"thinking movies"
the_siamese_testicle
boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
make you think about various things after viewing.
some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like it,
list your top 10 favorites :)
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Mike Veasey
out if you haven't seen it.
the_siamese_testicle wrote:
> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
> boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
> make you think about various things after viewing.
>
> some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
> ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like it,
> list your top 10 favorites :)
>
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David Sticher
(Nimrod``) wrote:
> THE DEAD
A valiant, well-done effort on the part of Huston, but not all that
successful in the end. I'm not usually one to go on about how "the book is
always better than the movie" - or, in this case, the short story - but in
this case, the short story is so superior so as to make the movie almost
superfluous. "Mother Night Syndrome," if you will.
If you absolutely *must* see it, read the story first, but also keep an
eye out for the documentary "The Making of the Dead" - trust me, you'll
gain a greater appreciation of it if you see both.
Wiseblood, on the other hand, is fantastic. Further, I'll add Solaris and
Naked Lunch to the pot. (And no, I don't think I'm being hypocritical by
mentioning Naked Lunch...)
- Dave
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...And so forth.
Trauma
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:36:22 -0400, the_siamese_testicle
<jgr...@helios.acomp.usf.edu> wrote:
> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
>boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
>make you think about various things after viewing.
>
> some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
>ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like it,
>list your top 10 favorites :)
>
>
>--- wH0?
the_siamese_testicle
> > >> ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like
> it,
> > >> list your top 10 favorites :)
> Jacob's Ladder, a well done and thought-provoking movie? Well, never heard
> that before.!
>
> If u want thought-provoking go see Tarkovski's movies.
> But not for me anyway, apart from Stalker it all seems very "Cannes"
> oriented.
i actually consider jacob's ladder one of my favorite movies. i think it
is very well done, and thought provoking. and the camera work is really
nice. i wrote a shot by shot analysis of the episode where jacob is on the
subway, and there is really a lot going on with the camera that conveys a
lot of the themes.
thats just my opinion though. i do know i enjoy it immensely, and consider
it a definate "thought provoker" <shrug>
T.Rose
In the seventies I took a film class in college, this was one of the films
we saw and the images have stayed with me. I was very discouraged when some
younger friends took a film class recently (again, college) and I heard the
movies they saw. Only one silent and no foreign films, mostly pop stuff
they would have seen anyways..... So much for education expanding your
horizons.
Tom, Silicon Valley
麥慈
Mike Veasey 撰寫於文章 <37C6B860...@ix.netcom.com>...
>"Mindwalk" The whole purpose of this movie is to make you think. Check it
>out if you haven't seen it.
>
>
>> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
>> boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
>> make you think about various things after viewing.
>>
>> ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like it,
>> list your top 10 favorites :)
>>
Mário Valente
news:7q6i1e$u22$1...@imsp009a.netvigator.com...
> betty blue
> Mike Veasey 撰寫於文章 <37C6B860...@ix.netcom.com>...
> >"Mindwalk" The whole purpose of this movie is to make you think. Check
it
> >out if you haven't seen it.
> >
> >the_siamese_testicle wrote:
> >
> >> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
> >> boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that
they
> >> make you think about various things after viewing.
> >>
> >> some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
> >> ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like
it,
> >> list your top 10 favorites :)
Jacob's Ladder, a well done and thought-provoking movie? Well, never heard
Mário Valente
heard
> > that before.!
> >
> > If u want thought-provoking go see Tarkovski's movies.
> > But not for me anyway, apart from Stalker it all seems very "Cannes"
> > oriented.
>
> is very well done, and thought provoking. and the camera work is really
> nice. i wrote a shot by shot analysis of the episode where jacob is on the
> subway, and there is really a lot going on with the camera that conveys a
> lot of the themes.
>
> thats just my opinion though. i do know i enjoy it immensely, and consider
> it a definate "thought provoker" <shrug>
Well, but it's also gratuitous and tasteless. And I really can't stand the
way Adrian Lyne films as if he was always doing TV commercials. Besides,
there's too many plot holes.
But that's just my opinion, I got several friends who love the movie.
OcristIII
My Dinner With Andre
Swimming to Cambodia
Koyoniskazzi ( or however the hell you spell it )
Kirosawa's "Dreams" ( I think it's called ) a series of short film's based on
dreams or nightmares he had.
Thx-1138
Eraserhead
" Fiery the angels fell, Deep thunder rolled around their shores,
Burning with the fires of orc."
Roy - Blade Runner
SBB
>
> Wiseblood, on the other hand, is fantastic. Further, I'll add Solaris and
> Naked Lunch to the pot. (And no, I don't think I'm being hypocritical by
> mentioning Naked Lunch...)
I just saw Naked Lunch not too long ago and I didn't get it at all. Could
someone explain it to me, especially the ending where he's supposed to
"write" something?
YouRLindsy
>boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
>make you think about various things after viewing.
I think almost any interesting movie can be a "thinking movie", even a "minor"
crime film or a screwball comedy. It depends on how it hits you. But I think
I know what you're talking about.
Here's my fractured, improvised Top 10 (in no order):
1. 8 1/2
2. Dawn of the Dead
3. Orpheus
4. Cries and Whispers
5. Peter Ibbetson
6. Pandora's Box
7. Metropolis
8. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
9. The Searchers
10. Pierrot Le Fou
Lindsey
Cliff Heller
>
> I just saw Naked Lunch not too long ago and I didn't get it at all. Could
> someone explain it to me, especially the ending where he's supposed to
> "write" something?
I'm paraphrasing someone elses post from long ago:
Bill Lee is living in denial that he is a writer, that he murdered his
wife, that he is a homosexual, that he is a drug addict.
He doesn't write - he writes "reports" for Interzone corporation.
He isn't a homosexual, he sucks hallucinogenic fluids from the probosci of
mugwumps.
He isn't a drug addict, it's only bug powder and centipede/mugwump
extracts.
In the final scene he is leaving interzone, coming to terms with all of
this by "writing" about how he actually killed his wife.
There's more to it than that of course. It ties in a little with the book
and a little more with real events in Burroughs' life.
I want this on DVD dammit!
--
Don't knock on Death's door.
Ring the bell and run away. He hates that.
David Sticher
(Nimrod``) wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned, John Huston's film of THE DEAD is a wealth of
> joyful lacework, resolving upon one of the most moving and profound
> ruminations of love and the human condition in all of fiction---which
> does great justice to the tale as Joyce rendered it.
It's a re-enactment of the story onto film. It loses Joyce's command of
the language to merely very good acting and cinematography. What does it
add? The story communicates *so* much more on paper than it did on film
that Huston's version is more a sweet treat for those who've read the
story than a true "thinking movie" - a term I feel implies that the *movie
itself* is engendering said thinking.
While "The Dead" is an intelligent adaptation of one of the best short
stories in the English language, if one is pursuing a *movie* which
inspires deep thought and reflection, one might as well recommend the
best. Seeing the movie before reading the story would be injurious to an
appreciation of the original, IMHO - you'd come into it loaded down with
pre-formed images and a critical gloss already provided by Mr. Huston.
I never said it was a *bad* movie; it's just that it doesn't add much, the
story should be read first and the documentary is a lovely addition.
Mário Valente
> David Sticher wrote:
> >
> > Wiseblood, on the other hand, is fantastic. Further, I'll add Solaris
and
> > Naked Lunch to the pot. (And no, I don't think I'm being hypocritical by
> > mentioning Naked Lunch...)
>
> someone explain it to me, especially the ending where he's supposed to
> "write" something?
It's not supposed to make any particular sense. It's the possible adaptation
of Burrough's "random writing" to a film script. It mixes the story (well,
some episodes, it's hard to call it a story) of the book with Burrough's
real life.
You Die Joe
YouRLindsy wrote in message
<19990828041046...@ng-fl1.aol.com>...
>> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
>>boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
>>make you think about various things after viewing.
>
>
>I think almost any interesting movie can be a "thinking movie", even a
"minor"
>crime film or a screwball comedy. It depends on how it hits you. But I
think
>I know what you're talking about.
>
You have an excellent point there. Personal experience as well as transient
mood affect all our appreciations of artworks be they films or otherwise. A
film usually has to be pretty damn bad to be TOTALLY devoid of merit, and
even the most horrible cliche is news to somebody. I'll add the following
"thoughtful" films to those already mentioned (I know they're all pretty
recent, but hey):
Taxi Driver
floundering
Jesu de Montreal
schizopolis
The Last Temptation of Christ
Manhattan
And that's all I can think of now.
YDJ
voogoo
> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
>boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
>make you think about various things after viewing.
>
> some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
>ladder, pi, 2001, etc...
BEGOTTEN
haha, but seriously, i think some of these were already mentioned:
The Last Temptation Of Christ
Kurosawa's Dreams (especially the funeral dream)
An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge
Threads (not AS thought provoking in this post cold war era, but still
worth a view)
Shiro Toyoda's Portrait Of Hell (or is it Toyoda Shiro?)
Pink Floyd's The Wall (is there anything more introspective?)
or you could turn off the TV and pick up Dr. Leary's final book,
"Design For Dying."
i know there's more but it's early "and i'm spent."
Carla Pettigrew
> what are some classic movies that can be united past genre
> boundaries by the fact that they are so well done and profound that they
> make you think about various things after viewing.
>
> some that i can think of off the top of my head are jacob's
> ladder, pi, 2001, etc... please gimme some. in fact, if you feel like it,
> list your top 10 favorites :)
Death and the Maiden is the first one to come to mind.
O:) Carla
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Mike Schmid
talking and thinking for hours afterwords; likewise with "The Blair Witch
Project." Other thought-provoking movies for me: "Brazil," "Hilary &
Jackie," "Dark City," "Twelve Monkeys," "Antz" (from a communism
perspective), "Red," "Before Sunrise," "Gattaca" and "The Truman Show."
Mike
yearly
NAKED
MY DINNER WITH ANDRE
BARTON FINK
DO THE RIGHT THING
SMOKE
THE SEVENTH SEAL
2001
THIRTY-TWO SHORT FILMS ABOUT GLEN GOULD
THE THIN BLUE LINE
CRUMB
ROGER AND ME
MASCULIN/FEMININ
THE ELEPHANT MAN
any film by Andrei Tarkovsky
certain films by Oliver Stone
or :
ERASERHEAD
UN CHIEN ANDALOU
THE SILENCE
PERSONA
most any film by Greenaway (A ZED AND TWO NOUGHTS, in particular)
POISON
LOST HIGHWAY
THE LAST OF ENGLAND
these lists can go on and on and on... any good film should make one
think to some extent on some plain...