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE LIKE FOOD STAMPS AND A FEDERAL PROGRAM TO HELP PAY
FOR HEAT DURING THE WINTER TIME.
--
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS ARTICLE (BELOW), NOW THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME IS
"NOT GOING TO FULLY FUND THIS HEATING FUEL PROGRAM, IN FACT BUSH SAYS
HE WILL VETO ANY BILL ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
--
I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND IT UNBELIEVABLE, BUT TRUE, THAT STATES WHICH HAVE
A "LOT OF A RESOURCE" REFUSES TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE TO THEIR OWN
RESIDENTS, I.E. MONTANA WHICH IS A HUGE CATTLE PRODUCER, YET SELLS
IT'S BEEF FOR MORE MONEY THEN THE OTHER STATES; AND OF COURSE, ALASKA
WHICH HAS A LOT OF FUEL AND A REFINERY, REFUSES TO GIVE ALASKANS A
DISCOUNT.
--
BUT, LIKE THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME, WHICH HAS GIVEN THE "RICHEST
ASSHOLES A HUGE TAX BREAK", WHILE ROBBING THE AMERICAN TREASURY TO PAY
FOR TWO ILLEGAL WARS (BOTH FOR OIL) THEN REFUSES TO PROVIDE HEALTH
CARE FOR CHILDREN FROM POOR FAMILIES AND NOW THIS HEATING FUEL
PROGRAM.
---
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE HUGE PROTESTS BY AMERICAN CITIZENS AGAINST THE
REFUSAL TO PROVIDE CHILD HEALTH CARE, WHICH THE REPUB CANDIDATES ARE
NOW BEING CONFRONTED WITH AND THEIR PARTY WILL PAY FOR IT AND NOW THIS
HEATING PROGRAM DURING THE UP-COMING ELECTIONS.
--
MANY OF THE INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS ARE NOW LEAVING THE GOP BECAUSE
BUSH'S REGIME IS OBVIOUSLY HELL-BENT ON DESTROYING THE REPUB PARTY SO
THEY WON'T HAVE TO WASTE MONEY BY RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE CONFRONTED BY REPUBLICAN WORKERS, WHO ARE
CLEARLY SO STUPID TO BELONG TO THIS PARTY WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY "ONLY FOR
EMPLOYERS", NOT THE WORKERS.
--
AS STUPID AS THE NATION'S REPUBLICAN WORKERS ARE WHO VOTED FOR REPUB
CANDIDATES WHO COULDN'T CARELESS ABOUT THEIR LIVES, SO ARE ALASKANS OF
"BOTH" POLITICAL PARTIES, I.E. THERE IS "NO DIFFERENCE" BETWEEN
ALASKAN POLITICIANS PARTIES, I.E. THEY HAVE BOTH ROBBED THE MULTI-
BILLION DOLLAR PERMANENT FUND CORPORATION TREASURY, YET HAS REFUSED TO
"INVEST IN ANYTHING "IN" ALASKA IN ORDER TO PROVIDE INDUSTRIES THAT
COULD PROVIDE YEAR ROUND WORK AND INSTEAD, HAS "INVESTED ALASKAN'S
MONEY IN EVERYTHING "OUTSIDE OF" ALASKA.
--
ALASKANS ARE SO DUMB THAT IT HAS BEEN EASY TO CON THEM AND KEEP THEM
QUIET BY GIVING THEM THE CRUMBS OF "THEIR OWN MONEY", AND USE THESE
MULTI-BILLIONS FOR "THEIR OWN BENEFIT". OH YEAH, TRACK DOWN THE OWNERS
OF THE REAL ESTATE AND CORPS THAT IS RECEIVING THIS MONEY.
--
THE FACT AND TRUTH IS, THE PERMANENT FUND WAS SETUP "BY LAW" TO BE
USED FOR "THE BENEFIT OF ALASKANS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY NEED HELP,
I.E. WHICH HAS BEEN NAMED THE SO-CALLED "RAINY DAY FUND".
---
CLEARLY MOST ALASKANS HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND WITH THE WATER UP PAST
THEIR MOUTH AND RUNNING INTO THEIR NOSE FOR DECADES, EXCEPT "ALASKA
STATE EMPLOYEES" WHO ARE COVERING UP THIS CORRUPTION IN ORDER TO KEEP
THEIR GREAT JOBS.
--
PRIVATE COMPANY EMPLOYEES ARE TOO STUPID TO DEMAND THAT THIS FUND BE
USED TO SET UP ALASKA OWNED BUSINESSES.
--
THE "FACT AND TRUTH" IS, THE CORRUPT ALASKA POLITICIANS HAVE LIED
THROUGH THEIR TEETH TO THE FED IRS IN ORDER TO PUT THE PERM.FUND CORP
INTO A "NO CORP TAX PROGRAM", WHEN IT SHOULD BE PAYING ABOUT 35% CORP
TAXES ANNUALLY BECAUSE NONE OF THIS MONEY, EXCEPT THE CRUMBS IS BEING
USED FOR ALASKANS.
--
I WROTE TO ALASKA'S TOP CONGRESSIONAL CROOK, TED STEVENS AND TOLD HIM
I DID MY RESEARCH AND "KNOW" THAT ALASKA'S PFC TAX WAIVER IS A FRAUD.
STEVENS WROTE ME BACK AND "ADMITTED" THAT THE IRS COULD CERTAINLY
DECIDE THAT JUST SENDING ALASKANS A PFD ONCE A YEAR "MAY NOT BE ENOUGH
TO QUALIFY FOR THIS CORP TAX BREAK".
---
YES, I STILL HAVE THIS LETTER AND NOW THAT THE TWO STEVENS' ARE BEFORE
THE FBI, IT WOULD BE VERY TIMELY FOR "THIS ISSUE" TO BE BROUGHT UP BY
THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR PROSECUTION, ALTHOUGH IT (MY LETTER) WILL BE
SENT TO THE DEPT. OF JUSTICE'S INSPECTOR GENERAL, DUE TO PROBABLE
COLLUSION WITH THE U.S. ATTY. IN ALASKA & THE STEVENS'.
---
I HAVE POSTED THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE AND WAITED TO SEE IF ANY ALASKAN
WHO READS OR POSTS HERE WOULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS AND OF COURSE, NO
ONE DID, WHICH AGAIN PROVES THE READERS OF THIS GROUP HAVE A TOTAL
LACK OF CONCERN ABOUT OTHER ALASKANS SINCE "THEY ARE JUST SELF-SERVING
PSYCHOPATHS, MOST OF WHOM ARE EITHER CURRENTLY EMPLOYED OR
RETIRED...ALASKA STATE EMPLOYEES OR PRIVATE CORPS WHICH HAD A
RETIREMENT PROGRAM.
&;D
---
Subject:10-19-07-
---
Government Short Money to Help Poor Pay Heating Bills
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/102107Y.shtml
---

You

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Oct 22, 2007, 3:00:41 PM10/22/07
to
In article <1192998463....@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Rico <ric...@webtv.net> wrote:

drivel snipped, just because....

She is BACK........ Oh, the shame.......

sk8r-365

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Oct 24, 2007, 1:04:49 AM10/24/07
to
Horton heard a Who named Rico saying:

>
> AS I HAVE SAID AT LEAST 100 TIMES IN THIS GROUP:
> --
<snip>

Turn your caps lock off, and I'll read your post.

--
sk8r-365
The U.S. Congress enjoys damaging "big business"
but are themselves building big government!

MUCKRAKER

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Oct 25, 2007, 2:55:01 PM10/25/07
to
IF A CITIZEN BOAT-OWNER SPILLED OIL THEN RAN FROM THE SCENE AND WHEN
CAUGHT..LIED AND COVERED UP THE EVIDENCE...HIS ASS WOULD BE IN JAIL.
--
BUT IN ALASKA, "THE MOST GLARING MODEL" OF THE "CAPITALISTIC-FASCIST
SYSTEM OF OUR U.S. GOVERNMENT"..THERE IS "NO JAIL TIME FOR THE CEO OR
LOSS OF BUSINESS LICENSES..JUST AN IRRELEVANT FINE THAT WON'T AFFECT
THE CORPORATION, IS "HOW OUR U.S. GOVERNMENT DEALS WITH THESE
CRIMINALS".
--
ALASKA IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW OUR SO-CALLED "DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLIC"
WAS DESTROYED AND REPLACED WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE:
--
1) CORRUPT POLITICIANS;
--
2) CORRUPT JUDGES;
--
3) CORPORATE PROSTITUTES; AND
--
4) SELF-SERVING AND GREEDY EMPLOYEES WHO'S ONLY CONCERN IS
"THEMSELVES".
--
OUR U.S. GOVERNMENT OF DEMOCRACY AND "RULE OF LAW" DIED DECADES AGO
AND NOW THE U.S. WILL LOOK LIKE ALASKA, WHERE THE MAJORITY OF
RESIDENTS LIVE IN GROSS POVERTY; THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO MAKE GOOD YEAR
ROUND MONEY WORK EITHER "FOR THE GOVERNMENT OR LARGE CORPORATION",
I.E. "A THIRD-WORLD FASCIST TOTALITARIAN STATE".
--
IT IS TIME FOR ALASKA TO BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND NOT WHAT
THE LOWER 48 DELUSIONALLY THINKS IT IS, DUE TO ALL OF THE PROPAGNDA
THAT IT SPEWS.
--
Subject:10-24-07-
---
Conoco/Philips Unit Fined For Covering Up Oil Spill
---
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710241513DOWJONESDJONLINE000944_FORTUNE5.htm
>
==

MUCKRAKER

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Oct 25, 2007, 7:48:03 PM10/25/07
to
ONLY IN A BLATANTLY OPEN AND PROTECTED FASCIST GOVERNMENT WOULD THE
"TOP COP OF THE U.S.A. (U.S. ATTY. GENERAL) "ADMIT" THAT HE HAS
DISMISSED ALL CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CHARGES AGAINST A HUGE U.K. OIL
CORP., BRITISH PETROLEUM, WHICH VIOLATES EVERY FEDERAL LAW THAT
APPLIES AS WELL AS, CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION RE THE "DUTIES
OF THE OFFICE OF THE ATTY. GENERAL RE PROSECUTING ALL CRIMES".
---
THIS IS CLEAR EVIDENCE FOR THE MOST STUPID AMERICAN THAT THEIR NATION
IS NOW UNDER FULL CONTROL OF THE FASCISTS AND THEIR CONSTITUTION IS
DEAD.
---
Subject:10-25-07-
--
PUBLIC ADMISSION THAT U.S. ATTY. GENERAL DISMISSED BP OIL'S CRIMINAL
CHARGES FOR JUST A FEW MILLION DOLLAR FINES.
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/102507R.shtml
>
--

Rico

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Oct 29, 2007, 3:22:34 PM10/29/07
to
AFTER NEARLY 2O YEARS, THIS CASE IS FINALLY GOING BEFORE THE U.S.
SUPREME COURT, BUT "NOT" FOR THE AWARDING OF THE PREVIOUS COURT'S
AWARD TO ALASKANS, BUT TO HEAR "WHY" EXXON SHOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED A
DEFENDANT IN THE CASE SINCE IT WAS "THEIR SHIP'S CAPT. WHO WAS DRUNK
AND RAN IT AGROUND", I.E.
---
"IT WAS JUST "AN ACCIDENT". HAHAHA
--
OBVIOUSLY THE EXXON CORP. BELIEVES "THEY AREN'T GUILTY" AND BECAUSE
"THIS IS THE ONLY THING THE SUPREME COURT WILL BE DECIDING, IT IS
CLEAR THAT "IT THINKS THIS IS A LEGITIMATE APPEAL" WHEN THIS FLIES IN
THE FACE OF ALL PREVIOUS CASE LAWS.
--
AS SEEN, THE "VICTIMS OF THE SPILL" ARE AGAINST THIS COURT'S DECISION
BASED ON THIS LUDICROUS ISSUE.
--
NOW NOTE: THE CHIEF SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, ALITO..HAS TO STEP DOWN AND
OFF THE CASE BECAUSE OF HIS HUGE STOCK HOLDINGS IN EXXON OIL STOCK.
--
OLD ADAGE:
"YOU DESERVE THE GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE."
---
AND ALASKANS CERTAINLY DESERVE THIS, SINCE THEY REFUSE TO DEMAND THEIR
LEGISLATURE TO "CANCEL ALL CONTRACTS WITH THESE GREEDY OIL CORPS WHO
HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF THIS CORRUPTION, GREED AND VIOLATIONS OF LAWS.
B.P. HAS BEEN PROVING HOW STUPID AND GREEDY ALASKANS ARE FOR DECADES.
--
FACT:
*****'
WITH THE MULTI-"BILLONS" OF DOLLARS THAT HAS ACCUMULATED IN THE
PERMANENT FUND, ALASKANS COULD "OWN THEIR OWN OIL CORP. AND
REFINERIES" AND COULD KEEP "ALL OF THE PROFITS WHILE EMPLOYING
THOUSANDS OF UNEMPLOYED ALASKANS".
--
BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE "INTELLIGENCE" AND ALASKANS CLEARLY
DON'T HAVE IT, I.E. THEY HAVE PROVEN THAT THEY PREFER WHINING LIKE
BABIES WHO JUST WANT THE CRUMBS THAT THEY ARE GIVEN FROM THE PFD WHILE
THEY ROBBED FROM THE MULTI-BILLIONS THEIR CORRUPT POLITICIANS CONTROL.
WHAT A HOOT!
---
Subject:10-29-07-
SUPREME Court to hear Exxon Valdez case
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_exxon_valdez&printer=1;_ylt=An7_3LVKmeZ4iqo0VdhRkV9Aw_IE
>
---

Rico

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Oct 30, 2007, 1:54:09 AM10/30/07
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JACKEL

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Nov 21, 2007, 3:04:03 PM11/21/07
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IT MUST BE NOTED THAT WASHINGTON, D.C. IS "NOT A STATE". IT IS UNDER
FEDERAL JURISDICTION, WHICH MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHILE DEBATING THE
"CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS".
--
FOR INSTANCE, THE RESIDENTS OF D.C. CANNOT VOTE FOR AND HAVE
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATES, I.E. THEY LITERALLY HAVE "TAXATION WITHOUT
REPRESENTATION", WHILE CONSTITUTION MANDATES CONGRESSIONAL
REPRESENTATION FOR "ALL STATES"..AND D.C. "IS NOT A STATE".
--
NOT SURPRISING, THESE TWO ARTICLES DON'T EVEN MENTION THIS.
---
Subject:11-20-07-
---
Supreme Court to Hear DC Gun Ban Case
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112007S.shtml
>
---


sk8r-365

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Nov 21, 2007, 3:18:17 PM11/21/07
to
Horton heard a Who named JACKEL saying:

> IT MUST BE NOTED THAT WASHINGTON, D.C. IS "NOT A STATE". IT IS UNDER
> FEDERAL JURISDICTION, WHICH MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHILE DEBATING THE
> "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS".
> --
> FOR INSTANCE, THE RESIDENTS OF D.C. CANNOT VOTE FOR AND HAVE
> CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATES, I.E. THEY LITERALLY HAVE "TAXATION WITHOUT
> REPRESENTATION", WHILE CONSTITUTION MANDATES CONGRESSIONAL
> REPRESENTATION FOR "ALL STATES"..AND D.C. "IS NOT A STATE".
<snip>

I can't cypher your complaint. Is it that DC is taxed without representation
that disturbs? Is it that only a State can be represented and D.C. is not a
state? Do you want the Nations' seat of power to reside in a State? Or,
is it you think D.C. should have no taxes?

--
sk8r-365
The U.S. government is destroying our freedoms daily
but are themselves enjoying "liberties" at our expense!

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Jan Flora

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Nov 26, 2007, 7:02:51 AM11/26/07
to
In article
<6cd8f2b3-e4be-42eb...@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
JACKEL <jack...@webtv.net> wrote:

There was a floor vote in the US Senate on DC becoming a
state recently. They're talking about it.

sk8r-365

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Nov 26, 2007, 10:20:04 AM11/26/07
to
Horton heard a Who named Jan Flora saying:

> There was a floor vote in the US Senate on DC becoming a
> state recently. They're talking about it.

How'd that turn out? It's foolish to place the seat of the national
government in a State - too much power and influence ... think there's
corruption now?

book...@yahoo.com

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Nov 26, 2007, 11:33:32 AM11/26/07
to
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:02:51 -0900, Jan Flora <snow...@xyz.net>
wrote:

My idea is that D.C. should not become a state but shrink to only
public buildings, letting the rest be part of Maryland, which is a
wonderful state. Perhaps four or five adjoining new cities would
result. That should satisfy those who want the D.C. populace to be
represented in Congress.

At the same time, to accommodate those in the inner city(ies) now part
of D.C., the fed govt should invest in programs that model innovation
for the rest of the states. Should have some a model school system,
library system, health care system, etc., and each state capitol have
similar models, so the rest of the country can imitate some of what
they do.

If the US could be a model before the rest of the world, maybe desired
change could come just from that, assuming our financial and military
support to foreign nations depended on something more ideal than
regime change. What we need is regime change in the US, plus a
Congress that can walk a straight line, a non-ideology driven State
Department, guidelines for our military industrial complex.

Otherwise, I hope D.C. population continues to suffocate the
plantation of bureaucrats there.

bookburn

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Rico

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Nov 26, 2007, 5:47:30 PM11/26/07
to
AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE FOLLOWING URL FOR "NOW"; THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATING ALASKA'S MASSIVE CORRUPTION..SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAVE
THIS SITE.
--
I WATCHED THIS PROGRAM ON 11-23-07 AND AS YOU WILL SEE, "NOW" FOUND A
PHOTOGRAPH OF, NOT ONLY VECO BOSSES, BUT TWO "OTHER CONGRESSMEN", I.E.
SEN.TRENT LOTT WHO IS ALL OVER THE NEWS TODAY, AS RESIGNING, BUT THEY
(MEDIA) DON'T KNOW WHY (HAHA) AND THE HOLIER THAN THOU, REPUB.
CONGRESSMAN CRAIG, WHO WAS CAUGHT IN THE "GAY STING" AT A MINN.
AIRPORT RESTROOM.
---
YEP, AS I STATED "THIS WAS JUST THE TIP OF A HUGE ICEBERG" AND NOW THE
SMELL NOT ONLY FOUND TED STEVENS AND SON, BUT ALSO INCLUDES TWO MORE
U.S. CONGRESSMAN.
------
WATCH THE VIDEO OF PBS'S SHOW AND OPEN LINKS TO THEIR OTHER SHOWS RE
ALASKA CORRUPTION.
---
WHAT I FOUND AS THE HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY IS THE INTERVIEW THEY DID WITH
ADN'S EDITOR--DOUGHTERY (PH) WHO INTENTIONALLY REFUSED TO "OUT KNOWLES
AND HIS CORRUPTION".
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Subject:11-23-07-
Oil, Politics & Bribes . NOW | PBS-VIDEO
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http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/347/index.html
>
---

sk8r-365

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Nov 26, 2007, 10:14:23 PM11/26/07
to
Horton heard a Who named book...@yahoo.com saying:

>
> My idea is that D.C. should not become a state but shrink to only
> public buildings, letting the rest be part of Maryland, which is a
> wonderful state. Perhaps four or five adjoining new cities would
> result. That should satisfy those who want the D.C. populace to be
> represented in Congress.
>
> At the same time, to accommodate those in the inner city(ies) now part
> of D.C., the fed govt should invest in programs that model innovation
> for the rest of the states.

Not a bad idea! Perhaps they could move folks out - by a means better
than the "Trail of Tears" - to new housing and map an area to include
the buildings and avoid Gerrymandering issues.

>
> Should have some a model school system, library system, health care system,
> etc., and each state capitol have similar models, so the rest of the country
> can imitate some of what they do.
>
> If the US could be a model before the rest of the world, maybe desired change
> could come just from that, assuming our financial and military support to
> foreign nations depended on something more ideal than regime change. What we
> need is regime change in the US, plus a Congress that can walk a straight
> line, a non-ideology driven State Department, guidelines for our military
> industrial complex.
>
> Otherwise, I hope D.C. population continues to suffocate the plantation of
> bureaucrats there.
>

All good points, ideas and suggestions.

Thank you!

LEG

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Nov 27, 2007, 7:22:54 PM11/27/07
to

+++++++
Subject:PBS-"NOW".-
--
HOME- This Week. Archive | PBS
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http://www.pbs.org/now/thisweek/archive.html
>
---

You

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Nov 28, 2007, 1:13:06 PM11/28/07
to
In article
<d9b3bed3-a3dc-47cc...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
LEG <LEG...@webtv.net> wrote:

Oh, Lordy... Psylvia actually responding to her own post......
Wow.... will wonders never cease.....

Jan Flora

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Nov 28, 2007, 6:56:30 PM11/28/07
to
In article <fM2dnUSuYde5edfa...@bresnan.com>,
sk8r-365 <sk8r...@sk8r.debian.etch.invalid.org> wrote:

> Horton heard a Who named Jan Flora saying:
>
> > There was a floor vote in the US Senate on DC becoming a
> > state recently. They're talking about it.
>
> How'd that turn out? It's foolish to place the seat of the national
> government in a State - too much power and influence ... think there's
> corruption now?

It failed in the floor vote.

The only reason I knew about it was because I arrived
early to meet with our Junior Senator. She was rushing
out of her office to vote. When I asked her what they were
voting on, she said the district getting statehood status.

I said, "It's time. Vote yes." She said, "I agree that it's
time, but I think a Constitutional Amendment is the way to
address the problem." So she voted no on the motion that
was on the floor.

Otherwise, I found our junior senator to be funny, smart
and engaging. I don't like the way she got into office
and I don't like everything she does as a senator, but
I liked her personally, when I got to sit down and talk
to her.

Jan

sk8r-365

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Nov 28, 2007, 7:52:28 PM11/28/07
to
Horton heard a Who named Jan Flora saying:
> In article <fM2dnUSuYde5edfa...@bresnan.com>,
> sk8r-365 <sk8r...@sk8r.debian.etch.invalid.org> wrote:
>
>> Horton heard a Who named Jan Flora saying:
>>
>> > There was a floor vote in the US Senate on DC becoming a
>> > state recently. They're talking about it.
>>
>> How'd that turn out?
<snip>

> It failed in the floor vote.
>
> The only reason I knew about it was because I arrived
> early to meet with our Junior Senator. She was rushing
> out of her office to vote. When I asked her what they were
> voting on, she said the district getting statehood status.
>
> I said, "It's time. Vote yes." She said, "I agree that it's
> time, but I think a Constitutional Amendment is the way to
> address the problem." So she voted no on the motion that
> was on the floor.
>
> Otherwise, I found our junior senator to be funny, smart
> and engaging. I don't like the way she got into office
> and I don't like everything she does as a senator, but
> I liked her personally, when I got to sit down and talk
> to her.
>

Thanks for the update. Amendment 23 handles D.C.'s right of
representation, and therefore, IMO, there's no need for it to be a
State... indeed, it would be unlawful since an Amendment is in place.

AMENDMENT XXIII

Passed by Congress June 16, 1960. Ratified March 29, 1961.

Section 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the
United States shall appoint in such manner as Congress may direct:

A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole
number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District
would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the
least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by
the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the
election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a
State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as
provided by the twelfth article of amendment.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by
appropriate legislation.

A. J. Rawls

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Nov 28, 2007, 10:57:37 PM11/28/07
to
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:52:28 -0600, sk8r-365
<sk8r...@sk8r.debian.etch.invalid.org> wrote:

The folks in DC do not have voting Congressmen and Senators. Their
delegate has no power.
The Anchorage Fishwrapper and Litterbox Liner Press

Rico

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Nov 29, 2007, 3:38:47 PM11/29/07
to
THIS ARTICLE ALSO HAS THE AUDIO OF THE CLOSING REMARKS OF THE TWO U.S.
ATTYS.
---
11-01-07-
PICTURES OF U.S. PROSECUTORS-Kohring guilty of conspiracy,
--
http://alaskareport.com/news1107/z46878_kohring_guilty.htm
>

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Rico

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Nov 29, 2007, 4:20:59 PM11/29/07
to
CLICK ON LINKS FOR CONGRESSIONAL SESSIONS TO PULL UP CAMPAIGN MONEY-
SCROLL TO BOTTOM OF THIS LIST FOR THE $10,000 ONES.
---
IT WOULD TAKE SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHO OWNS THESE VEILED PACS.
---
CLICK ON THE HOME PAGE TO RUN THE OTHER CONGRESS PEOPLE.
--
Subject:TED STEVENS-Taxpayers for Common Sense -
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http://www.capwiz.com/taxpayer/bio/?id=159&submit.x=12&submit.y=12
>
---

Rico

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Nov 29, 2007, 5:20:47 PM11/29/07
to
JUST RAN ACROSS THIS IN MY RESEARCH. NICE AND NEAT-ALL IN ONE SPOT,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MEDIA DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY DETAILS.
---
Subject:HOME-FED. CASES IN AK-
---
District of Alaska - Press Releases
---
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/ak/press/index.html
>
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Rico

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Nov 29, 2007, 7:49:11 PM11/29/07
to
THIS WAS POSTED ON NOV. 11, 2007. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOUNG'S CASE
WAS PROCEEDING SO FAST.
---
Subject:11-11-07-
--
Rep. Don Young : Earmarks, favors: Young used position
--
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi/young/v-printer/story/9447181p-9358502c.html
>
--

LEG

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Nov 30, 2007, 2:51:00 PM11/30/07
to
Re: THE "RULE OF LAW" THAT AMERICANS CAN USE TO PROSECUTE THE FASCIST
BUSH REGIME --VIOLATION OF LAWS RE "NO PERMANENT BASES IN IRAQ &
TAKING OF IRAQ OIL--
"APPROPRIATION LAW"-VIOLATED
---
PER USUAL, THE BUSH REGIME ACTS AS THOUGH "THERE IS NO LAW IN THE U.S.
THAT THE BUSH REGIME MUST OBEY".
--
PER USUAL, THE BUSH REGIME USES THE CON-MAN'S FRAUD GAME OF:
---
SAYING THAT THE PLAIN LANGUAGE IN A LAW, IS "NOT" WHAT THE LAW REALLY
MEANS" AND "THE BUSH REGIME WILL INTERPRET ALL LAWS AND THE
CONSTITUTION".
---
THE PASSAGE OF THE 2008 APPROPRIATION LAW CLEARLY STATED:
--
NO PERMANENT BASES IN IRAQ AND NO TAKING OF IRAQI OIL, YET THAT IS
EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND EVEN STATED THAT "IRAQ WILL BE LIKE
THE 30 YEAR OCCUPATION OF S. KOREA".
---
REPUBLICANS, THESE BLATANT VIOLATIONS OF OUR LAWS AND CONSTITUTION
"CRIES OUT THAT YOU MUST AGREE TO IMPEACH THE BUSH REGIME, SO THAT
"YOU CAN PROVE THAT YOU STOOD UP TO THIS FACIST REGIME".
--
DEMOCRATS, YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU "ARE SUPPORTING THIS FASCIST GOVT.
BY PUBLICALLY STATING "THERE WILL NOT BE ANY IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS..THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE.(PELOSI)
---
BOTH PARTIES HAVE PROVEN TO THE WORLD THAT "THIS U.S. FACIST ACTION
WILL CONTINUE ALL OVER WORLD".
---
AS YOU WILL READ, THIS "IS" THE REASON WHY AMERICANS ARE BEING
KILLED ALL OVER THE WORLD, I.E. AMERICANS REFUSE TO HOLD THIS FASCIST
GOVT. ACCOUNTABLE.
--
THIS IS ALL TAKING PLACE WHILE THE REPUBS & DEMOS "WANT YOU TO VOTE
FOR A SEATED CONGRESS PERSON, WHO SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THIS 7 YEARS
AGO.
------
Subject:11-30-07-
---
Bush-Maliki Agreement Defies US Laws and Iraqi Parliament
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/113007J.shtml
----


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LEG

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Dec 1, 2007, 4:12:39 PM12/1/07
to
IN OR ABOUT 1998, I USED MY PFD TO MAKE MANY LONG DISTANCE CALLS TO
JUNEAU AND WASH., D.C. WHERE THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THE DEPT. OF
AGRICULTURE IS.
--
REASON: OUR SO-CALLED "DEMOCRAT (FOR THE WORKING PEOPLE) GOVERNOR,
TONY KNOWLES, REFUSED TO APPLY FOR THE FED. FOOD STAMP WAIVER, WHICH
MANDATED THAT "WHEN ALASKA'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE WAS AT 6%, HE HAD ISSUE
FOOD STAMPS "AND" PAY UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
--
EVERY WINTER TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ALASKANS LOSE THEIR JOBS, DUE TO
SEASONAL TOURIST TRADE. IN 1998, IT WAS 45,000 ALASKAN FAMILIES, WHO
WERE NOT GOING TO GET THEIR RIGHTFUL FOOD STAMPS, WHICH I MUST ADD,
THESE "SAME WORKERS" WERE PAYING FOR VIA FED. TAXES, WHEN THEY WERE
WORKING.
--
AFTER MANY LONG DISTANCE CALLS AND A THREAT OF LAW SUITS, THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL CONTACTED THE GOVERNOR, AND NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO
ALL OF THE FAMILIES THAT KNOWLES TOLD...HE WAS CUTTING OFF THEIR FOOD
STAMPS.
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IT ONLY TOOK 2 WEEKS FOR THIS TO TAKE PLACE.
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IN MY RESEARCH, WHEN MURKOWSKI WAS ELECTED, I SEE THAT HE ALSO DIDN'T
APPLY FOR THIS FED. WAIVER.
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NOW THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, PALIN, AND THIS ARTICLE
WAS WRITTEN ABOUT ALASKA, I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THESE LAID OFF
FAMILIES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES THRU THE FOOD BANKS
BECAUSE THEIR FOOD STAMPS "ARE STILL NOT BEING ISSUED".
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SINCE I NO LONGER LIVE IN ALASKA, MAYBE ONE OF YOU ALASKANS WHO READ
THIS GROUP, AND GIVE A DAMN ABOUT SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF, WOULD
LIKE TO CALL THE GOVERNOR AND TELL HER ABOUT THE FEDERAL FOOD STAMP
WAIVER THAT SHE SHOULD BE GETTING SO THESE FAMILIES WON'T STARVE TO
DEATH.
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AND WHILE YOUR AT IT, TELL HER SHE IS MANDATED, BY FEDERAL LAW TO PAY
OUT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, WHEN THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS AT 6%, OR
ELSE SHE COULD LOSE ALL FEDERAL FUNDING FOR BOTH.
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LASTLY, THE STATE ADMINISTRATORS FOR "BOTH OF THESE AGENCIES, I.E. AK.
DEPT OF LABOR, AND HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES, ARE CORRUPT AND USE FALSE
DATA, SO THEIR DATA SHOWS THESE PERCENTAGE RATES ARE NOT THIS HIGH.
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THE REASON FOR THIS CRIMINAL ACT IS..AS FORMER ADMINISTRATOR OF LABOR,
TOM CASHEN, PUT IT WHEN I CALLED HIM:
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"WE COULD LOSE 100,000 PEOPLE IN THIS STATE AND BE BETTER OFF FOR IT",
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I.E. BY ILLEGALLY DENYING THESE PEOPLE THEIR RIGHTS TO U.I. AND FOOD
STAMPS DURING THE WINTER, WHEN THERE ARE "NO JOBS", THE POLITICIANS
ARE "FORCING PEOPLE TO LEAVE ALASKA".
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THIS IS THE REAL ATTITUDE OF THE FASCISTS WHO CONTROL THE
AK.GOVT.BECAUSE: THE PEOPLE DON'T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES.
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Subject:11-30-07-
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Food Banks, in a Squeeze, Tighten Belts
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/113007P.shtml
>
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LEG

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Dec 2, 2007, 4:00:32 PM12/2/07
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IT'S THE 3 YEAR PROBATION THAT BP WON'T BE ABLE TO DO.
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THIS WAS A FEDERAL COURT JUDGE.. PROBABLY ONE THAT BUSH NOMINATED AND
OUR CORRUPT CONGRESS VOTED FOR. SINCE THE CASE DIDN'T GO TO TRIAL, I'M
SURE MORE KICK-BACKS ARE BEING PAID OUT NOW.
--
Subject:11-30-07-
BP fined, rebuked for oil spill
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http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/v-printer/story/9488298p-9399209c.html
>
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LEG

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Dec 2, 2007, 6:15:11 PM12/2/07
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I LOVE THIS! IT IS OBVIOUS THAT ALASKANS KNOW THEIR POLITICIANS ARE
CORRUPT AND THEY KEPT ELECTING THEM, SO LONG AS THEY (ALASKANS)
THOUGHT THEY WERE BENEFITING.
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MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ALSO KNOW THAT THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF
IRAQ, WAS ILLEGAL AND WAS "ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAKING CONTROL OF
IRAQ'S OIL".
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IN BOTH CASES, AMERICANS AND ALASKANS ARE PAYING THE PRICE THRU
ROBBERY OF THEIR TREASURIES, TO THE KILLING OF THEIR SONS AND
DAUGHTERS.
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SINCE AMERICANS HAVE PROVED TO THE WORLD THAT THEY WILL DO NOTHING TO
THEIR CORRUPT POLITICIANS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, THE WORLD IS
JUSTIFIED IN HATING AND DISTRUSTING THEM.
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THE U.S.A. IS STANDING ON THE BRINK OF TOTAL DESTRUCTION THRU MANY
FORMS; ONE IS THROUGH THE RUINATION OF IT'S ECONOMY, WHICH "WAS THE
ENTIRE POINT OF THE 9-11 ATTACKS ON THE TWIN TOWARDS", YET MOST
AMERICANS STILL DON'T GET IT AND APPARENTLY WON'T UNTIL TOTAL
DESTRUCTION TAKES PLACE.
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"THE ENEMY LIES WITHIN AND IT'S US."
--
Subject:12-02-07-
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State corruption scandal scared off gas line bid
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http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/v-printer/story/9493909p-9404772c.html
>
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LEG

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Dec 8, 2007, 12:38:51 AM12/8/07
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THE POWER FINALLY CAME ON AND I BREWED MY FIRST CUP OF HOT COFFEE AND
TURNED ON THE NEWS TO SEE HOW THE REST OF THE STATE IS DOING.
--
THE FLOODING TOOK PLACE JUST A FEW MILES FROM ME. THE SIGHT OF ALL OF
THE DEAD ANIMALS ON THE FARMS AND THE WATER LINES IN THE HOMES THAT
SHOWS IT CAME UP ABOUT 5 FEET WAS A QUICK MINDER OF A PAST FLOOD I HAD
EXPERIENCED.
--
I'M STILL FROZEN TO THE BONE AND WILL HAVE TO WAIT SEVERAL HOURS
BEFORE THE WATER HEATER HEATS UP.
--
THE FRIG IS FILLED WITH, NOW ROTTEN FOOD, AND FOUND A HUGE POOL OF
WATER BEHIND IT WHERE IT HAD LEAKED OUT.
--
WHY DOES THIS CRAP ALWAYS HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THE WINTER TIME? IT HAS
BEEN BELOW FREEZING FOR MANY NIGHTS AND OF COURSE, IT WAS WARMER
OUTSIDE THEN INSIDE.
--
LAST SATURDAY THE STORM STARTED WITH HUGE SNOW FLAKES AND THEN IT
TURNED INTO RAIN AND RAINED LIKE HELL; THEN THERE WAS A QUIET BREAK
AND THE SUN CAME OUT. IN A VERY SHORT FEW HOURS THE WINDS SWEPT OVER
US AT SPEEDS UP TO 110 MPH..A REAL HURRICANE.
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EVERY WINTER I HAVE EXPERIENCED HERE WE HAVE HAD OUR POWER GO OUT, BUT
IT WAS BACK ON WITHIN 4 HOURS.
--

THIS TIME IT REMINDED ME OF THE JODY FOSTER MOVIE WHERE COWS WERE
FLYING OVER THEIR CAR. THEN IT REALLY ACTED LIKE SOME BEAST FROM HELL;
IT WAS WIND AND RAIN
SMASHING INTO THE WINDOWS AND THE WINDOW GLASS STARTED BENDING AND
SQUEAKING FROM IT'S THIN JAIL OF CAUKING. I CLOSED THE VENTIAN (PH)
BLINDS JUST IN CASE IT WANTED TO COME IN.
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I HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS MANY DAYS AND NIGHTS WITHOUT HEAT BEFORE,
NOR HAVE I ONLY BEEN ABOUT 105 LBS EITHER, WHICH MADE IT REAL EASY TO
START SHAKING FROM THE COLD, EVEN WITH 3 LAYERS OF CLOTHES ON, WRAPPED
IN TWO BLANKETS AND A DOWN QUILT.
--
LESSON LEARNED..
...GET A GENERATOR; GET A GENERATOR; GET A GENERATOR AND PUT ON 50
LBS; A BOTTLE OF CROWN ROYAL; A CAN OF WHIP CREAM AND MAKE IRISH
COFFEE AND OPEN UP ALL THE LITTLE CANS OF GOODIES; SMOKED OYSTERS;
HEARTS OF ARTICHOKES; BAGELS WITH CREAM CHEESE, ETC. ETC.
---
LOCAL RADIO TALK SHOWS WERE JUST A DRONE OF THE SAME NEWS FOR 6
DAYS..PROMISES MADE THAT THE POWER CO. IS WORKING ROUND THE CLOCK TO
GET US HOOKED UP AGAIN AFTER 300-400 PLUS TELEPHONE POLES WERE BLOWN
OVER..HIGHWAYS CLOSED; SCHOOLS CLOSED; TREES ALL OVER THE ROADS; MUD
SLIDES, AND MORE.
---
THE GOVERNOR CALLING FOR FEDERAL EMERGENCY HELP..THE NATIONAL GUARD
AND RED CROSS ARE HERE TO HELP, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ONE.
--
21 CONTRACTED WORKERS TEAMS CAME INTO THE STATE TO HELP...NO MENTION
OF THE NAME-HALIBURTON? WHO KNOWS?
--
SINCE WE ARE "JUST" GETTING INTO "OFFICIAL WINTER TIME" AND THE
MAJORITY OF SMALL GENERATORS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD OUT, I WILL BE
DOING SOME ON-LINE RESEARCH FOR ONE..
--
SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT WHAT IT WILL COST TO "BE FULLY PREPARED FOR
THE NEXT TIME, AND THERE "WILL" BE A NEXT TIME; IT WILL PROBABLY BE
THE SAME COST TO MOVE OUT OF HERE, BUT TO WHERE?
--
THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS A MAD, MAD WORLD, OF HURRICANES, TORNADOES,
FLOODS, DROUGHT, AND EARTHQUAKES.
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BOTTOM-LINE:
"BE MORE PREPARED THEN YOU THOUGHT YOU NEEDED TO BE". &;D

sk8r-365

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Dec 10, 2007, 4:21:15 PM12/10/07
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Horton heard a Who named LEG saying:

<snip>-


> THE FRIG IS FILLED WITH, NOW ROTTEN FOOD, AND FOUND A HUGE POOL OF
> WATER BEHIND IT WHERE IT HAD LEAKED OUT.
> --
> WHY DOES THIS CRAP ALWAYS HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THE WINTER TIME? IT HAS
> BEEN BELOW FREEZING FOR MANY NIGHTS AND OF COURSE, IT WAS WARMER
> OUTSIDE THEN INSIDE.

<snip>

If it's that cold outdoors, why leave the food in the frig to rot? Put
it outside ...

239

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Dec 10, 2007, 11:17:38 PM12/10/07
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HE'S ON THE COAST-TO-COAST RADIO SHOW TONIGHT-WHICH STARTS AT 1OPM-
PST. HE'S ON AT 11:PM
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GO HERE TO GET YOUR RADIO STATION ON "HELP" LINK.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com
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HERE'S THE WRITE-UP. IF YOU MISSED IT, YOU CAN BRING UP THE AUDIO TAPE
BY GOING TO THE ABOVE LINK.
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Lindsey Williams, who has been an ordained Baptist minister for 28
years, went to Alaska in 1971 as a missionary.
---
The Transalaska oil pipeline began its construction phase in 1974, and
because of Mr. Williams' love for his country and concern for the
spiritual welfare of the "pipeliners," he volunteered to serve as
Chaplain on the pipeline, with the subsequent full support of the
Alyeska Pipeline Company.
---
Because of the executive status accorded to him as Chaplain, he was
given access to information documented in his eye opening book, The
Energy Non-Crisis.
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After numerous public speaking engagements in the western states,
certain government officials and concerned individuals urged Mr.
Williams to put into print what he saw and heard, stating that they
felt this information was vital to national security.
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Mr. Williams firmly believes that whoever controls energy controls the
economy.
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Thus, The Energy Non-Crisis.



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MUCKRAKER

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Dec 15, 2007, 6:19:01 PM12/15/07
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THE MOST GLARING OF THE CANDIDATES WHO ACCEPTED THESE BRIBES ARE:
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THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE DECLARED THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND THEIR
MORAL SO-CALLED HIGH GROUND, YET ACCEPTED MONEY FROM THE LARGE TOBACCO
CORPS, WHICH KILL HUNREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR, AND..
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THE CASINOS AND GAMBLING CORPS..I DIDN'T KNOW JESUS PRAISED THESE
BUSINESSES..IN FACT, I THINK THEY FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF "SOLD FOR
20 PIECES OF SILVER".
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TAKE A LOOK AT HILLARY'S MULTI-MILLIONS BRIBE FROM "THE INSURANCE
COMPANIES"..THE VERY PEOPLE SHE SAYS SHE WILL "TAKE AWAY THEIR
BUSINESS SO ALL AMERICANS CAN GET MEDICAL INSURANCE UNDER A "UNIVERSAL
MEDICAL PLAN", WHICH IS OPERATED BY THE FEDS, LIKE MEDICARE AND
MEDICAID.
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SO REPUBS AND DEMOS SEE WHO THE LIARS ARE AND DECIDE IF YOU REALLY
WANT THEM IN OFFICE NOW THAT YOU KNOW WHO HAS BOUGHT THEM.
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Subject: 2008 PRES. CANDIDATES WHO RECEIVED MONEY FROM BIG CORPS.
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(NOTE-YOU MAY SEE A NOTICE COME UP-JUST "HIT THE OK BUTTON" AND THE
INFO WILL COME UP.
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TYPE CANDIDATE NAME AND A LIST OF NAMES OF DONERS WITH THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY GIVEN WILL COME UP"
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(TYPE IN CANDIDATE NAME & ENTER"
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
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CASINOS/GAMBLING
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=N07
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COMPUTERS/INTERNET
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B12
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EDUCATION CORPS
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HEALTH PROFESSIONALS
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INSURANCE CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F09
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LAWYERS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K01
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LOBBYIST MONEY
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K02
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OIL AND GAS CORPS
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=E01
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TV-MOVIE CORP
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TOBACCO CORPS.
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JSM

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On Nov 26, 8:33 am, bookb...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:02:51 -0900, Jan Flora <snows...@xyz.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article
> ><6cd8f2b3-e4be-42eb-9255-32171d0bb...@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

Hopefully Al Qada is going to nuke the place and not that they realize
it will fix lots of things. That will fix the problem of D.C. as a
state for the next 60,000 years, it would incinerate 10, 000 lawyers
and that can't be bad. there is a good chance it would get a lot of
House and Senate electees and appointees and that definitely would be
good and it would just about wipe out the lobbyist and that would
certainly be something positive for democracy.

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