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Matthew.Ridges

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Mar 11, 2010, 11:00:54 AM3/11/10
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I've been in the market for a cooker, an electric one.

I've found 2 on argos but am torn with sleepless nights on which is the
better one for me.

Also there is a 10% off on the argos site using code COOK10 to get it
ontopic :)

http://tinyurl.com/yg662b9
http://tinyurl.com/yktu2hg

I've never used one with ceremaic hobs but am used to electric cookers. They
both seem good value and with the discount a really good price.

I'm just after some opinions on which is the btter one to go for. I'm rarely
this indicisive lol.

petrolcan

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Mar 11, 2010, 11:35:02 AM3/11/10
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In article <hnb43q$3af$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, Matthew.Ridges says...

They look pretty much the same spec wise except one has a clock/timer.

Myself, I'd go for the gas one :-)

Matthew.Ridges

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Mar 11, 2010, 12:16:37 PM3/11/10
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"petrolcan" <petrol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'd like a gas one buuuut I'd have to pay someone to connect it I think its
about £60 when I asked. The electric one is a bit of 6mm T&E cable and a £10
to my neighbours son whos a electrician and 5 mins of his time. Not the best
reason. I've always had good results with gas cooking wise and cheap. Not
sure how electric will fair with cooking as have only used one many moons
ago but... hmmm

I hate you now I want as gas one.

:)


petrolcan

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Mar 11, 2010, 1:42:53 PM3/11/10
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In article <hnb8hp$c5o$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Matthew.Ridges says...

You do know that a gas fitting is a simple bayonet affair. It's as easy
as changing a light bulb.

> I hate you now I want as gas one.

Heh

Adrian C

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Mar 11, 2010, 2:45:41 PM3/11/10
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On 11/03/2010 16:00, Matthew.Ridges wrote:
> I've been in the market for a cooker, an electric one.
>
> I've found 2 on argos but am torn with sleepless nights on which is the
> better one for me.

Get one (or a couple) of these for around twenty quid each.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150413498565

and a Combination Microwave oven.

Unless ye are a gormet cook, there is little else required.

Now where's me can of baked beans and cooked ham?


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Adrian C

TJ

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Mar 11, 2010, 6:40:03 PM3/11/10
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"Matthew.Ridges" <no...@host.com> wrote in message
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Right, well I can give you some info on the products! I have had the
top one (Beko DV555W) for about 18months and wouldn't have
another. I bought it for far less than that so you need to check on
Pricerunner or Kelkoo. The rings on the top are solid and take an
age to heat up compared to conventional rings. They also take a long
time to cool, so you put it on full and wait for 5mins, then switch off!
It's a strange thing to use but you get used to it. Below the control knobs
there is a small lip, the coating on this is now all cracked and crazed.
Beko don't want to know so I am having to buy a new cooker as it
has started to rust. The fan assisted oven is very good and has timer
controls but will not work unless you set the clock!
The small oven at the top is OK, but it doubles as a grill so will easily
burn instead of heating like the lower oven. The glass in the doors
can be taken out but the insides are going rusty as condensation pours
out when in use. So you get puddles of water on the floor.
I think it is the 55cm wide one so the pans are close together, I should
have got the 60cm wide one really to give a bit more room. Nearly
forgot, the rings on the top go "rusty" unless you clean them regularly and
give them a wipe with vegetable oil. Obviously that smells when you
cook. I hope that helps with making your choice anyway.
I am sure I got mine nearer to £200, possibly from LASKYS. I
can't find the receipt at the moment. Definitely shop around as some
other retailers are cheaper without using a discount code.

I wouldn't have the second one. The top is not that strong and if you
boil anything over it is an absolute pain to try and clean. It also
scratches easily. A friend has one and it's extremely narrow.


TJ

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Mar 11, 2010, 6:45:28 PM3/11/10
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"Matthew.Ridges" <no...@host.com> wrote in message
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Well I do a lot of cooking and would go for a gas hob and electric oven any
time.
If you use a wok then gas is by far the best. It gives you more control
compared
to electric and the rings or halogens on the BEKO range. Each has their own
little
disadvantages. For me it come down to price, space in between the kitchen
units
etc. If you use big pans or a wok and a pan, you do need a bit of space or
it
starts getting crowded.
As for connecting the electric ones up - dead easy! You can do it yourself
if
you can wire a plug. There is a connector block at the back with a black
casing
over it. It has "L" "N" "E", so L to red/brown, N to black/blue, E to
earth.
Don't be afraid of it! I would say that if you are unsure, do as the other
person did,
ask someone who will make it look very easy and do it in minutes.


petrolcan

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Mar 12, 2010, 1:36:50 AM3/12/10
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In article <hnbvar$71s$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, TJ says...

> As for connecting the electric ones up - dead easy! You can do it yourself
> if you can wire a plug. There is a connector block at the back with a
> black casing over it. It has "L" "N" "E", so L to red/brown, N to
> black/blue, E to earth.
> Don't be afraid of it! I would say that if you are unsure, do as the other
> person did, ask someone who will make it look very easy and do it in
> minutes.

I wired in an electric cooker the other weekend, just like you
described. Triple checked everything and then checked it again but when
I flicked the switch it tripped out. Went back and triple checked
everything again to no avail so had to call a sparky.

Turned out I'd been a little over zealous in making sure the wire clamps
were tight and ended up with a split live casing so that the tightness
meant that the earth and live were touching.

Took the sparky 10 mins to sort out and that included the time taken to
releive me of £40.

MatSav

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Mar 12, 2010, 3:24:02 AM3/12/10
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petrolcan wrote:
> In article <hnb8hp$c5o$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Matthew.Ridges
> says...
> >

> >
> > I'd like a gas [cooker] but I'd have to pay someone to
> > connect it I
> > think its about £60 when I asked. ...


>
> You do know that a gas fitting is a simple bayonet affair. It's
> as
> easy as changing a light bulb.
>

Indeed they are, but the UK's Gas Installation and Use
Regulations require that any work on gas appliances is carried
out by a registered person. Previous regulations only required a
'competent' person. If you want to stay within the law, you have
to pay someone for a few minutes work. On the other hand, there's
not really anyone out there to stop you doing it yourself.

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MatSav


mechanic

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Mar 12, 2010, 4:53:54 AM3/12/10
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:53 GMT, petrolcan wrote:

> You do know that a gas fitting is a simple bayonet affair. It's as
> easy as changing a light bulb.

*If* there is already a gas line into the kitchen!
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petrolcan

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Mar 12, 2010, 5:22:12 AM3/12/10
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In article <mttv3fu1...@example9876.com>, mechanic says...

Well, duh!

Matthew.Ridges

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Mar 12, 2010, 9:02:52 AM3/12/10
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"TJ" <nos...@virgin.com> wrote in message
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You have been super helpful TJ! Although a bit alarmed at the problems with
the dv555 cooker. I had woken up thinking this morning I'll go with this!
But maybe not. I've found a dual fuel one gas hob, electric oven Indesit
KD3G11XG Stainless Steel seems good and gets a decent review.

Had a good search around and from appliancedeals its £270 delivered, but
I'll have to get the gas bit connected up by someone and the electric bit is
no problem.

What do you reckon ?


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Peter Watson

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Mar 12, 2010, 3:43:50 PM3/12/10
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On 11/03/2010 18:42, petrolcan wrote:

>
> You do know that a gas fitting is a simple bayonet affair. It's as easy
> as changing a light bulb.
>

Doesn't help - You've still got to screw the other end of the hose into
the back of the cooker and get a gas tight seal...

petrolcan

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Mar 12, 2010, 4:25:47 PM3/12/10
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In article <7vvnck...@mid.individual.net>, Peter Watson says...

Like I said, as easy as changing a light bulb.

Peter Watson

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Mar 12, 2010, 4:49:32 PM3/12/10
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???

Light bulb - Insert into fitting, push and twist.

Cooker - Assess current pipework state and dimensions are adequate to
maintain gas flow to cooker and other appliances. Screw flexible hose
into rear of cooker ensuring best practices followed to ensure gas tight
seal. Insert other end of flexible hose into bayonet fitting, push and
twist. Confirm no leaks and perform soundness test. Purge pipework and
confirm burner operation.

That's just off the top of my head and I'm not a gas fitter :)

petrolcan

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Mar 12, 2010, 5:05:27 PM3/12/10
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In article <7vvr7p...@mid.individual.net>, Peter Watson says...

Okay okay, just like fitting a lampshade *then* fitting a light bulb.

:-)

Peter Watson

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Mar 12, 2010, 5:10:12 PM3/12/10
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On 12/03/2010 22:05, petrolcan wrote:

>
> Okay okay, just like fitting a lampshade *then* fitting a light bulb.
>
> :-)

That's better :)

MatSav

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Mar 12, 2010, 7:02:30 PM3/12/10
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"Phil" <ph...@phil.com> wrote in message
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>> but the UK's Gas Installation and Use Regulations require
>> that any work on gas appliances is carried out by a registered
>> person.
>
> No they don't, anyone *employed* to carry out work for you must
> be
> registered under the Gas Safe Register, which is exactly the
> same as
> before (previously they had to be CORGI registered obviously).

>
>> Previous regulations only required a 'competent' person
>
> Exactly the same as the current regulations;
>
> "No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas
> fitting
> or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."
>
> (taken From the 'Gas Installation and Use Regulations').

Thanks Phil - I'll have to check the Regulations for myself now!
I'm having some work done that's costing me about 350 quid - next
time, if it needs doing again, I'll save myself a few bob!

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MatSav


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