Society ?

Simen Bjørklund

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96

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Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?

Some years ago I saw the making of the film and it had some nice effects (I
love CB's "Nightbreed".)

But there is a terrible videomarket here in Norway. Old films (especially
cult-classics) is nowhere to be found. (Maybe som small *very well hidden*
video-import-stores, but I don't know of anyone). Splatters are almost banned.
(I got a 'shock' when I saw 'Army Of Darkness', 'Bad Taste' and 'BrainDead'
(Dead Alive) in the video-stores. I think those are the only 'splatter' movies
in official rental in Norway.)

(It could be some names-differences here. Often they rename English/American
titles to another English/American title... SICK!)

examples:
The professional = Leon (also used in UK ?)
Fatal Instinct=Crazy Instinct

While talking about names: Why is there so many differences in film-titles?
(This is international i think ?)
I think I've seen 'Braindead' with three different titles.
(Braindead, Dead Alive, and another one...)
And also 'Highlander 3' have I seen with different titles:
Highlander 3 : The (next/other) dimention (I'm not 100% about this)
Highlander 3 : The sorcerer
Highlander 3 : The magician

What's the point ?

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Phil Martin

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96

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In article <1439.6776...@online.no>
sim...@online.no "Simen Bjrklund" writes:

> Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?

I don't think Clive Barker had anything to do with this. There is a film
called SOCIETY directed by Brian Yuzna, and it is IMO well worth tracking
down.

> Some years ago I saw the making of the film and it had some nice effects

Special effects by Screaming Mad George!

It is an excellent example of the "just because you're paranoid, doesn't
mean they aren't out to get you" plot, with the bonus of a completly OTT
sfx finale!

"Society...It's all about fitting in."

--
Phil Martin PGP Key: p...@webcor.demon.co.uk

Franknseus

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96

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In article <1439.6776...@online.no>, sim...@online.no (Simen
Bjørklund) writes:

>Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?
>

>Some years ago I saw the making of the film and it had some nice effects

(I
>love CB's "Nightbreed".)

I assume you're talking about the same movie that is called
Transmutations in the US. As a fan of Nightbreed and Hellraiser, I would
say no, don't buy it. Sure, go ahead and rent if you can so you can make
up your own mind. But personally I found it extremely dull and it's one of
those few movies that made so little impression on me that I don't even
remember at all what it's about. Barker himself hates the film and says
that it bares little resemblance to his script. I believe he said that
only seven words of dialogue were his. (He was also upset about Rawhead
Rex, which is from the same producers but isn't nearly as bad.)

Bryan Frankenseuss Theiss

"As long as there's not too many of those things we can handle 'em easy."
"Yeah, well it wasn't one of 'those things' that nearly blew me away!"
--Dawn of the Dead

Simen Bjørklund

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96

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Phil Martin <ph...@webcor.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?

>I don't think Clive Barker had anything to do with this. There is a film
>called SOCIETY directed by Brian Yuzna, and it is IMO well worth tracking
>down.

Oh, shit... Here I have, year after year, thought it was a film by Clive
Barker. I really don't understand why I thought about him. I didn't know
anything about him at that time...

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Simen Bjørklund

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96

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Franknseus <frank...@aol.com> wrote:

>>Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?

>>Some years ago I saw the making of the film and it had some nice effects
>(I love CB's "Nightbreed".)
> I assume you're talking about the same movie that is called
>Transmutations in the US. As a fan of Nightbreed and Hellraiser, I would
>say no, don't buy it. Sure, go ahead and rent if you can so you can make
>up your own mind. But personally I found it extremely dull and it's one of
>those few movies that made so little impression on me that I don't even
>remember at all what it's about. Barker himself hates the film and says
>that it bares little resemblance to his script. I believe he said that
>only seven words of dialogue were his. (He was also upset about Rawhead
>Rex, which is from the same producers but isn't nearly as bad.)

OK... Phil Martin said that he thought Clive Barker had nothing to do with
'Society' (The films title here in Norway, and since it's not a Norwegian
word, I pressume it is the name used in Europe/UK).

What I remember from the cut was a real huge 'group-sex'-scene with a lot of
slime and people 'melted' together. And a really funny cut where a mans face
comes out of his behind saying - 'Well, you did always say a was an asshole'
(or similar).

Some nice fx! ;)

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Franknseus

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96

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In article <1536.6779...@online.no>, sim...@online.no (Simen
Bjørklund) writes:

>OK... Phil Martin said that he thought Clive Barker had nothing to do
with
>'Society' (The films title here in Norway, and since it's not a Norwegian
>word, I pressume it is the name used in Europe/UK).
>
>What I remember from the cut was a real huge 'group-sex'-scene with a lot
of
>slime and people 'melted' together. And a really funny cut where a mans
face
>comes out of his behind saying - 'Well, you did always say a was an
asshole'
>(or similar).

I haven't seen Brian Yuzna's movie Society, and like I said
Transmutations was completely forgettable. But I just realized that the
alternate title I've heard for Transmutations is "Underworld," not
Society. So maybe you are thinking of the Brian Yuzna movie. (This is
getting confusing!)

Phil Martin

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96

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In article <1536.6779...@online.no>
sim...@online.no "Simen Bjrklund" writes:

> >>Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?
>

> OK... Phil Martin said that he thought Clive Barker had nothing to do with
> 'Society' (The films title here in Norway, and since it's not a Norwegian
> word, I pressume it is the name used in Europe/UK).
>
> What I remember from the cut was a real huge 'group-sex'-scene with a lot of
> slime and people 'melted' together. And a really funny cut where a mans face
> comes out of his behind saying - 'Well, you did always say a was an asshole'
> (or similar).

This is without a doubt the Brian Yuzna movie.

> Some nice fx! ;)

Yep -- my previous comment stands. It has been released on PAL VHS, but I
don't know if it is still "in print". If you have problems tracking it
down, mail me.

Simen Bjørklund

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Jul 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/26/96

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Franknseus <frank...@aol.com> wrote:

>In article <1536.6779...@online.no>, sim...@online.no (Simen
>Bjørklund) writes:

>>OK... Phil Martin said that he thought Clive Barker had nothing to do
>with
>>'Society' (The films title here in Norway, and since it's not a Norwegian
>>word, I pressume it is the name used in Europe/UK).
>>
>>What I remember from the cut was a real huge 'group-sex'-scene with a lot
>of
>>slime and people 'melted' together. And a really funny cut where a mans
>face
>>comes out of his behind saying - 'Well, you did always say a was an
>asshole'
>>(or similar).

> I haven't seen Brian Yuzna's movie Society, and like I said
>Transmutations was completely forgettable. But I just realized that the
>alternate title I've heard for Transmutations is "Underworld," not
>Society. So maybe you are thinking of the Brian Yuzna movie. (This is
>getting confusing!)

Yes, I'm sorry I brought up this subject.
It may even happen that I'm mistaking the films title.
(I saw this a couple of years ago)

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Simen Bjørklund

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Jul 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/26/96

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Phil Martin <ph...@webcor.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> >>Is Clive Barker's "Society" worth buying ?

>> OK... Phil Martin said that he thought Clive Barker had nothing to do with
>> 'Society' (The films title here in Norway, and since it's not a Norwegian
>> word, I pressume it is the name used in Europe/UK).
>> What I remember from the cut was a real huge 'group-sex'-scene with a lot
>> of slime and people 'melted' together. And a really funny cut where a mans
>> face comes out of his behind saying - 'Well, you did always say a was an
>> asshole'
>> (or similar).

>This is without a doubt the Brian Yuzna movie.

Ok! So no Clive-Barker-Involvement then ?

>> Some nice fx! ;)
>Yep -- my previous comment stands. It has been released on PAL VHS, but I
>don't know if it is still "in print". If you have problems tracking it
>down, mail me.

I'll try tracking it down. But I think It'll be hell here in Norway. Will try
some mail-order-companies though. (Can you recommend any web-pages ?)

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Phil Martin

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In article <1234.6781...@online.no>
sim...@online.no "Simen Bjrklund" writes:

> >> Some nice fx! ;)
> >Yep -- my previous comment stands. It has been released on PAL VHS, but I
> >don't know if it is still "in print". If you have problems tracking it
> >down, mail me.
>
> I'll try tracking it down. But I think It'll be hell here in Norway. Will try
> some mail-order-companies though. (Can you recommend any web-pages ?)

Try Pastel Blue: http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel

You can search their database by email too. Send mail to:

sea...@pastel.demon.co.uk

with the following message body:

cat video
search society
quit

Good luck.

Simen Bjørklund

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Aug 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/4/96

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Phil Martin <ph...@webcor.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> >> Some nice fx! ;)
>> >Yep -- my previous comment stands. It has been released on PAL VHS, but I
>> >don't know if it is still "in print". If you have problems tracking it
>> >down, mail me.
>> I'll try tracking it down. But I think It'll be hell here in Norway. Will try
>> some mail-order-companies though. (Can you recommend any web-pages ?)
>Try Pastel Blue: http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel
>You can search their database by email too. Send mail to:
>sea...@pastel.demon.co.uk
>with the following message body:
>cat video
>search society
>quit

Thank you for your answer...

I and a couple of friends went to Sweden today. There I found Society (wth
Swedish subtitles)... I think I have seen the cover somewhere in Norway, but
with another title. Anyway: I bought the movie, so I am watching it right now.

It is (as somebody said) a film by Brian Yuzna, and FX by Screaming Mad George.
The main character is played by Billy Warlock (who also played in a lot of the
'Baywatch' episodes...(Don't remember wich character he played in
Babewatch...))

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