> > On Nov 24, 4:53 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Nov 24, 8:55 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I think there are reasons why apparent suicides should not be
> > > > mentioned, mainly because of the likelihood of copy-cats.

> > > > I am very upset about a Japanese movie that depicts 54 Japanese girls
> > > > holding hands and smiling as they jump in front of a subway train and
> > > > kill themselves. Such a movie should never have been made (even though
> > > > it was a commercial and financial success) and, since it was made, it
> > > > should never be shown, I am sorry I saw it myself.

> > > > Sam Sloan

> > > You saw a snuff film and failed to report it to police?   You are more
> > > sleazy than the real Sam Sloan, or Charlie Sheen.  Sheen once reported
> > > to police what he thought was a snuff film (turns out it was fake, but
> > > it shows Sheen does have some sense of morality).

> > > RL

> > The movie I describe was not a "snuff film". It was a first run movie
> > that won prizes at the Cannes Film Festival, especially for the scene
> > where the wheel of the subway train runs over the teenaged girls head
> > and splatters blood all over everywhere.

> > In my opinion the movie should never have been made and should never
> > be shown. It shows how low movie producers will go to make a buck.

> > Sam Sloan

> It turns out, having spoke to a Hollywood producer, that the cheapest
> and most profitable film you can make is aslasher/horror film.  The
> actors can be no-names that you can kill off in the movie so you don't
> have to worry about them making demands in any remake (see for example
> any "Final Destination XYZ" film), and the public worldwide loves
> these films.

> The hardest films to make are ones that depict sex in any serious way
> (except porn), because of worldwide taboos.  And forget about mixing
> children with animals and humor--a disaster!  Comic films are also
> difficult to make unless you have a name-brand actor like Jim Carrey,
> Peter Sellers, John Candy, Jerry Lewis, Steve Martin, etc, and you
> notice now that these actors are retired or dead, you don't see any
> comedies much on the silver screen?

> Hollywood is all formulaic, predictable crap, not far removed, if not
> identical to, Bollywood fare but without the song and dance.  No
> wonder I hardly go to the movies.

> > Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
> > In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
> > an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
> > is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
> > shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
> > seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
> > with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
> > Any ideas?

> I have contacts in NYC but I don't want my real identity compromised
> my mentioning them here.  As there are six degrees of Kevin Bacon in
> this world, chances are you know some of the same people.  In short,
> ask your NYC friends.

> And slasher films are still cheap and profitable--not unlike Mexican
> food in the restaurant business.  There's always more room in this
> world and in people's stomachs for another greasy, gaseous taco.

> As for horror, I see Final Destination 5 had a sizable budget and
> barely broke even--I guess they spent a lot of money on the special
> effects (it was 3D).  Certainly not on the disposable and all killed
> off at the end actors.

> Why don't you start with script writing Sam?  For a couple of weeks of
> work you can pick up $10k to $100k--not bad--and they might let you
> loiter around the set when they shoot.

> RL

> Final Destination 5

> Domestic Total Gross: $42,587,643
> Distributor: Warner Bros. (New Line)    Release Date: August 12, 2011
> Genre: Horror   Runtime: 1 hrs. 35 min.
> MPAA Rating: R  Production Budget: $40 million

>  I fear my
> reputation would be ruined if I starting writing scripts for these
> kind of movies,

> > On Dec 26, 1:01 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
> > > In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
> > > an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
> > > is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
> > > shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
> > > seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
> > > with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
> > > Any ideas?

> > I have contacts in NYC but I don't want my real identity compromised
> > my mentioning them here.  As there are six degrees of Kevin Bacon in
> > this world, chances are you know some of the same people.  In short,
> > ask your NYC friends.

> > And slasher films are still cheap and profitable--not unlike Mexican
> > food in the restaurant business.  There's always more room in this
> > world and in people's stomachs for another greasy, gaseous taco.

> > As for horror, I see Final Destination 5 had a sizable budget and
> > barely broke even--I guess they spent a lot of money on the special
> > effects (it was 3D).  Certainly not on the disposable and all killed
> > off at the end actors.

> > Why don't you start with script writing Sam?  For a couple of weeks of
> > work you can pick up $10k to $100k--not bad--and they might let you
> > loiter around the set when they shoot.

> > RL

> > Final Destination 5

> > Domestic Total Gross: $42,587,643
> > Distributor: Warner Bros. (New Line)    Release Date: August 12, 2011
> > Genre: Horror   Runtime: 1 hrs. 35 min.
> > MPAA Rating: R  Production Budget: $40 million

> I actually have a lot of ideas and when I see some of the really
> terrible movies that nevertheless get made I think I can do better.

> What got me on this subject is I am writing up some Linda Blair
> movies. There is a truly bankable top level star and everybody knows
> her name but nevertheless she descended to making Class C movies. Some
> of the budgets for those movies were less than I thought she would be
> paid.

> I am not sure what this proves. I am a bit like you in that I fear my
> reputation would be ruined if I starting writing scripts for these
> kind of movies, not that I have such a pristine pure reputation
> already.

> The basic plot line is: All the girls have sex and then they get
> chopped up into little pieces except that there is one girl who does
> not have sex and she survives.

> Is the world still ready for a few more movies like that?

>   Sam, for you this is like a porn star worrying that she might show
> too much ankle.