Thank you for being here. May the Higher Power or Powers bless each
and every one of you.
And I thank Richard O'Brien, the World of Rocky Horror - including every
talented actor or actress who has ever made this story and it's characters come
to life either on screen or on stage and those who continue to, and Mr. Tim
Curry for all the joy and comfort you all brought to these past few years
through the timeless piece of art known as the Rocky Horror Show.
--
Mysti
(Just don't throw your backs out tryin'. :))
--
Mysti
I dont know you, and because of that Im not going to patronize you by telling
you all kinds of reasons why you should do this. All Im going to say
is...wait. Wait 12 hours and see if you still feel this way. Im sure you can
remember times in the past where you really wanted to die, decided not to, and
then later felt a bit better about the whole thing. Maybe even had a good time
doing something or other since then.
Also, suicide is not so glorious. Your body will be a mess, and there is a
good chance you will never know who came to your funural.
I dont know if its appropriate to post anything, but I couldnt just sit on my
hands. I tried googling your email address and nicknames, but couldnt find
anything I could use for a third-party contact.
I see from your post you have friends, but hey, if you want to email me go
ahead. I've been there.
--
~kate
Fishnet, Inc (www.rhps-fishnetinc.com)
Sincere Lust
Castle Transylvanians
fred
< Then Im driving up to a secluded area that I found earlier today>
If you are using this location as a spot for your suicide, and you
discovered it only earlier today, then it would indicate that your suicide plan
is more spur-of-the-moment and not something that you have given much time to
ponder over.
A human life, no matter what the condition or situation, isnt something that
should be snuffed out without thinking things through well.
If your post is real, and not a "cry for help" or "attention getter" or even
a lame-ass joke, then I would suggest you give yourself some time. You can
always still kill yourself a week, month, year, etc later...going to a location
that you just found today and taking the big trip may not be the wisest if
ideas just yet.
THINK THIS THROUGH.
Time is an amazing thing-it heals most wounds, and temporal distance (letting
time pass for a bit) has a way of giving you a different point of view other
than how you feel when caught up in "the moment."
Looking back, most problems (broken heart, loss of a loved one, medical
problems, etc) often seem not that bad in hindsight.
And there are the other factors: how this will effect your family ( you have
a responsibility to them NOT to off yourself, ya know), not to mention the
possibility that you may be making one hell of a big mistake.
It is the fate of ALL of us living to be worm food eventually...why rush it?
Give yourself a day or three before making a final decision.
Just a thought or two.
Brennan
"Once upon a time
Once when you were mine
I remember skies
Reflected in your eyes
I wonder where you are
I wonder if you think about me
Once upon a time
In our wildest dreams."
"A Timplistic Girl" <mystics...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:necznozin7...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
In article <necznozin7...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Timplistic Girl
<mystics...@yahoo.com> says...
--
Give yourself over to Absolute Pleasure T-Shirts!!
In article <20030512024100...@mb-m17.aol.com>, u62...@aol.com
(U62van) says...
Tiffany
Head Transie of the Sweet Translucent Dreams cast of Coaldale, PA
< Thats why Americans and most people are shooting and robbing each other.>
Kev, ya seem like a nice guy and I appreciate your posts here on the
newsgroup, and your advice to the person that is/was contemplating suicide is
right-on, BUT...
Please dont single out Americans as the main people who kill, and the add
"and most people".
If one looks hard and close enough, one will find blood on the hands of EVERY
GOVERNMENT existing now, or ever.
Bill " Born in the USA " Brennan
" Life is but a dream. "
Just a thought from an American.
Have you been able to contact Mysti yet?
Dawn
Back Row Productions Emcee
www.rhpsbackrow.com
In article <20030512232852...@mb-m14.aol.com>, jojo...@aol.com
(Dawn ) says...
I found this post last night, and did what I could. I emailed her, and had
a friend do a search. She is not on any cast, and we didn't find what area
she went to shows in. If we knew what cast she went to, then chances are
she's a regular. All we could figure out is that she's in the Central
timezone.
I'll admit I had a hard time falling asleep last night. I've recieved
letters like this before, even from a girl I was dating in high school. My
heart goes out to Mysti, as well as her friends and family.
--
Paul J. White- Eddie, MC
Barely Legal- Oakland, CA
http://barelylegal.rhps.org
PWI Manager-in-Training
http://www.prowrestlingiron.com
"Beverly Gerrish" <oldsp...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1ni3ad34aip...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
In article <ji%va.111731$pa5.1...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>, "CheshireEddie"
<pwhit...@attbi.com> says...
Marc Berman "Still the National Jew of Rocky Horror"
Performer- WUT WUT!!!
Wild and Untamed Things,
http://wut.rhps.org
drdi...@aol.com
ex BL member =(
http://www.barelylegal.rhps.org
Awarded "Biggest Nut on the Net"-2001
To Misty.
If you have left your pain that you could not handle behind. Then I
hope that you have found the peace that you we're looking for. In finding your
peace, you have passed your pain on to those who knew and loved you and even
to those who did not, to forever hold a torch in our harts and remember your
name as another missing child of Rocky. My only wish is that we could have
help you tote that pain in life and to see you find your peace here instead of
further on. May you dream, forever and always be happy. Goodnight Sweet
Princess. Your left us with a lesion, that we wish you could have never taught.
In article <necznozin7...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Timplistic Girl
<mystics...@yahoo.com> says...
--
John Tyndall
Doing my part to make the Bible Belt a Garter.
Also playing Dr.Frank for the cast F5-Charming Assholes
Spartanburg SC
www.farleyflavors5.com
A Timplistic Girl <mystics...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<necznozin7...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>...
In article <14dwdjwqb3k...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Kevin O'Brien
<webu...@hotmail.com> says...
--
John Tyndall
"Remember all the Mysti in the world and help the ones we have left" Peace
Doing my part to make the Bible Belt a Garter.
Also playing Dr.Frank for the cast F5-Charming Assholes
Easley SC
www.farleyflavors5.com
I'm, gonna search through some of her links. her favourite singers- Alanis
Morissette (I like her too), Christina augilera, Nelly Furtado, Pink.
Her quote- We're all beautiful, no matter what they say.
I think she was someone who may have analyzed life- just hear alanis's songs-
its not your bubblegum lyrics, your teeny bopper- it's insightful. She might've
been insightful, a deep person, probably shy but not hurting many people. I
hope she didn't do this. Maybe we should start a board if her suicide's
confirmed, just to commemorate her- and update it every week with prayers for
her soul.
I feel much of the agonizing on this board, but I also agree with Dr. Dmitri's
assessment. Suicide is cowardly. Honestly, it's not so difficult to end your
own life. It's spectacularly easy, in fact. It's also not a method most
people respect if you're doing it just because life is hard. Life IS hard, no
one was ever promised otherwise. Suicide is not courageous at all. A sign of
true courage is going on with your life and fighting your battles and learning
from your mistakes and improving yourself as a human being, not giving in.
Suicide puts all your pain and more on those who care about you, and obviously
even those who don't know you.
We've lost many people in RHPS to many things, including suicide. There was a
kid in my cast years ago who used to be our videographer. He left our show one
night and hung himself in his attic. No warning, no 'cry for help', nothing
but a note for his parents. Imagine how THEY felt. And yes, I DO remember
his name and it still comes up sometimes though I won't state it here because
it's not necessary. Mostly, after we got over the initial shock, many of us
were angry because he didn't tell us he was hurting, we might have helped him
and shown him he wasn't alone and he passed that pain and the guilt of it onto
the very group he claimed to love so much. You hurt SOOOO many more people
than you realize when you even threaten suicide, imagine what happens when you
actually DO it.
All I can say to this person is I hope you didn't do it. It's not an answer,
it's not peaceful or respectful or spiritual or deep. Everyone's singing
about it, writing poetry about it, and even doing it, so it's become cliche',
oddly enough. And if you didn't, I hope you don't come onto this board again
because in spite of our relief, many MANY of us will be angry and deeply
insulted by the game you played.
Suicide is not a joke. It's not a game. It's not a solution, it's merely the
cowards way out.
MIBecky
In message <zma91vju5z...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Kevin O'Brien
<webu...@hotmail.com> may be typing while naked. I am replying with extreme
caution...
I echo your sentiments. It is not a solution. I also agree it is an
insult. Who here can claim that their life has never been fucked up? I
certainly can't. For someone to choose the road out, is a slap to the faces
of all of us who are struggling to get through life as best we can.
I hope she is safe somewhere. I also hope we can get some sign either way,
so we can know.
> And if you didn't, I hope you don't come onto this board again
> because in spite of our relief, many MANY of us will be angry and deeply
> insulted by the game you played.
>
> Suicide is not a joke. It's not a game. It's not a solution, it's merely
the
> cowards way out.
>
> MIBecky
--
GREAT summary, Paul. You too, Becky. You both took what I said and let it flow.
Correction though, Paul. It was NATE who said he hoped she knocked on the door
instead of leaving the flower. Which is a very cool idea. I hope she did too.
Hopefully, Mysti is somewhere safe, now. I hope she is getting treatment and
counciling, instead of what we all think. Yes, all of us had to endure lots
over the years. Some more than others. But, we muttle through. Fred with her
house. Loss of loved ones. Loss of cast members. Loss of dear friends. Hell
some of us lost a couple friends in the matter of months. It's not the easiest
thing to deal with.
Life sucks. How do you go on trying to pretend things are easy when you have to
console friends? Simple....you don't. BUT, you do go on and try to make the
best of the time you are given. We struggle to make things better for
ourselves. To be more than a statistic. THESE are the kinds of things I'd want
from my friends and loved ones, after my time comes. To know that they are
continuing on with their lives is the best. Knowing my memory is kept alive
because of love and friendship, not out of pity. Not being thought of as a
coward who obviously didn't care enough to seek help.
I have broken away from so many different groups over the years. BUT, my
friends and family always remain dear. Those who have been there for me,
through REALLY rough times, with advice and just being there.......I love you
for it. And I am here for you as well. =)
"Nate Havoc" <nate...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1b368ea0.03051...@posting.google.com...
Mysti, if you're reading this, respond. Let us know you're alive. I've lost
too many people to various things including suicide. I went down that road
myself when I was just 13. If I told you the things that accumulated to make me
feel that way at 13, it would be similar in some respects to Bev's history.
That's tough for a 13 year old to live thru. BUT I LIVED THRU IT. And I'm one
of the strongest people I know, partially BECAUSE I lived thru it. I'm not
without scars, both psychological and physical, but that's life, Mysti. That's
life, there's NOTHING new under the sun and it's been going on for thousands of
years. I don't know ONE person who is unmarked by some tragedy either recent
or not, and we aren't done yet. There are still some tragic things that will
happen, no doubt of that, but we'll come thru. There will be WONDERFUL things,
too, and do you really want to miss those things? I'm not going to say I would
trade those horrible experiences for anything in the world because then I
wouldn't be ME. But let's look at if I HAD succeeded at suicide at 13: No
prom. No first kiss. No wonderful husband. No RHPS family. Others I have
talked down would have died. No chance to hold my newborn nephew, the child I
won't ever have myself, in my arms. They say God doesn't give you trials in
your life that you don't already have the strength to overcome. I'm not a
religious person, but I'm not an Athiest either. You DO have the strength to
overcome whatever life throws at you. And you WILL be stronger and happier
after you come through.
You are loved. You are worried about. Please respond.
MIBecky
In message <nrmwa.318408$Si4.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "Charles
DuPont" <transy...@NOSPAM.attbi.com> may be typing while naked. I am
replying with extreme caution...
> I got to an executive, who could actually go into the account, but
>said she wouldn't because it's a breech of privacy. Even after I forwarded
>her the original posts, and she said "Sorry, there's really nothing we can
>do!"
Fucking Amazing! I can't even respond to this right now. Nate, thanks for
trying.
That is so lousy. The exec. couldnt even get into the account on his own to
try call a phone number or something himself?
I wonder if it wouldnt be a bad idea to alert some kind of media to tell them
that Yahoo! has/had the oppertunity to prevent a tragedy and did nothing.
and will contact soon after a few more searches.
In article <1qj0284p277...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, MIBecky
<mibec...@yahoo.com> says...
http://www.rockynewsgroup.org/faqs.html
However, I said nothing about not sharing usage information (though this will be
a first even for that). And in this particularly sick and twisted case, I have
no compunctions about doing so (sorry Timplistic Girl, but that was fucked up).
Her original article was posted at 11:14pm CDT on May 11th. Here is the usage
history on her account after that date, taken directly from the web site access
logs:
May 11th - 11:40pm (Home Page)
May 11th - 11:50pm (Home Page, then re-read both articles she posted)
May 12th - 12:27am (Home Page)
May 12th - 12:35am (Home Page)
May 12th - 12:46am (Home Page, then read "A Groupie"'s initial reply)
May 12th - 3:15am (Home Page, then read Bill Brennan's reply)
May 14th - 2:26am through 2:56am (Home Page, then read all accumulated replies
in her thread and searched for all articles posted by Charles DuPont)
May 14th - 3:12am (Home Page)
May 14th - 3:27am (Home Page)
May 14th - 3:53am (Home Page)
May 14th - 4:31am (Home Page, then read an unrelated article by John Tyndall
in the "Underwear Run" thread)
May 14th - 5:11am (Home Page, then read a couple of articles in the "who is
mysticsparkles?" thread)
May 14th - 6:15am (Home Page)
That's it thus far, and I'm leaving her account alone since there's no reason to
do anything to it. Interpret the above usage history however you wish, but I
wouldn't be terribly worried about her myself.
P.S. For anyone worried about the above sort of information on the
RockyNewsgroup.org webserver, yes it does (like pretty much every webserver in
existence) log every access of every web page for statistical purposes. Those
logs are rotated out once a month, and are not normally subjected to this kind
of scrutiny since for one thing it's a pain in the ass and another...who really
cares?
--
Shawn McHorse | Article posted through RockyNewsgroup.org -
Queerios (Austin, Texas) | the Rocky Horror Usenet newsgroup archive.
http://www.queerios.org | http://www.rockynewsgroup.org
could it be that someone in her household (mom, etc) is reading this, and not
her? Or did she log in every time?
Kate
In article <1lfggg01att...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Shawn McHorse
<sh...@rockymusic.org> says...
LOL Wow. That's friendship.
The person who runs the TC list has already deleted me from her group. (Not
that I care, she was a first-class beotch who never liked me anyway.)
I've been to the edge more times than I can count, wanting to end my life. "It
takes no guts" my ass. That's like being at the very edge of a cliff, with a
ax murderer on your tail. No matter which way you decide to go... you're
dead.
The only reason my attempt didn't work the first night was because I made the
mistake of crushing my pills into a drink. Nasty taste. You know how it is
when something is SOOO disgusting it's just automatic reflex to gag it up? I
couldn't keep it down no matter how hard I tried. What a mess. Take two,
second night- cut my left wrist so deep, there's just a thin veil of skin
covering my vein. If I press it with my thumb I can see it turn red. That's
of course what happens when blood reaches the surface.
I truly appreciate the kind hearts of some people here. And I'm sorry for your
tears. I regret even posting anything here. I shouldn't have said anything at
all. It's caused good people unneccessary worry over someone they don't even
know (and probably wouldn't care about if they did), and only served to further
project the true colors of the cold society I was totally right about all
along.
Just a joke? Please. Something like that would've never even occurred to me.
And you call *me* the one with the sick idea of humor.
--
Mysti
In article <1hx1w9uirq6...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Timplistic Girl
<mystics...@yahoo.com> says...
Why didnt you respond to any of the *other* posts, saying you were still alive?
A lot of suicidal people have the same fantasy...they are dead, they are at
their funeral, and all their family, friends, and enemies are standing around
their grave, crying about what they should have done, how they should have
treated them, and how much they are going to be missed.
It seems a bit like you were getting off on this fantasy a bit without dying.
That is said without judgement. Im glad you are alive. I personally dont see
a lot of difference between a "sucessful" suicide and a "cry for help." They
both say pretty much the same thing. The majority of people who are sucessful
just went a little far in their cry for help. There are, indeed, some people
who really want to die, but they are not in the majority.
If you were crying for help, then get some. I dont know how old you are, but
if you are living at home the best thing you could do is tell your parents. If
not, sign yourself in at a clinic.
In article <1hx1w9uirq6...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Timplistic Girl
<mystics...@yahoo.com> says...
Welcome back. I am happy that you are still with us. If you need to talk,
email me and i will give you a call if you like.
I never replied to your posting....Mainly because I am new to this
newsgroup...But I had a heart felt plee that you would be ok....and I have
read every posting as I possibly could. Just to find out if you were still
with us. I am sure everyone here has done exactly the same too.
I remember what it is like to feel suicidal and I have also seen it from a
friends point of view too..At present I am taking anti depressants, due to
my emotions and feelings, even thoughts....I know how hard it is to actually
do it, but I also know how good it feels when you do fight each daily
battle.
I'm 30 years old and have been a Rocky fan since I was about 14 years of
age, yet I as yet have never got to see it on stage....I still want to
though.....Isn't that a reason to live? For you to see another one....Find
things that you want to achieve or do, however small or large. Find
something possible at first then work your way up.
The only way I can help (since I live in the U.K) is really to tell you
about myself.....
I've been dealing with depression for near enough 17years now....I know the
signs and I know where to get help and I also have the courage to face
it...But that took time, so don't feel a failure if you can't...But I hope
you do. It all started at the age of 13 when I lost my grandfather to
Cancer...Nobody told me anything back then, so I felt alone....I couldn't
speak to my mother (my close confident), because it was her father that had
died. So I decided to try and deal with it all myself (Not a good move). I
suppose this maybe why I try and deal with things first, yet I find things
always gets out of hand, until I ask for help. At this time I was also
getting bullied. Which I found to be very upsetting. I had no confidence
or self esteem, due to the bullies using pychological war fare on me...I
didn't have many freinds I could trust either. At 16 this got worse, my
friend had just had a baby and she didn't see me as much....Yet it was due
to this little baby, that I could not kill myself at the time....How would
she explain it to this little girl when she got older? Years past, I got
married, my marriage was failing and when I was 22 years old and still
married, I got raped in my sleep by a friend of a friend...I never went to
the police, one of my friends didn't believe me and I felt I really couldn't
talk it through with many people....Basically, I felt alone. Even in a
crowded room....A few years later, I made a bad mistake. I had an affair
with a married man and then my marriage fell to pieces....I felt low and
suicidal....But I at that time had a neice who had just been born..She was
my angel and still is. I later got engaged to another man, we were together
for 3 and a half years...He left me for another woman, who later in that
same year got pregnant...I was devastated! The depression and suicidal
thoughts were back...But this time I found something to aim for...Not for
someone else, but me! I enrolled at my local college to gain better
qualifications and last year I got my reward...I entered university....I
have been depressed since being here, I hope to change my course, because I
am finding it harder than I expected...Plus some personal problems I have to
deal with....Yet, I did find help....Life is short enough...Please find
something to make life worth living...I have a neice of 6 now...friend's
children who I dearly love...( I haven't any of my own, not for the want of
trying) I couldn't however much I feel like suicide, actually do it...Yet
at times, I really am tempted.
We all care, we have been and felt exactly how you are feeling...Perhaps not
in the same way, but we understand...You've had offers of people being there
for you. Even some willing to phone and talk to you....If no one else, take
them up on it....But get help.
A caring friend, Liz
"A Timplistic Girl" <mystics...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1euwi9186nk...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
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Mysti, remember what I said about games? Yes, it IS cowardly. Yes it DOES
hurt people. It does NOT hurt you like it hurts those around you - after you're
dead the rest of those in your world are left with the pain and the shards of
your life to pick up. It takes no guts, only selfishness, and you have PLAINLY
displayed extreme selfishness here. Momentary desire or impulse does not
equate courage, strength or guts. There's a big difference. How dare you come
out and blast ANYONE for stating their opinions when all you did was lurk for
days and reap the benefits of the outpouring of emotion on this list! You
could have come online and posted MUCH MUCH sooner than this if you truly gave
a damn about the horrible affect you've had on most people here. How dare you
think you can use something like threatening suicide to bolster your ego! How
dare you make people pull their hair out worrying for you! You made several
people spend a lot of time trying to figure out what happened to your selfish
ass. Does that make you feel validated? Does it feel GOOD to know you had
this affect on strangers? Does it feel GOOD to use people like that? You're a
fraud. This newsgroup service asks you "Are you sure you want to post this"
before it posts, and you have to click "ok". It gives you a second chance to
reword your post, or even erase it. So that means you chose TWICE to post your
original "suicide note". Doesn't sound ao impulsive to me at all. It actually
sounds calculated. 'cry for help' my ass! That was more like a 'Broadway
Musical for help'! And WE produced it unknowingly!
And you're STILL getting offers of help! These are the people who's chain you
pulled. These are the people who you made WORRIED about you for no good
reason. I hope you feel good about yourself for the effect you have and the
games you play. Suicide IS easy. You just didn't really want to do it. And
don't tell me or anyone else here that we don't know what we're talking about.
Most of us are the SURVIVORS, Mysti. That's what RHPS is comprised of - don't
further insult us on top of everything else you've done by telling any one of
us we don't know what we're talking about. YOU are the ignorant child here,
not the rest of us.
Funny how it took the ONE long post about how cowardly it is to suicide, and
how hurtful it is, to pull you out of your selfish reviree and make you reveal
yourself that way. Not everyone would stand around at your 'funeral' crying
and thinking what a waste it is. Some of us would be thinking about your
selfishness and your ego and your lack of caring for the rest of your life or
the effect you have on others.
I hope you feel good about yourself, Mysti. I think you're the only one here
who does. And you seem like just the type to try it again out of revenge for
those of us who saw thru it in the first place. You know what? If that
happens, I'll feel guilty, but part of me would think that your SUCCESS at
suicide was an accident. And only a real fool would do something like that as
revenge on others. Are you that kind of fool? From what I've read here, it's
quite possible.
Does anyone know if this has an "ignore" feature? I've NEVER used one before,
but I'm going to now. No one has ever proved themselves this far beneath my
attention that I would 'ignore' them, and I've been in a LOT of altercations
here. But I'm really eager to use it now.
MIBecky
"Dawn " <jojo...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030514124115...@mb-m01.aol.com...
If you did this to get attention, it worked! If you truly did crush your
pills into a drink (yech) then you truly need help. If you sliced your
wrist that deep, and it didn't bleed, nor need medical attention then you're
either thick skinned, or a vampyre.
Do yourself, as well as all those around you a favour. Check yourself into a
mental hospital. Get the help you need. Life is so worth living, and
honey, you have all of yours ahead of you. Don't ever do that to us again!
I told you a was too pissed to post.
I don't want to be a flamer here, but... I really hope you're happy about
disrupting people's lives with what looks to me like a cry for attention to
pump up your ego. I know cries for help... But after making people cry, lay
in their own beds unable to sleep wondering if you were alright, still alive,
or laying in a ditch somewhere with a bullet hole in your head, you had the
NERVE to come back on here and shoot your mouth off to people who were
skeptical about the post? I wonder why they were... perhaps because there are
people like -you- out there? I'm sure you're enjoying all the people that are
so happy to see you alive that they're 'fawning' as someone else called it, all
over you, but princess, you're not going to get that here. I'm probably only a
few years older than you, and I've been through things that most people twice
my age haven't. Now. If you had actually chosen to kill yourself, that would
have been your choice. One that I would have found abhorrent and selfish, but
your choice. I've done my share of whining about my admittedly crappy life,
and I've come quite close to killing myself, if you couldn't notice from the
useless trivia section of the posting. But at least I never took gods know how
many people on my ups and downs with me, forcing them to go through it as
well.
Bottom line: You DO need help, yes. My personal opinion is that you're a
slightly disturbed girl, but your main problem is that you're selfish and
spoiled. You look for and crave attention any way you can get it, so much that
you want total strangers to worry and care about you. But the easy way, by
shocking them into revealing their better natures, rather than actually getting
to know them and befriending them like the rest of us have to. I suggest that
you find yourself a therapist, and possibly go on some medication, because you
also sound like, as someone else mentioned, you're suffering from depression.
Yes. Depression sucks. But it's not an excuse for treating good people like
your personal entertainment. Get some help and get a life for yourself.
I totally agree with you, MIBecky... but that's typical of Mysti (as
I've seen on the TC mailing list) and I suspected all along that she
was watching and seeing who would respond on the lists she's
subscribed to. She's certainly not making friends by acting like this.
BTW I'm the first class b*tch that moderates the Tim Curry mailing
list that she mentioned earlier. I'm not mad about the public slander,
I just consider the source. Those on this newsgroup (including Shawn
McHorse, Ruth Fink-Winter, Bill Brennan, etc...) who know me, know I'm
a reasonable person (most of the time, I have my moments just like
anyone else) LOL.
-Christine Z.
Webmistress/Artist/Owner of the following:
http://www.rockymusic.org/zachman/
It's a shame, because she's victimizing so many people who truly need help and
now more people will be skeptical. SHE needs help, but she's more interested
in playing mind games than getting help, so I honestly have no sympathy for
her. Some people sweep themselves under the rug faster than society can, and
then they whine about it. It's almost fashionable to be wounded, isn't it?
It's fashionable to be weak and whiney and dour. Yes, it's a cruel world. No,
I'm not offended I was accused of being part of that heartless world. I'm not
living in a fantasy land, I try to be a realist, and that includes taking your
bruises and learning from them. You can't whine about life being hard and
expect anyone to be surprised or moved by your 'revelation'. Life is hard for
EVERYONE on this planet, you're no different and neither am I, and I have no
sympathy for people who would rather wallow in it than actually seek help and
work on it. I'm not asking anyone to go it alone, deffinately get help like
Shawn did, but DAMN, don't HURT people just to relieve your pain. It's
pitiful. It's cowardly. It's selfish. It's beneath contempt. Sorry to sound
so heartless, but there it is. I speak from brutal experience, and I refuse
to whine about it. I'm not saying EVERYONE should have my strength, I'm saying
people should have sympathy for their fellow sufferers (that's ALL of us) and
not burden the rest of us with imagined pain and imagined suicide attempts.
Get help. It's available everywhere. I would take ANYONE under my wing, put
a friendly arm around them and give them a shoulder to cry on, if they
honestly were asking for help. In fact, I do it all the time, just like many
of you do. But not if they were only out to play games and pump up their
ego.
Thanks, guys, for confirming Mark, Paul and I aren't the only ones on this NG
who feel this way. This ain't High School, it's life.
MIBecky
In message <f9db215d.03051...@posting.google.com>,
c...@rockymusic.org (Zachman Gallery) may be typing while naked. I am
replying with extreme caution...
MIBecky
In message <3d74juqfd6...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, MIBecky
<mibec...@yahoo.com> may be typing while naked. I am replying with
I love how you ended your post Becky, because it's so true. This type of
morbid behavior is the act of a child, and should remain in High School.
Hell, I always say I graduated HS to finally get away from this shit.
I definately rescind the email I sent to Mysti, and looking back, I should
have just finished shutting down my computer like I was in the process of
doing when I stumbled on her post. BUT I'm glad I didn't. I thought a
family member was hurting, and I tried to do what little I could to help.
I'm not ashamed of that. I'm only ashamed of Mysti.
--
Paul J. White- Eddie, MC
Barely Legal- Oakland, CA
http://barelylegal.rhps.org
PWI Manager-in-Training
http://www.prowrestlingiron.com
"MIBecky" <mibec...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3d74juqfd6...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
Yes, Rocky is a family, and in it's own strange way, this also helped to prove
it. Several people who didnt know each other "in person" were teaming up to
try to help someone they believed was hurting. I had an email exchange with
Paul (my email server is down, or I could double check which paul) who I had
never spoken to before, trying to help out Mysti, and I know several others
were having similar exchanges trying to see what we could do. It didnt matter
that I hadnt spoken to him before, he was in my Rocky family. We did prove
that we could join together in the face of advirsity.
And as angry as some people are now (and Im not about to deny those feelings),
I know that if someone else posted that they were in distress, people here
would come together again.
~Kate "just call me miss Suzie Sunshine"
In article <Mvexa.350740$Si4.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "CheshireEddie"
<pwhit...@attbi.com> says...
--
Paul J. White- Eddie, MC
Barely Legal- Oakland, CA
http://barelylegal.rhps.org
PWI Manager-in-Training
http://www.prowrestlingiron.com
"A Groupie" <colu...@sluggy.net> wrote in message
news:18zsvs3tns8...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
*grumbles about email server*
In article <9jgxa.351819$Si4.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "CheshireEddie"
<pwhit...@attbi.com> says...
But yeah, it's not soured me against trying to help people. It's just
reaffirmed the fact there are still some people who have no respect for others
and they'd rather play games than actually get the help they know they need in
their heart of hearts. It's also taught me to further trust my gut instinct.
I didn't want to listen to it this time, I'm glad most of me did.
And I think this did serve to strengthen us a bit. I mean, we have further
evidence of the family feeling now, as if we needed the reminder. I agonized,
but I didn't go out of my way like Nate did, and like Paul and Kate did. I'm
more angry for the effect it had on YOU guys than the effect it had on me.
Love to you all. I'm proud to be a part of this family.
MIBecky
In message <18zsvs3tns8...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Groupie
<colu...@sluggy.net> may be typing while naked. I am replying with extreme
caution...
I too share the pride in calling this "riff raff" family. Nobody can ever
change that!
> From: "Maya Love" <hippie...@attbi.com>
> To: <sh...@rockymusic.org>
> Subject: Information
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:58:20 -0700
>
> If you would like legitmate contact information of the doctor who
> treated me the night of May 14, the hospital I was treated at, phone
> numbers of my family and friends, SCANS of my medical shit..........
>
> you're more than free to ask, Shawn.
>
> You guys are scum.
>
> But if you want legits, you've certainly got them.
>
> Mysti
> From: "Maya Love" <hippie...@attbi.com>
> To: <sh...@rockymusic.org>
> Subject: P.S.
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:01:12 -0700
>
> If you ask for phone numbers of my friends and family....... and I WILL
> provide them..... you will *hardly* hear of the conniving prankster some
> of you jerks have made me out to be.
>
> Excuse the hell out of me for assuming you guys were friends.
>
> You fucking ass holes.
>
> Mysti
> From: "Maya Love" <hippie...@attbi.com>
> To: <sh...@rockymusic.org>
> Subject: The people who are genuinally.....
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:07:12 -0700
>
> ..... helping me right now are the people I should've turned to in the
> first place.
>
> The church.
>
> Maybe they're right. Maybe RHPS *is* evil. Because you fucks basically
> told me if I didn't actually kill myself, I was no longer part of their
> "family." (Or should I say CULT?)
>
> That's pretty fucked up in itself.
I think she blames you because you had the audacity to expose her for a fraud.
Which makes it YOUR fault, of course!
Wow. Some people. Sorry you're dealing with her juvenile outbursts. Anyone
else gotten any messages of love from Mysti? Sorry Mysti, darling. We're not
into liars and egotistical children, especially when they're so full of
misdirected rage. If your family and friends think so highly of you, and you
KNOW they think highly enough of you that you'd offer to use them as a
character reference, your life COULDN'T have been so bad as to require you to
suicide. You're making even less sense. Just can it. Drop out, little girl,
if this is how you choose to conduct yourself when you've been exposed for the
person you are.
MIBecky
In message <i4v8j6dmld...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Shawn McHorse
<sh...@rockymusic.org> may be typing while naked. I am replying with extreme
caution...
and most importantly of all --- *Offering Legitimate Facts* --- spamming?
Hmmmm, maybe you're afraid to ask, because you're afraid I'll deliver?
Mysti
My.
What *other* people will go through to stick to their negative BS accusations
and assumptions about someone who foolishly thought she was among friends.
--
Mysti (Whose counselor told me that no one who is wrestling with suicide
should be made to feel ashamed for reaching out in any **way, shape, or form**)
I'm not so stupid as to leave my real email up on a Newsgroup. That's for
people who LIKE spam. Which is what you sent to Shawn. Did you write to the
address I listed here? Is it not obvious it's a FAKE? See, I can spot a
fake... or didn't you know that by now? You claim earlier in this thread that
you knew your IP was being tracked by this Newsgroup. In your lofty knowledge
of how the NG works, didn't you know the email addresses here are harvested for
spamming by various companies?
I'm done with you. I've got a show to do. Get help.
MIBecky
In message <6my55i2qsj...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, A Timplistic Girl
<mystics...@yahoo.com> may be typing while naked. I am replying with
extreme caution...
--
Mysti
In article <20030518051748...@mb-m29.aol.com>, drdi...@aol.com
(DrDimitri) says...
--
Mysti
When I first read your "goodbye letter", I was hoping you would be successful.
No, you never asked anyone for help. You never said "hey, does anyone feel like
talking?" or "hey, anyone know the number to suicide prevention, boys and girls
town or Midnight Insanity's hotline?" No. instead you wrote this very cryptic
letter that "There are so many factors... " and references that you would off
yourself, then proceeded to watch people you never met worry themselves sick
trying to track you down to help you. That's just fucking pathetic.
I am a complete bastard when it comes to certain things. This is one of them. I
don't give a shit one way or another if anyone agrees or disagrees. You want to
kill yourself? Fine. Good luck. One less idiot everyone else has to deal with.
Suicide causes the friends and family a lot of pain, but that's ok, it can't
*possibly* outweigh your own pain.
I don't care if you really did try anything. I don't care to know anything
about your counselor, your ER Doctor, or your counselor's doctor.
"Im so gothic I must die... die... Dye my hair black..."
You recently posted;
"Incidentally, this is the *one and only* group who has ceremoniously ousted me
for being alive."
Perhaps if you had posted your initial post and then there was a quick "hey,
didn't do it, changed my mind or I feel better post, that would be much
different. Instead, according to the Shawn, you read the articles and logged in
several times over the course of several days before you bothered to pipe up.
Get over youself. Better luck next time.
--
Scott McDee
Broadway Bound and Gagged, Tempe AZ
www.azrocky.com
threw a site together called
www.ex-deliveryboy.com
NewsGroup Beater for Crazed Imaginations
(www.crazedimaginations.com)
I am glad you are getting counselling....someone to actually listen and for
you to discuss what you want...(counselling might be different by you than
me though). But I would suggest you sort yourself out, before coming on
here whinging about the actions people took for you...You are only making
matters worse for yourself...I haven't even heard a thank you for the kind
people who's concerns were there, from you. I didn't get so mad about
it...There was nothing I could do, from the U.K. But I did come and check
every few hours to see if anything had been found out..... So please learn
to appreciate those that did try and help, instead of throwing it back in
their faces....Because one day, someone else may come on here feeling
suicidal and needing help.....and your actions may have delayed any actions
from the caring individuals of the newsgroup.
A little plea to those that did try and help.....Please don't take one bad
experience and ignore another cry for help.....It may save a life....I have
faith!
Natterjack
"A Timplistic Girl" <mystics...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I don't think I could have faced coming back on here, if I was
you....Especially when you didn't even apologise when you were found
out....A little message would have sufficed...... Think before doing actions
in future.
see below:
"Perhaps if you had posted your initial post and then there was a quick
"hey, didn't do it, changed my mind or I feel better post, that would be
much different. Instead, according to the Shawn, you read the articles and
logged in several times over the course of several days before you bothered
to pipe up.
Get over youself. Better luck next time."
Right I think I am fed up now, with all this....and if you really want to
p*** her off....Ignore her!
Just hope that doesn't send her spiralling back down.
Natterjack
Yay us....we could screw up a soup sandwich.
--
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Quality Brad since 1979! AIM/Yahoo/Livejournal - Quality617
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We keep you alive to serve this show. I'm a plan that went horribly wrong!
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--
Paul J. White- Eddie, MC
Barely Legal- Oakland, CA
http://barelylegal.rhps.org
PWI Manager-in-Training
http://www.prowrestlingiron.com
"MIBecky" <mibec...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11p8cc6d63f...@news.rockynewsgroup.org...
I received an email also. Her words showed NOTHING new.
How? You just take soup and two pieces of bread.... and....
*SLOP*....*dripdrip* *dripdrip*
Oh, damn.
Peace, Love, and RO'B,
Q,
W.S.A.*
*As determined by the Norman rating scale.
MIBecky
In message <20030519233955...@mb-m12.aol.com>,
diko...@aol.combustible (Q) may be typing while naked. I am replying with
extreme caution...
"MIBecky" <mibec...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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2 pieces of bread? Damnet....and here I thought it was 2 bowls of soup.
>
>Q, your sarcasm is dripping into my soup sandwich. Eeewie.
<sheepish> Um... that's not sarcasm... </sheepish>
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