HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER
YAKS
This is one of my favorite horror films. It is disturbing and will stay
with you for years to come. Is there any information on the sequal or any
uncut version of the first film?
David Fresko
If you've seen the edited version of the film then you haven't seen the film. I saw the
un-editied version of the film and was terribly disturbed by it. I don't recommend this version
at all. Violence doesn't bother me in movies, but this film really go to me. I love Man Bites
Dog, but just can't find anything likeable about Henry.
Dave
Paul Atreides
In article <5241gc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ya...@aol.com (YAKS) wrote:
>This is one of my favorite horror films. It is disturbing and will stay
>with you for years to come. Is there any information on the sequal or any
>uncut version of the first film?
How are they going to make a sequel to "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?"
What are they going to do, call it "Henry: The Search for Otis?"
Sheesh
Paul Atreides
atre...@sover.net
Tenebrae
In article <52562v$p...@thrush.sover.net>, atre...@sover.net (Paul
Atreides) wrote:
> In article <5241gc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ya...@aol.com (YAKS) wrote:
> Is there any information on the sequal or any
> >uncut version of the first film?
>
> How are they going to make a sequel to "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?"
Check the new Fango cover: Henry 2 is out soon.
I heard something about a European cut of Henry that has one more scene
than the U.S. uncut, but i'm unsure.
-tenebrae
BAETEN R.R.A.M.
In article <524r2g$i...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> David Fresko <D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>From: David Fresko <D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER
>Date: 23 Sep 1996 02:01:52 GMT
>un-editied version of the film and was terribly disturbed by it. I don't
recommend this version >at all. Violence doesn't bother me in movies, but this
film really go to me. I love Man Bites >Dog, but just can't find anything
likeable about Henry.
>Dave
Well, Dave, Otis is the Bad Guy, who goes crazy after feeling the power of the
gun. Henry doesn't, and doesn't he do Otis when the latter goes after the girl
in the house (whose sister was it anyway) ?
the slow european
David Fresko
Otis goes after his own sister, who I guess Henry was in love with. That's why he killed Otis.
You're right, that Otis was the one who went crazy, but because of Henry. Henry opened his mind
up to murder and Otis, in the end was worse than Henry. He definately deserved what he got.
>
>the slow european
The fast American.
Carlos G Diaz III
In <5241gc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> ya...@aol.com (YAKS) writes:
>
>This is one of my favorite horror films. It is disturbing and will
stay
any
>uncut version of the first film?
was pretty much as Directors Cut as you can get, hell the movie almost
recieved an X rating by the MPAA. I could imagine what a director's cut
would get.......Uncut it already is!
Http://www.express-news.net/losman
check out the Disturbing movie and More Disturbing movie page....
Carlos'94
PJK
In article <527t0l$l...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>,
on 24 Sep 1996 05:53:25 GMT,
It think it's Rice Crispies: Portrait of a Killer Cereal.
Couldn't resist.
Pjk
Ataru Moroboshi
David Fresko wrote:
> If you've seen the edited version of the film then you haven't seen the film. I saw
> the un-editied version of the film and was terribly disturbed by it. I don't recommend > this version at all. Violence doesn't bother me in movies, but this film really go to > me. I love Man Bites Dog, but just can't find anything likeable about Henry.
Yeah.. but did you see the uncut version of Dog?
Drew, who hasn't seen either Dog or Henry...
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David Fresko
Ataru Moroboshi <u100...@warwick.net> wrote:
>David Fresko wrote:
>
>> If you've seen the edited version of the film then you haven't seen the film. I saw
ther me in movies, but this film really go to > me. I love Man Bites Dog, but just can't find anything likeable about Henry.
>
>Yeah.. but did you see the uncut version of Dog?
Yes, my version of Man Bites Dog was the NC-17 version. I've seen both, and I felt that the
NC-17 could've been R.
>
>Drew, who hasn't seen either Dog or Henry...
>
Rent them. Maybe you should see what all the hype is about.
Dave
Ataru Moroboshi
David Fresko wrote:
> >Drew, who hasn't seen either Dog or Henry...
> >
>
> Rent them. Maybe you should see what all the hype is about.
I thought about renting Dog from the local Blockbuster, but it is more
then likely the cut version, and I'd rather wait then see a cut version
of ANYTHING. And since I lack a vehicle at the moment, it makes it hard
to search the mom & pop stores in town for the uncut version of either
movie...
David Fresko
Ataru Moroboshi <u100...@warwick.net> wrote:
>David Fresko wrote:
>
>> >Drew, who hasn't seen either Dog or Henry...
>> >
>>
>> Rent them. Maybe you should see what all the hype is about.
>
>I thought about renting Dog from the local Blockbuster, but it is more
>then likely the cut version, and I'd rather wait then see a cut version
>of ANYTHING. And since I lack a vehicle at the moment, it makes it hard
>to search the mom & pop stores in town for the uncut version of either
>movie...
I think I said it before, but I saw the cut version first and absolutely fell in love with the
film. The main difference between the two is a rape and a death of a child.
Dave
Carlos G Diaz III
In <R.R.A.M.Baete...@kub.nl> R.R.A.M...@kub.nl (BAETEN
R.R.A.M.) writes:
>
>In article <524r2g$i...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> David Fresko
<D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>>From: David Fresko <D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net>
>>Subject: Re: HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER
>>Date: 23 Sep 1996 02:01:52 GMT
>
>
don't
but this
>film really go to me. I love Man Bites >Dog, but just can't find
anything
>likeable about Henry.
>
>
>Well, Dave, Otis is the Bad Guy, who goes crazy after feeling the
power of the
>gun. Henry doesn't, and doesn't he do Otis when the latter goes after
the girl
>in the house (whose sister was it anyway) ?
>
Becky was Otis's sister and he was trying to rape her, Henry was indeed
a killer but he felt that Otis stepped out of bounds by trying to rape
his sister. That is why she feels he likes her, then you see what
happend later.........
http://www.express-news.net/losman/vile.htm
Carlos
Webhead
I heard on the radio yesterday that a certain Otis O'Toole just died (or
executed) in prison the other day, or something like that. Wasn't this
real Otis the one they based the character of Otis from in "Henry:
Portrait..."? I guess the real Otis was in prison for dismembering some
kid (I didn't hear if it was a girl or boy). They only found the kid's
head. Also, I think I heard that the kid's father is the host for
America's Most Wanted. I may be all wrong on this, because I just
caught the story very vaugely on the radio, before I put the movie and
the radio story together.
I do remember reading that the "Henry" character was based on the
real-life serial killer, Henry Lee Lucas, though. Were Henry Lee Lucas
and Otis O'Toole friends in real life? And how close does "Henry:
Portrait of a Serial Killer" parallel Henry Lee Lucas' life.
Webhead
Ataru Moroboshi
David Fresko wrote:
> >I thought about renting Dog from the local Blockbuster, but it is more
> >then likely the cut version, and I'd rather wait then see a cut version
> >of ANYTHING. And since I lack a vehicle at the moment, it makes it hard
> >to search the mom & pop stores in town for the uncut version of either
> >movie...
>
> I think I said it before, but I saw the cut version first and absolutely fell in love > with the film. The main difference between the two is a rape and a death of a child.
I know.. but it seems to me that those two cuts would lessen the impact
of the message of the film. I'm still tempted to rent it with all of the
crap that has been coming out lately on video.. but I can wait.
mayamak
> In article <5241gc$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ya...@aol.com (YAKS) wrote:
> >This is one of my favorite horror films. It is disturbing and will stay
> >with you for years to come. Is there any information on the sequal or any
> >uncut version of the first film?
>
> How are they going to make a sequel to "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?"
> What are they going to do, call it "Henry: The Search for Otis?"
> Sheesh
> Paul Atreides
> atre...@sover.net
no, they will call it, "Henry, the Selling of a Psychopath", detailing
his rise as a media celebrity..
Tor Johnson
Webhead <web...@drfreeclouds.com> wrote:
:I do remember reading that the "Henry" character was based on the
:real-life serial killer, Henry Lee Lucas, though. Were Henry Lee Lucas
:and Otis O'Toole friends in real life?
I don't know about friends, but they killed a lot of people together. Check
out this web site: http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/serial.html
:And how close does "Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer" parallel Henry
:Lee Lucas' life.
Probably not very...
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On Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:19:21 -0700, Webhead <web...@drfreeclouds.com>
let loose with:
>I heard on the radio yesterday that a certain Otis O'Toole just died (or
>executed) in prison the other day, or something like that. Wasn't this
>real Otis the one they based the character of Otis from in "Henry:
>Portrait..."? I guess the real Otis was in prison for dismembering some
>kid (I didn't hear if it was a girl or boy). They only found the kid's
>head. Also, I think I heard that the kid's father is the host for
>America's Most Wanted. I may be all wrong on this, because I just
>caught the story very vaugely on the radio, before I put the movie and
>the radio story together.
>
>I do remember reading that the "Henry" character was based on the
>real-life serial killer, Henry Lee Lucas, though. Were Henry Lee Lucas
>and Otis O'Toole friends in real life? And how close does "Henry:
>Portrait of a Serial Killer" parallel Henry Lee Lucas' life.
>
>Webhead
I have read a few books about henry and I would say if the books are
true the movie and real life have nothing in common. From what I can
remember and its been awhile Otis was semi retarded and had a I.Q. in
the 70s or so, he also was physically handicaped.
Its been years since I have seen the movie or read about Henry but
when I did see the movie I rember being pissed it was so unlike what
the books said.
Michael Brooke
(Million $ Wedgie) (kur...@concentric.net) wrote:
: Its been years since I have seen the movie or read about Henry but
: when I did see the movie I rember being pissed it was so unlike what
: the books said.
That's a bit like criticising 'Psycho' or 'The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre' for having very little to do with the real-life exploits of
Ed Gein!
I haven't seen the film since 1990, but I don't recall that it ever
claimed that 'Henry' was supposed to be a portrait of Henry Lee Lucas.
Michael
(Million $ Wedgie)
On Sun, 29 Sep 96 10:57:06 GMT, Michael Brooke
<mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> let loose with:
>(Million $ Wedgie) (kur...@concentric.net) wrote:
>
>: Its been years since I have seen the movie or read about Henry but
>: when I did see the movie I rember being pissed it was so unlike what
>: the books said.
>
>
>
>That's a bit like criticising 'Psycho' or 'The Texas Chainsaw
>Massacre' for having very little to do with the real-life exploits of
>Ed Gein!
I think the claim that it was, was based on getting people in the
theater to see the movie.
>I haven't seen the film since 1990, but I don't recall that it ever
>claimed that 'Henry' was supposed to be a portrait of Henry Lee Lucas.
This could be the case its been as long for me also. I do remember
when I saw the movie it had many things in common with the books I
read about Lucas but not the things I really liked. Like I said its
been years and I don't remember that well.
My biggest bitch was I didn't like the movie, along with Silence of
the Lambs I think its way overrated. I hear people talk about how it
freaked them out and they were scared for days etc... I would suggest
seeing "woman under the influence" if you wanted to freaked out or try
I belive its called "Dead Ringer"
>Michael
>
David F Lynch
David Fresko (D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
:
: Yes, my version of Man Bites Dog was the NC-17 version. I've seen both, and I felt that the
Believe it or not, I think there are actually THREE versions of Man Bites
Dog. The R version, the NC-17 version, and the Unrated version, which is
the most uncut.
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David F Lynch
Webhead (web...@drfreeclouds.com) wrote:
: I heard on the radio yesterday that a certain Otis O'Toole just died (or
: executed) in prison the other day, or something like that. Wasn't this
: real Otis the one they based the character of Otis from in "Henry:
: Portrait..."? I guess the real Otis was in prison for dismembering some
: kid (I didn't hear if it was a girl or boy). They only found the kid's
: head. Also, I think I heard that the kid's father is the host for
: America's Most Wanted. I may be all wrong on this, because I just
: caught the story very vaugely on the radio, before I put the movie and
: the radio story together.
I don't know about the America's Most Wanted connection, but Otis O'Toole
was Henry Lee Lucas' assistant in real life. Basically about the last
20 minutes and all the stuff about Ottis' sister is new, I think. Myself,
I thought Man Bites Dog was a better movie; that filled me with humor turning
to total active revulsion, while Henry just gave me a dull feeling in the pit
of my stomach.
David Fresko
dfly...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David F Lynch) wrote:
>David Fresko (D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>:
>: Yes, my version of Man Bites Dog was the NC-17 version. I've seen both, and I felt that the
>: NC-17 could've been R.
>
>Believe it or not, I think there are actually THREE versions of Man Bites
>Dog. The R version, the NC-17 version, and the Unrated version, which is
>the most uncut.
>
Actually, I just remembered while skimming through my local video store, that there is NO
R-rated version of this film available. The cut version is unrated. I've seen the unrated, and
the NC-17. If there is an R-rated version I'd like to see it.
Dave
Michael Brooke
David F Lynch (dfly...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu) wrote:
: David Fresko (D.Fr...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: :
: : Yes, my version of Man Bites Dog was the NC-17 version. I've seen both, and I felt that the
: : NC-17 could've been R.
: Believe it or not, I think there are actually THREE versions of Man Bites
: Dog. The R version, the NC-17 version, and the Unrated version, which is
: the most uncut.
How can something be "the most uncut"? It's either uncut or it isn't!
In any case, you're wrong factually as well as grammatically -
though there are three different US video version of 'Man Bites Dog',
the unrated version *is* cut - it's missing the crucial rape and
child-killing scenes, which form probably the key pivotal moment in
the film, when you realise that it isn't a comedy and that Ben the
serial killer isn't the wacky humourist that he's been presented as
thus far.
The only uncut version of the film available in the US is the NC-17
version. I have no idea what's missing from the R-rated version, but
instinct tells me to recommend giving it a wide berth.
I've yet to hear of a cut European version - amazingly enough, even
the British version is uncut!
Michael
BAETEN R.R.A.M.
In article <960929194...@everyman.demon.co.uk> Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:45:30 GMT
>From: Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER
>I've yet to hear of a cut European version - amazingly enough, even
>the British version is uncut!
And the reason it remained uncut was because the committee thought it was a
Belgian film no-one would rent anyway!
the slow european (who knows something, for a change)
Michael Brooke
BAETEN R.R.A.M. (R.R.A.M...@kub.nl) wrote:
: In article <960929194...@everyman.demon.co.uk> Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> writes:
: >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:45:30 GMT
: >From: Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk>
: >Subject: Re: HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER
: >I've yet to hear of a cut European version - amazingly enough, even
: >the British version is uncut!
: And the reason it remained uncut was because the committee thought it was a
: Belgian film no-one would rent anyway!
Well, it wasn't *quite* like that in Britain, where there was
considerable debate over the rape scene, but the censors finally
decided that it was absolutely vital to the plot (which it was: I
couldn't believe it when I heard that the so-called unrated US version
chopped it out).
It certainly *helped* that the film was in black and white with
subtitles, but that in itself won't guarantee that a film gets through
unscathed. In any case, it was pretty obvious by the time it went
through the BBFC that the film would get rather more publicity than
the average low-budget Belgian film!
Michael
Sarmad Sheikh
WRONG!!!
Henry was released in Britain CUT!
About a minute was taken away from the cinema version.
A further minute was taken away from the Video version.
Missing scenes include the shots of Henry's dead victims,
Henry and Otis making a snuff movie and watching it over and
over again, etc.
take care,
Sarmad.
wehu...@infinet.com
In article <960929105...@everyman.demon.co.uk>, Michael Brooke
<mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> (Million $ Wedgie) (kur...@concentric.net) wrote:
>
> : Its been years since I have seen the movie or read about Henry but
> : when I did see the movie I rember being pissed it was so unlike what
> : the books said.
>
>
>
> That's a bit like criticising 'Psycho' or 'The Texas Chainsaw
> Massacre' for having very little to do with the real-life exploits of
> Ed Gein!
You're right, of course.
> I haven't seen the film since 1990, but I don't recall that it ever
> claimed that 'Henry' was supposed to be a portrait of Henry Lee Lucas.
It was based on Lucas--but only very loosely.
Bill