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Catholic Church Nazi photos

compiled by Jim Walker
created: 20 May 1998
additions: 13 May 2006

The following photos provide a pictorial glimpse of Hitler, how his Nazis
mixed religion with government, and the support for Hitler by the Protestant
and Catholic Churches in Germany. In, no way, does this gallery of photos
intend to support Nazism or anti-Semitism, but instead, intends to warn
against them.

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(TV Photo from History Channel's
"Hitler's Lost Plan," aired 18 April 2005)
(Photo source: The Hitler No One Knows: 100 Pictures
of the Life of the Führer, by Heinrich Hoffmann) Hitler With Whip (acting
like 'Jesus')

Hitler's close friend, Dietrich Eckart, told of overhearing Hitler showing
off to a lady by denouncing Berlin in extravagant terms: ". . . the luxury,
the perversion, the iniquity, the wanton display and the Jewish materialism
disgusted me so thoroughly that I was almost beside myself. I nearly
imagined myself to be Jesus Christ when he came to his Father's Temple and
found the money changers." Eckart described Hitler as "brandishing his whip
and exclaimed that it was his mission to descend upon the capital like a
Christ and scourge the corrupt."

And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the
changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he
drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured
out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables.
--John 2:14-15
(Note, a scourge of small cords describe a whip.)



SMOKING GUN!

Hitler wth Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin, 1935
On April 20, 1939, Archbishop Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday. The
celebrations, initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) became a tradition. Each
April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send "warmest congratulations to
the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany" and added
with "fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven
on their altars."

(Source: Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)

(see also USHMM)

The Führer in Franken

Adolf Hitler (center) at the monument for the war dead in the small town of
Franken. According to Ray Cowdery, Hitler rarely missed an opportunity to
visit war memorials, even when a photographer was not present.

(Source: Hitler: The Hoffmann Photographs, Vol. 1, Ray Cowdery, Ed., 1990)


Hitler greets Müller the "Bishop of the Reich" and Abbot Schachleitner


Hitler greets a Catholic Cardinal (Source: USHMM)





Hitler leaving Church

Hitler leaves the Marine Church in Wilhelmshaven.

(Source: The German Propaganda Archive )
Hitler at Nazi party rally

Note the "Church of our Lady" in the background as if it represented the
foundation of the party. Photo taken in Nuremberg, Germany (circa 1928).
(Source: 20th Century History) Church & State

Hitler in front of "Church of our Lady" in Nuremberg, Sept. 1934.
Photographer, Heinrich Hoffmann.
(Source: USHMM)


Hitler signing his autograph for a Christian fan

(Source: Hitler in Seinen Bergen, Heinrich Hoffmann, Berlin, den 24.9.35)


Hitler praying

The caption reads: "Der ergreifende Abschlub der Kundgebung in Wien: Wir
treten zum Beten..."

[The touching and emotional end of the rally in Vienna: Let us pray...]

(Source: Hitler: The Hoffmann Photographs, Vol. 1, Ray R. Cowdery, Ed.,
1990)


Hitler's mother's grave

Klara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler according to her
beliefs.

Hitler felt grief-stricken over his mother's death. She was buried alongside
her husband in Linz, Austria. German soldiers here pay their respects to the
grave in 1938.

Note the Christian cross on her monument.

(Source: The Importance of Adolf Hitler, by Eleanor H. Ayer, Lucent Books,
1996, p. 25)

To see what the gravesite looks like today, click here.


The Göring Wedding

Only Christians perform Christian weddings, and the Nazis were no exception.

Hermann Göring married Emmy Sonnemann, a famous Opera star.

Adolf Hitler stands in the front row as "Best Man" during the ceremony in
the Cathedral by Reichbishop Müller.

(Source: ThirdReich.ca)


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Nazi Christmas (Some people seem to think that Hitler banned Christmas, but
at no time did he ever ban Christmas or any other Christian holiday.)

Autobahn workers as guests of Hitler in the Berlin Sportpalast at Christmas
in 1938. Note the Christmas trees on the right.
(Source: calvin.edu)
Hitler celebrating Christmas with his soldiers.
(Source: calvin.edu)

Christmas 1942/43
(Source: forum.axishistory.com)

Christmas 1944 with Nazi officers and their girlfriends.
Note the German Santa Claus.
(Source: www.dhm.de/)


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(Source: Wikipedia) The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII)
signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal
ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits
at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the
right.

The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the
eyes of Catholicism, Christianity, and the world.


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SMOKING GUN


Hitler's Brown Army attending and leaving church services. These photos were
published by Nazis during Hitler's reign.
Source: Das Braune Heer: mit einem geleitwort von Adolf Hitler (Translation:
The Brown Army: with a foreword by Adolf Hitler), Photos by Heinrich
Hoffmann


Hitler Oath:

I swear by God,
this holy oath,
to the Führer of the German Reich and people.
Adolf Hitler...

<Watch movie>

(Source: Hitler: Tyrant of Terror, shown on the History Channel)


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Nazi Graves

One must not forget that Germany represented the most Christianized country
in the world in the 1930s and 40s. Nazi Christian soldiers died as
Protestants and Catholics and their grave markers testified to their
religion.

(Source: Photoarchive of the Thrid Reich: http://stolz.by.ru/)
ST Front
(Source: Photoarchive of the Thrid Reich)

Chaplain with a machine gun unit
(Source: axishistory.com)

Most wars are justified on religious grounds.

Of course if a soldier felt uneasy about slaughtering others, they could
always turn to a chaplain who would then patiently explain to them that
killing is allowed by God and about the righteous morality of war. He might
then give a few Biblical examples of God ordained killings. And then he
might tell them that Jesus will forgive them and send them to Heaven if they
should happen to die.

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Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler



Spanish Bishops giving the fascist salute


A Cardinal marches with the Nazis

Cardinal Michael Faulhaber marches between rows of SA men at a Nazi rally in
Munich.

(Source: A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust
and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen)

[Note, some dispute the photo claiming it shows nuncio Cesare Orsenigo in
Berlin, and not Cardinal Faulhaber. Regardless, no one disputes the person
as a high ranking Catholic representative.]


Cardinal Bertram in the funeral procession for Bishop Bares, Berlin, 7
March 1935


As a chairman of the German bishop conference the Breslauer Cardinal Bertram
plays a crucial role in shaping the attitude of the German bishops in
relation to the National Socialist state.

(Photo source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)



Welcome Celebration for Bishop Konrad Graf von Preysing in the
Sportpalast, Berlin, 8 Sept. 1935

Note the Catholic Chi-Rho Cross to the right of the Nazi flag. Chi and Rho
are the first two letters of the Greek word for Christ. The Chi Rho Cross,
or warrior's cross, originated from the monogram of Roman Emperor
Constantine. How fitting it appears next to a swastika.

Following the death of Berlin's Bishop Bares, Pope Pius XI unexpectedly
selects Konrad Graf von Preysing, a little-known Eichstätt bishop, as bishop
of Berlin. Berlin, the region for which he is responsible, now also includes
the center of the National Socialist power structure and so requires a high
degree of political skill from its ecclesiastical leader.

(Photo source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)


Priests giving the Hitler salute

Priests giving the Hitler salute at a Catholic youth rally in the Berlin-
Neukölln stadium in August 1933.

(Source: A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust
and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen)


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SMOKING GUNS

Ludwig Müller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected
to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite
regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice
separation of Church & State.

Although Hitler had problems with the Catholic Church and eventually wanted
to replace Catholicism with his brand of Christianity, the very fact that
Hitler wanted a united German Church proves that he supported Christianity.

Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933.

(Source: USHMM)

This autographed portrait of Müller shows him wearing the NSDAP-
Hoheitsabzeichen (Nazi Eagle party badge) and Feldschnalle (ribbons).

(Click image for an enlarged view)

(Source: sent by email from Gregers Forssling)


Reich Bishop Ludwig Müller, Berlin, 1934

(Photo source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)

Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement
13 Nov.1933
A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch
supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian
doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism.

(Source: Museum of Tolerance)

Investiture of Reich Church Bishop, 1933

Women in traditional dresses joined Nazis at the investiture of Ludwig
Müller as Reich Church Bishop. Müller praised the concept of "one mighty,
all-embracing German people's church."

(Source: Museum of Tolerance)




Deutsche Christen (German Christians)

The Deutsche Christen (DC) became the voice of Nazi ideology within the
Evangelical Church (the Religious Right of their day) and approved by
Hitler. They proposed a church "Aryan paragraph" to prevent "non-Aryans"
from becoming ministers or religious teachers. Most church leaders solidly
supported the "Judenmission." Only a very few number of Christians opposed
Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized
by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of
Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders
shows the danger of mixing religion with government.

The photo on the left shows Christian worshippers of Christ and Nazism on
the march in front of the Berlin Cathedral. SS guards stand at attention.
The head of the march shows members in party and SA uniforms while pastors
follow in the rear.

Note the flags with the Christian cross with the swastika in the middle
(also described as the Double Cross).

To see a movie trailer about the Deutsche Christen, from the documentary
film, "Theologians Under Hitler," click here.
(Photo sources: unknown)

Deutsche Christen (German Christians)

SA storm troopers with placards of the "German Christians," Berlin, July
1933.

On July 14, 1933, Hitler's government approves a new charter for the
Protestant church. With massive intervention by the NSDAP, the church
elections scheduled only a short time later result in a resounding victory
for the "German Christians." Hitler himself appeals to all Protestant
Christians in a radio speech on the eve of the election to vote for the
"German Christians." With its slogan "church must remain church,"

(Source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)

Presidium of the "German Christians," Berlin, November 13, 1933

The "German Christians" desired to achieve absolute organizational and
ideological conformity between the Protestant church and the National
Socialist state. Following their triumphant success in the Protestant church
elections in July 1933 and the election of Ludwig Müller to the office of
Reich bishop, they feel they have reached the zenith of their power over
church policy in the autumn of 1933.

(Source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)


National Bishop Friedrich Coch giving a Hitler greeting in Dresden, 10
December 1933

Dresden pastor Friedrich Coch is one of the leading men of the "German
Christians" in Saxony. The NSDAP's Gau consultant for church matters since
1932, he is elected to the office of state bishop by the "Brown Synod" in
August 1933.

(Source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)

Protagonist

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Excellent web-site!
Thank you for posting it!
JS

Darius wrote:
> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>
> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>
> compiled by Jim Walker
> created: 20 May 1998
> additions: 13 May 2006
>
> The following photos provide a pictorial glimpse of Hitler, how his Nazis
> mixed religion with government, and the support for Hitler by the Protestant
> and Catholic Churches in Germany. In, no way, does this gallery of photos
> intend to support Nazism or anti-Semitism, but instead, intends to warn
> against them.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
>
>
> (TV Photo from History Channel's
> "Hitler's Lost Plan," aired 18 April 2005)
> (Photo source: The Hitler No One Knows: 100 Pictures

> of the Life of the FŘhrer, by Heinrich Hoffmann) Hitler With Whip (acting

> The FŘhrer in Franken


>
> Adolf Hitler (center) at the monument for the war dead in the small town of
> Franken. According to Ray Cowdery, Hitler rarely missed an opportunity to
> visit war memorials, even when a photographer was not present.
>
>
>
> (Source: Hitler: The Hoffmann Photographs, Vol. 1, Ray Cowdery, Ed., 1990)
>
>
>

> Hitler greets MŘller the "Bishop of the Reich" and Abbot Schachleitner

> The G÷ring Wedding


>
> Only Christians perform Christian weddings, and the Nazis were no exception.
>

> Hermann G÷ring married Emmy Sonnemann, a famous Opera star.


>
> Adolf Hitler stands in the front row as "Best Man" during the ceremony in

> the Cathedral by Reichbishop MŘller.

> to the FŘhrer of the German Reich and people.

> (Photo source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)


>
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Celebration for Bishop Konrad Graf von Preysing in the
> Sportpalast, Berlin, 8 Sept. 1935
>
> Note the Catholic Chi-Rho Cross to the right of the Nazi flag. Chi and Rho
> are the first two letters of the Greek word for Christ. The Chi Rho Cross,
> or warrior's cross, originated from the monogram of Roman Emperor
> Constantine. How fitting it appears next to a swastika.
>
> Following the death of Berlin's Bishop Bares, Pope Pius XI unexpectedly

> selects Konrad Graf von Preysing, a little-known Eichstńtt bishop, as bishop

> of Berlin. Berlin, the region for which he is responsible, now also includes
> the center of the National Socialist power structure and so requires a high
> degree of political skill from its ecclesiastical leader.
>

> (Photo source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)

>
>
>
> Priests giving the Hitler salute
>
> Priests giving the Hitler salute at a Catholic youth rally in the Berlin-

> Neuk÷lln stadium in August 1933.


>
> (Source: A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust
> and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
>
> SMOKING GUNS
>

> Ludwig MŘller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected

> to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite
> regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice
> separation of Church & State.
>
> Although Hitler had problems with the Catholic Church and eventually wanted
> to replace Catholicism with his brand of Christianity, the very fact that
> Hitler wanted a united German Church proves that he supported Christianity.
>
> Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933.
>
> (Source: USHMM)
>
>

> This autographed portrait of MŘller shows him wearing the NSDAP-


> Hoheitsabzeichen (Nazi Eagle party badge) and Feldschnalle (ribbons).
>
> (Click image for an enlarged view)
>
> (Source: sent by email from Gregers Forssling)
>
>
>

> Reich Bishop Ludwig MŘller, Berlin, 1934
>
> (Photo source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)

>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement
> 13 Nov.1933
> A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch
> supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian
> doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism.
>
> (Source: Museum of Tolerance)
>
>
> Investiture of Reich Church Bishop, 1933
>
> Women in traditional dresses joined Nazis at the investiture of Ludwig

> MŘller as Reich Church Bishop. MŘller praised the concept of "one mighty,

> (Source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)

>
> Presidium of the "German Christians," Berlin, November 13, 1933
>
> The "German Christians" desired to achieve absolute organizational and
> ideological conformity between the Protestant church and the National
> Socialist state. Following their triumphant success in the Protestant church

> elections in July 1933 and the election of Ludwig MŘller to the office of

> Reich bishop, they feel they have reached the zenith of their power over
> church policy in the autumn of 1933.
>

> (Source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)

>
>
>
> National Bishop Friedrich Coch giving a Hitler greeting in Dresden, 10
> December 1933
>
> Dresden pastor Friedrich Coch is one of the leading men of the "German
> Christians" in Saxony. The NSDAP's Gau consultant for church matters since
> 1932, he is elected to the office of state bishop by the "Brown Synod" in
> August 1933.
>

> (Source: Gedenkstńtte Deutscher Widerstand)
>

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Darius wrote:
> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>
> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>
> compiled by Jim Walker
> created: 20 May 1998
> additions: 13 May 2006
>
<snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.


Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
>
As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
Occult,
through which he came to believe that he would become the future leader
of Germany -
a Messiah - the one who would regain territories lost at the Treaty of
Versailles.

If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
he would have realised that Jesus Christ taught
that we are to love our enemies and to do good to others.

On September 3, 1939, England and then countries of the British Empire
declared war on Germany as Hitler had provoked the situation
by sending his troops into Poland which had a treaty with England.

Because of his anti-communistic attitude, I would think
that he was unsure how Russia was planning to act
so the invasion of Poland could have been for two purposes:-
a) to secure his eastern fromt against Russia
b) through his conquest of the rest of Europe, completed by June 1940,
to attack England. (England had a treaty with Poland that in event of
attack
England would support Poland).

September 3, 1939 was a Sunday in Australia and at church
that evening, as a ten-year old, I was confronted by a different world
to the one in which I grew up and for the first time
became aware that my surname was German from my
paternal grandfather, who had died in my father's very young years.

September 3, 1939 was the start of nearly six years
of the most devastating war that has been inflicted on the humans
by other humans.


>
> Only a very few number of Christians opposed
> Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized
> by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of
> Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders
> shows the danger of mixing religion with government.
>
> The photo on the left shows Christian worshippers of Christ and Nazism on
> the march in front of the Berlin Cathedral. SS guards stand at attention.
> The head of the march shows members in party and SA uniforms while pastors
> follow in the rear.
>

I wonder what I would have done had I been in Germany as Hitler rose
to power, aware, even in the early years that opposition to him
mos tlike would mean incarceration in a prison or being murdered.
The Christian churches were divided, and most likely
had little communication between the denominations.
While some would say that is not an excuse
for their inaction, it does give a reason.

<snip>

Secularists/atheists use that period to denounce Christians
They use that time in an unbalanced way as they present
the information that only supports their view and their cause.

It was Christians and ohers of many ideological beliefs in the Bristish
Empire
and later the United States of America who opposed Hitler.
Many gave their lives, many of us suffered health problems into
the peace years of varying degrees of intensity.

World War II is such a big topic. I am aware that I have only a little
knowledge
of the total facts and complexity of those dreadful years.

However. secularists, in judging Christians who were in Germany
at that time, also judge themselves for where was the
secularist/athesitic opposition at that time?
It is easy to be wise after the event
and seek to find scapegoats to bolster one's own ideology.

All have sinned and have come short of the glory of God.

No one is perfect as God Almighty is perfect.

We all need to seek forgivenees of God (in Jesus Christ)
for both sins of commission and sins of omission.

Gladys Swager

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

>
>Darius wrote:
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>
>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>>
>> compiled by Jim Walker
>> created: 20 May 1998
>> additions: 13 May 2006
>>
><snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.
>
>
>Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
>does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.

No True Scotsman Fallcy #1

So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
he's a "Mulsim", right?

>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
>he would have realised that Jesus Christ taught
>that we are to love our enemies and to do good to others.

No True Scotsman Fallacy #2

If Osama "understood" the Islam faith "correctly", he would have
realised that you shouldn't kill innocent people, right?

>I wonder what I would have done had I been in Germany as Hitler rose
>to power, aware, even in the early years that opposition to him
>mos tlike would mean incarceration in a prison or being murdered.
>The Christian churches were divided

The Christian Church was not divided on Hitler. The Vatican so
spparoved Hitler's stance against communism, they became the first
state to recognize Hitler's rule.

>Secularists/atheists use that period to denounce Christians
>They use that time in an unbalanced way as they present
>the information that only supports their view and their cause.

And justly so. Where did Hitler's anti-semitism come from? It
certainly weren't from the atheists.

>It was Christians and ohers of many ideological beliefs in the Bristish
>Empire
>and later the United States of America who opposed Hitler.

Later on, and they deserve accolades for it. But Hitler rose to power
on the backs of Christian anti-semitism.

>However. secularists, in judging Christians who were in Germany
>at that time, also judge themselves for where was the
>secularist/athesitic opposition at that time?

They were opposing Hitler at Concentration Camps. Atheist organization
were OUTLAWED by Hitler, and the action was apporved by his willing
Christian executioners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Freethinkers_League

"in the Spring of 1933 when Hitler OUTLAWED all ATHEISTIC and
freethinking groups in Germany. 'Freethinkers Hall', the national
headquarters of the League, was then CONVERTED to a bureau advising to
the public in CHURCH matters."

>It is easy to be wise after the event
>and seek to find scapegoats to bolster one's own ideology.

It is easy for you to whitewash the deeds of your religion, were it
not for the fact that the blood stains on your collective hands are
documented by historical evidence.

>All have sinned and have come short of the glory of God.
>
>No one is perfect as God Almighty is perfect.
>
>We all need to seek forgivenees of God (in Jesus Christ)
>for both sins of commission and sins of omission.
>
>Gladys Swager

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Ray Fischer

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<swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Darius wrote:
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>
>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>>
>> compiled by Jim Walker
>> created: 20 May 1998
>> additions: 13 May 2006
>>
>Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
>does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.

Just as being a Catholic doesn't necessarily make one a Christian.

Which, I suspect, was the point.

[..]


>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly

God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
of His words.

--
Ray Fischer
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Malcolm

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> <swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>Darius wrote:
>>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>>
>>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>>>
>>> compiled by Jim Walker
>>> created: 20 May 1998
>>> additions: 13 May 2006
>>>
>>Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
>>does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
>
> Just as being a Catholic doesn't necessarily make one a Christian.
>
> Which, I suspect, was the point.
>
Hilter was a nominal Catholic and therefore a nominal Christian. He seldom
if ever attended Mass, so he wasn't a practising Catholic. Some of his
policies were quite anti-Chrisitian, for instance chaplains weren't allowed
in the German army.

There is no point trying to restrict the meaning of Christian to "morally
good person".


>
>>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
>
> God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
> of His words.
>

Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.
Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.
--
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> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
> he's a "Mulsim", right?

You're a dum-dum.

BAM


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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
> On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>
> >
> >Darius wrote:
> >> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
> >>
> >> Catholic Church Nazi photos
> >>
> >> compiled by Jim Walker
> >> created: 20 May 1998
> >> additions: 13 May 2006
> >>
> ><snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.
> >
> >
> >Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
> >does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
>
> No True Scotsman Fallcy #1
>
> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
> he's a "Mulsim", right?
>
> >If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
> >he would have realised that Jesus Christ taught
> >that we are to love our enemies and to do good to others.
>
> No True Scotsman Fallacy #2

And the biblical description of a true Christian is?

Topaz

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On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:


>As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
>Occult,

You have read nothing but Jew propaganda. They control your media.

ADOLF HITLER
NUREMBERG
SPEECH OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1938


..National Socialism is not a cult-movement - a movement for worship;
it is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship.
Therefore we have no rooms for worship, but only halls for the people
- no open spaces for worship, but spaces for assemblies and parades.
We have no religious retreats, but arenas for sports and
playing-fields, and the characteristic feature of our places of
assembly is not the mystical gloom of a cathedral, but the brightness
and light of a room or hall which combines beauty with fitness for its
purpose. In these halls no acts of worship are celebrated, they are
exclusively devoted to gatherings of the people of the kind which we
have come to know in the course of our long struggle; to such
gatherings we have become accustomed and we wish to maintain them. We
will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for
exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.
Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else - in any
case, something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our
program there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and
straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central
point of this perception and of this profession of belief the
maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by
God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a
divine will - not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship,
but openly before the face of the Lord.

There were times when a half-light was the necessary condition for the
effectiveness of certain teachings: we live in an age when light is
for us the fundamental condition of successful action. It will be a
sorry day when through the stealing in of obscure mystic elements the
Movement or the State itself issues obscure commissions.... It is even
dangerous to issue any commission for a so-called place of worship,
for with the building will arise the necessity for thinking out
so-called religious recreations or religious rites, which have nothing
to do with National Socialism. Our worship is exclusively the
cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural,
therefore God-willed. Our humility is the unconditional submission
before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us
men: it is to these we pay our respect. Our commandment is the
courageous fulfillment of the duties arising from those laws. But for
religious rites we are not the authorities, but the churches! If
anyone should believe that these tasks of ours are not enough for him,
that they do not correspond with his convictions, then it is for him
to prove that God desires to use him to change things for the better.
In no event can National Socialism or the National Socialist State
give to German art other tasks than those which accord with our view
of the world.

The only sphere in which the Jewish international newspapers still
today think that they can attack the new Reich is the cultural sphere.
Here they attempt, by a constant appeal to the sentimentality -
untroubled by any sort of knowledge - of the world-citizens of
democracy to bewail the downfall of German culture: in other words,
they lament the commercial closing-down of those elements which, as
the heralds and exponents of the November Republic, forced their
cultural characteristics, as unnatural as they were deplorable, upon
the period between the two Empires; and which have now played out
their role for good and all....

Fortunately, however, despite the short time which the National
Socialist leadership has been able to allot to works of culture,
positive facts, here too, speak louder than any negative criticism. We
Germans can today speak with justice of a new awakening of our
cultural life, which finds its confirmation not in mutual compliments
and literary phrases, but rather in positive evidences of cultural
creative force. German architecture, sculpture, painting, drama, and
the rest bring today documentary proof of a creative period in art,
which for richness and impetuosity has rarely been matched in the
course of human history. And although the Jewish-democratic press
magnates in their effrontery even today seek brazenly to turn these
facts upside down, we know that the cultural achievements of Germany
will in a few years have won from the world respect and appreciation
far more unstinted even than that which they now accord to our work in
the material field. The buildings which are arising in the Reich today
will speak a language that endures, a language, above all, more
compelling than the Yiddish gabblings of the democratic, international
judges of our culture. What the fingers of these poor wretches have
penned or are penning the world will - perhaps unfortunately - forget,
as it has forgotten so much else. But the gigantic works of the Third
Reich are a token of its cultural renascence and shall one day belong
to the inalienable cultural heritage of the Western world, just as the
great cultural achievements of this world in the past belong to us
today...

http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/

Dana

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>
>
> >As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
> >Occult,
>
> You have read nothing but Jew propaganda. They control your media.

All we need for people like you, is a length of rope.
Your hate is out of control and you are a danger to others.
You and your type are like a cancer to society, and need to be eradicated.


Malcolm

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
Hitler:

> ..National Socialism is not a cult-movement - a movement for worship;
> it is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
> principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
> leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship.
>
The fact he needed to say that shows that the occult charge was being made,
and was taken seriously.

Fritz Göring

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Topaz mars...@hotmail.com said:
> i
>
Den gewaltigsten Gegensatz zum Arier bildet der Jude. Bei kaum einem Volke
der Welt ist der Selbsterhaltungstrieb stärker entwickelt als beim
sogenannten auserwählten. Als bester Beweis hierfür darf die einfache
Tatsache des Bestehens dieser Rasse allein schon gelten. Wo ist das Volk,
das
in den letzten zweitausend Jahren so wenigen Veränderungen der inneren
Veranlagung des Charakters usw. ausgesetzt gewesen wäre als das jüdische?
Welches Volk endlich hat größere Umwälzungen mitgemacht als dieses ? und ist
dennoch immer als dasselbe aus den gewaltigsten Katastrophen der Menschheit
hervorgegangen? Welch ein unendlich zäher Wille zum Leben, zur Erhaltung der
Art spricht aus diesen Tatsachen!Die intellektuellen Eigenschaften des Juden
haben sich im Verlaufe der Jahrtausende geschult. Er gilt heute als
"gescheit" und war es in einem gewissen Sinne zu allen Zeiten. Allein sein
Verstand ist nicht das Ergebnis eigener Entwicklung, sondern eines
Anschauungsunterrichtes durch Fremde. Auch der menschliche Geist vermag
nicht
ohne Stufen zur Höhe emporzuklimmen; er braucht zu jedem Schritt nach
aufwärts das Fundament der Vergangenheit und zwar in jenem umfassenden
Sinne,
in dem es sich nur in der allgemeinen Kultur zu offenbaren vermag. Alles
Denken beruht nur zum geringen Teile auf eigener Erkenntnis, zum größten
aber
auf den Erfahrungen der vor. hergegangenen Zeit. Daß allgemeine Kulturniveau
versorgt den einzelnen Menschen, ohne daß es dieser meistens beachtet, mit
einer solchen Fülle von Vorkenntnissen, daß er, so gerüstet, leichter weiter
eigene Schritte machen kann. Der Knabe von heute zum Beispiel wächst unter
einer wahren Unmenge technischer Errungenschaften der letzten Jahrhunderte
auf, so daß er vieles, das vor hundert Jahren noch den größten Geistern ein
Rätsel war, als selbstverständlich gar nicht mehr beachtet, obwohl es für
ihn
zum Verfolgen und Verstehen unserer Fortschritte auf dem betreffenden
Gebiete
von ausschlaggebender Bedeutung ist. Würde selbst ein genialer Kopf aus den
zwanziger Jahren des vorigen Jahrhunderts heute plötzlich sein Grab
verlassen,
so wäre sein auch nur geistiges Zurechtfinden in der jetzigen Zeit schwerer,
als dies für einen mittelmäßig begabten fünfzehnjährigen Knaben von
heute der Fall ist. Denn ihm würde all die unendliche Vorbildung fehlen, die
der Zeitgenosse von heute wahrend seines Aufwuchses inmitten der
Erscheinungen der jeweiligen allgemeinen Kultur sozusagen unbewußt in sich
aufnimmt.


Da nun der Jude ? aus Gründen, die sich sofort ergeben werden ? niemals im
Besitze einer eigenen Kultur war, sind die Grundlagen seines geistigen
Arbeitens immer von anderen gegeben worden. Sein Intellekt hat sich zu allen
Zeiten an der ihn umgebenden Kulturwelt entwickelt.


Niemals fand der umgekehrte Vorgang statt.


Denn wenn auch der Selbsterhaltungstrieb des jüdischen Volkes nicht kleiner,
sondern eher noch größer ist als der anderer Völker, wenn auch seine
geistigen Fähigkeiten sehr leicht den Eindruck zu erwecken vermögen, daß sie
der intellektuellen Veranlagung der übrigen Rassen ebenbürtig wären, so
fehlt
doch vollständig die allerwesentlichste Voraussetzung für ein Kulturvolk,
die
idealistische Gesinnung.


Der Aufopferungswille im jüdischen Volke geht aber den nackten
Selbsterhaltungstrieb des einzelnen nicht hinaus. Das scheinbar große
Zusammengehörigkeitsgefühl ist in einem sehr primitiven Herdeninstinkt
begründet, wie er sich ähnlich bei vielen anderen Lebewesen auf dieser Welt
zeigt. Bemerkenswert ist dabei die Tatsache, daß Herdentrieb stets nur so
lange zu gegenseitiger Unterstützung führt, als eine gemeinsame Gefahr dies
zweckmäßig oder unvermeidlich erscheinen läßt. Das gleiche Rudel Wölfe, das
soeben noch gemeinsam seinen Raub überfällt, löst sich bei nachlassendem
Hunger wieder in seine einzelnen Tiere auf. Das gleiche gilt von den
Pferden,
die sich des Angreifers geschlossen zu erwehren suchen, um nach
überstandener
Gefahr wieder auseinanderzustieben.


Ähnlich verhält es sich beim Juden. Sein Aufopferungssinn ist nur ein
scheinbarer. Er besteht nur so lange, als die Existenz jedes einzelnen dies
unbedingt erforderlich macht. Sobald jedoch der gemeinsame Feind besiegt,
die
allen drohende Gefahr beseitigt, der Raub geborgen ist, hört die scheinbare
Harmonie der Juden untereinander auf, und den ursächlich vorhandenen Anlagen
wieder Platz zu geben. Der Jude ist nur einig, wenn eine gemeinsame Gefahr
ihn
dazu zwingt oder eine gemeinsame Beute lockt; fallen beide Gründe weg, so
treten die Eigenschaften eines krassesten Egoismus in ihre Rechte, und aus
dem
einigen Volk wird im Handumdrehen eine sich blutig bekämpfende Rotte von
Ratten.


Wären die Juden auf dieser Welt allein, so würden sie ebensosehr in Schmutz
und Unrat ersticken wie in haßerfülltem Kampfe sich gegenseitig zu
übervorteilen und auszurotten versuchen, sofern nicht der sich in ihrer
Feigheit ausdrückende restlose Mangel jedes Aufopferungssinnes auch hier den
Kampf zum Theater werden ließe.


Es ist also grundfalsch, aus der Tatsache des Zusammenstehens der Juden im
Kampfe, richtiger ausgedrückt in der Ausplünderung ihrer Mitmenschen, bei
ihnen auf einen gewissen idealen Aufopferungssinn schließen zu wollen.


Auch hier leitet den Juden weiter nichts als nackter Egoismus des einzelnen.


Daher ist auch der jüdische Staat ? der der lebendige Organismus zur
Erhaltung und Vermehrung einer Rasse sein soll ? territorial vollständig
unbegrenzt. Denn eine bestimmte räumliche Fassung eines Staatsgebildes setzt
immer eine idealistische Gesinnung der Staatsrasse voraus, besonders aber
eine richtige Auffassung des Begriffes Arbeit. In eben dem Maße, in dem es
an
dieser Einstellung mangelt, versagt auch jeder Versuch zur Bildung, ja sogar
zur Erhaltung eines räumlich begrenzten Staates. Damit entfällt jedoch die
Grundlage, auf der eine Kultur allein entstehen kann.


Daher ist das jüdische Volk bei allen scheinbaren intellektuellen
Eigenschaften dennoch ohne jede wahre Kultur, besonders aber ohne jede
eigene. Denn was der Jude heute an Scheinkultur besitzt, ist das unter
seinen
Händen meist schon verdorbene Gut der anderen Völker.


Als wesentliches Merkmal bei der Beurteilung des Judentums in seiner
Stellung
zur Frage der menschlichen Kultur muß man sich immer vor Augen halten, daß
es
eine jüdische Kunst niemals gab und demgemäß auch heute nicht gibt, daß vor
allem die beiden Königinnen aller Künste, Architektur und Musik, dem
Judentum
nichts Ursprüngliches zu verdanken haben. Was es auf dem Gebiete der Kunst
leistet, ist entweder Verbalhornung oder geistiger Diebstahl. Damit aber
fehlen dem Juden jene Eigenschaften, die schöpferisch und damit kulturell
begnadete Rassen auszeichnen.


Wie sehr der Jude nur nachempfindend, besser aber verderbend fremde Kultur
übernimmt, geht daraus hervor, daß er am meisten in der Kunst zu finden ist,
die auch am wenigsten auf eigene Erfindung eingestellt erscheint, der
Schauspielkunst. Allein selbst hier ist er wirklich nur der "Gaukler",
besser
der Nachäffer; denn selbst hier fehlt ihm der allerletzte Wurf zur
wirklichen
Größe; selbst hier ist er nicht der geniale Gestalter, sondern äußerlicher
Nachahmer, wobei alle dabei angewendeten Mätzchen und Tricks eben doch nicht
aber die innere Leblosigkeit seiner Gestaltungsgabe hinwegzutäuschen
vermögen. Hier hilft nur die jüdische Presse in liebevollster Weise nach,
indem sie aber jeden, aber auch den mittelmäßigsten Stümper, sofern er eben
nur Jude ist, ein solches Hosiannageschrei erhebt, daß die übrige Mitwelt
endlich wirklich vermeint, einen Künstler vor sich zu sehen, während es sich
in Wahrheit nur um einen jammervollen Komödianten handelt.


Nein, der Jude besitzt keine irgendwie kulturbildende Kraft, da der
Idealismus, ohne den es eine wahrhafte Höherentwicklung des Menschen nicht
gibt, bei ihm nicht vorhanden ist und nie vorhanden war. Daher wird sein
Intellekt niemals aufbauend wirken, sondern zerstörend und in ganz seltenen
Fällen vielleicht höchstens aufpeitschend, dann aber als das Urbild der
"Kraft, die stets das Böse will und stets das Gute schafft". Nicht durch ihn
findet irgendein Fortschritt der Menschheit statt, sondern trotz ihm.


Da der Jude niemals einen Staat mit bestimmter terri- torialer Begrenzung
besaß
und damit auch nie eine Kultur sein eigen nannte,
entstand die Vorstellung, als handle es sich hier um ein Volk, das in die
Reihe der Nomaden zu rechnen wäre. Dies ist ein ebenso großer wie
gefährlicher Irrtum. Der Nomade besitzt sehr wohl einen bestimmt umgrenzten
Lebensraum, nur bebaut er ihn nicht als seßhafter Bauer, sondern lebt vom
Ertrage seiner Herden, mit denen er in seinem Gebiete wandert. Der äußere
Grund hierfür ist in der geringen Fruchtbarkeit eines Bodens zu sehen, der
eine Ansiedlung einfach nicht gestattet. Die tiefere Ursache aber liegt im
Mißverhältnis zwischen der technischen Kultur einer Zeit oder eines Volkes
und der natürlichen Armut eines Lebensraumes. Es gibt Gebiete, in denen auch
der Arier nur durch seine im Laufe von mehr denn tausend Jahren entwickelte
Technik in der Lage ist, in geschlossenen Siedlungen des weiten Bodens Herr
zu werden und die Erfordernisse des Lebens aus ihm zu bestreiten. besäße er
diese Technik nicht, so müßte er entweder diese Gebiete meiden oder
ebenfalls
als Nomade in dauernder Wanderschaft das Leben fristen, vorausgesetzt, daß
nicht seine tausendjährige Erziehung und Gewöhnung an Seßhaftigkeit dies für
ihn einfach unerträglich erscheinen ließe. Man muß bedenken, daß in der Zeit
der Erschließung des amerikanischen Kontinents zahlreiche Arier sich ihr
Leben als Fallensteller, Jäger usw. erkämpften, und zwar häufig in größeren
Trupps mit Weib und Kind, immer herumziehend, so das ihr Dasein vollkommen
dem der Nomaden glich. Sobald aber ihre steigende Zahl und bessere
Hilfsmittel gestatteten, den wilden Boden auszuroden und den Ureinwohnern
standzuhalten, schossen immer mehr Siedlungen in dem Lande empor.


Wahrscheinlich war auch der Arier erst Nomade und wurde im Laufe der Zeit
seßhaft, allein deshalb war er doch niemals Jude! Nein, der Jude ist kein
Nomade; denn auch der Nomade hatte schon eine bestimmte Stellung zum
Begriffe
"Arbeit", die als Grundlage für eine spätere Entwicklung dienen konnte,
sofern die notwendigen geistigen Voraussetzungen hierzu vorhanden waren. Die
idealistische Grundanschauung aber ist bei ihm, wenn auch in unendlicher
Verdünnung, gegeben, daher erscheint er auch in seinem ganzen Wesen den
arischen Völkern vielleicht fremd, allein nicht unsympathisch. Bei den Juden
hingegen ist diese Einstellung überhaupt nicht vorhanden; er war deshalb
auch
kein Nomade,
sondern immer nur Parasit im Körper anderer Völker. Daß er dabei manchmal
seinen bisherigen Lebensraum verläßt, hängt nicht mit seiner Absicht
zusammen, sondern ist das Ergebnis des Hinauswurfes, den er von Zeit zu Zeit
durch die mißbrauchten Gastvölker erfährt. Sein Sich-Weiterverbreiten aber
ist eine typische Erscheinung für alle Parasiten; er sucht immer neuen
Nährboden für seine Rasse.


Dies hat aber mit Nomadentum deshalb nichts zu tun, weil der Jude gar nicht
daran denkt, ein von ihm besetztes Gebiet wieder zu räumen, sondern bleibt,
wo er sitzt, und zwar so seßhaft, daß er selbst mit Gewalt nur mehr sehr
schwer zu vertreiben ist. Sein Ausdehnen auf immer neue Länder erfolgt erst
in dem Augenblick, in dem dort gewisse Bedingungen für sein Dasein gegeben
sind, ohne daß er dadurch ? wie der Nomade ? seinen bisherigen Wohnsitz
verhindern würde. Er ist und bleibt der ewige Parasit, ein Schmarotzer, der
wie ein schädlicher Bazillus sich immer mehr ausbreitet, sowie nur ein
günstiger Nährboden dazu einlädt. Die Wirkung seines Daseins aber gleicht
ebenfalls der von Schmarotzern: wo er auftritt, stirbt das Wirtsvolk nach
kürzerer oder längerer Zeit ab.


So lebte der Jude zu allen Zeiten in den Staaten anderer Völker und bildete
dort seinen eigenen Staat, der allerdings so lange unter der Bezeichnung
"Religionsgemeinschaft" maskiert zu segeln pflegte, als die äußeren Umstände
kein vollständiges Enthüllen seines Wesens angezeigt sein ließen. Glaubte er
sich aber einmal stark genug, um der Schutzdecke entbehren zu können, dann
ließ er noch immer den Schleier fallen und war plötzlich das, was so viele
andere früher nicht glauben und sehen wollten: der Jude.


Im Leben des Juden als Parasit im Körper anderer Nationen und Staaten liegt
eine Eigenart begründet, die Schopenhauer einst zu dem schon erwähnten
Ausspruch veranlaßte, der Jude sei der "große Meister im Lügen". Das Dasein
treibt den Juden zur Lüge, und zwar zur immerwährenden Lüge, wie es den
Nordländer zur warmen Kleidung zwingt.


Sein Leben innerhalb anderer Völker kann auf die Dauer nur währen, wenn es
ihm gelingt, die Meinung zu er. wecken, als handle es sich bei ihm um kein
Volk, sondern um eine, wenn auch besondere "Religionsgemeinschaft".


Dies ist aber die erste große Lüge.


Er muß, um sein Dasein als Völkerparasit führen zu können, zur Verleugnung
seiner inneren Wesensart greifen. Je intelligenter der einzelne Jude ist, um
so mehr wird ihm diese Täuschung auch gelingen. Ja, es kann so weit kommen,
daß große Teile des Wirtsvolkes endlich ernstlich glauben werden, der Jude
sei wirklich ein Franzose oder Engländer, ein Deutscher oder Italiener, wenn
auch von besonderer Konfession. Besonders staatliche Stellen, die ja immer
von dem historischen Bruchteil der Weisheit beseelt zu sein scheinen, fallen
diesem infamen Betrug am leichtesten zum Opfer. Das selbständige Denken gilt
in diesem Kreisen ja manchmal als eine wahre Sünde wider das heilige
Fortkommen, so daß es einen nicht wundernehmen darf, wenn z. B. ein
bayerisches Staatsministerium auch heute noch keine blasse Ahnung davon
besitzt, daß die Juden Angehörige eines Volkes sind und nicht einer
"Konfession", obwohl nur ein Blick in die dem Judentum eigene Zeitungswelt
dies selbst dem bescheidensten Geist sofort aufzeigen müßte. Allerdings ist
das "Jüdische Echo" ja noch nicht das Amtsblatt und folglich für den
Verstand
eines solchen Regierungspotentaten unmaßgeblich.


Das Judentum war immer ein Volk mit bestimmten rassischen Eigenarten und
niemals eine Religion, nur sein Fortkommen ließ es schon frühzeitig nach
einem Mittel suchen, das die unangenehme Aufmerksamkeit in bezug auf seine
Angehörigen zu zerstreuen vermochte. Welches Mittel aber wäre zweckmäßiger
und zugleich harmloser gewesen als die Einschiebung des geborgten Begriffs
der Religions- gemeinschaft? Denn auch hier ist alles entlehnt, besser
gestohlen ? aus dem ursprünglichen eigenen Wesen kann der Jude eine
religiöse
Einrichtung schon deshalb nicht besitzen, da ihm der Idealismus in jeder
Form
fehlt und damit auch der Glaube an ein Jenseits vollkommen fremd ist. Man
kann
sich aber eine Religion nach arischer Auffassung nicht vorstellen, der die
Überzeugung des Fortlebens nach dem Tode in irgendeiner Form mangelt.
Tatsächlich ist auch der Talmud kein Buch der Vorbereitung für das Jenseits,
sondern nur für ein praktisches und erträgliches Leben im Diesseits.


Die jüdische Religionslehre ist in erster Linie eine Anweisung zur
Reinhaltung des Blutes des Judentums sowie zur Regelung des Verkehrs der
Juden untereinander, mehr aber noch mit der übrigen Welt, mit den Nichtjuden
also. Aber auch hier handelt es sich keineswegs um ethische Probleme,
sondern
um außerordentlich bescheidene wirtschaftliche. Über den sittlichen Wert des
jüdischen Religionsunterrichtes gibt es heute und gab es zu allen Zeiten
schon ziemlich eingehende Studien (nicht jüdischerseits; die Schwafeleien
der
Juden selber darüber sind natürlich dem Zweck angepaßt), die diese Art von
Religion nach arischen Begriffen als geradezu unheimlich erscheinen lassen.
Die beste Kennzeichnung jedoch gibt das Produkt dieser religiösen Erziehung,
der Jude selber. Sein Leben ist nur von dieser Welt, und sein Geist ist dem
wahren Christentum innerlich so fremd, wie sein Wesen es zweitausend Jahre
vorher dem großen Gründer der neuen Lehre selber war. Freilich machte dieser
aus seiner Gesinnung dem jüdischen Volke gegenüber kein Hehl, griff, wenn
nötig, sogar zur Peitsche, um aus dem Tempel des Herrn diesen Widersacher
jedes Menschentums zu treiben, der auch damals wie immer in der Religion nur
ein Mittel zur geschäftlichen Existenz sah. Dafür wurde dann Christus
freilich an das Kreuz geschlagen, wahrend unser heutiges Parteichristentum
sich herabwürdigt, bei den Wahlen um jüdische Stimmen zu betteln und später
mit atheistischen Judenparteien politische Schiebungen zu Vereinbaren sucht,
und zwar gegen das eigene Volkstum.


Auf dieser ersten und größten Lüge, das Judentum sei nicht eine Rasse,
sondern eine Religion, bauen sich dann in zwangsläufiger Folge immer weitere
Lügen auf. Zu ihnen gehört auch die Lüge hinsichtlich der Sprache des Juden.
Sie ist ihm nicht das Mittel, seine Gedanken auszudrücken, sondern das
Mittel, sie zu verbergen. Indem er französisch redet, denkt er jüdisch, und
während er deutsche Verse drechselt, lebt er nur das Wesen seines Volkstums
aus.


Solange der Jude nicht der Herr der anderen Völker geworden ist, muß er wohl
oder übel deren Sprachen sprechen, sobald diese jedoch seine Knechte waren,
hätten sie alle eine Universalsprache (z. B. Esperanto!) zu lernen, so daß
auch durch dieses Mittel das Judentum sie leichter beherrschen könnte!Wie
sehr das ganze Dasein dieses Volkes auf einer fortlaufenden Lüge beruht,
wird
in unvergleichlicher Art in den von den Juden so unendlich gehaßten
"Protokollen der Weisen von Zion" gezeigt. Sie sollen auf einer Fälschung
beruhen, stöhnt immer wieder die "Frankfurter Zeitung" in die Welt hinaus:
der beste Beweis dafür, daß sie echt sind. Was viele Juden unbewußt tun
mögen, ist hier bewußt klargelegt. Darauf aber kommt es an. Es ist ganz
gleich, aus wessen Judenkopf diese Enthüllungen stammen, maßgebend aber ist,
daß sie mit geradezu grauenerregender Sicherheit das Wesen und die Tätigkeit
des Judenvolkes aufdecken und in ihren inneren Zusammenhängen sowie den
letzten Schlußzielen darlegen. Die beste Kritik an ihnen jedoch bildet die
Wirklichkeit. Wer die geschichtliche Entwicklung der letzten hundert Jahre
von den Gesichtspunkten dieses Buches aus überprüft, dem wird auch das
Geschrei der jüdischen Presse sofort verständlich werden. Denn wenn dieses
Buch erst einmal Gemeingut eines Volkes geworden sein wird, darf die
jüdische
Gefahr auch schon als gebrochen gelten.


Um den Juden kennenzulernen, ist es am besten, seinen Weg zu studieren, den
er innerhalb der anderen Völker und im Laufe der Jahrhunderte genommen hat.
Es
genügt dabei, dies nur an einem Beispiele zu verfolgen, um zu den nötigen
Erkenntnissen zu kommen. Da sein Werdegang immer und zu allen Zeiten
derselbe
war, wie ja auch die von ihm angefressenen Völker immer die gleichen sind,
so
empfiehlt es sich, bei einer solchen Betrachtung seine Entwicklung in
bestimmte
Abschnitte zu zerlegen, die ich in diesem Falle der Einfachheit halber mit
Buchstaben bezeichne.


Die ersten Juden sind nach Germanien im Verlaufe des Vordringens der Römer
gekommen, und zwar wie immer als Händler. In den Stürmen der Völkerwanderung
aber sind sie anscheinend wieder verschwunden, und so darf als Beginn einer
neuen und nun bleibenden Verjudung Mittel- und Nordeuropas die Zeit der
ersten germanischen Staatenbildung angesehen werden. Eine Entwicklung setzt
ein, die immer dieselbe oder eine ähnliche war, wenn irgendwo Juden auf
arische Völker stießen.


a) Mit dem Entstehen der ersten festen Siedlungen ist der Jude plötzlich
"da". Er kommt als Händler und legt anfangs noch wenig Wert auf die
Verschleierung seines Volkstums. Er ist noch Jude, zum Teil vielleicht auch
deshalb, weil der äußere Rassenunterschied zwischen ihm und dem Gastvolk zu
groß, seine sprachlichen Kenntnisse noch zu gering, die Abgeschlossenheit
des
Gastvolkes jedoch zu scharf sind, als daß er es wagen dürfte, als etwas
anderes denn ein fremder Händler erscheinen zu wollen. Bei seiner
Geschmeidigkeit und der Unerfahrenheit des Gastvolkes bedeutet die
Beibehaltung seines Charakters als Jude auch keinen Nachteil für ihn,
sondern
eher einen Vorteil; man kommt dem Fremden freundlich entgegen.


b) Allmählich beginnt er sich langsam in der Wirtschaft zu betätigen, nicht
als Produzent, sondern ausschließlich als Zwischenglied. In seiner
tausendjährigen händlerischen Gewandtheit ist er den noch unbeholfenen,
besonders aber grenzenlos ehrlichen Ariern weit überlegen, so daß schon in
kurzer Zeit der Handel sein Monopol zu werden droht.


Er beginnt mit dem Verleihen von Geld, und zwar wie immer zu Wucherzinsen.
Tatsächlich führt er den Zins auch dadurch ein. Die Gefahr dieser neuen
Einrichtung wird zunächst nicht erkannt, sondern um der augenblicklichen
Vorteile wegen sogar begrüßt.c) Der Jude ist vollkommen seßhaft geworden, d.
h. er besiedelt in den Städten und Flecken besondere Viertel und bildet
immer
mehr einen Staat im Staate. Den Handel sowohl als sämtliche Geldgeschäfte
faßt er als sein eigenstes Privileg auf, das er rücksichtslos auswertet.


D) Das Geldgeschäft und der Handel sind restlos sein Monopol geworden. Seine
Wucherzinsen erregen endlich Widerstand, seine zunehmende sonstige Frechheit
aber Empörung, sein Reichtum Neid. Das Maß wird übervoll, als er auch den
Grund und Boden in den Kreis seiner händlerischen Objekte einbezieht und ihn
zur verkäuflichen, besser, handelbaren Ware erniedrigt. Da er selber den
Boden nie bebaut, sondern bloß als ein Ausbeutungsgut betrachtet, auf dem
der
Bauer sehr wohl bleiben kann, allein unter den elendsten Erpressungen
seitens
seines nunmehrigen Herrn, steigert sich die Abneigung gegen ihn allmählich
zum offenen Haß. Seine blutsaugerische Tyrannei wird so groß. daß es zu
Ausschreitungen gegen ihn kommt. Man beginnt sich den Fremden immer näher
anzusehen und entdeckt immer neue abstoßende Züge und Wesensarten an ihm,
bis
die Kluft unüberbrückbar wird.


In Zeiten bitterster Not bricht endlich die Wut gegen ihn aus, und die
ausgeplünderten und zugrunde gerichteten Massen greifen zur Selbsthilfe, um
sich der Gottesgeißel zu erwehren. Sie haben ihn im Laufe einiger
Jahrhunderte kennengelernt und empfinden schon sein bloßes Dasein als
gleiche
Not wie die Pest.


E) Nun beginnt der Jude aber seine wahren Eigenschaften zu enthüllen. Mit
widerlicher Schmeichelei macht er sich an die Regierungen heran, läßt sein
Geld arbeiten und sichert sich auf solche Art immer wieder den Freibrief zu
neuer Ausplünderung seiner Opfer. Wenn auch manchmal die Wut des Volkes
gegen
den ewigen Blutegel lichterloh


{340 Der Werdegang des Judentums}


aufbrennt, so hindert ihn dies nicht im geringsten, in wenigen Jahren schon
wieder in dem kaum verlassenen Orte neuerdings aufzutauchen und das alte
Leben von vorne zu beginnen. Keine Verfolgung kann ihn von seiner Art der
Menschenausbeutung abbringen, keine ihn vertreiben, nach jeder ist er in
kurzer Zeit wieder da, und zwar als der alte.


Um wenigstens das Allerärgste zu verhindern, beginnt man, den Boden seiner
wucherischen Hand zu entziehen, indem man ihm die Erwerbung desselben
einfach
gesetzlich unmöglich macht.


F) In dem Maße, in dem die Macht der Fürsten zu steigen beginnt, drangt er
sich immer näher an diese heran. Er bettelt um "Freibriefe" und
"Privilegien", die er von den stets in Finanznöten befindlichen Herren gegen
entsprechende Bezahlung gerne erhält. Was ihn dieses auch kostet, er bringt
in wenigen Jahren das ausgegebene Geld mit Zins und Zinseszins wieder
herein.
Ein wahrer Blutegel, der sich an den Körper des unglücklichen Volkes ansetzt
und nicht wegzubringen ist, bis die Fürsten selber wieder Geld brauchen und
ihm das ausgesogene Blut höchst persönlich abzapfen.


Dieses Spiel wiederholt sich immer von neuem, wobei die Rolle der
sogenannten
"deutschen Fürsten" genau so erbärmlich wie die der Juden selber ist. Sie
waren wirklich die Strafe Gottes für ihre lieben Völker, diese Herren, und
finden ihre Parallele nur in verschiedenen Ministern der heutigen Zeit.


Den deutschen Fürsten ist es zu danken, daß die deutsche Nation sich von der
jüdischen Gefahr nicht endgültig zu er. lösen vermochte. Leider hat sich
darin auch später nichts geändert, so daß ihnen vom Juden nur der
tausendfach
verdiente Lohn zuteil wurde für die Sünden, die sie an ihren Völkern einst
verbrochen haben. Sie verbündeten sich mit dem Teufel und landeten bei ihm.


G) So führt seine Umgarnung der Fürsten zu deren Verderben. Langsam, aber
sicher lockert sich ihre Stellung zu den Völkern in dem Maße, in dem sie
aufhören, den Interessen derselben zu dienen, und statt dessen zu
Nutznießern
ihrer Untertanen werden. Der Jude weiß ihr Ende genau und sucht es nach
Möglichkeit
zu beschleunigen. Er selber fördert ihre ewige Finanznot, indem er sie den
wahren Aufgaben immer mehr entfremdet, in übelster Schmeichelei umkriecht,
zu
Lastern anleitet und sich dadurch immer unentbehrlicher macht. Seine
Gewandtheit, besser Skrupellosigkeit in allen Geldangelegenheiten versteht
es, immer neue Mittel aus den ausgeplünderten Untertanen herauszupressen, ja
herauszuschinden, die in immer kürzeren Zeiträumen den Weg alles Irdischen
gehen. So hat jeder Hof seinen "Hofjuden" ? wie die Scheusale heißen, die
das
liebe Volk bis zur Verzweiflung quälen und den Fürsten das ewige Vergnügen
bereiten. Wen will es da wundernehmen, daß diese Zierden des menschlichen
Geschlechtes endlich auch äußerlich geziert werden und in den erblichen
Adelsstand emporsteigen, so mithelfen, auch diese Einrichtung nicht nur der
Lächerlichkeit preiszugeben, sondern sogar zu vergiften?Nun vermag er
natürlich erst recht seine Stellung zugunsten seines Fortkommens zu
verwenden.


Endlich braucht er sich ja nur taufen zu lassen, um in den Besitz aller
Möglichkeiten und Rechte der Landeskinder selber kommen zu können. Er
besorgt
dieses Geschäft denn auch nicht selten zur Freude der Kirchen aber den
gewonnenen Sohn und Israels aber den gelungenen Schwindel.


H) In der Judenheit beginnt sich jetzt ein Wandel zu vollziehen. Sie waren
bisher Juden, d. h. man legte keinen Wert darauf, als etwas anderes
erscheinen zu wollen, und konnte dies auch nicht bei den so überaus
ausgeprägten Rassenmerkmalen auf beiden Seiten. Noch in der Zeit Friedrichs
des Großen fällt es keinem Menschen ein, in den Juden etwas anderes als das
"fremde" Volk zu sehen, und noch Goethe ist entsetzt bei dem Gedanken, daß
künftig die Ehe zwischen Christen und Juden nicht mehr gesetzlich verboten
sein soll. Goethe aber war denn doch, wahrhaftiger Gott, kein Rückschrittler
oder gar Zelot; was aus ihm sprach, war nichts anderes als die Stimme des
Blutes und der Vernunft. So erblickte ? trotz aller schmachvollen Handlungen
der Höfe ? das Volk im Juden instinktiv den fremden Körper im eigenen Leibe
und
stellte sich demgemäß auch zu ihm ein.


Nun aber sollte dies anders werden. Im Laufe von mehr als tausend Jahren hat
er die Sprache des Gastvolkes so weit beherrschen gelernt, daß er es nun
wagen zu können glaubt, sein Judentum künftig etwas weniger zu betonen und
sein "Deutschtum" mehr in den Vordergrund zu stellen; denn so lächerlich, ja
aberwitzig es zunächst auch erscheinen mag, nimmt er sich dennoch die
Freiheit heraus und verwandelt sich in einen "Germanen", in diesem Falle
also
in einen "Deutschen". Damit setzt eine der infamsten Täuschungen ein, die
sich denken läßt. Da er vom Deutschtum wirklich nichts besitzt als die
Kunst,
seine Sprache noch dazu in fürchterlicher Weise ? zu radebrechen, im übrigen
aber niemals sich mit ihm vermengte, beruht mithin sein ganzes Deutschtum
nur
auf der Sprache allein. Die Rasse aber liegt nicht in der Sprache, sondern
ausschließlich im Blute, etwas, das niemand besser weiß als der Jude, der
gerade auf die Erhaltung seiner Sprache nur sehr wenig Wert legt, hingegen
allen Wert auf die Reinhaltung seines Blutes. Ein Mensch kann ohne weiteres
die Sprache ändern, d. h. er kann sieh einer anderen bedienen; allein er
wird
dann in seiner neuen Sprache die alten Gedanken ausdrücken; sein inneres
Wesen wird nicht verändert. Dies zeigt am allerbesten der Jude, der in
tausend Sprachen reden kann und dennoch immer der eine Jude bleibt. Seine
Charaktereigenschaften sind dieselben geblieben, mochte er vor zweitausend
Jahren als Getreidehändler in Ostia römisch sprechen oder mag er als
Mehlschieber von heute deutsch mauscheln. Es ist immer der gleiche Jude. Daß
diese Selbstverständlichkeit von einem normalen heutigen Ministerialrat oder
höheren Polizeibeamten nicht begriffen wird, ist freilich auch
selbstverständlich, läuft doch etwas Instinkt- und Geistloseres schwerlich
herum als diese Diener unserer vorbildlichen Staatsautorität der Gegenwart.


Der Grund, warum sich der Jude entschließt, auf einmal zum "Deutschen" zu
werden, liegt auf der Hand. Er fühlt, wie die Macht der Fürsten langsam ins
Wanken gerät, und sucht deshalb frühzeitig eine Plattform unter seine Füße
zu
bekommen. Weiter aber ist seine geldliche Beherrschung der gesamten
Wirtschaft
schon so fortgeschritten, daß
er ohne den Besitz aller "staatsbürgerlichen" Rechte das ganze ungeheure
Gebäude nicht mehr länger zu stützen vermag, auf alle Fälle keine weitere
Steigerung seines Einflusses mehr stattfinden kann. Beides aber wünscht er;
denn je höher er klimmt, um so lockender steigt aus dem Schleier der
Vergangenheit sein altes, ihm einst verhießenes Ziel heraus, und mit
fiebernder Gier sehen seine hellsten Köpfe den Traum der Weltherrschaft
schon
wieder in faßbare Nähe rücken. So ist sein einziges Streben darauf
gerichtet,
sich in den Vollbesitz der "staatsbürgerlichen" Rechte zu setzen.


Dies ist der Grund der Emanzipation aus dem Ghetto.


I) So entwickelt sich aus dem Hofjuden langsam der Volksjude, das heißt
natürlich: der Jude bleibt nach wie vor in der Umgebung der hohen Herren,
ja,
er sucht sich eher noch mehr in deren Kreis hineinzuschieben, allein zu
gleicher Zeit biedert sich ein anderer Teil seiner Rasse an das liebe Volk
an. Wenn man bedenkt, wie sehr er an der Masse im Laufe der Jahrhunderte
gesündigt hatte, wie er sie immer von neuem unbarmherzig auspreßte und
aussog, wenn man weiter bedenkt, wie ihn das Volk dafür allmählich hassen
lernte und am Ende in seinem Dasein wirklich nur mehr eine Strafe des
Himmels
für die anderen Völker erblickte, so kann man verstehen, wie schwer dem
Juden
diese Umstellung werden muß. Ja, es ist eine mühsame Arbeit, sich den
abgehäuteten Opfern auf einmal als "Freund der Menschen" vorzustellen.


Er geht denn auch zunächst daran, in den Augen des Volkes wieder
gutzumachen,
was er bisher an ihm verbrochen hatte. Er beginnt seine Wandlung als
"Wohltäter" der Menschheit. Da seine neue Güte einen realen Grund hat, kann
er sich auch nicht gut an das alte Bibelwort halten, daß die Linke nicht
wissen solle, was die Rechte gibt, sondern er muß sich wohl oder übel damit
abfinden, möglichst


viele wissen zu lassen, wie sehr er die Leiden der Masse empfindet, und was
alles er dagegen persönlich an Opfern bringt. In dieser ihm nun einmal
angeborenen Bescheidenheit trommelt er seine Verdienste in die übrige Welt
so
lange hinaus, bis diese wirklich daran zu glauben beginnt. Wer nicht daran
glaubt, tut ihm bitter Unrecht. In kurzer Zeit schon fängt er an, die Dinge
so zu drehen, als ob bisher überhaupt nur ihm immer Unrecht zugefügt worden
wäre und nicht umgekehrt. Besonders Dumme glauben dies und können dann nicht
anders, als den armen "Unglücklichen" zu bedauern.


Im übrigen wäre hier noch zu bemerken, daß der Jude bei aller
Opferfreudigkeit persönlich natürlich dennoch nie verarmt. Er versteht schon
einzuteilen; ja, manchmal ist seine Wohltat wirklich nur mit dem Dünger zu
vergleichen, der auch nicht aus Liebe zum Feld auf dieses gestreut wird,
sondern aus Voraussicht für das spätere eigene Wohl. Auf jeden Fall aber
weiß
in verhältnismäßig kurzer Zeit alles, daß der Jude ein "Wohltäter und
Menschenfreund" geworden ist. Welch ein eigentümlicher Wandel!Was aber bei
anderen mehr oder weniger als selbstverständlich gilt, erweckt schon deshalb
höchstes Erstaunen, ja bei vielen ersichtliche Bewunderung, weil es bei ihm
eben nicht selbstverständlich ist. So kommt es, daß man ihm auch jede solche
Tat noch um vieles höher anrechnet als der übrigen Menschheit.


Aber noch mehr: Der Jude wird auf einmal auch liberal und fängt an, vom
notwendigen Fortschritt der Menschheit zu schwärmen.


Langsam macht er sich so zum Wortführer einer neuen Zeit.


Freilich zerstört er auch immer gründlicher die Grundlagen einer wahrhaft
volkstümlichen Wirtschaft. Über dem Umwege der Aktie schiebt er sich in den
Kreislauf der nationalen Produktion ein, macht diese zum käuflichen, besser
handelbaren Schacherobjekt und raubt damit den Betrieben die Grundlagen
einer
persönlichen Besitzerschaft. Damit erst tritt zwischen Arbeitgeber und
Arbeitnehmer jene innere Entfremdung ein, die zur späteren politischen
Klassenspaltung hinüberleitet.


Endlich aber wächst die jüdische Einflußnahme auf wirtschaftliche Belange
aber die Börse nun unheimlich schnell an. Er wird zum Besitzer oder doch zum
Kontrolleur der nationalen Arbeitskraft.


Zur Stärkung seiner politischen Sicherheit versucht er, die rassischen und
staatsbürgerlichen Schranken einzureißen, die ihn zunächst noch auf Schritt
und Tritt beengen. Er kämpft zu diesem Zwecke mit aller ihm eigenen
Zähigkeit
für die religiöse Toleranz ? und hat in der ihm vollständig verfallenen
Freimaurerei ein vorzügliches Instrument zur Verfechtung wie aber auch zur
Durchschiebung seiner Ziele. Die Kreise der Regierenden sowie die höheren
Schichten des politischen und wirtschaftlichen Bürgertums gelangen durch
maurerische Fäden in seine Schlingen, ohne das sie es auch nur zu ahnen
brauchen.


Nur das Volk als solches oder besser der Stand, der, im Erwachen begriffen,
sich selber seine Rechte und die Freiheit erkämpft, kann dadurch in tieferen
und breiteren Schichten noch nicht genügend erfaßt werden. Dieses aber ist
nötiger als alles andere; denn der Jude fühlt, daß die Möglichkeit seines
Aufstieges zu einer beherrschenden Rolle nur gegeben ist, wenn sich vor ihm
ein "Schrittmacher" befindet; den aber vermeint er im Bürgertum, und zwar in
den breitesten Schichten desselben, erkennen zu können. Die Handschuhmacher
und Leineweber aber kann man nicht mit dem feinen Netz der Freimaurerei
einfangen, sondern es müssen hier schon gröbere und dabei aber nicht minder
eindringliche Mittel angesetzt werden. So kommt zur Freimaurerei als zweite
Waffe im Dienste des Judentums: die Presse. In ihren Besitz setzt er sich
mit
aller Zähigkeit und Geschicklichkeit. Mit ihr beginnt er langsam das ganze
öffentliche Leben zu umklammern und zu umgarnen, zu leiten und zu schieben,
da er in der Lage ist, jene Macht zu erzeugen und zu dirigieren, die man
unter der Bezeichnung "öffentliche Meinung" heute besser kennt als noch vor
wenigen Jahrzehnten.


Dabei stellt er sich persönlich immer als unendlich wissensdurstig hin, lobt
jeden Fortschritt, am meisten freilich den, der zum Verderben der anderen
führt; denn jedes Wissen und jede Entwicklung beurteilt er immer nur nach
der
Möglichkeit der Förderung seines Volkstums, und wo diese fehlt, ist er der
unerbittliche Todfeind jedes Lichtes, der Hasser jeder wahren Kultur. So
verwendet er alles Wissen, das er in den Schulen der anderen aufnimmt, nur
im
Dienste seiner Rasse.


Dieses Volkstum aber hütet er wie nie zuvor. Während er von "Aufklärung",
"Fortschritt, "Freiheit", "Menschentum" usw. überzufließen scheint, übt er
selber strengste Abschließung seiner Rasse. Wohl hängt er seine Frauen
manchmal einflußreichen Christen an, allein, er erhält seinen männlichen
Stamm grundsätzlich immer rein. Er vergiftet das Blut der andern, wahrt aber
sein eigenes. Der Jude heiratet fast nie eine Christin, sondern der Christ
die Jüdin. Die Bastards [Mischlinge] aber schlagen dennoch nach der
jüdischen
Seite aus. Besonders ein Teil des höheren Adels verkommt vollständig. Der
Jude weiß das ganz genau und betreibt deshalb diese Art der "Entwaffnung"
der
geistigen Führerschicht seiner rassischen Gegner planmäßig. Zur Maskierung
des Treibens und zur Einschläferung seiner Opfer jedoch redet er immer mehr
von der Gleichheit aller Menschen, ohne Rücksicht auf Rasse und Farbe. Die
Dummen beginnen es ihm zu glauben.


Da jedoch sein ganzes Wesen immer noch zu stark den Geruch des allzu Fremden
an sich haften hat, als daß besonders die breite Masse des Volkes ohne
weiteres in sein Garn gehen würde, läßt er durch seine Presse ein Bild von
sich geben, das der Wirklichkeit so wenig entspricht, wie es umgekehrt
seinem
verfolgten Zwecke dient. In Witzblättern besonders bemüht man sich, die
Juden
als ein harmloses Völkchen hinzustellen, das nun einmal seine Eigenarten
besitzt ? wie eben andere auch ?, das aber doch, selbst in seinem vielleicht
etwas fremd anmutenden Gebaren, Anzeichen einer möglicherweise komischen,
jedoch immer grundehrlichen und gütigen Seele von sich gebe. Wie man sich
überhaupt bemüht, ihn immer mehr unbedeutend als gefährlich erscheinen zu
lassen.


Sein Endziel in diesem Stadium aber ist der Sieg der Demokratie oder, wie er
es versteht: die Herrschaft des Parlamentarismus. Sie entspricht am meisten
seiten Bedürfnissen; schaltet sie doch die Persönlichkeit aus ? und setzt an
ihre Stelle die Majorität der Dummheit, Unfähigkeit und nicht zum letzten
aber der Feigheit.


Das Endergebnis wird der Sturz der Monarchie sein, der nun früher oder
später
eintreten muß.


J) Die ungeheure wirtschaftliche Entwicklung führt zu einer Änderung der
sozialen Schichtung des Volkes. ludet das kleine Handwerk langsam abstirbt
und damit die Möglichkeit der Gewinnung einer selbständigen Existenz für den
Arbeiter immer seltener wird, verproletarisiert dieser zusehends. Es
entsteht
der industrielle "Fabrikarbeiter", dessen wesentlichstes Merkmal darin zu
suchen ist, daß er kaum je in die Lage kommt, sich im späteren Leben eine
eigene Existenz gründen zu können. Er ist im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes
besitzlos, seine alten Tage sind eine Qual und kaum mehr mit Leben zu
bezeichnen.


Schon früher wurde einmal eine ähnliche Lage geschaffen, die gebieterisch
einer Lösung zudrängte und sie auch fand. Zum Bauern und Handwerker waren
als
weiterer Stand langsam der Beamte und Angestellte ? besonders des Staates ?
gekommen. Auch sie waren Besitzlose im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes. Der Staat
fand aus diesem ungesunden Zustand endlich dadurch einen Ausweg, daß er die
Versorgung des Staatsangestellten, der selbst für seine alten Tage nicht
vorbeugen konnte, übernahm und die Pension, das Ruhegehalt, einführte.
Langsam folgten immer mehr private Betriebe diesem Beispiele, so daß heute
fast jeder geistige Festangestellte seine spätere Pension bezieht, sofern
der
Betrieb eine bestimmte Größe schon erreicht oder überschritten hat. Und erst
die Sicherung des Staatsbeamten im Alter vermochte diesen zu jener
selbstlosen Pflichttreue zu erziehen, die in der Vorkriegszeit die
vornehmste
Eigenschaft des deutschen Beamtentums war.


So wurde ein ganzer Stand, der eigentumslos blieb, in kluger Weise dem
sozialen Elend entrissen und damit dem Volksganzen eingegliedert.


Nun war diese Lage neuerdings und diesmal in viel größerem Umfange an den
Staat und die Nation heran. getreten. Immer neue, in die Millionen gehende
Menschenmassen siedelten aus den bäuerlichen Orten in die größeren Städte
aber, um als Fabrikarbeiter in den neugegründeten Industrien das tägliche
Brot zu verdienen. Arbeits- und Lebensverhältnisse des neuen Standes waren
schlimmer als traurig. Schon die mehr oder minder mechanische Übertragung
der
früheren Arbeitsmethoden des alten Handwerkers oder auch Bauern auf die neue
Form paßte in keinerlei Weise. Die Tätigkeit des einen wie des anderen ließ
sich nicht mehr vergleichen mit den Anstrengungen, die der industrielle
Fabrikarbeiter zu leisten hat. Bei dem alten Handwerk mochte die Zeit
vielleicht weniger eine Rolle spielen, aber bei den neuen Arbeitsmethoden
spielte sie diese um so mehr. Die formale Übernahme der alten Arbeitszeiten
in den industriellen Großbetrieb wirkte geradezu verhängnisvoll; denn die
tatsächliche Arbeitsleistung von einst war infolge des Fehlens der heutigen
intensiven Arbeitsmethoden nur klein. Wenn man also vorher den Vierzehn-
oder
Fünfzehnstunden-Arbeitstag noch ertragen konnte, dann vermochte man ihn
sicher nicht mehr zu er. tragen in einer Zeit, da jede Minute auf das
äußerste ausgenützt wird. Wirklich war das Ergebnis dieser sinnlosen
Übertragung alter Arbeitszeiten auf die neue industrielle Tätigkeit nach
zwei
Richtungen unglückselig: die Gesundheit wurde vernichtet und der Glaube an
ein höheres Recht zerstört. Endlich kam hierzu noch die jämmerliche
Entlohnung einerseits und die demgemäß ersichtlich um so viel bessere
Stellung des Arbeitgebers andererseits.


Auf dem Lande konnte es eine soziale Frage nicht geben, da Herr und Knecht
die gleiche Arbeit taten und vor allem aus gleicher Schüssel aßen. Aber auch
dies änderte sich.


Die Trennung des Arbeitnehmers vom Arbeitgeber erscheint jetzt auf allen
Gebieten des Lebens vollzogen. Wie weit dabei die innere Verjudung unseres
Volkes schon fortgeschritten ist,
kann man an der geringen Achtung, wenn nicht schon Verachtung ersehen, die
man der Handarbeit an sich zollt. Deutsch ist dies nicht. Erst die
Verwelschung unseres Lebens, die aber in Wahrheit eine Verjudung war,
wandelte die einstige Achtung vor dem Handwerk in eine gewisse Verachtung
jeder körperlichen Arbeit überhaupt.


So entsteht tatsächlich ein neuer, nur sehr wenig geachteter Stand, und es
muß eines Tages die Frage auftauchen, ob die Nation die Kraft besitzen
würde,
von sich aus den neuen Stand in die allgemeine Gesellschaft wieder
einzugliedern, oder ob sich der standesmäßige Unterschied zur klassenartigen
Kluft erweitern würde.


Eines aber ist sicher: der neue Stand besaß nicht die schlechtesten Elements
in seinen Reihen, sondern im Gegenteil auf alle Fälle die tatkräftigsten.
Die
Überfeinerungen der sogenannten Kultur hatten hier noch nicht ihre
zersetzenden und zerstörenden Wirkungen ausgeübt. Der neue Stand war in
seiner breiten Masse noch nicht von dem Gifte pazifistischer Schwäche
angekränkelt, sondern robust und, wenn nötig, auch brutal.


Während sich das Bürgertum um diese so schwerwiegende Frage überhaupt nicht
kümmert, sondern gleichgültig die Dinge laufen läßt, erfaßt der Jude die
unübersehbare Möglichkeit, die sich hier für die Zukunft bietet, und indem
er
auf der einen Seite die kapitalistischen Methoden der Menschenausbeutung bis
zur letzten Konsequenz organisiert, macht er sich an die Opfer seines
Geistes
und Waltens selber heran und wird in kurzer Zeit schon der Führer ihres
Kampfes gegen sich selbst. Das heißt freilich, nur bildlich gesprochen,
"gegen sich selbst", denn der große Meister im Lügen versteht es, sich wie
immer als den Reinen erscheinen zu lassen und die Schuld den anderen
aufzubürden. Da er die Frechheit besitzt, die Masse selber zu führen, kommt
diese auch gar nicht auf den Gedanken, daß es sich um den infamsten Betrug
aller Zeiten handeln könnte.


Und doch war es so.


Kaum daß der neue Stand sich aus der allgemeinen wirt-
schaftlichen Umbildung herausentwickelt, sieht auch der Jude schon den neuen
Schrittmacher zu seinem eigenen weiteren Fortkommen klar und deutlich vor
sich. Erst benützte er das Bürgertum als Sturmbock gegen die feudale Welt,
nun den Arbeiter gegen die bürgerliche. Wußte er aber einst im Schatten des
Bürgertums sich die bürgerlichen Rechte zu erschleichen, so hofft er nun, im
Kampfe des Arbeiters ums Dasein, den Weg zur eigenen Herrschaft zu finden.


Von jetzt ab hat der Arbeiter nur mehr die Aufgabe, für die Zukunft des
jüdischen Volkes zu fechten. Unbewußt wird er in den Dienst der Macht
gestellt, die er zu bekämpfen vermeint. Man läßt ihn scheinbar gegen das
Kapital anrennen und kann ihn so am leichtesten gerade für dieses kämpfen
lassen. Man schreit dabei immer gegen das internationale Kapital und meint
in
Wahrheit die nationale Wirtschaft. Diese soll demoliert werden, damit auf
ihrem Leichenfeld die internationale Börse triumphieren kann.


Das Vorgehen des Juden dabei ist folgendes:Er macht sich an den Arbeiter
heran, heuchelt Mitleid mit dessen Schicksal oder gar Empörung aber dessen
Los des Elends und der Armut, um auf diesem Wege das Vertrauen zu gewinnen.
Er bemüht sich, alle die einzelnen tatsächlichen oder auch eingebildeten
Hirten seines Lebens zu studieren ? und die Sehnsucht nach Änderung eines
solchen Daseins zu erwecken. Das in jedem arischen Menschen irgendwie
schlummernde Bedürfnis nach sozialer Gerechtigkeit steigert er in unendlich
kluger Weise zum Haß gegen die vom Glück besser Bedachten und gibt dabei dem
Kampfe um die Beseitigung sozialer Schäden ein ganz bestimmtes
weltanschauungsmäßiges Gepräge. Er begründet die marxistische Lehre.


Indem er sie als mit einer ganzen Anzahl von sozial gerechten Forderungen
unzertrennlich verknüpft hinstellt, fördert er ebenso ihre Verbreitung wie
umgekehrt die Abneigung der anständigen Menschheit, Forderungen
nachzukommen,
die, in solcher Form und Begleitung vorgebracht, von Anfang an als
ungerecht,
ja unmöglich erfüllbar erscheinen.


Denn unter diesem Mantel rein sozialer Gedanken liegen wahrhaft teuflische
Absichten verborgen, ja, sie werden mit frechster Deutlichkeit auch wohl in
voller Öffentlichkeit vorgetragen. Diese Lehre stellt ein unzertrennliches
Gemisch von Vernunft und menschlichem Aberwitz dar, aber immer so, daß nur
der Wahnsinn zur Wirklichkeit zu werden vermag, niemals die Vernunft. Durch
die kategorische Ablehnung der Persönlichkeit und damit der Nation und ihres
rassischen Inhalts zerstört sie die elementaren Grundlagen der gesamten
menschlichen Kultur, die gerade von diesen Faktoren abhängig ist. Dieses ist
der wahre innere Kern der marxistischen Weltanschauung, sofern man diese
Ausgeburt eines verbrecherischen Gehirns als "Weltanschauung" bezeichnen
darf. Mit der Zertrümmerung der Persönlichkeit und der Rasse fällt das
wesentliche Hindernis für die Herrschaft des Minderwertigen dieser aber ist
der Jude.


Gerade im wirtschaftlichen und politischen Wahnwitz liegt der Sinn dieser
Lehre. Denn durch ihn werden alle wahrhaft Intelligenten abgehalten, sich in
ihren Dienst zu stellen, während die minder geistig Tätigen und
wirtschaftlich schlecht Gebildeten mit fliegenden Fahnen ihr zueilen. Die
Intelligenz für die Bewegung aber ? denn auch diese Bewegung braucht zu
ihrem
Bestehen Intelligenz ? "opfert" der Jude aus seinen eigenen Reihen.


So entsteht eine reine Handarbeiterbewegung unter jüdischer Führung,
scheinbar darauf ausgehend, die Lage des Arbeiters zu verbessern, in
Wahrheit
aber die Versklavung und damit die Vernichtung aller nichtjüdischen Völker
beabsichtigend.


Was die Freimaurerei in den Kreisen der sogenannten Intelligenz an allgemein
pazifistischer Lähmung des nationalen Selbsterhaltungstriebes einleitet,
wird
durch die Tätigkeit der großen, heute immer jüdischen Presse der breiteren
Masse, vor allem aber dem Bürgertum, vermittelt. Zu diesen beiden Waffen der
Zersetzung kommt nun als dritte und weitaus furchtbarste die Organisation
der
rohen Gewalt. Der Marxismus soll als Angriffs- und Sturm-


kolonne vollenden, was die Zermürbungsarbeit der beiden ersten Waffen
vorbereitend schon zum Zusammenbruch heranreifen ließ.


Es vollzieht sich damit ein wahrhaft meisterhaftes Zusammenspiel, so daß man
sich wirklich nicht zu wundern braucht, wenn demgegenüber gerade diejenigen
Institutionen am meisten versagen, die sich immer so gerne als die Träger
der
mehr oder minder sagenhaften staatlichen Autorität vorzustellen belieben. In
unserem hohen und höchsten Beamtentum des Staates hat der Jude zu allen
Zeiten (von wenigen Ausnahmen abgesehen) den willfährigsten Förderer seiner
Zersetzungsarbeit gefunden. Kriechende Unterwürfigkeit nach "Oben" und
arrogante Hochnäsigkeit nach "unten" zeichnen diesen Stand ebensosehr aus
wie
"eine oft himmelschreiende Borniertheit, die nur durch die manchmal geradezu
erstaunliche Einbildung übertroffen wird.


Dieses aber sind Eigenschaften, die der Jude bei unseren Behörden braucht
und
demgemäß auch liebt.


Der praktische Kampf, der nun einsetzt, verläuft, in großen Strichen
gezeichnet, folgendermaßen:Entsprechend den Schlußzielen des jüdischen
Kampfes, die sich nicht nur in der wirtschaftlichen Eroberung der Welt
erschöpfen, sondern auch deren politische Unterjochung fordern, teilt der
Jude die Organisation seiner marxistischen Weltlehre in zwei Hälften, die,
scheinbar voneinander getrennt, in Wahrheit aber ein untrennbares Ganzes
bilden: in die politische und die gewerkschaftliche Bewegung.


Kate

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And you're projecting.

You have to be one of the biggest idiots I've seen post here,
including dumber than duke.

that bad. really bad.

and no, Hitler was a christian. wrong again.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:37:08 -0500, "BAM"
<mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

You're a Christian pedophile enabler.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 29 Oct 2006 14:44:35 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Non sequitur. If you're going to define "Christians" in a way that
excludes ALL Christians who did something bad, then you better extend
the same logic to all other groups.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:56:41 -0000, "Malcolm"
<regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> <swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>Darius wrote:
>>>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>>>
>>>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>>>>
>>>> compiled by Jim Walker
>>>> created: 20 May 1998
>>>> additions: 13 May 2006
>>>>
>>>Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
>>>does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
>>
>> Just as being a Catholic doesn't necessarily make one a Christian.
>>
>> Which, I suspect, was the point.
>>
>Hilter was a nominal Catholic and therefore a nominal Christian. He seldom
>if ever attended Mass, so he wasn't a practising Catholic. Some of his
>policies were quite anti-Chrisitian, for instance chaplains weren't allowed
>in the German army.

Bullshit.


http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

"Nazi Army (Heer) CHAPLAIN'S hat with silver Christian cross
Navy (Kriegsmarine) CHAPLAIN'S cap
Another Nazi CHAPLAIN hat"

Why are you so dishonest?

>There is no point trying to restrict the meaning of Christian to "morally
>good person".
>>
>>>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
>>
>> God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
>> of His words.
>>
>Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.
>Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
>against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.

Is that way Christian anti-semitism existed for close to 2000 years?

David W. Barnes

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In article <u8ednYbzQ6K...@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> "Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> > <swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>Darius wrote:
> >>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
> >>>
> >>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
> >>>
> >>> compiled by Jim Walker
> >>> created: 20 May 1998
> >>> additions: 13 May 2006
> >>>
> >>Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
> >>does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
> >
> > Just as being a Catholic doesn't necessarily make one a Christian.
> >
> > Which, I suspect, was the point.
> >
> Hilter was a nominal Catholic and therefore a nominal Christian.

"Nominal" meaning he was a Catholic who is an embarrassment to
Catholicism (Yes - There are even MORE things the Catholics have to be
embarrassed about.) Therefore, you hope to diminish his Christianity.

> He seldom
> if ever attended Mass, so he wasn't a practising Catholic.

HE said he was a practicing Catholic. So did the Pope.

"On April 20, 1939, Archbishop Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday.
The celebrations, initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) became a
tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send
"warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and
the dioceses in Germany" and added with "fervent prayers which the
Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars."

> Some of his

> policies were quite anti-Chrisitian, for instance chaplains weren't allowed
> in the German army.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty
Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
work of the Lord." - Hitler

>
> There is no point trying to restrict the meaning of Christian to "morally
> good person".

Restrict? That would be "twist."

> >
> >>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
> >
> > God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
> > of His words.
> >
> Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.
> Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
> against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.

Because we all know how easy it is to have the bible say whatever we
want it to say. Example: Jesus was gay.

John 19:26-28, Jesus is described as seeing his mother and an
unidentified man: "the disciple standing by, whom he loved."

During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the authors of the
Gospel of John describe how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on
Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:13:00 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dba...@aol.com>
wrote:

>In article <u8ednYbzQ6K...@bt.com>, Malcolm
><regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> Some of his
>> policies were quite anti-Chrisitian, for instance chaplains weren't allowed
>> in the German army.
>
>"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty
>Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
>work of the Lord." - Hitler

It bears repeating that Malcolm is being a dishonest motherfucker
here.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

"Nazi Army (Heer) CHAPLAIN'S hat with silver Christian cross
Navy (Kriegsmarine) CHAPLAIN'S cap
Another Nazi CHAPLAIN hat"

ctyguy

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<swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1162151035.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Darius wrote:
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>
>> Catholic Church Nazi photos
>>
>> compiled by Jim Walker
>> created: 20 May 1998
>> additions: 13 May 2006
>>
> <snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.
>
>
> Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
> does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.


How does one identify a Christian? By those who want to drink Jesus's
blood? Who want to eat his broken body?

Michael Gray

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:41:09 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <9ueak2la8fmq2gj0i...@4ax.com>

>On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>
>
>>As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
>>Occult,
>
> You have read nothing but Jew propaganda. They control your media.
>
:

Gladys gets all of her "information" from the Watchtower.
She is quite the most bigoted unthinking cretin that I have
encountered on usenet.
She can't actually lie about anything, because she doesn't understand
anything.

Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
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Actually the bible says that believers will not be harmed by drinking any
deadly thing. I wonder how many would be willing to put this to the test?

Klazmon.

Truth PLEASE!

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Al Klein

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:07:10 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting Ass" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

[piggybacking]


>On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

>>We all need to seek forgivenees of God (in Jesus Christ)
>>for both sins of commission and sins of omission.

The only ones who can forgive Christianity for killing Jews in WWII
just for being Jews is the Jews who were killed. After you die ask
them to forgive you. There's no forgiveness for murder this side of
the grave.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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Al Klein

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On 29 Oct 2006 14:44:35 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
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>And the biblical description of a true Christian is?

Which one would you like?


--
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Al Klein

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:56:41 -0000, "Malcolm"
<regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.
>Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
>against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.

That's your interpretation. Any objective evidence why it's more
valid than Hitler's interpretation? Or more valid than the Baptist
interpretation for hundreds of years? Or more valid than the Mormon
interpretation until they were forced to change it?


--
rukbat at optonline dot net

"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]

Al Klein

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But medically and legally. We don't kill the insane now, we just make
sure that they can't escape.


--
rukbat at optonline dot net

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

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Isn't "Gladys" the idiot that worships a god she made up herself? You know,
err, "Talula" or something, if I remember correctly . . . Or was that a
different troll by the same name? Just curious.
--

Luke

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
" . . The bible is crap, people who believe it
are idiots, and blasphemy is a victimless
crime because the whole fetid pile of
christianic mythology is a ficticious crock of shit."
-Stix, undefeated former Warlord of the BAAWA
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


Truth PLEASE!

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David W. Barnes wrote:
> In article <u8ednYbzQ6K...@bt.com>, Malcolm
> <regn...@btinternet.com> wro
> > policies were quite anti-Chrisitian, for instance chaplains weren't allowed
> > in the German army.
>
> "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty
> Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
> work of the Lord." - Hitler
>
> >
> > There is no point trying to restrict the meaning of Christian to "morally
> > good person".
>
> Restrict? That would be "twist."
>
> > >
> > >>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
> > >
> > > God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
> > > of His words.
> > >
> > Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.
> > Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
> > against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.
>
> Because we all know how easy it is to have the bible say whatever we
> want it to say. Example: Jesus was gay.
>
> John 19:26-28, Jesus is described as seeing his mother and an
> unidentified man: "the disciple standing by, whom he loved."
>
> During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the authors of the
> Gospel of John describe how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on
> Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment.

Everything about Hitler's agenda was concealed behind a wall of German
Nationalism. Germans had a strong belief in "natural order" or
Darwinian selectivity, which Hitler used to paint Jews as being
genetically inferior, and thereby it became "God's will" to eliminate
this race.
Obviosly, anyone who adheres to Biblical precepts knows that the
"natural" order is fallen and broken system. Anyone who understands
true Biblical salvation understands that it was given to the Jew FIRST,
then all the nations and races. Bonhoffer and the Confessing Church
leaders were some of the very first people attacked by brownshirts,
many of them were imprisoned or expulsed. This had to happen first
before Hitler could sell his conterfeit theology to the ignorant
masses. As you may know, Bonhoffer was executed by Hitler's SS at the
end of the war for his attempt to assassinate Hitler.

The scriptures are written in a way that those who are unstable und
unlearned will wrestle (or twist) them to their own destruction. II
Peter 3: 16. You might say that they have a built in bastard trap,
designed to spin every impure heart around, and thereby conceal the
salvation of God to those who are impure. As Jesus said, "Having ears,
they shall listen but not understand, and having eyes the shall gaze
but not perceive.Luke 8; 10-18. (the parable of the sower.) Jesus asked
the Pharisees why it was that they could not HEAR or understand His
speech? It was becuase they were not His sheep, and of their father the
Devil. John 8;42.

Hitler's attempt to hide as a wolf in Sheep's clothing never fooled
anyone who understood scripture as Divine authority. But what the
Chriatians in Germany did not realize, was how far off Hitler's Nazi
Party would go, and that it would cost the lives of 42 million Germans.

Now, that being said. Do you suppose that George W. Bush might be a
wolf in sheep's clothing too? hmmm Let's see. Jesus said, you shall
judge them by their fruit.

1..George Bush was behind the false flag events of 911. Take a good
look at World Trade Center 7's destruction and keep trying to convince
yourself that the building came down in 6.6 seconds due to a fire. Then
you, like me, will admit you are in denial. The Bush administration,
not Bin Laden, destroyed the WTC on 9/11.

2. Hurrican Katriana. Visit Bill Keonig's website and read his book
"Eye to Eye" that deatils the natural events that have hit the US
everytime we enact the "roadmap to peace" agenda that moves the borders
of Israel. It's happened 48 times from the Perfect Storm of 1991 in the
Bush senior Administration, through Clinton, and finally the removal of
Jews in Gaza, (which has turned out to be a disaster already and seeded
the ground for the Hezbollah war.)
Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, And Wilma followed right after. Katrina
formed the day after the last Jewish settlement was evicted. If you
want to bet against me, (48 out of 48) I'll take your odds, if you
don't think it will happen again. But a third party will hold your
money until I do.

3. Immigration and SPP. Bush's plan to join the US, Mexico and Canada
in one big happy North American country, with a new Amero as our
currency.

4 The Warren Authorization Bill, passed just recently that allows the
President powers over local governments when the President decides it
time to delare martial law. A clear violation of the US Constitution
and the Posse Comitatus act.

5. New Torture rules. For every one! These are just a few things.

See what I mean? How many Christians, like in Germany, question our
flag-waving spirit of Nationalism when it comes to the Reichstag Fire
event in our country---911. Bush is a total traitor to the Constitution
and people he swore and Oath to defend.

Bush is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Just like Hitler was. How many
Christian leaders are willing to admit it? Just like in Germany, the
world is going to rub our noses in it becuase of our arrogance.

David W. Barnes

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In article <1162181458.9...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
Truth PLEASE! <comm...@hiv-aids-factorfraud.com> wrote:

Proof?

>
> 2. Hurrican Katriana. Visit Bill Keonig's website and read his book
> "Eye to Eye" that deatils the natural events that have hit the US
> everytime we enact the "roadmap to peace" agenda that moves the borders
> of Israel. It's happened 48 times from the Perfect Storm of 1991 in the
> Bush senior Administration, through Clinton, and finally the removal of
> Jews in Gaza, (which has turned out to be a disaster already and seeded
> the ground for the Hezbollah war.)
> Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, And Wilma followed right after. Katrina
> formed the day after the last Jewish settlement was evicted. If you
> want to bet against me, (48 out of 48) I'll take your odds, if you
> don't think it will happen again. But a third party will hold your
> money until I do.

And I though #1 was wild and crazy...

>
> 3. Immigration and SPP. Bush's plan to join the US, Mexico and Canada
> in one big happy North American country, with a new Amero as our
> currency.

Bush doesn't have that kind of ambition.

>
> 4 The Warren Authorization Bill, passed just recently that allows the
> President powers over local governments when the President decides it
> time to delare martial law. A clear violation of the US Constitution
> and the Posse Comitatus act.

Agreed.

>
> 5. New Torture rules. For every one! These are just a few things.

Agreed.

>
> See what I mean? How many Christians, like in Germany, question our
> flag-waving spirit of Nationalism when it comes to the Reichstag Fire
> event in our country---911. Bush is a total traitor to the Constitution
> and people he swore and Oath to defend.

Agreed.

>
> Bush is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Just like Hitler was. How many
> Christian leaders are willing to admit it? Just like in Germany, the
> world is going to rub our noses in it becuase of our arrogance.

Agreed. But it is unrelated to religion, other than Bush is a Right
Wing Christian loon.

Ray Fischer

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Malcolm <regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> <swa...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>>>If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
>>
>> God save us from those who would tell us the "correct" interpretation
>> of His words.
>>
>Either you dismiss the Bible as uninterpretable, or you try to interpret.

Or you tell other people what you want the Bible to mean.

>Some interpretations, like Hitler's interpretation of Jesus as a fighter
>against the Jew, we can quite easily dismiss.

Or the Pope's self-serving and anti-woman interpretations.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

H Dickmann

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"Kate " <cob...@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:45844ad0....@news-west.newscene.com...

Even John Calvin came from a Catholic Family.
All it means is that even Catholics can come under the devils influence and
become idiots.


BAM

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"Kate " <cob...@newscene.com> wrote in message
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Why? Because you say so? Why not call him an elephant or a Martian then?

BAM


BAM

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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:esiak2hi58k0oaokg...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:37:08 -0500, "BAM"
> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
>><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>
>>> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
>>> he's a "Mulsim", right?
>>
>>You're a dum-dum.
>
> You're a Christian pedophile enabler.

I must be the first one then, because I've never heard of one. What is it?

BAM


panam...@hotmail.com

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No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
things faster than you.

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at
last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for
the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years,
with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in
the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the
Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but
I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there
is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to
my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men
standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I
believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for
them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn
against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and
exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

National Socialism has always affirmed that it is determined to take
the Christian Churches under the protection of the State.... The
decisive factor which can justify the existence alike of Church and
State is the maintenance of men's spiritual and bodily health, for it
that health were destroyed it would mean the end of the State and also
the end of the Church.... It is my sincere hope that thereby for
Germany, too, through free agreement there has been produced a final
clarification of spheres in the functions of the State and of one
Church.
-Adolf Hitler, on a wireless on 22 July, the evening before the
Evangelical Church Election

We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We
have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and
that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it
out.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933

The National Socialist Movement has wrought this miracle. If Almighty
God granted success to this work, then the Party was His instrument.
-Adolf Hitler, in his proclamation to the German People on 01 Jan. 1939


Christianity, while not the source of National Socialism in Germany,
certainly embraced it heartily.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 30 Oct 2006 15:54:20 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Kla...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:

I say let them drink Kool-Aid!

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:54 -0500, "BAM"
<mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
>news:esiak2hi58k0oaokg...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:37:08 -0500, "BAM"
>> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
>>><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
>>>> he's a "Mulsim", right?
>>>
>>>You're a dum-dum.
>>
>> You're a Christian pedophile enabler.
>
>I must be the first one then, because I've never heard of one. What is it?

LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
abetted pedophiles?

BAM

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<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Why? Because you say so?
>
> No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
> and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
> things faster than you.

So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.
Now you take those pandering quotes about Hitler saying he's a Christian and
compare them to the ones below, and tell me, which sounds like the real
Hitler:

'It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy
Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and
blood.'"

"Antiquity was better than modern times, because it didn't know Christianity
and syphilis."

Historian Paul Johnson wrote that Hitler hated Christianity with a passion,
adding that shortly after assuming power in 1933, Hitler told Hermann
Rauschnig that he intended "to stamp out Christianity root and branch."

"I'll make these damned parsons feel the power of the state in a way they
would have never believed possible. For the moment, I am just keeping my eye
upon them: if I ever have the slightest suspicion that they are getting
dangerous, I will shoot the lot of them. This filthy reptile raises its head
whenever there is a sign of weakness in the State, and therefore it must be
stamped on. We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews."

The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity
... The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the
world by Christianity.
[Quoted from Hitler's "Table Talks" with Bormann,
in "Hitler: A Study in Tyranny" by Allan Bullock.]

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of
Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are
inventions of the Jew."

BAM

BAM

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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:9ugbk2588e5l3akuv...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:23:54 -0500, "BAM"
> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
>><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
>>news:esiak2hi58k0oaokg...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:37:08 -0500, "BAM"
>>> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
>>>><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
>>>>> he's a "Mulsim", right?
>>>>
>>>>You're a dum-dum.
>>>
>>> You're a Christian pedophile enabler.
>>
>>I must be the first one then, because I've never heard of one. What is it?
>
> LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
> abetted pedophiles?

Ooooh "infrastructure"! Big word for you yingyang.

BAM


--sexkitten--

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BAM wrote:
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
>>>Why? Because you say so?
>>
>>No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
>>and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
>>things faster than you.
>
>
> So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
> this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.

Thus making him an excellent Catholic. Proof positive for Yang. :)


--
--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:02:54 -0500, "BAM"
<mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:


>> LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
>> abetted pedophiles?
>
>Ooooh "infrastructure"! Big word for you yingyang.

Oooo, Catholic Pedophile "BAM" Resorts to ethnic slurs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Freethinkers_League

The first of such organisations to be founded in that country, the
German Freethinkers League had by 1930 a membership numbering around
500,000. The League was closed down, however, in the Spring of 1933
when Hitler OUTLAWED all ATHEISTIC and freethinking groups in Germany.
'Freethinkers Hall', the national headquarters of the League, was then
converted to a bureau advising to the public in church matters.

panam...@hotmail.com

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BAM wrote:
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> >> Why? Because you say so?
> >
> > No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
> > and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
> > things faster than you.
>
> So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
> this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.
> Now you take those pandering quotes about Hitler saying he's a Christian and
> compare them to the ones below, and tell me, which sounds like the real
> Hitler:
>
> 'It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy
> Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and
> blood.'"
>
> "Antiquity was better than modern times, because it didn't know Christianity
> and syphilis."

All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.

And you've once again forgotten his private notes:
http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-letters-notes-Werner-Maser/dp/0060128321

Ask me again whom I believe *after* you've done some homework.

> Historian Paul Johnson wrote that Hitler hated Christianity with a passion,
> adding that shortly after assuming power in 1933, Hitler told Hermann
> Rauschnig that he intended "to stamp out Christianity root and branch."

This Paul Johnson?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1248249/posts

Yeah, no agenda there..<rolling eyes> Thicker than thieves, you
theists. Oh, except for the ones that embarrass you, of course.

snip

panam...@hotmail.com

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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:02:54 -0500, "BAM"
> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> >> LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
> >> abetted pedophiles?
> >
> >Ooooh "infrastructure"! Big word for you yingyang.
>
>
> Oooo, Catholic Pedophile "BAM" Resorts to ethnic slurs.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Freethinkers_League
>
> The first of such organisations to be founded in that country, the
> German Freethinkers League had by 1930 a membership numbering around
> 500,000. The League was closed down, however, in the Spring of 1933
> when Hitler OUTLAWED all ATHEISTIC and freethinking groups in Germany.
> 'Freethinkers Hall', the national headquarters of the League, was then
> converted to a bureau advising to the public in church matters.

Don't confuse the boy with facts, Yang. You'll cause him to froth to
death in his own foam. You know that xians must be *roasted*. They're
poisonous if you just stew them in their own juices.

-PF, Atl.
#2015/KoBAAWA!

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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Oct 30, 2006, 5:48:47 AM10/30/06
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On 30 Oct 2006 02:45:07 -0800, panam...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:02:54 -0500, "BAM"
>> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
>> >> abetted pedophiles?
>> >
>> >Ooooh "infrastructure"! Big word for you yingyang.
>>
>>
>> Oooo, Catholic Pedophile "BAM" Resorts to ethnic slurs.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Freethinkers_League
>>
>> The first of such organisations to be founded in that country, the
>> German Freethinkers League had by 1930 a membership numbering around
>> 500,000. The League was closed down, however, in the Spring of 1933
>> when Hitler OUTLAWED all ATHEISTIC and freethinking groups in Germany.
>> 'Freethinkers Hall', the national headquarters of the League, was then
>> converted to a bureau advising to the public in church matters.
>
>Don't confuse the boy with facts, Yang. You'll cause him to froth to
>death in his own foam. You know that xians must be *roasted*. They're
>poisonous if you just stew them in their own juices.

LOL! Watching Bryan stewing in his own stupidity does amuse me in some
respects.

*nemo*

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Oct 30, 2006, 6:06:39 AM10/30/06
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In article <1162151035.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

>
> Darius wrote:
> > http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
> >
> > Catholic Church Nazi photos
> >
> > compiled by Jim Walker
> > created: 20 May 1998
> > additions: 13 May 2006
> >
> <snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.
>
>
> Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
> does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.

You know what? We all get it. I can't imagine what atom of difference
his religion makes to us today. Shut the fuck up about it already.

--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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Quotemeister since March 2002

BAM

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"--sexkitten--" <jumpingbe...@hotmail.com> wrote

>> So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
>> this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a
>> liar.
>
> Thus making him an excellent Catholic. Proof positive for Yang. :)

Have any intelligent thoughts today alleycat?

BAM


BAM

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<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote

> All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
> that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
> attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
> anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
> from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.

You don't know what you're talking about. You're a fool. You'll believe
anything that supports your desires.

BAM


BAM

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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:91mbk29pl5g6ns2dj...@4ax.com...

> On 30 Oct 2006 02:45:07 -0800, panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:02:54 -0500, "BAM"
>>> <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >> LOL! You mean like the entire Catholic Infrastructure that aided and
>>> >> abetted pedophiles?
>>> >
>>> >Ooooh "infrastructure"! Big word for you yingyang.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oooo, Catholic Pedophile "BAM" Resorts to ethnic slurs.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Freethinkers_League
>>>
>>> The first of such organisations to be founded in that country, the
>>> German Freethinkers League had by 1930 a membership numbering around
>>> 500,000. The League was closed down, however, in the Spring of 1933
>>> when Hitler OUTLAWED all ATHEISTIC and freethinking groups in Germany.
>>> 'Freethinkers Hall', the national headquarters of the League, was then
>>> converted to a bureau advising to the public in church matters.
>>
>>Don't confuse the boy with facts, Yang. You'll cause him to froth to
>>death in his own foam. You know that xians must be *roasted*. They're
>>poisonous if you just stew them in their own juices.
>
> LOL! Watching Bryan stewing in his own stupidity does amuse me in some
> respects.

You guys should open a bullshit factory. You can be the machines.

BAM


--sexkitten--

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Lots. I'm still waiting for you to have your first, ever.

Ray Fischer

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BAM <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
><panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Why? Because you say so?
>>
>> No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
>> and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
>> things faster than you.
>
>So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
>this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.

That much can be said about you or, for that matter, the Pope.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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>> All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
>> that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
>> attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
>> anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
>> from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.
>
>You don't know what you're talking about. You're a fool.

whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matt 5:22

> You'll believe
>anything that supports your desires.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Luke 6:41

Why do you follow the Pope? Why have you turned away from Christ?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Kate

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:01:18 -0500, "BAM"
<mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

>
><panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Why? Because you say so?
>>
>> No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
>> and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
>> things faster than you.
>
>So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
>this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.

How does that make him any different than any other Christian leader?

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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You guys should open a child molester factory... oh wait, you already
do.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 30 Oct 2006 14:29:13 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>BAM <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
>><panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
>>> that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
>>> attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
>>> anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
>>> from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.
>>
>>You don't know what you're talking about. You're a fool.
>
> whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
> Matt 5:22

LOL! The irony of Catholic theology.

Molest a kid? say some prayer and you'er in good standing with Gawd,
saying nothing naughty? Off to hell with you!

>> You'll believe
>>anything that supports your desires.
>
> And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
> perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
> Luke 6:41
>
>Why do you follow the Pope? Why have you turned away from Christ?

BOB

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"BAM" <mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in
news:B3k1h.10137$Bs....@bignews8.bellsouth.net:

>
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Why? Because you say so?
>>
>> No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
>> and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
>> things faster than you.
>
> So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will
> believe this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth.

But that's true of all religious kooks like you BUM.

> He was a liar.

Again much like you and the other religious kooks, BUM.


> Now you take those pandering quotes about Hitler saying
> he's a Christian and compare them to the ones below, and tell me,
> which sounds like the real Hitler:
>

You do, BUM.

<snip>

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:06:11 -0800, --sexkitten--
<jumpingbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>BAM wrote:
>> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>
>>>>Why? Because you say so?
>>>
>>>No, because Hitler said so. Damn, Bryan..you've been shown this again
>>>and again. Are you really this stupid? I've had dogs that could learn
>>>things faster than you.
>>
>>
>> So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
>> this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.
>
>Thus making him an excellent Catholic. Proof positive for Yang. :)

LOL!

-----

Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:1sgbk29tvkij61q4a...@4ax.com:

>>Actually the bible says that believers will not be harmed by drinking
>>any deadly thing. I wonder how many would be willing to put this to the
>>test?
>
> I say let them drink Kool-Aid!

Now that is cruel!

Klazmon

Michael Gray

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 04:17:54 GMT, "Insomnia Boy"
<levia...@bigpond.com> wrote:
- Refer: <S1f1h.55613$rP1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>"Michael Gray" <fle...@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
>news:okoak21bv460m071t...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:41:09 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> - Refer: <9ueak2la8fmq2gj0i...@4ax.com>

>>>On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
>>>>Occult,
>>>
>>> You have read nothing but Jew propaganda. They control your media.
>>>
>> :
>>
>> Gladys gets all of her "information" from the Watchtower.
>> She is quite the most bigoted unthinking cretin that I have
>> encountered on usenet.
>> She can't actually lie about anything, because she doesn't understand
>> anything.
>
>Isn't "Gladys" the idiot that worships a god she made up herself? You know,
>err, "Talula" or something, if I remember correctly . . . Or was that a
>different troll by the same name? Just curious.

I don't know.
I have not been able to get any sort of coherent response from her in
the 6 or 7 years worth of attempts.
I don't think that she knows, either.

--

Michael Gray

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:25:59 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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>On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:06:23 -0900, "Dana" <raf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:9ueak2la8fmq2gj0i...@4ax.com...

>>> On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >As far as I have read on this topic, Hitler was more influenced by the
>>> >Occult,
>>>
>>> You have read nothing but Jew propaganda. They control your media.
>>
>>All we need for people like you, is a length of rope.
>>Your hate is out of control and you are a danger to others.
>>You and your type are like a cancer to society, and need to be eradicated.
>
>But medically and legally. We don't kill the insane now, we just make
>sure that they can't escape.

Or elect them as President.

--

Truth PLEASE!

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> >
> >So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
> >this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a liar.
>

We have spent several pages talking about the past, and what Hitler
believed. But I don't think there is much argument about the fact that
he was brutally insane, if not demonic.He used religion to flatter the
weak of mind, and it worked, just like is is doing today!

Then point is, what did we learn from it all? I hope we learned that
these nationalistic dictators will use any common belief and twist it
to perpetuate their agenda. GW Bush flattered his base of GOP Christian
leaders exactly the way Hitler did, and the saps went along with it,
despite being warned by their own prophets to stay away from the
Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Rockefeller-funded cultists. (GH
Bush Sr. was chairman of the CFR) These people, including W. Bush are
satanists, with a New World Order agenda for a One World government
with them in control of total power--- and us as slaves.

So what do we do when we realize that George W. Bush was behind the 911
attacks, and that his international elitist conspiracy (yes, that's
right, I used the "C" word), has lied to us about just about
everything? Let's look at the lies! 9/11..(look at WTC 7, a 47 story
building that fell in 6.6 seconds, and was NOT hit by an airplane)
HIV=AID$ check out this site:
http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com.
You will see 10 reasons why HIV can NOT Possibly the cause of AIDS, and
why the toxic DNA chain terminating drugs like AZT cause AIDS by
prescription. (now they want to feed this to poor African pregnant
women).
Look at the fixation and addiction we have with foreign oil. Look at
the way the price at the pump changes with politcal events. How many
people would be prepared for the winter, or could survive if they shut
off ALL the energy we are forced to buy form Rockefeller, and have for
over 100 years! If you dont' think they are planning a North American
superstate, search SPP + Cancun + Bush and see how far it has already
progressed.

So what do we do? I know, my brave and discerning fellow Americans!
Let's vote in a
DEMOCRAT!!!!
Sure...Like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, BOTH members of the the
Trilatteral Commission. You guessed it! IT"S THE SAME PEOPLE!!! Even
Ross Perot is a member of the CFR / Trilatteral Commission / IMF- World
Bank/ Club of Rome / Illuminatti / Bilderberg Banking association.
Bohemian Grove perverts. The only candidate that is worth supporting
should publicly denounce these parasites, and call for their
prosecution to the FULL extent of the law! They violated their oath to
the Constitution. They are the vilest of traitors.

When will we ever learn? We are voting ourselves into slavery, and
there is no way to vote ourselves out. And that, my friends, is exactly
what HItler did to the German people.
Was Hitler a Christian?..oh.sure, and so was Judas Iscariot. Even Cain
was religious.

Topaz

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One of the points on the National Socialist party platform was that
the party was for positive Christianity. This is what it said:

"The party as such, stands for positive Christianity but does not
bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession."

Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

" But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest
antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged-the nation, because it
was held to be an invention of the 'capitalist' class (how often I had
heard that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an
instrument in the hands of the bourgeosie for the exploitation of the
working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of
holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the
people, so as to exploit them afterward; morality, as a badge of
stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag
in the mud.
"At first I remained silent; but that could not last very long."

"And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with
the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I
am defending the handiwork of the Lord."

"Was not the Press instrumental in bringing in a state of moral
degradation among our people? Were not morals and public decency made
to look ridiculous and classed as out-of-date and banal, until finally
our people also became modernized?"

"It must be noted too that the attack on the dogmatic
principles underlying ecclesiastical teaching increased steadily in
violence. And yet this human world of ours would be inconceivable
without the practical existence of a religious belief. The great
masses of a nation are not composed of philosophers. For the masses of
the people especially, faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral
outlook on life."

"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God"

"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Of religion he (the Jew) makes a mockery. Morality and decency
are described as anti-quated prejudices"

"Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and
Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts content,
while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up
his sleeve."

"the Jew trafficked in the freedom of the nation and sold our
country to the masters of international high finance. So in our day he
has succeeded again, this time by raising ructions between the two
German religious denominations while the foundations on which both
rest are being eaten away and destroyed through the poison injected by
the international and cosmopolitan Jew."

"The most devoted Protestant could stand side by side with the
most devoted Catholic in our ranks"

"The National Socialist Movement must see to it that at least in
our own country the mortal enemy is recognized and that the fight
against him may be a beacon light pointing to a new and better period
for other nations as well as showing the way of salvation for Aryan
humanity in the struggle for its existance."


Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:

"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:

1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.

4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.

5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.

"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.

"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."


Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party (quoted from
John Cornwell's "Hitler's Pope"
"The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany
means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the
Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and
unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is
hostile to religion is a lie."


Adolf Hitler, speaking in the Reichstag on 30 Jan. 1934
" Imbued with the desire to secure for the German people the great
religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian
Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but
strengthened the religious institutions."

Adolf Hitler, in his speech at Koblenz, to the Germans of the Saar, 26
Aug. 1934
"National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it
anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real
Christianity.... For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours
alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of
to-day, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic
movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness
of a community in our national life... These are not anti-Christian,
these are Christian principles! And I believe that if we should fail
to follow these principles then we should to be able to point to our
successes, for the result of our political battle is surely not
unblest by God."

Adolf Hitler, to Nazi leaders on 2 June 1937, as reported by a
correspondent of the "Daily Telegraph"
"We National Socialists, too, have deep in our hearts our own faith.
We cannot do otherwise. No man can mould the history of peoples or of
the world unless he has upon his will and his capacities the blessing
of Providence."

Adolf Hitler, speaking of the Winter Help Campaign on 5 Oct. 1937
This Winter Help Work is also in the deepest sense a Christian work.
When I see, as I so often do, poorly clad girls collecting with such
infinite patience in order to care for those who are suffering from
the cold while they themselves are shivering with cold, then I have
the feeling that they are all apostles of a Christianity-- and in
truth of a Christianity which can say with greater right than any
other: This is the Christianity of an honest confession, for behind it
stand not words but deeds.

Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept. 1938.
National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it
is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship....
We will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for
exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.
Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any
case something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our
programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception
and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the
central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the
maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by
God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a
divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship,
but openly before the face of the Lord....
Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for
that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is
the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so
far as they are known to us men.

Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the "Old Guard" at Munich on 24 Feb.
1939
If positive Christianity means love of one's neighbour, i.e. the
tending of the sick, the clothing of the poor, the feeding of the
hungry, the giving of drink to those who are thirsty, then it is we
who are the more positive Christians. For in these spheres the
community of the people of National Socialist Germany has accomplished
a prodigious work.


VOELKISCHER BEOBACHTER, 24 March 1933, Page 1

[Hitler's Speech at second meeting of the Reichstag of 1933, on
23 March 1933, asking for the adoption of the Enabling Act.]

"While the Government is determined to carry through the political and
moral purging of our public life, it is creating and insuring
prerequisites for a truly religious life. The Government sees in both
Christian confessions the most important factors for the maintenance
of our
folkdom. It will respect agreements concluded between them and the
States.
However, it respects that its work will meet with a similar
appreciation.
The Government will treat all other denominations with equal
objective justice.
It can never condone, though, that belonging to a certain
denomination
or to a certain race might be regarded as a license to commit or
tolerate
crimes. The Government will devote its care to the sincere living
together
of Church and State."

Hitler said in a speech in Berlin on March 23, 1933 "The Reich
government sees in Christianity the unshakable foundation of the
ethics and morality of the folk."

In a speech delivered April 12, 1922, Hitler said:

"For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I
look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at
the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and
misery. "When I go out in the morning and see these men


standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I

believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity


for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn

against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and
exploited."

http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/

Topaz

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Here are quotes from a speech delivered by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
at the National Socialist Party Congress, Nuernberg, 1937.

"'Spain represents the world at the cross-roads.' Thus wrote
the Bolshevic press organ, Die Rundschau, in its issue dated July 22,
1937. That one sentance precisely defines the international
significance of the Spanish problem. It states exactly what the
Spanish problem is. Here the final decision must lie either with
Bolshevism or the principle of Authority. On the one side stands
ruinous anarchy and, on the other, orderly constructive development."

"Nations which in recent years have kept their eyes closed to
the startling growth of the international Bolshevic menace will one
day experience a terrible awakening from this moral narcosis. The fact
that we, German National Socialists, as conscious and uncompromising
protaganists against the Bolshevic world-front, are still condemned to
play the part of a preacher in the wilderness, calling out to deaf
ears--this cannot prevent us from seeing things as they are and
calling them by their right names. For if the constantly increasing
extension of this Bolshevic infection in Europe should cause still
greater disaster, then future historians will be in a position to
record the fact that we, German National Socialists, were not among
those who allowed themselves to be led astray in the universal chaos
of thought and mental fog purposely created as a sort of smoke-screen
by an insidious epidemic of political propaganda. Nothing could make
us deviate in the least from the straight road we have taken.
"From the very nature of the case it is obvious that the
subversive forces of International Jewry will raise a tumult of rage
when we clearly and dispassionately lay bare the background of this
revolutionary developement which is extending through the world. For,
after all, they are the only people who are drawing profit forn the
chaotic ruin which Bolshevism is bringing upon mankind. That on this
account they will swamp us with a torrrent of abuse and lies and
calumnies is only an honour for us and a further proof that we are
right in warning Europe against this peril."

"The fight which General Franco is waging, with the support of all
the constructive elements, against the Bolshevic menace to his native
land is at the same time a fight for civilization."

"The Moscow Comintern never tires of impressing on public
opinion thoughout the world the theory that the national movement,
which on July 17, 1936, intervened in the seething developements in
Spain, was a military rising oragnised by reactionary generals and
that this rising was definately repudiated by the Spanish people. The
truth however is that this national movement was in reality an act of
self-defence on the part of the people, against the revolt which had
been planned by the Spanish Communist Party for that time and was
subsequently postponed to August 1936. This communist revolt had been
planned in Moscow several years previously, organized from Moscow and
directed from Moscow, and is still being carried out in practice from
Moscow today."

"In 1935 the annual funds which Moscow contributed for the
support of the Communist Party in Spain totalled several million
pesetas, of which two millions were officially acknowledged as having
been paid by the Comintern itself. At the 7th World Congress of the
Comintern in Moscow, in 1935, Dimitroff gave instructions for the
formation of a Front Populaire in Spain. Between February 16 and April
19,1936, 140 people were murdered by gangs of red revolutionaries, and
529 buildings were burned down and destroyed before the Bolshevic
Revolution officially broke out."

"We can account for this baffling style of mutual admiration
between Bolshevism and Western Liberalist Intellectualism only if we
assume it to be some form of mental disease."

"During February and March 101 Russian Soviet aeroplanes were shipped
from Reval to Spain. And on March 1st, 50 heavy guns from Soviet
Russia were brought overland to Almansa. Recently one single large
consignment of was material from Soviet Russia to the Reds in Spain
included 100 heavy tanks, 500 medium-sized tanks, 2000 light tanks,
4000 heavy machine guns, 6000 light machine guns and 300 aeroplanes,
with their pilots."

"I shall now deal with some instances which will help to give an
idea of the extent to which World Liberalism goes in its moral support
of the Reds in Spain. I have already emphasized the fact that the
marriage between Bolshevism and Democracy presents some uncanny
features; indeed one might call them downright perverse. In the
historical developement of its activities Democracy has more and more
become the political facade of World Capitalism. Bolshevism now
carries the democratic principle to its ultimate logical application.
We may call it the Democracy of Terror. It increases the pace of that
sanguinary and pitiless developement of which Liberalism had already
mapped out the path. I might illustrate this point by a rather drastic
comparison. In democracy leading heads were out-voted by the counting
of heads. In Bolshevism the same result is obtained by chopping off
heads with the guillotine. The result in both cases is the same. The
heads are wanting. The masses are robbed of their natural leaders and
left prey to international Jews, who are now free to exercise their
dictatorship by the employment of terrorization and money."

"Pleasing catchwords were used to win the favour of the
workers but when the communist leaders came into power social terror
became the rule of the day. Among the workers and peasant classes
hunger prevailed, as symbol and sign of the Bolshevic rule."

"In keeping with the Soviet Russian pettern, family life and
the instituton of marriage are being ruined by this world plague.
Degradation of married women, the socialization of women, the
martyrdom of children--these are the principles which are in vogue
here."

"According to the 'Daily Mail' of August 22, 1936, Twenty-eight
nuns from the convent of Santa Clara "were subjected to inconceivable
tortures by relays of red maniacs."

"But Bolshevism in practice is nothing better than the most
frightful find of barbarism. It is the outward expression of the
hatred of the underworld agianst all those who are representative of
Western civilization and a cultural level to which Bolshevism can
never hope to attain."

"Among the 20,000 churches and monasteries which the Reds have
plundered and destroyed many were of historical and architectual
significance which cannot be replaced."

"But the churches of the world remain passive to it all and do not
seem to have the least suspicion as to the deadly menace that
threatens them. This is where Bolshevism shows itself again as the
incarnation of evil. Its destructive influence on the popular
religious instinct goes to the very roots of that instinct itself. And
this ruthless atheistic campaign spares nothing whatsoever which might
serve to remind the people of God and religion. The one fact alone
that the Fuerer has saved the German churches from this fate should be
enough to make them feel bound to remain eternally thankful to him.
But instead of this they never tire of going beyond the sphere of
their religious duties, interfering in political matters and making
their influence felt in a way that has no connection whatsoever with
their duties or their divine calling."

"According to indisputable figures based exclusively on
Bolshevic statistics, 42,000 priests have been murdered in Russia. Up
to February 2,1937, approximately 17,000 priests and monks and eleven
bishops were murdered in Spain."

"A Swedish refugee stated, on November 10, 1936: 'I have seen
churches on the walls of which the murdered bodies of women were hung,
nuns that had been beheaded or burned and whose bodies had been nailed
in rows to the church walls."

"The Strassburg paper, 'Der Elsasser', in its issue of
February 27, 1937 published the staggering fact that '50,000 Spanish
children are at the present moment wandering through Spanish
provinces, abandoned and in rags. All public activities for the
welfare of the youth have been abolished. And so the youngsters, very
often no more than four or five years old, are left no alternative.
They stagger along the road in swarms, shivering with cold and are
nothing more than wandering skeletons.'"

"One shudders to think what might happen to humanity if this
system became universal throughout the world."

"Bolshevism and its 'friendly press' throughout the world lose no
opportunity of pointing an accusing finger at the alleged use of
terror in countries which are governed according to the principles of
authority. The whole world gives a cry of agonizing sympathy when, for
example, a Jew in Germany receives a well-earned box on the ears. But
what is this when compared with the terror that disrupts whole
nations"

"Lenin himself, when asked at the 12th Congress of the Red Party,
what were the principles on which Communism relied, answered: 'Murder,
destruction, not a stone to be left in place if its removal should be
to the advantage of the Revolution.'"

"The Jewish Soviet Ambassador in London finds it convenient to
express his moral indignation before the Non-Intervention Committee in
London. The world and the League of Nations are hypocritically
appealed to. Before these tribunals the Jew Litwinow-Finkelstein plays
the part of the civilised philistine and fills Europe with cries of
protest."

"The Intenational Brigades which are sent into action on the Red
Spanish front are commanded by Soviet officers. Their commander was
the Jew, General Kleber."

"We shall not be deterred from pointing to the Jew as the inspirer,
the instigator and the beneficiary of the dreadful catastrophe."

"At Barcelona he sits, in the person of Wladimer Bischitzki as
director of the international oragnization for the smuggling of arms
and munitions, comrades Lurje and Fuchs, of his own racial breed,
sitting by his side. His Paris agents are his racial compatriots,
Fratkin, Rosenfeld and Schapiro. At Hirtenberg in Austria their
collaborator is the Jew, Mandl. In Amsterdam the Jew, Wolf. In
Rotteerdam the Jews, Cohen, Gruenfeld, Kirsch, and Simon. In Denmark
the Jew, Moses Israel Diamant. In Prague the Jews, Kindler, Kahn,
Abter and Hithner. We know them all and we know them well."

"The fact that Western Liberalism closes its eyes to this evil
portent is only a sign of its almost childish naivety."

"A struggle for native land and liberty, for honour and family
and God and religion, for wife and child, for school and upbringing,
for order, moral principle, culture and civilization, for our lives
and our daily bread , has begun. In Germany it has already been
brought to a triumphant issue."

Topaz

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:23:41 -0000, "Malcolm"
<regn...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>

>Hitler:
>> ..National Socialism is not a cult-movement - a movement for worship;


>> it is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
>> principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
>> leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship.
>>

>The fact he needed to say that shows that the occult charge was being made,
>and was taken seriously.

Here are some quotes from the book "Kampfzeit", (period of
struggle), by Hans Hinkel:

"Faster than lightening a lie about us spread throughout the country,
spread in every attic room where poor people lived by newspapers owned
or obedient to the opponent. It took a week of work by us National
Socialists to deal with a three-line lie in an opposing newspaper. As
soon as one lie was dealt with, a hundred more sprang up. Like a
hydra, the opponent's horror stories about National Socialism and its
supporters spread. There was not a speech by the Führer or his
associates that was not immediately twisted and tastefully served up
to the gullible Michael at breakfast or dinner. Adolf Hitler had "spat
out the communion wafer." Hermann Göring was smuggling opium or
morphine. Robert Ley has "lost a 'v'" in his name Pastor Münchmeyer
was guilty of "moral crimes" in Borkum. We often would have laughed
had we not hourly learned the amazing gullibility of millions of
German citizens who were trapped in the enemy's web of lies. The only
answer was for everyone to set to work with the people, going
everywhere to fight, speak and educate. Sooner or later the opponent
would have to face us and be revealed as a liar to the public."
"The city was like an upset anthill on that cold winter night. Roland
Freisler ran out from the chattering council meeting and went with us
to the nearby Friedrich Square where we spoke with the starving
masses. We forgot the middle class niceties! We had to stop Moscow
from winning over these citizens driven crazy by hunger, making them
wiling subjects of the insane ideas of Bolshevism"
"Only a few weeks later, I needed an escort to leave or return to my
apartment. Several loyal S.A. men had to be with me all the time,
since Communist unemployed men, unscrupulously incited against us
National Socialists, wanted to attack me now that they knew who I was.
Every day I joined the unemployed who demonstrated in the large
courtyard of the labor office on Giesberg Street. More than once I had
to be met by party members at the Kassel train station to protect me
from lurking Communist terror troops. It was the same or worse for all
of our prominent Kassel party members and S.A. men, just as for the
storm troops of our movement who risked their lives every day and
every hour in every city and every village of Germany. The enemy
naturally was particularly after us speakers. According to the law, we
had to be unarmed. We would have been in deep trouble if a body search
had found a weapon! A nail file was thought to be a weapon. Later even
a party badge, since it had a long needle!"
"The attempts of our party comrades to hold a National Socialist
meeting failed a half dozen times or more. Most meetings were made
impossible by the thousand-fold numerical superiority of the opponent,
or else broken up before they could finish. Our protective service
-every party member in each local group belongs - is still too weak in
most areas to stand up against the red avalanche, driven more and more
by the Communists. One National Socialist against five hundred or even
a thousand citizens, that is how it always is there!"
"After I had spoken about twenty minutes, a worker jumped up on a
table and called upon the "comrades" to leave the meeting of the
"Fascist band." Several dozen start singing the "Internationale" and
we have no choice but to overpower the growling of the comrades with
"Deutschland, Deutschland über alles." Another several hundred leave
the hall. The singing quieted down and peace was slowly restored. I
spoke to several hundred people at the end, all that were left of the
more than a thousand who were there to start."
"For years now we speakers have been traveling through every Gau in
Germany. I speak primarily in Saxony, Brandenburg, Hessen-Nassau and
in the West. We see that even red Saxony is streaming more and more to
National Socialism. The meetings are difficult, but always
successful."
"For how long? When would this hard battle end? When would more
Germans wake up? When would hundreds of thousands finally be ready to
march into battle behind the banner of National Socialism?! - None of
us thinks about the "when." Forward! - Only forward! Each heart won
over is a victory! The day will come...!"

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By Walter Ruthard

I myself was brought up in a small village in the southwest of
Germany. In 1939, when the war broke out, we left for the less exposed
Odenwald area until the possible danger of a French invasion had
passed. Shortly after that my father was transferred to the Ruhr
region. He as requested work as a foreman for the Mauser arms factory.
The government, true to their claims to be national and socialist,
took their promises seriously and provided young people starting a
family, as well as those who already had children, with affordable
housing. The first child brought a reduction of the mortgage by 25
percent, and when the fourth child arrived the mortgage was no more.
My parents already had four children then and thus were eligible for a
free newly built house from the government.

This was but one of the many programs the government established in
order to improve the quality of life for its citizens…

Then there was the "Kinderlandverschickung" program. It was started
before the war and enabled mothers in need of recreation to spend some
time in rural settings together with their children…

Another very popular social program of the government was "Fraft
durch Freude" (strength through joy). Here deserving workers could
take all-inclusive tours on luxury liners that were built especially
for this purpose. On these ships there was only one class and
everybody was treated the same. They visited the Azores and
Spitsbergen among other places. Those ships were not allowed to dock
in and English port however. The reason was that the British
government did not want it's citizens to see what it also could have
done for them…

The most misinterpreted program in Germany was the so-called
"Lebensborn". It was the exact opposite of what people are made to
believe it was, or should I say, of what people like to believe… The
Lebensborn was the institution to help unwed mothers who did not know
where to turn for help. They were taken care of during their
pregnancies and afterward as well. This was the Lebensborn, and any
other interpretation is plain hogwash…

My father was able to buy not one but three guns plus two pistols,
together with plenty of ammunition. All it took him was proof that he
was indeed a German citizen without a criminal record. Then in 1945,
when the French "liberated" us, they disarmed him. I know that he was
not the only one to have guns at home, because I saw the many, many
arms that were handed over to the French, and this was in a very small
village…

Then, after the war was over, we had our first experience with a real
democracy. The French introduced it and gave us some shining examples;
one was that the lived off the country and stole everything which
wasn't nailed down…

It was not until many years later that I learned that Hitler held at
least five plebiscites during the first half of his rule. In
democratic Germany, from 1945 until today there has never been a
plebiscite.

There were foreign workers employed in Germany during WWII. I knew
one of them. He worked on a farm and was treated exactly like the son
who was in the army. After the war he stayed on and married the
daughter of the house. He was a prisoner of war from Poland and I
never saw him guarded by any policeman. This is how foreigners were
treated in Germany. They earned the same wages as the Germans, they
took part in the social insurance program, had paid-for holidays
including free train fares, and many came back with friends who also
wanted to work for these "horrible" Germans. Today they are called
slave laborer.

Not everyone was entitled to go on to a university. Only good marks
and above-average performance in schools qualified. But good
performers were promoted with all means available. Today we are much
more democratic; everyone is entitled to a university education and if
the parents are wealthy enough, the son or daughter can study until
they are 35…

Germany was also the country to introduce, in 1933, the first-ever
comprehensive animal protection law. Farm animals had to be kept in
strictly natural environments and no animal factories were allowed. Of
course, no testing of products on animals was permitted, and no kosher
slaughter.

If new industrial facilities were built they had to conform to the
highest standards with adequate lighting and air inside, canteens
where the workers were served nutritious meals at affordable prices,
and beautiful lawns outside: all for the benefit of the workers…In
national socialist Germany, no child labor was allowed as it still was
in other European countries.


And finally, although I could still go on for a while, I would like to
mention that on express orders from Hitler himself, it was strictly
forbidden to use corporal punishment in the army. He was of the
opinion that in was incompatible with the honor of a German to be
punished by such degrading means.

That was the Germany I grew up in, and I am glad that I did.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:07:10 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting Ass" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


>And justly so. Where did Hitler's anti-semitism come from? It
>certainly weren't from the atheists.
>
Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the
moment I discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in
literature and the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or
less futile. One needed only to look at the posters announcing the
hideous productions of the cinema and theatre, and study the names of
the authors who were highly lauded there in order to become
permanently adamant on Jewish questions. Here was a pestilence, a
moral pestilence, with which the public was being infected. It was
worse that the Black Plague of long ago. And in what mighty doses
this poison was manufactured and distributed. Naturally, the
lower the moral and intellectual level of such an author of artistic
products the more inexhaustible his fecundity. Sometimes it went so
far that one of these fellows, acting like a sewage pump, would shoot
his filth directly in the face of other members of the human race. In
this connection
we must remember there is no limit to the number of such people. One
ought to realize that for one Goethe, Nature may bring into existence
ten thousand such despoilers who act as the worst kind of
germ-carriers in poisoning human souls. It was a terrible thought,
and yet it could not be
avoided, that the greater number of the Jews seemed specially
destined by Nature to play this shameful part.

"And is it for this reason that they can be called the chosen
people? "I began then to investigate carefully the names of all the
fabricators of these unclean products in public cultural life. The
result of that inquiry was still more disfavourable to the attitude
which I had hitherto held in regard to the Jews. Though my feelings
might rebel a thousand times, reason now had to draw its own
conclusions. "The fact that nine-tenths of all the smutty literature,
artistic tripe and theatrical banalities, had to be charged to the
account of people who formed scarcely one per cent of the nation-
that fact could not be gainsaid. It was there, and had to be
admitted. Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with
that fact before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser
grew my respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style
became still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as
entirely shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation
of facts and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain
more falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.

"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand
things which I had formerly looked at in a different light."

"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried
to read articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but
in doing so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about
learning something of the people who wrote and published this
mischievous stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were
Jews. I recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism,
and then I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race-
the Social Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well
as the secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators.
Everywhere the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never
forget the row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and
others. One fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien
race held in its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party
with whose minor representatives I had been disputing for months
past."

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During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>

An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote>

The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
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Leon Degrelle
"We have the power. Now our gigantic work begins."
Those were Hitler's words on the night of January 30, 1933, as
cheering crowds surged past him, for five long hours, beneath the
windows of the Chancellery in Berlin.
His political struggle had lasted 14 years. He himself was 43, that
is, physically and intellectually at the peak of his powers. He had
won over millions of Germans and organized them into Germany's largest
and most dynamic political party, a party girded by a human rampart of
hundreds of thousands of storm troopers, three fourths of them members
of the working class. He had been extremely shrewd. All but toying
with his adversaries, Hitler had, one after another, vanquished them
all.
Standing there at the window, his arm raised to the delirious throng,
he must have known a feeling of triumph. But he seemed almost torpid,
absorbed, as if lost in another world.
It was a world far removed from the delirium in the street, a world of
65 million citizens who loved him or hated him, but all of whom, from
that night on, had become his responsibility. And as he knew -- as
almost all Germans knew on January 1933 -- that this was a crushing,
an almost desperate responsibility.
Half a century later, few people understand the crisis Germany faced
at that time. Today, it's easy to assume that Germans have always been
well-fed and even plump. But the Germans Hitler inherited were virtual
skeletons.
During the preceding years, a score of "democratic" governments had
come and gone, often in utter confusion. Instead of alleviating the
people's misery, they had increased it, due to their own instability:
it was impossible for them to pursue any given plan for more than a
year or two. Germany had arrived at a dead end. In just a few years
there had been 224,000 suicides - a horrifying figure, bespeaking a
state of misery even more horrifying.
By the beginning of 1933, the misery of the German people was
virtually universal. At least six million unemployed and hungry
workers roamed aimlessly through the streets, receiving a pitiful
unemployment benefit of less than 42 marks per month. Many of those
out of work had families to feed, so that altogether some 20 million
Germans, a third of the country's population, were reduced to trying
to survive on about 40 pfennigs per person per day.
Unemployment benefits, moreover, were limited to a period of six
months. After that came only the meager misery allowance dispensed by
the welfare offices.
Notwithstanding the gross inadequacy of this assistance, by trying to
save the six million unemployed from total destruction, even for just
six months, both the state and local branches of the German government
saw themselves brought to ruin: in 1932 alone such aid had swallowed
up four billion marks, 57 percent of the total tax revenues of the
federal government and the regional states. A good many German
municipalities were bankrupt.
Those still lucky enough to have some kind of job were not much better
off. Workers and employees had taken a cut of 25 percent in their
wages and salaries. Twenty-one percent of them were earning between
100 and 250 marks per month; 69.2 percent of them, in January of 1933,
were being paid less than 1,200 marks annually. No more than about
100,000 Germans, it was estimated, were able to live without financial
worries.
During the three years before Hitler came to power, total earnings had
fallen by more than half, from 23 billion marks to 11 billion. The
average per capita income had dropped from 1,187 marks in 1929 to 627
marks, a scarcely tolerable level, in 1932. By January 1933, when
Hitler took office, 90 percent of the German people were destitute.
No one escaped the strangling effects of the unemployment. The
intellectuals were hit as hard as the working class. Of the 135,000
university graduates, 60 percent were without jobs. Only a tiny
minority was receiving unemployment benefits.
"The others," wrote one foreign observer, Marcel Laloire (in his book
New Germany), "are dependent on their parents or are sleeping in
flophouses. In the daytime they can be seen on the boulevards of
Berlin wearing signs on their backs to the effect that they will
accept any kind of work."
But there was no longer any kind of work.
The same drastic fall-off had hit Germany's cottage industry, which
comprised some four million workers. Its turnover had declined 55
percent, with total sales plunging from 22 billion to 10 billion
marks.
Hardest hit of all were construction workers; 90 percent of them were
unemployed.
Farmers, too, had been ruined, crushed by losses amounting to 12
billion marks. Many had been forced to mortgage their homes and their
land. In 1932 just the interest on the loans they had incurred due to
the crash was equivalent to 20 percent of the value of the
agricultural production of the entire country. Those who were no
longer able to meet the interest payments saw their farms auctioned
off in legal proceedings: in the years 1931-1932, 17,157 farms -- with
a combined total area of 462,485 hectares - were liquidated in this
way.
The "democracy" of Germany's "Weimar Republic" (1918 -1933) had proven
utterly ineffective in addressing such flagrant wrongs as this
impoverishment of millions of farm workers, even though they were the
nation's most stable and hardest working citizens. Plundered,
dispossessed, abandoned: small wonder they heeded Hitler's call.
Their situation on January 30, 1933, was tragic. Like the rest of
Germany's working class, they had been betrayed by their political
leaders, reduced to the alternatives of miserable wages, paltry and
uncertain benefit payments, or the outright humiliation of begging.
Germany's industries, once renowned everywhere in the world, were no
longer prosperous, despite the millions of marks in gratuities that
the financial magnates felt obliged to pour into the coffers of the
parties in power before each election in order to secure their
cooperation. For 14 years the well-blinkered conservatives and
Christian democrats of the political center had been feeding at the
trough just as greedily as their adversaries of the left…
One inevitable consequence of this ever-increasing misery and
uncertainty about the future was an abrupt decline in the birthrate.
When your household savings are wiped out, and when you fear even
greater calamities in the days ahead, you do not risk adding to the
number of your dependents.
In those days the birth rate was a reliable barometer of a country's
prosperity. A child is a joy, unless you have nothing but a crust of
bread to put in its little hand. And that's just the way it was with
hundreds of thousands of German families in 1932…
Hitler knew that he would be starting from zero. From less than zero.
But he was also confident of his strength of will to create Germany
anew -- politically, socially, financially, and economically. Now
legally and officially in power, he was sure that he could quickly
convert that cipher into a Germany more powerful than ever before.
What support did he have?
For one thing, he could count on the absolute support of millions of
fanatical disciples. And on that January evening, they joyfully shared
in the great thrill of victory. Some thirteen million Germans, many of
them former Socialists and Communists, had voted for his party.
But millions of Germans were still his adversaries, disconcerted
adversaries, to be sure, whom their own political parties had
betrayed, but who had still not been won over to National Socialism.
The two sides -- those for and those against Hitler -- were very
nearly equal in numbers. But whereas those on the left were divided
among themselves, Hitler's disciples were strongly united. And in one
thing above all, the National Socialists had an incomparable
advantage: in their convictions and in their total faith in a leader.
Their highly organized and well-disciplined party had contented with
the worst kind of obstacles, and had overcome them…
In the eyes of the capitalists, money was the sole active element in
the flourishing of a country's economy. To Hitler's way of thinking,
that conception was radically wrong: capital, on the contrary, was
only an instrument. Work was the essential element: man's endeavor,
man's honor, blood, muscles and soul.
Hitler wanted not just to put an to the class struggle, but to
reestablish the priority of the human being, in justice and respect,
as the principal factor in production…
For the worker's trust in the fatherland to be restored, he had to
feel that from now on he was to be (and to be treated) as an equal,
instead of remaining a social inferior. Under the governments of the
so-called democratic parties of both the left and the right, he had
remained an inferior; for none of them had understood that in the
hierarchy of national values, work is the very essence of life; …
The objective, then, was far greater than merely getting six million
unemployed back to work. It was to achieve a total revolution.
"The people," Hitler declared, "were not put here on earth for the
sake of the economy, and the economy doesn't exist for the sake of
capital. On the contrary, capital is meant to serve the economy, and
the economy in turn to serve the people."
It would not be enough merely to reopen the thousands of closed
factories and fill them with workers. If the old concepts still ruled,
the workers would once again be nothing more than living machines,
faceless and interchangeable…
Nowhere in twentieth-century Europe had the authority of a head of
state ever been based on such overwhelming and freely given national
consent. Prior to Hitler, from 1919 to 1932, those governments piously
styling themselves democratic had usually come to power by meager
majorities, sometimes as low as 51 or 52 percent.
"I am not a dictator," Hitler had often affirmed, "and I never will
be. Democracy will be rigorously enforced by National Socialism."
Authority does not mean tyranny. A tyrant is someone who puts himself
in power without the will of the people or against the will of the
people. A democrat is placed in power by the people. But democracy is
not limited to a single formula. It may be partisan or parliamentary.
Or it may be authoritarian. The important thing is that the people
have wished it, chosen it, established it in its given form.
That was the case with Hitler. He came to power in an essentially
democratic way. Whether one likes it or not, this fact is undeniable.
And after coming to power, his popular support measurably increased
from year to year. The more intelligent and honest of his enemies have
been obliged to admit this, men such as the declared anti-Nazi
historian and professor Joachim Fest, who wrote:
For Hitler was never interested in establishing a mere tyranny. Sheer
greed for power will not suffice as explanation for his personality
and energy -- He was not born to be a mere tyrant. He was fixated upon
his mission of defending Europe and the Aryan race ... Never had he
felt so dependent upon the masses as he did at this time, and he
watched their reactions with anxious concern.
These lines weren't written by Dr. Goebbels, but by a stern critic of
Hitler and his career…
When it came time to vote, Hitler was granted plenary powers with a
sweeping majority of 441 votes to 94: he had won not just two thirds,
but 82.44 percent of the assembly's votes. This "Enabling Act" granted
Hitler for four years virtually absolute authority over the
legislative as well as the executive affairs of the government…
After 1945 the explanation that was routinely offered for all this was
that the Germans had lost their heads. Whatever the case, it is a
historical fact that they acted of their own free will. Far from being
resigned, they were enthusiastic. "For the first time since the last
days of the monarchy," historian Joachim Fest has conceded, "the
majority of the Germans now had the feeling that they could identify
with the state."…
"You talk about persecution!" he thundered in an impromptu response to
an address by the Social Democratic speaker. "I think that there are
only a few of us [in our party] here who did not have to suffer
persecutions in prison from your side ... You seem to have totally
forgotten that for years our shirts were ripped off our backs because
you did not like the color . . . We have outgrown your persecutions!"
"In those days," he scathingly continued, "our newspapers were banned
and banned and again banned, our meetings were forbidden, and we were
forbidden to speak, I was forbidden to speak, for years on. And now
you say that criticism is salutary!"…
Hitler's millions of followers had rediscovered the primal strength of
rough, uncitified man, of a time when men still had backbone…
Gustav Noske, the lumberjack who became defense minister - and the
most valiant defender of the embattled republic in the tumultuous
months immediately following the collapse of 1918 - acknowledged
honestly in 1944, when the Third Reich was already rapidly breaking
down, that the great majority of the German people still remained true
to Hitler because of the social renewal he had brought to the working
class…
Here again, well before the collapse of party-ridden Weimar Republic,
disillusion with the unions had become widespread among the working
masses. They were starving. The hundreds of Socialist and Communist
deputies stood idly by, impotent to provide any meaningful help to the
desperate proletariat.
Their leaders had no proposals to remedy, even partially, the great
distress of the people; no plans for large-scale public works, no
industrial restructuring, no search for markets abroad.
Moreover, they offered no energetic resistance to the pillaging by
foreign countries of the Reich's last financial resources: this a
consequence of the Treaty of Versailles that the German Socialists had
voted to ratify in June of 1919, and which they had never since had
the courage effectively to oppose…
In 1930, 1931 and 1932, German workers had watched the disaster grow:
the number of unemployed rose from two million to three, to four, to
five, then to six million. At the same time, unemployment benefits
fell lower and lower, finally to disappear completely. Everywhere one
saw dejection and privation: emaciated mothers, children wasting away
in sordid lodgings, and thousands of beggars in long sad lines.
The failure, or incapacity, of the leftist leaders to act, not to
mention their insensitivity, had stupefied the working class. Of what
use were such leaders with their empty heads and empty hearts -- and,
often enough, full pockets?
Well before January 30, thousands of workers had already joined up
with Hitler's dynamic formations, which were always hard at it where
they were most needed. Many joined the National Socialists when they
went on strike. Hitler, himself a former worker and a plain man like
themselves, was determined to eliminate unemployment root and branch.
He wanted not merely to defend the laborer's right to work, but to
make his calling one of honor, to insure him respect and to integrate
him fully into a living community of all the Germans, who had been
divided class against class.
In January 1933, Hitler's victorious troops were already largely
proletarian in character, including numerous hardfisted street
brawlers, many unemployed, who no longer counted economically or
socially.
Meanwhile, membership in the Marxist labor unions had fallen off
enormously: among thirteen million socialist and Communist voters in
1932, no more than five million were union members. Indifference and
discouragement had reached such levels that many members no longer
paid their union dues. Many increasingly dispirited Marxist leaders
began to wonder if perhaps the millions of deserters were the ones who
saw things clearly. Soon they wouldn't wonder any longer.
Even before Hitler won Reichstag backing for his "Enabling Act,"
Germany's giant labor union federation, the ADGB, had begun to rally
to the National Socialist cause. As historian Joachim Fest
acknowledged: "On March 20, the labor federation's executive committee
addressed a kind of declaration of loyalty to Hitler." (J. Fest,
Hitler, p. 413.)
Hitler than took a bold and clever step. The unions had always
clamored to have the First of May recognized as a worker's holiday,
but the Weimar Republic had never acceded to their request. Hitler,
never missing an opportunity, grasped this one with both hands. He did
more than grant this reasonable demand: he proclaimed the First of May
a national holiday…
I myself attended the memorable meeting at the Tempelhof field in
1933. By nine o'clock that morning, giant columns, some of workers,
others of youth groups, marching in cadence down the pavement of
Berlin's great avenues, had started off towards the airfield to which
Hitler had called together all Germans. All Germany would follow the
rally as it was transmitted nationwide by radio…
In the dark, a group of determined opponents could easily have heckled
Hitler or otherwise sabotaged the meeting. Perhaps a third of the
onlookers had been Socialists or Communists only three months
previously. But not a single hostile voice was raised during the
entire ceremony. There was only universal acclamation.
Ceremony is the right word for it. It was an almost magical rite.
Hitler and Goebbels had no equals in the arranging of dedicatory
ceremonies of this sort. First there were popular songs, then great
Wagnerian hymns to grip the audience. Germany has a passion for
orchestral music, and Wagner taps the deepest and most secret vein of
the German soul, its romanticism, its inborn sense of the powerful and
the grand.
Meanwhile the hundreds of flags floated above the rostrum, redeemed
from the darkness by arrows of light.
Now Hitler strode to the rostrum. For those standing at the of the
field, his face must have appeared vanishingly small, but his words
flooded instantaneously across the acres of people in his audience.
A Latin audience would have preferred a voice less harsh, more
delicately expressive. But there was no doubt that Hitler spoke to the
psyche of the German people.
Germans have rarely had the good fortune to experience the enchantment
of the spoken word. In Germany, the tone has always been set by
ponderous speakers, more fond of elephantine pedantry than oratorical
passion. Hitler, as a speaker, was a prodigy, the greatest orator of
his century. He possessed, above all, what the ordinary speaker lacks:
a mysterious ability to project power.
A bit like a medium or sorcerer, he was seized, even transfixed, as he
addressed a crowd. It responded to Hitler's projection of power,
radiating it back, establishing, in the course of myriad exchanges, a
current that both orator and audience gave to and drew from equally.
One had to personally experience him speaking to understand this
phenomenon.
This special gift is what lay at the basis of Hitler's ability to win
over the masses. His high-voltage, lightning-like projection
transported and transformed all who experienced it. Tens of millions
were enlightened, riveted and inflamed by the fire of his anger,
irony, and passion.
By the time the cheering died away that May first evening, hundreds of
thousands of previously indifferent or even hostile workers who had
come to Tempelhof at the urging of their labor federation leaders were
now won over. They had become followers, like the SA stormtroopers
whom so many there that evening had brawled with in recent years.
The great human sea surged back from Tempelhof to Berlin. A million
and a half people had arrived in perfect order, and their departure
was just as orderly. No bottlenecks halted the cars and busses. For
those of us who witnessed it, this rigorous, yet joyful, discipline of
a contented people was in itself a source of wonder. Everything about
the May Day mass meeting had come off as smoothly clockwork.
The memory of that fabulous crowd thronging back to the center of
Berlin will never leave me. A great many were on foot. Their faces
were now different faces, as though they had been imbued with a
strange and totally new spirit. The non-Germans in the crowd were as
if stunned, and no less impressed than Hitler's fellow countrymen.
The French ambassador, André François-Poncet, noted:
The foreigners on the speaker's platform as guests of honor were not
alone in carrying away the impression of a truly beautiful and
wonderful public festival, an impression that was created by the
regime's genius for organization, by the night time display of
uniforms, by the play of lights, the rhythm of the music, by the flags
and the colorful fireworks; and they were not alone in thinking that a
breath of reconciliation and unity was passing over the Third Reich.
"It is our wish," Hitler had exclaimed, as though taking heaven as his
witness, "to get along together and to struggle together as brothers,
so that at the hour when we shall come before God, we might say to
him: 'See, Lord, we have changed. The German people are no longer a
people ashamed, a people mean and cowardly and divided. No, Lord! The
German people have become strong in their spirit, in their will, in
their perseverance, in their acceptance of any sacrifice. Lord, we
remain faithful to Thee! Bless our struggle!" (A. François-Poncet,
Souvenirs d'une ambassade à Berlin, p. 128.)
Who else could have made such an incantatory appeal without making
himself look ridiculous?
No politician had ever spoken of the rights of workers with such faith
and such force, or had laid out in such clear terms the social plan he
pledged to carry out on behalf of the common people.
The next day, the newspaper of the proletarian left, the "Union
Journal," reported on this mass meeting at which at least two thirds
-- a million -- of those attending were workers. "This May First was
victory day," the paper summed up.
With the workers thus won over, what further need was there for the
thousands of labor union locals that for so long had poisoned the
social life of the Reich and which, in any case, had accomplished
nothing of a lasting, positive nature?
Within hours of the conclusion of that "victory" meeting at the
Tempelhof field, the National Socialists were able to peacefully take
complete control of Germany's entire labor union organization,
including all its buildings, enterprises and banks. An era of Marxist
obstruction abruptly came to an end : from now on, a single national
organization would embody the collective will and interests of all of
Germany's workers.
Although he was now well on his way to creating what he pledged would
be a true "government of the people," Hitler also realized that great
obstacles remained. For one thing, the Communist rulers in Moscow had
not dropped their guard -- or their guns. Restoring the nation would
take more than words and promises, it would take solid achievements.
Only then would the enthusiasm shown by the working class at the May
First mass meeting be an expression of lasting victory.
How could Hitler solve the great problem that had defied solution by
everyone else (both in Germany and abroad): putting millions of
unemployed back to work?
What would Hitler do about wages? Working hours? Leisure time?
Housing? How would he succeed in winning, at long last, respect for
the rights and dignity of the worker?
How could men's lives be improved -- materially, morally, and, one
might even say, spiritually? How would he proceed to build a new
society fit for human beings, free of the inertia, injustices and
prejudices of the past?
"National Socialism," Hitler had declared at the outset, "has its
mission and its hour; it is not just a passing movement but a phase of
history."
The instruments of real power now in his hands -- an authoritarian
state, its provinces subordinate but nonetheless organic parts of the
national whole -- Hitler had acted quickly to shake himself free of
the last constraints of the impotent sectarian political parties.
Moreover, he was now able to direct a cohesive labor force that was no
longer split into a thousand rivulets but flowed as a single, mighty
current.
Hitler was self-confident, sure of the power of his own conviction. He
had no intention, or need, to resort to the use of physical force.
Instead, he intended to win over, one by one, the millions of Germans
who were still his adversaries, and even those who still hated him.
His conquest of Germany had taken years of careful planning and hard
work. Similarly, he would now realize his carefully worked out plans
for transforming the state and society. This meant not merely changes
in administrative or governmental structures, but far-reaching social
programs.
He had once vowed: "The hour will come when the 15 million people who
now hate us will be solidly behind us and will acclaim with us the new
revival we shall create together." Eventually he would succeed in
winning over even many of his most refractory skeptics and
adversaries.
His army of converts was already forming ranks. In a remarkable
tribute, historian Joachim Fest felt obliged to acknowledge
unequivocally:
Hitler had moved rapidly from the status of a demagogue to that of a
respected statesman. The craving to join the ranks of the victors was
spreading like an epidemic, and the shrunken minority of those who
resisted the urge were being visibly pushed into isolation -- The past
was dead. The future, it seemed, belonged to the regime, which had
more and more followers, which was being hailed everywhere and
suddenly had sound reasons on its side.
And even the prominent leftist writer Kurt Tucholsky, sensing the
direction of the inexorable tide that was sweeping Germany, vividly
commented: "You don't go railing against the ocean." (J. Fest, Hitler,
pp. 415 f.)
"Our power," Hitler was now able to declare, "no longer belongs to any
territorial fraction of the Reich, nor to any single class of the
nation, but to the people in its totality."
Much still remained to be done, however. So far, Hitler had succeeded
in clearing the way of obstacles to his program. Now the time to build
had arrived.
So many others had failed to tackle the many daunting problems that
were now his responsibility. Above all, the nation demanded a solution
to the great problem of unemployment. Could Hitler now succeed where
others had so dismally failed?…
Unemployment could be combated and eliminated only by giving industry
the financial means to start up anew, to modernize, thus creating
millions of new jobs.
The normal rate of consumption would not be restored, let alone
increased, unless one first raised the starvation-level allowances
that were making purchases of any kind a virtual impossibility. On the
contrary, production and sales would have to be restored before the
six million unemployed could once again become purchasers.
The great economic depression could be overcome only by restimulating
industry, by bringing industry into step with the times, and by
promoting the development of new products…
Nearly ten years earlier, while in his prison cell, Hitler had already
envisioned a formidable system of national highways. He had also
conceived of a small, easily affordable automobile (later known as the
"Volkswagen"), and had even suggested its outline. It should have the
shape of a June bug, he proposed. Nature itself suggested the car's
aerodynamic line.
Until Hitler came to power, a car was the privilege of the rich. It
was not financially within the reach of the middle class, much less of
the worker. The "Volkswagen," costing one-tenth as much as the
standard automobile of earlier years, would eventually become a
popular work vehicle and a source of pleasure after work: a way to
unwind and get some fresh air, and of discovering, thanks to the new
Autobahn highway network, a magnificent country that then, in its
totality, was virtually unknown to the German worker.
From the beginning, Hitler wanted this economical new car to be built
for the millions. The production works would also become one of
Germany's most important industrial centers and employers.
During his imprisonment, Hitler had also drawn up plans for the
construction of popular housing developments and majestic public
buildings.
Some of Hitler's rough sketches still survive. They include groups of
individual worker's houses with their own gardens (which were to be
built in the hundreds of thousands), a plan for a covered stadium in
Berlin, and a vast congress hall, unlike any other in the world, that
would symbolize the grandeur of the National Socialist revolution.
"A building with a monumental dome," historian Werner Maser has
explained, "the plan of which he drew while he was writing Mein Kampf,
would have a span of 46 meters, a height of 220 meters, a diameter of
250 meters, and a capacity of 150 to 190 thousand people standing. The
interior of the building would have been 17 times larger than Saint
Peter's Cathedral in Rome." (W. Maser, Hitler, Adolf, p. 100.)
"That hall," architect Albert Speer has pointed out, "was not just an
idle dream impossible of achievement."
Hitler's imagination, therefore, had long been teeming with a number
of ambitious projects, many of which would eventually be realized.
Fortunately, the needed entrepreneurs, managers and technicians were
on hand. Hitler would not have to improvise.
Historian Werner Maser, although quite anti-Hitler -- like nearly all
of his colleagues (how else would they have found publishers?) - has
acknowledged: "From the beginning of his political career, he [Hitler]
took great pains systematically to arrange for whatever he was going
to need in order to carry out his plans."
"Hitler was distinguished," Maser has also noted, "by an exceptional
intelligence in technical matters." Hitler had acquired his knowledge
by devoting many thousands of hours to technical studies from the time
of his youth.
"Hitler read an endless number of books," explained Dr. Schacht. "He
acquired a very considerable amount of knowledge and made masterful
use of it in discussions and speeches. In certain respects he was a
man endowed with genius. He had ideas that no one else would ever have
thought of, ideas that resulted in the ending of great difficulties,
sometimes by measures of an astonishing simplicity or brutality."
Many billions of marks would be needed to begin the great
socioeconomic revolution that was destined, as Hitler had always
intended, to make Germany once again the European leader in industry
and commerce and, most urgently, to rapidly wipe out unemployment in
Germany. Where would the money be found? And, once obtained, how would
these funds be allotted to ensure maximum effectiveness in their
investment?
Hitler was by no means a dictator in matters of the economy. He was,
rather, a stimulator. His government would undertake to do only that
which private initiative could not.
Hitler believed in the importance of individual creative imagination
and dynamism, in the need for every person of superior ability and
skill to assume responsibility.
He also recognized the importance of the profit motive. Deprived of
the prospect of having his efforts rewarded, the person of ability
often refrains from running risks. The economic failure of Communism
has demonstrated this. In the absence of personal incentives and the
opportunity for real individual initiative, the Soviet "command
economy" lagged in all but a few fields, its industry years behind its
competitors.
State monopoly tolls the death of all initiative, and hence of all
progress.
For all men selflessly to pool their wealth might be marvelous, but it
is also contrary to human nature. Nearly every man desires that his
labor shall improve his own condition and that of his family, and
feels that his brain, creative imagination, and persistence well
deserve their reward.
Because it disregarded these basic psychological truths, Soviet
Communism, right to the end, wallowed in economic mediocrity, in spite
of its immense reservoir of manpower, its technical expertise, and its
abundant natural resources, all of which ought to have made it an
industrial and technological giant.
Hitler was always adverse to the idea of state management of the
economy. He believed in elites. "A single idea of genius," he used to
say, "has more value than a lifetime of conscientious labor in an
office."
Just as there are political or intellectual elites, so also is there
an industrial elite. A manufacturer of great ability should not be
restrained, hunted down by the internal revenue services like a
criminal, or be unappreciated by the public. On the contrary, it is
important for economic development that the industrialist be
encouraged morally and materially, as much as possible.
The most fruitful initiatives Hitler would take from 1933 on would be
on behalf of private enterprise. He would keep an eye on the quality
of their directors, to be sure, and would shunt aside incompetents,
quite a few of them at times, but he also supported the best ones,
those with the keenest minds, the most imaginative and bold, even if
their political opinions did not always agree with his own.
"There is no question," he stated very firmly, "of dismissing a
factory owner or director under the pretext that he is not a National
Socialist."
Hitler would exercise the same moderation, the same pragmatism, in the
administrative as well as in the industrial sphere.
What he demanded of his co-workers, above all, was competence and
effectiveness. The great majority of Third Reich functionaries - some
80 percent -- were never enrolled in the National Socialist party.
Several of Hitler's ministers, like Konstantin von Neurath and
Schwerin von Krosigk, and ambassadors to such key posts as Prague,
Vienna and Ankara, were not members of the party. But they were
capable…
"Herr Schacht," he said, "we are assuredly in agreement on one point:
no other single task facing the government at the moment can be so
truly urgent as conquering unemployment. That will take a lot of
money. Do you see any possibility of finding it apart from the
Reichsbank?" And after a moment, he added: "How much would it take? Do
you have any idea?"
Wishing to win Schacht over by appealing to his ambition, Hitler
smiled and then asked: "Would you be willing to once again assume
presidency of the Reichsbank?" Schacht let on that he had a
sentimental concern for Dr. Luther, and did not want to hurt the
incumbent's feelings. Playing along, Hitler reassured Schacht that he
would find an appropriate new job elsewhere for Luther.
Schacht then pricked up his ears, drew himself up, and focused his big
round eyes on Hitler: "Well, if that's the way it is," he said, "then
I am ready to assume the presidency of the Reichsbank again."
His great dream was being realized. Schacht had been president of the
Reichsbank between 1923 and 1930, but had been dismissed. Now he would
return in triumph. He felt vindicated. Within weeks, the ingenious
solution to Germany's pressing financial woes would burst forth from
his inventive brain.
"It was necessary," Schacht later explained, "to discover a method
that would avoid inflating the investment holdings of the Reichsbank
immoderately and consequently increasing the circulation of money
excessively."
"Therefore," he went on, "I had to find some means of getting the sums
that were lying idle in pockets and banks, without meaning for it to
be long term and without having it undergo the risk of depreciation.
That was the reasoning behind the Mefo bonds."
What were these "Mefo" bonds? Mefo was a contraction of the
Metallurgische Forschungs-GmbH (Metallurgic Research Company). With a
startup capitalization of one billion marks - which Hitler and Schacht
arranged to be provided by the four giant firms of Krupp, Siemens,
Deutsche Werke and Rheinmetall -- this company would eventually
promote many billions of marks worth of investment.
Enterprises, old and new, that filled government orders had only to
draw drafts on Mefo for the amounts due. These drafts, when presented
to the Reichsbank, were immediately convertible into cash. The success
of the Mefo program depended entirely on public acceptance of the Mefo
bonds. But the wily Schacht had planned well. Since Mefo bonds were
short-term bonds that could be cashed in at any time, there was no
real risk in buying, accepting or holding them. They bore an interest
of four percent -- a quite acceptable figure in those days -- whereas
banknotes hidden under the mattress earned nothing. The public quickly
took all this into consideration and eagerly accepted the bonds.
While the Reichsbank was able to offer from its own treasury a
relatively insignificant 150 million marks for Hitler's war on
unemployment, in just four years the German public subscribed more
than 12 billion marks worth of Mefo bonds!
These billions, the fruit of the combined imagination, ingenuity and
astuteness of Hitler and Schacht, swept away the temporizing and
fearful conservatism of the bankers. Over the next four years, this
enormous credit reserve would make miracles possible.
Soon after the initial billion-mark credit, Schacht added another
credit of 600 million in order to finance the start of Hitler's grand
program for highway construction. This Autobahn program provided
immediate work for 100,000 of the unemployed, and eventually assured
wages for some 500,000 workers.
As large as this outlay was, it was immediately offset by a
corresponding cutback in government unemployment benefits, and by the
additional tax revenue generated as a result of the increase in living
standard (sping) of the newly employed.
Within a few months, thanks to the credit created by the Mefo bonds,
private industry once again dared to assume risks and expand. Germans
returned to work by the hundreds of thousands.
Was Schacht solely responsible for this extraordinary turnaround?
After the war, he answered for himself as a Nuremberg Tribunal
defendant, where he was charged with having made possible the Reich's
economic revival:
I don't think Hitler was reduced to begging for my help. If I had not
served him, he would have found other methods, other means. He was not
a man to give up. It's easy enough for you to say, Mr. Prosecutor,
that I should have watched Hitler die and not lifted a finger. But the
entire working class would have died with him!
Even Marxists recognized Hitler's success, and their own failure. In
the June 1934 issue of the Zeitschrift für Sozialismus, the journal of
the German Social Democrats in exile, this acknowledgement appears:
Faced with the despair of proletarians reduced to joblessness, of
young people with diplomas and no future, of the middle classes of
merchants and artisans condemned to bankruptcy, and of farmers
terribly threatened by the collapse in agricultural prices, we all
failed. We weren't capable of offering the masses anything but
speeches about the glory of socialism.
VI. The Social Revolution
Hitler's tremendous social achievement in putting Germany's six
million unemployed back to work is seldom acknowledged today. Although
it was much more than a transitory achievement, "democratic"
historians routinely dismiss it in just a few lines. Since 1945, not a
single objective scholarly study has been devoted to this highly
significant, indeed unprecedented, historical phenomenon.
Similarly neglected is the body of sweeping reforms that dramatically
changed the condition of the worker in Germany. Factories were
transformed from gloomy caverns to spacious and healthy work centers,
with natural lighting, surrounded by gardens and playing fields.
Hundreds of thousands of attractive houses were built for working
class families. A policy of several weeks of paid vacation was
introduced, along with week and holiday trips by land and sea. A
wide-ranging program of physical and cultural education for young
workers was established, with the world's best system of technical
training. The Third Reich's social security and workers' health
insurance system was the world's most modern and complete.
This remarkable record of social achievement is routinely hushed up
today because it is embarrasses those who uphold the orthodox view of
the Third Reich. Otherwise, readers might begin to think that perhaps
Hitler was the greatest social builder of the twentieth century…
Nevertheless, restoring work and bread to millions of unemployed who
had been living in misery for years; restructuring industrial life;
conceiving and establishing an organization for the effective defense
and betterment of the nation's millions of wage earners; creating a
new bureaucracy and judicial system that guaranteed the civic rights
of each member of the national community, while simultaneously holding
each person to his or her responsibilities as a German citizen: this
organic body of reforms was part of a single, comprehensive plan,
which Hitler had conceived and worked out years earlier.
Without this plan, the nation would have collapsed into anarchy.
All-encompassing, this program included broad industrial recovery as
well as detailed attention to even construction of comfortable inns
along the new highway network.
It took several years for a stable social structure to emerge from the
French Revolution. The Soviets needed even more time: five years after
the Bolshevik revolution of 1917, hundreds of thousands of Russians
were still dying of hunger and disease. In Germany, by contrast, the
great machinery was in motion within months, with organization and
accomplishment quickly meshing together…
Hitler personally dug the first spadeful of earth for the first
Autobahn highway, linking Frankfurt-am-Main with Darmstadt. For the
occasion, he brought along Dr. Schacht, the man whose visionary credit
wizardry had made the project possible. The official procession moved
ahead, three cars abreast in front, then six across, spanning the
entire width of the autobahn…
Hitler's plan to build thousands of low-cost homes also demanded a
vast mobilization of manpower. He had envisioned housing that would be
attractive, cozy, and affordable for millions of ordinary German
working-class families. He had no intention of continuing to tolerate,
as his predecessors had, cramped, ugly "rabbit warren" housing for the
German people. The great barracks-like housing projects on the
outskirts of factory towns, packed with cramped families, disgusted
him.
The greater part of the houses he would build were single story,
detached dwellings, with small yards where children could romp, wives
could grow vegetable and flower gardens, while the bread-winners could
read their newspapers in peace after the day's work. These
single-family homes were built to conform to the architectural styles
of the various German regions, retaining as much as possible the
charming local variants.
Wherever there was no practical alternative to building large
apartment complexes, Hitler saw to it that the individual apartments
were spacious, airy and enhanced by surrounding lawns and gardens
where the children could play safely.
The new housing was, of course, built in conformity with the highest
standards of public health, a consideration notoriously neglected in
previous working-class projects.
Generous loans, amortizable in ten years, were granted to newly
married couples so they could buy their own homes. At the birth of
each child, a fourth of the debt was cancelled. Four children, at the
normal rate of a new arrival every two and a half years, sufficed to
cancel the entire loan debt.
Once, during a conversation with Hitler, I expressed my astonishment
at this policy. "But then, you never get back the total amount of your
loans?," I asked. "How so?" he replied, smiling. "Over a period of ten
years, a family with four children brings in much more than our loans,
through the taxes levied on a hundred different items of consumption."
As it happened, tax revenues increased every year, in proportion to
the rise in expenditures for Hitler's social programs. In just a few
years, revenue from taxes tripled. Hitler's Germany never experienced
a financial crisis.
To stimulate the moribund economy demanded the nerve, which Hitler
had, to invest money that the government didn't yet have, rather than
passively waiting -- in accordance with "sound" financial principles
-- for the economy to revive by itself.
Today, our whole era is dying economically because we have succumbed
to fearful hesitation. Enrichment follows investment, not the other
way around…
Even before the year 1933 had ended, Hitler had succeeded in building
202,119 housing units. Within four years he would provide the German
people with nearly a million and a half (1,458,128) new dwellings!
Moreover, workers would no longer be exploited as they had been. A
month's rent for a worker could not exceed 26 marks, or about an
eighth of the average wage then. Employees with more substantial
salaries paid monthly rents of up to 45 marks maximum.
Equally effective social measures were taken in behalf of farmers, who
had the lowest incomes. In 1933 alone 17,611 new farm houses were
built, each of them surrounded by a parcel of land one thousand square
meters in size. Within three years, Hitler would build 91,000 such
farmhouses…
Everywhere industry was hiring again, with some firms -- like Krupp,
IG Farben and the large automobile manufacturers -- taking on new
workers on a very large scale. As the country became more prosperous,
car sales increased by more than 80,000 units in 1933 alone.
Employment in the auto industry doubled. Germany was gearing up for
full production, with private industry leading the way.
The new government lavished every assistance on the private sector,
the chief factor in employment as well as production. Hitler almost
immediately made available 500 million marks in credits to private
business.
This start-up assistance given to German industry would repay itself
many times over. Soon enough, another two billion marks would be
loaned to the most enterprising companies. Nearly half would go into
new wages and salaries, saving the treasury an estimated three hundred
million marks in unemployment benefits. Added to the hundreds of
millions in tax receipts spurred by the business recovery, the state
quickly recovered its investment, and more.
Hitler's entire economic policy would be based on the following
equation: risk large sums to undertake great public works and to spur
the renewal and modernization of industry, then later recover the
billions invested through invisible and painless tax revenues. It
didn't take long for Germany to see the results of Hitler's recovery
formula.
Economic recovery, as important as it was, nevertheless wasn't
Hitler's only objective. As he strived to restore full employment,
Hitler never lost sight of his goal of creating a organization
powerful enough to stand up to capitalist owners and managers, who had
shown little concern for the health and welfare of the entire national
community.
Hitler would impose on everyone -- powerful boss and lowly wage earner
alike -- his own concept of the organic social community. Only the
loyal collaboration of everyone could assure the prosperity of all
classes and social groups.
Consistent with their doctrine, Germany's Marxist leaders had set
class against class, helping to bring the country to the brink of
economic collapse. Deserting their Marxist unions and political
parties in droves, most workers had come to realize that strikes and
grievances their leaders incited only crippled production, and thus
the workers as well.
By the of 1932, in any case, the discredited labor unions were
drowning in massive debt that realistically could never be repaid.
Some of the less scrupulous union officials, sensing the oncoming
catastrophe, had begun stealing hundreds of thousands of marks from
the workers they represented. The Marxist leaders had failed:
socially, financially and morally.
Every joint human activity requires a leader. The head of a factory or
business is also the person naturally responsible for it. He oversees
every aspect of production and work. In Hitler's Germany, the head of
a business had to be both a capable director and a person concerned
for the social justice and welfare of his employees. Under Hitler,
many owners and managers who had proven to be unjust, incompetent or
recalcitrant lost their jobs, or their businesses.
A considerable number of legal guarantees protected the worker against
any abuse of authority at the workplace. Their purpose was to insure
that the rights of workers were respected, and that workers were
treated as worthy collaborators, not just as animated tools. Each
industrialist was legally obliged to collaborate with worker delegates
in drafting shop regulations that were not imposed from above but
instead adapted to each business enterprise and its particular working
conditions. These regulations had to specify "the length of the
working day, the time and method of paying wages, and the safety
rules, and to be posted throughout the factory," within easy access of
both the worker whose interests might be angered and the owner or
manager whose orders might be subverted.
The thousands of different, individual versions of such regulations
served to create a healthy rivalry, with every factory group vying to
outdo the others in efficiency and justice.
One of the first reforms to benefit German workers was the
establishment of paid vacations. In France, the leftist Popular Front
government would noisily claim, in 1936, to have originated legally
mandated paid vacations -- and stingy ones at that, only one week per
year. But it was actually Hitler who first established them, in 1933
-- and they were two or three times more generous.
Under Hitler, every factory employee had the legal right to paid
vacation. Previously, paid vacations had not normally exceed four or
five days, and nearly half of the younger workers had no vacation time
at all. If anything, Hitler favored younger workers; the youngest
workers received more generous vacations. This was humane and made
sense: a young person has more need of rest and fresh air to develop
his maturing strength and vigor. Thus, they enjoyed a full 18 days of
paid vacation per year.
Today, more than half a century later, these figures have been
surpassed, but in 1933 they far exceeded European norms.
The standard vacation was twelve days. Then, from the age of 25 on, it
went up to 18 days. After ten years with the company, workers got a
still longer vacation: 21 days, or three times what the French
socialists would grant the workers of their country in 1936.
Hitler introduced the standard forty-hour work week in Europe. As for
overtime work, it was now compensated, as nowhere else in the
continent at the time, at an increased pay rate. And with the
eight-hour work day now the norm, overtime work became more readily
available.
In another innovation, work breaks were made longer: two hours each
day, allowing greater opportunity for workers to relax, and to make
use of the playing fields that large industries were now required to
provide.
Whereas a worker's right to job security had been virtually
non-existent, now an employee could no longer be dismissed at the sole
discretion of the employer. Hitler saw to it that workers' rights were
spelled out and enforced. Henceforth, an employer had to give four
weeks notice before firing an employee, who then had up to two months
to appeal the dismissal. Dismissals could also be annulled by the
"Courts of Social Honor" (Ehrengerichte).
This Court was one of three great institutions that were established
to protect German workers. The others were the "Labor Commissions" and
the "Council of Trust."
The "Council of Trust" (Vertrauensrat) was responsible for
establishing and developing a real spirit of community between
management and labor. "In every business enterprise," the 1934 "Labor
Charter" law stipulated, "the employer and head of the enterprise
(Führer), the employees and workers, personnel of the enterprise,
shall work jointly toward the goal of the enterprise and the common
good of the nation."
No longer would either be exploited by the other -- neither the worker
by arbitrary whim of the employer, nor the employer through the
blackmail of strikes for political ends.
Article 35 of the "Labor Charter" law stated: "Every member of an
enterprise community shall assume the responsibility required by his
position in said common enterprise." In short, each enterprise would
be headed by a dynamic executive, charged with a sense of the greater
community -- no longer a selfish capitalist with unconditional,
arbitrary power.
"The interest of the community may require that an incapable or
unworthy employer be relieved of his duties," the "Labor Charter"
stipulated. The employer was no longer unassailable, an all-powerful
boss with the last word on hiring and firing his staff. He, too, would
be subject to the workplace regulations, which he was now obliged to
respect no less than the least of his employees. The law conferred the
honor and responsibility of authority on the employer only insofar as
he merited it…
In the Third Reich, the worker knew that "exploitation of his physical
strength in bad faith or in violation of his honor" was no longer
tolerated. He had obligations to the community, but he shared these
obligations with every other member of the enterprise, from the chief
executive to the messenger boy. Finally, the German worker had clearly
defined social rights, which were arbitrated and enforced by
independent agencies. And while all this had been achieved in an
atmosphere of justice and moderation, it nevertheless constituted a
genuine social revolution…
Factories and shops, large and small, were altered or transformed to
conform to the strictest standards of cleanliness and hygiene:
interiors, so often dark and stifling, were opened up to light;
playing fields were constructed; rest areas where workers could unbend
during break, were set aside; employee cafeterias and respectable
locker rooms were opened. The larger industrial establishments, in
addition to providing the normally required conventional sports
facilities, were obliged to put in swimming pools!
In just three years, these achievements would reach unimagined
heights: more than two thousand factories refitted and beautified;
23,000 work premises modernized; 800 buildings designed exclusively
for meetings; 1,200 playing fields; 13,000 sanitary facilities; 17,000
cafeterias.
To assure the healthy development of the working class, physical
education courses were instituted for younger workers. Some 8,000 were
eventually organized. Technical training was equally emphasized.
Hundreds of work schools, and thousands of technical courses were
created. There were examinations for professional competence, and
competitions in which generous prizes were awarded to outstanding
masters of their craft.
Eight hundred departmental inspectors and 17,300 local inspectors were
employed to conscientiously monitor and promote these improvements.
To provide affordable vacations for German workers on a hitherto
unprecedented scale, Hitler established the "Strength through Joy"
program. As a result, hundreds of thousands of workers were now able
to make relaxing vacation trips on land and sea each summer.
Magnificent cruise ships were built, and special trains brought
vacationers to the mountains and the seashore. In just a few years,
Germany's working-class tourists would log a distance equivalent to 54
times the circumference of the earth! And thanks to generous state
subsidies, the cost to workers of these popular vacation excursions
was nearly insignificant…
Was Hitler's transformation of the lot of the working class
authoritarian? Without a doubt. And yet, for a people that had grown
sick and tired of anarchy, this new authoritarianism wasn't regarded
as an imposition. In fact, people have always accepted a strong man's
leadership.
In any case, there is no doubt that the attitude of the German working
class, which was still two-thirds non-Nazi at the start of 1933, soon
changed completely. As Belgian author Marcel Laloire noted at the
time:
When you make your way through the cities of Germany and go into the
working-class districts, go through the factories, the construction
yards, you are astonished to find so many workers on the job sporting
the Hitler insignia, to see so many flags with the swastika, black on
a bright red background, in the most densely populated districts.
Hitler's "German Labor Front" (Deutsche Arbeitsfront), which
incorporated all workers and employers, was for the most part eagerly
accepted. The steel spades of the sturdy young lads of the "National
Labor Service" (Reichsarbeitsdienst) could also be seen gleaming along
the highways.
Hitler created the National Labor Service not only to alleviate
unemployment, but to bring together, in absolute equality, and in the
same uniform, both the sons of millionaires and the sons of the
poorest families for several months' common labor and living.
All performed the same work, all were subject to the same discipline;
they enjoyed the same pleasures and benefited from the same physical
and moral development. At the same construction sites and in the same
barracks, Germans became conscious of what they had in common, grew to
understand one another, and discarded their old prejudices of class
and caste.
After a hitch in the National Labor Service, a young worker knew that
the rich man's son was not a pampered monster, while the young lad of
wealthy family knew that the worker's son had no less honor than a
nobleman or an heir to riches; they had lived and worked together as
comrades. Social hatred was vanishing, and a socially united people
was being born.
Hitler could go into factories -- something few men of the so-called
Right would have risked in the past -- and hold forth to crowds of
workers, at times in the thousands, as at the huge Siemens works. "In
contrast to the von Papens and other country gentlemen," he might tell
them, "in my youth I was a worker like you. And in my heart of hearts,
I have remained what I was then."
During his twelve years in power, no untoward incident ever occurred
at any factory he visited. Hitler was at home when he went among the
people, and he was received like a member of the family returning home
after making a success of himself.
But the Chancellor of the Third Reich wanted more than popular
approval. He wanted that approval to be freely, widely, and repeatedly
expressed by popular vote. No people was ever be more frequently asked
for their electoral opinion than the German people of that era -- five
times in five years.
For Hitler, it was not enough that the people voted from time to time,
as in the previous democratic system. In those days, voters were
rarely appealed to, and when they expressed an opinion, they were
often ill-informed and apathetic. After an election, years might go
by, during which the politicians were heedless and inaccessible, the
electorate powerless to vote on their actions.
To enable the German public to express its opinion on the occasion of
important events of social, national, or international significance,
Hitler provided the people a new means of approving or rejecting his
own actions as Chancellor: the plebiscite.
Hitler recognized the right of all the people, men and women alike, to
vote by secret ballot: to voice their opinion of his policies, or to
make a well-grounded judgment on this or that great decision in
domestic or foreign affairs. Rather than a formalistic routine,
democracy became a vital, active program of supervision that was
renewed annually.
The articles of the "Plebiscite Law" were brief and clear:
1. The Reich government may ask the people whether or not it
approves of a measure planned by or taken by the government. This may
also apply to a law.
2. A measure submitted to plebiscite will be considered as
established when it receives a simple majority of the votes. This will
apply as well to a law modifying the Constitution.
3. If the people approves the measure in question, it will be
applied in conformity with article III of the Law for Overcoming the
Distress of the People and the Reich.
The Reich Interior Ministry is authorized to take all legal and
administrative measures necessary to carry out this law.
Berlin, July 14, 1933.
Hitler, Frick…
From the first months of 1933, his accomplishments were public fact,
for all to see. Before end of the year, unemployment in Germany had
fallen from more than 6,000,000 to 3,374,000. Thus, 2,627,000 jobs had
been created since the previous February, when Hitler began his
"gigantic task!" A simple question: Who in Europe ever achieved
similar results in so short a time?…
In his detailed and critical biography of Hitler, Joachim Fest limited
his treatment of Hitler's extraordinary social achievements in 1933 to
a few paragraphs. All the same, Fest did not refrain from
acknowledging:
The regime insisted that it was not the rule of one social class above
all others, and by granting everyone opportunities to rise, it in fact
demonstrated class neutrality -- These measures did indeed break
through the old, petrified social structures. They tangibly improved
the material condition of much of the population. (J. Fest, Hitler,
pp. 434-435.)
Not without reason were the swastika banners waving proudly throughout
the working-class districts where, just a year ago, they had been
unceremoniously torn down.

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Here are some quotes from the account of the women's rally at the 1936
Nuremberg Rally, taken from the official party proceedings. The
speakers were Gertrud Scholz-Klink, the head of the Nazi women's
league, and Hitler himself, who outlines the Nazi view of the role of
women.
The enormous hall was filled two hours before the meeting began. Many
thousands of women were unable to enter, and gathered outside to hear
the proceedings over loudspeakers. The leaders of the women's labor
service and those of the League of German Girls took their places on
the platform, and the officials of the NS Women's League and the
German Women's Work filled the seats. To the side one could see
numerous representatives of German women's groups from abroad in
colorful and elaborate costumes. The farmers among the participants
also wore their beautiful traditional costumes. After a piece by the
Reich Symphony Orchestra, Hilgenfeldt opened the meeting and greeted
the participants and foreign guests in the name of the National
Women's Leader. The 20,000 women rose to sing "Our Fate was to be a
Free People."

Speech by Gertrud Scholz-Klink:

"The Soviet Union declared the legal equality of men and women in all
areas in a law of 18 November 1918. That meant the same right to work,
the same duty to support oneself, the right of control over one's own
body, which for the woman meant the right to abortion. The view was
that men and women had full freedom only when the state stayed as far
as possible form personal relationships. The state provided no legal
rights in marriage, which meant that there were only two forms of
marriage. One could register a marriage before a government office, or
one could be married without virtue of state ceremony.
The result was that, even when one had been married officially, the
individual partners had the right when they were unhappy to go to the
same office and, for a very small fee, dissolve the marriage. Should
there be children, they would be housed in collective homes, since
both father and mother worked and housing was in short supply, given
the migration from the countryside to the cities. The absence of
resources in such homes led of necessity to demanding money from the
economically stronger partner. The result was constant legal battles
and enormous misery for the children.
Simultaneously, women were increasingly absorbed in industry and the
military. In 1918, 24 of every 1000 miners were women. By 1932, 153 of
1000 were women, a number that had grown to 321 by 1935! In automobile
and tractor manufacturing, women are 30.4% of the work force, 63.5% of
the drilling industry.
The full equality of the sexes had the further result that girls are
given the same military training as boys in the communist youth
organization and schools. The Red Army is the only army in the world
in which both men and women are trained as soldiers and officers to
wage aggressive wars...
We Germans had 14 years under an attempt to impose Bolshevist
principles on us. The German woman took her place alongside the German
man when she realized that a struggle was going on between God's order
for earthly affairs and universal apostles of humanity who wanted to
replace these eternal laws. It was a battle between good and evil.
Good and evil are equally strong forces in life. They find visible
form in National Socialism and Bolshevism. National Socialism is good
become visible for we Germans. It respects the earth from which our
people have grown. Bolshevism is absolute evil because it is a
universal approach that rejects the eternal laws of nature. "Good" and
"evil" have never stood in such stark contrast before all the world as
they do today in these two forces...
Our work is to spread this idea. It is nothing other than a daily
struggle between these two forces. It is not ultimately a battle of
means or of money, that is of perishable things, rather it is ennobled
by the spirit in whose service we stand: In the battle between good
and evil, we are the obedient servants of the good."
Speech by Adolf Hitler:
Those abroad may say 'That is fine for the men! But your women cannot
be optimistic. They are oppressed and dominated and enslaved. You give
them no freedom of equality." We answer: What you see as a yoke others
see as a blessing. What is heaven to one is hell for another...
As long as we have sound men-and we National Socialists will see to
that-there will be no women throwing hand grenades in Germany, no
women sharp-shooters. That is not equality for women, rather their
debasement...
Women have boundless opportunities to work. For us the woman has
always been the loyal companion of the man in work and life. People
often tell me: You want to drive women out of the professions. No, I
only want to make it possible for her to found her own family and to
have children, for that is how she can best serve our people!...
If a woman jurist does the best possible work, but next to her lives a
woman who has given birth to five, six or seven healthy children who
are well educated, I would say the following: From the standpoint of
the eternal values of our people, the woman who has borne and raised
children has done more, given more, accomplished more for the future
of our people!...
Real leadership has the duty to enable every man and woman to fulfill
their dreams, or at least to make it easier for them to do so. We seek
this goal through laws that encourage the healthy education of
children. But we have done more than simply pass laws. We are
educating for German women and girls a manly youth, the men of
tomorrow!"
"I believe we have found the right way to educate a healthy youth. Let
me say this to all the literary know-it-alls and philosophers of
equality: (laughter) Do not deceive yourselves! There are two separate
arenas in the life of a nation": that of men and that of women. Nature
has rightly ordained that men head the family and are burdened with
the task of protecting their people, the community. The world of the
woman, when she is fortunate, is her family, her husband, her
children, her home. From there she can see the whole. The two arenas
together join to form a community that enables a people to survive. We
want to build a common world of both sexes in which each sees its own
tasks, tasks that it alone can do and therefore can and must do
alone."
"When I see this wonderful growing youth, my work becomes easy, I
overcome every weakness. Then I know why I do everything. It is not to
build some miserable business that will perish, rather this work is
for something lasting and eternal. A vital part of this future is the
German girl, the German woman, the German woman, and thus we meet the
girl, the woman, the mother."
"I do not measure the success of our work by our roads. I do not
measure it by our new factories, or our new bridges, or the new
divisions. Rather, I measure our success by the effect we have on the
German child, the German youth. If they succeed, I know our people
will not perish and our work will not have been in vain."
"I am convinced that no one understands our work better than the
German woman. (long-lasting, jubilant applause) Our opponents think
that Germany has tyrannized women. I can only reply that without the
support and true devotion of the women of the party, I could never
have led the movement to victory." (renewed enthusiastic applause)
The Reich Women's Leader thanked the Führer after the jubilation at
the end of his speech had calmed down. In the name of all German
women, she promised to work hard to ease his concerns. Not only the
Reich Women's Leader's words, but also the jubilation of the crowd
followed the Führer as he left the hall.

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Douglas Reed wrote:

"Germans in their country are not less well cared for than the
English in theirs, but better. You are faced with a country immensely
strong in arms and immensely strong in real wealth - not in gold bars
in a vault of the national bank, but industry, agriculture, the thrift
and energy of the work people, the conditions of life they enjoy.
Their engineers and social workers and artists go into the
factories and see what needs to be done. They say that a shower room,
recreation room, a restaurant, a medical clinic, a dental clinic is
needed and these are provided. They have a civic sense, a social
conscience, a feeling of the community of German mankind which you
lack."

About Douglas Reed:
"I have dealt with the once world famous foreign correspondent and
author, Douglas Reed, who went from being widely known and respected
before, during and after the II.nd World War to becoming an expelled
and completely forgotten person.
Why was he "forgotten"?
It was simply because he wrote about "The Jewish Question!"
International Jewry responded to his frank description of the problem
with total censorship, so that his new books could no longer be
printed and the old ones would disappear gradually from the bookstores
and even from the library shelves.
After a short period of slandering he was no longer mentioned at all
in the world's media.
As the author Ivor Benson (who has himself written a book on this
subject: The Zionist Factor) says in the foreword to Douglas Reeds
masterpiece The Controversy of Zion, which had to wait 22 years before
it could be published, "the adversity, which Reed encountered, would
have made a lesser personality give up. But not he"."
Knud Eriksen

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Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?":
"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:
"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"
The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.
Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.
National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:
A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."
"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.
Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."
"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."
"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.
The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.
The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.
The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.
More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."
The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.
This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.
Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).
The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.
Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."
The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.
There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."
Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."
"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.
112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).
The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.
The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.
4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.
In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.
Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):
"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."
Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."
"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.
Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.
In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."
"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."

"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"
Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."

"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.
These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."

"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:
1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of Göttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%
Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Schönere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:
"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."

Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."

"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:
Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (Jüdisch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."
Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."
The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.
Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."
The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."
World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"
They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"
The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.
The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."

Al Klein

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Elect? No. :)
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numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
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willow

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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
> On 29 Oct 2006 14:44:35 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
> wrote:

>
> >
> >Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass wrote:
> >> On 29 Oct 2006 11:43:56 -0800, swa...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Darius wrote:
> >> >> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> Catholic Church Nazi photos
> >> >>
> >> >> compiled by Jim Walker
> >> >> created: 20 May 1998
> >> >> additions: 13 May 2006
> >> >>
> >> ><snip> For photos and information see the first posting in this thread.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Growing up and becoming a member in a Christian group
> >> >does not necessarily make a person 'a Christian'.
> >>
> >> No True Scotsman Fallcy #1
> >>
> >> So just because Osama Bin Laden grew up and was Muslim doesn't mean
> >> he's a "Mulsim", right?
> >>
> >> >If he had understood the Christian faith correctly
> >> >he would have realised that Jesus Christ taught
> >> >that we are to love our enemies and to do good to others.
> >>
> >> No True Scotsman Fallacy #2
> >
> >And the biblical description of a true Christian is?
>
> Non sequitur. If you're going to define "Christians" in a way that
> excludes ALL Christians who did something bad, then you better extend
> the same logic to all other groups.

Oh, you can't backup your use of the No True Scotsman
Fallacy? Just throw that sucker out when it suits you.

panam...@hotmail.com

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Oct 30, 2006, 9:50:44 PM10/30/06
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Your ass is the bullshit factory, Bryan.

-PF

panam...@hotmail.com

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BAM wrote:
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
> > that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
> > attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
> > anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
> > from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.
>
> You don't know what you're talking about. You're a fool. You'll believe

> anything that supports your desires.

And you're a shit-licking revisionist fuck. Now you're going to say the
Holocaust never happened, right? Dumbass. Catholics should have to pay
extra taxes for all the remedial reading courses they need. A "Dumbass
Tax", as it were..

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 30 Oct 2006 17:50:33 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Oh look, a dishonest Christian trying to whitewach Christian atrocity.

Again, if you're going to excuse all the evil acts committed by
Christians by saying that they are not "true Christians", then you
better say the same thing about those "non-true communists" or those
"non-true Muslims"

But of course, you're too dishonest to do that.

willow

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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 30 Oct 2006 20:04:56 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Non-sequitur. Karl Marx's description of a "True Communist" is someone
who doesn't kill the workers. Unless you're willing to say that Stalin
wasn't a "true commuist", you are are simply being dishonest.

The Bush Iraq lie: -2813 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

BAM

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Oct 30, 2006, 11:40:59 PM10/30/06
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<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162263179.8...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

>
> BAM wrote:
>> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > All that crap from the "Table Talk" again? You still haven't discovered
>> > that Martin Bormann was behind that? Ironic seeing a Catholic
>> > attempting to benefit from the works of someone with such an
>> > anti-Catholic agenda. As for the quotes, I'll say I'd believe the ones
>> > from when he was sane to those made up for him when he was ill.
>>
>> You don't know what you're talking about. You're a fool. You'll believe
>> anything that supports your desires.
>
> And you're a shit-licking revisionist fuck. Now you're going to say the
> Holocaust never happened, right? Dumbass. Catholics should have to pay
> extra taxes for all the remedial reading courses they need. A "Dumbass
> Tax", as it were..

Fool.

BAM


panam...@hotmail.com

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Oct 31, 2006, 2:08:29 AM10/31/06
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Why don't you beat the rush at the assessors' office and pay that
Dumbass Tax now? On second thought, the assessors will probably open
branch offices at churches once the Dumbass Tax becomes law. Open that
wallet, Bryan! Your arse belongs to someone besides your priest now...

Topaz

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Oct 31, 2006, 7:58:42 PM10/31/06
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By Walter Ruthard

willow

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Oct 31, 2006, 8:54:44 PM10/31/06
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Feeble attempt to cloud the issue. And the biblical description of a
true Christian is?
>
>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>

cactus

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Topaz wrote:
> By Walter Ruthard
<snip more nazi propaganda from our local neonazi loser who can't write
anything original>

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 31 Oct 2006 17:54:44 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Oh look another dishonest Christian.

But I'll play your game, the Biblical "description" of a "true"
Christian is someone who owns slaves (Col 3:22), and who kills
non-Christians (Num 31:18)

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority.

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willow

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Nov 1, 2006, 6:53:25 PM11/1/06
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I knew you didn't know, and you know you don't know. But
if you have some more contortions you want to perform in
order to prove that you also don't know when to use the No
True Scotsman fallacy, knock yourself out.

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting Ass

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On 1 Nov 2006 15:53:25 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Oh look, another dishonest Christian who has no substantive argument

>But
>if you have some more contortions you want to perform in
>order to prove that you also don't know when to use the No
>True Scotsman fallacy, knock yourself out.

If you have any substantive argument why you were not engages in the
No-True Scotsman fallacy, go right ahead. Oops, you can't, you're just
another dishonet Christian liar.

===================================
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman

This form of argument is a fallacy if the predicate ("putting sugar on
porridge") is not actually contradictory for the accepted definition
of the subject ("Scotsman"), or if the definition of the subject is
silently adjusted after the fact to make the rebuttal work.
========================================

The biblical description does not preclude murder (Num 31:18), owning
of slaves (Col 3:22), Rape (Deu 22:28) and hatred (Lev 20:13). Sure,
there are passages in the Bible that say the exact opposite, but such
contradiction is your problem, not mine.

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Al Klein

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On 30 Oct 2006 17:50:33 -0800, "willow" <willo...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Oh, you can't backup your use of the No True Scotsman


>Fallacy? Just throw that sucker out when it suits you.

The NTS fallacy is claiming that someone isn't a True Christian - just
that claim, nothing else. It has nothing to do with what a True
Christian is, or whether there's any such thing as a True Christian -
it's YOU making the claim that someone else ISN'T a True Christian.


--
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Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes.
- Isaac Asimov

Al Klein

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Nov 1, 2006, 11:32:54 PM11/1/06
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On 29 Oct 2006 18:47:01 -0600, cob...@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:37:08 -0500, "BAM"
><mcca...@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:

>>You're a dum-dum.


>And you're projecting.

>You have to be one of the biggest idiots I've seen post here,
>including dumber than duke.

Duke is an idiot, Bryan is dishonest. The end result is the same, but
there's really a distinction. (Not a difference, just a distinction.)


--
rukbat at optonline dot net

"Christians tell us that they love their enemies, and yet all I ask
is - not that they love their friends even, but they treat those
who differ from them , with simple fairness. We do not wish to be
forgiven but we wish Christians to so act that we will not have
to forgive them."
- Robert Ingersoll

Al Klein

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:09:25 -0800, --sexkitten--
<jumpingbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>BAM wrote:
>> "--sexkitten--" <jumpingbe...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>
>>>>So of all the things Hitler said that you don't believe, you will believe
>>>>this one thing? Hitler spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He was a
>>>>liar.
>>>
>>>Thus making him an excellent Catholic. Proof positive for Yang. :)
>>
>>
>> Have any intelligent thoughts today alleycat?
>
>Lots. I'm still waiting for you to have your first, ever.

Bryan, think? No matter how young you are, you won't live that long.
Even if you're immortal.


--
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When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts

Al Klein

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On 30 Oct 2006 16:03:54 -0800, "Truth PLEASE!"
<comm...@hiv-aids-factorfraud.com> wrote:

>Then point is, what did we learn from it all? I hope we learned that
>these nationalistic dictators will use any common belief and twist it
>to perpetuate their agenda. GW Bush flattered his base of GOP Christian
>leaders exactly the way Hitler did, and the saps went along with it,
>despite being warned by their own prophets to stay away from the
>Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Rockefeller-funded cultists. (GH
>Bush Sr. was chairman of the CFR) These people, including W. Bush are
>satanists, with a New World Order agenda for a One World government
>with them in control of total power--- and us as slaves.

<snip a lot of theistic mumbo-jumbo>

Didn't your religion teach you that bearing false witness is a sin?
And having a name that's a lie? Double-sin.


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Topaz

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an interview with David Duke
by Kevin Alfred Strom

KAS: What was the reaction of the high-level people in Syria to your
visit?
David Duke: Extremely Positive. One of the most amazing aspects of
my visit was the reaction of the press. I'm used to an adversarial
press, of course, pretty much because of the influence of the Jewish
supremacists. In Syria I held a large press conference in a big
press tent in the middle of Damascus. There were probably a hundred
news people there from all over the Middle East, including about
twenty from the major national news media of the respective
countries. And this press conference was broadcast live in these
different countries. I got to explain about Jewish supremacism,
Jewish control of the American media, the attack on the U.S.S.
Liberty, and about how Israel actually made a terrorist attack
against America in the Lavon affair, which a lot of these people
aren't aware of.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5228 ]
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4783 ]
So, I said, America's been a victim of both Jewish terrorism and
Jewish occupation in many of the ways that they have, and they got
to hear about this. They also got to see and hear an American who
doesn't go along with Jewish supremacism. The Syrian Press
Association-which is the official press association for that
country and it has associates all over the Middle East-came out
with an article in which they said that David Duke is the best
ambassador from the American people ever to come to Syria and the
Mideast because he has made us realize that not all Americans
support the policies of Wolfowitz, Perle, and Bush. He has shown us
that not all Americans support the Zionist terror in Israel and that
there are many Americans who support us. They may not be a majority,
but they're being manipulated, just as the Zionists try to
manipulate us here.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5460 ]
That was interesting to me because I didn't count on the media being
so supportive. Again, I'm used to hostile media. The representatives
of the Middle Eastern media interviewed me for an hour and a half,
and there was not one negative question. There was no mention of my
KKK involvement of thirty years ago-just a discussion of the
critical issues at hand, and it was very positive all the way
through the interview.
KAS: In addition to Syria, I know that you've engaged in outreach to
other Middle Eastern countries in the past. I find it interesting
that you, a man who is characterized as a hater of non-Whites, were
speaking in a friendly way to non-White peoples and receiving an
excellent reception from them in their countries-although you
have expressed an opposition to Islamic and Middle Eastern
immigration to Europe, the United States, and other White areas. Did
they address that issue at all, and if so, how do they feel about
that?
DD: Let me tell you an interesting fact; this is something that's
important that all of your listeners hear. Every time I've gone to
the Middle East and done public appearances I've make one thing
clear. I've made sure there's no stone left unturned because Israel
has started a hate campaign against me, telling the Arabs, "Well,
David Duke is against all the non-White, non-European people, so you
should not welcome him; instead you should spit upon him."
One of the first things I tell these people is, "I want to make
something very clear at the outset. I am a person of European
descent and I live in the United States of America. I want to
preserve the ancestral homelands of my people for my people-both
Europe and America. I want to preserve our traditions and our ethnic
heritage and I'm opposed to any non-European immigration to our
countries-just as I know you would be opposed to Europeans coming
en masse to your countries, controlling your societies, and trying
to change your religious values, traditions, or culture. So, I want
to let you know that that's what I stand for. At the same time, I am
not in favor of America or any other European country opening up
bases all over the world, oppressing your people, or supporting
Israel. We are allies in a sense, in that we both have a common
problem in the extreme danger posed by Jewish supremacism and by the
extremists who control Israel and have so much influence in the
Western world. They are a threat to you and also to us in much the
same way, and we should stand united in our opposition to them.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=3663 ]
KAS: Well let's hope that there can be good will between different
peoples who want self-determination and feel no hostility toward
others who want the same thing.
DD: Well I think that there is such good will, and I certainly saw
it during my trip. The media in Damascus broadcast my interview and
my speech, which anybody can view on my Web site, davidduke.com.
That speech was aired on every news channel in Syria and just about
every Syrian saw it. After the broadcast, whenever I would walk in
the streets-of course, I'm pretty recognizable over there; I'm
tall and very European in appearance-everywhere I went people
would cheer for me and welcome me; it was amazing. So there is good
will now, and I hope that we can preserve it.
[ http://www.davidduke.com/ ]
There's a difference between a truly supremacist vision of life,
such as the Jews have, and what we want. We're not trying to hurt
other peoples or oppress them, and this message also helps our own
people to see the truth. When you talk to many White people about
preserving our heritage, our values, and our rights, and about
having their children grow up in a White society, they can go along
with that. They don't go along with the idea of murdering or
oppressing or exterminating other people, which, of course, is what
the Jewish media try to portray our movement as being all about.
That's why when our people act like the Hollywood stereotypes they
do a tremendous amount of damage to our cause. But when White people
see an individual who is active for White rights also befriending
people in the Middle East in a diplomatic sort of way, it basically
destroys the image that the Jewish media try to create of a "hater,"
or a "bigot"-of somebody who hates others. They realize that I am
a person just like themselves, and that the people of our cause are
decent individuals who are trying to preserve our heritage, but are
not trying to hurt other peoples.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5010 ]
KAS: I know that the reaction of the Jewish-controlled media here in
the West to your Syrian trip was very hostile-and they tried to
make it look like you were making anti-American speeches there.
DD: Right. In fact, I remember seeing that on CNN with Wolf Blitzer.
Wolf Blitzer-now here's a guy who's supposed to be an unbiased
newsman. He's actually a former activist for AIPAC, the American
Israel Public Affairs Committee-a group that is under
investigation right now for spying on the United States of America.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7091 ]
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8084 ]
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8085 ]
KAS: And one of the number one pro-war groups in this country.
DD: Exactly. And this is a guy who tells us about the Middle East
and tells us "David Duke blasts the U.S."? I didn't blast the U.S.
I blasted the Jewish supremacists who have subverted and hijacked
American foreign policy and led us to this disaster in the Middle
East, and I blasted the individual whom I believe has practically
committed treason against this country, George Bush.
When you send American boys into battle, you risk their lives and
they face losing their arms, their legs, their vision, and even
their ability to reproduce. When you send them into battle, you
don't send them to fight for a lie, and you don't send them to fight
for some other country's interests. You send them in only if America
and its well-being are truly threatened. And, of course, we've
learned that the reasons given for this war have been a lie. So I
see it as a great betrayal to send Americans into this war, which is
a war for Israel, rather than for American interests.
KAS: The Jewish "powers that be" have also tried to make some moves
against the university in Ukraine from which you recently earned
your doctorate. Can you tell us about that?
DD: Well, yes, that's true, and this is the first time I've talked
to your listeners since that happened. I've been quietly working
toward my doctoral degree for a long time. I made sure that every
"i" was dotted and every "t" was crossed in my studies at the
university. I took the required exams, did everything I had to do,
and defended my doctoral thesis-which had to do with the ethnic
supremacist aspect of Zionism-in the proper way before fifteen
academicians at the university. They were fifteen of the top
academicians not only at that school, but also in all of eastern
Europe. All of them were well educated and have been widely
published, not only in the academic community, but also in the
larger commercial market. And of course, I was awarded a doctorate.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=6035 ]
The Jewish extremists are pretty upset about that. They had to admit
that everything was done properly, but they still said I should be
in prison robes rather than doctoral robes, and they said the same
thing about the president of the university, Dr. Tchokin. In fact,
Israel has demanded that Dr. Tchokin not be allowed to run for
office in Ukraine. He started a new party there called the
Conservative Party. He's a very anti-Zionist voice, a very
pro-Ukrainian, nationalistic voice, and they demanded that he not be
allowed to run for office.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4669 ]
That's chutzpah, when a foreign country tells you that you can't
have democratic freedoms or rights in elections. Since that time
they have also have demanded that the university be shut down, and
that all of its degrees be revoked. Well, it's kind of hard to shut
down the university; it's the largest university in Ukraine. They
have about fifty thousand students there and a beautiful, sprawling
campus with fantastic buildings on a hill in the middle of Kiev.
More people in the Ukrainian government, more members of the
Ukrainian diplomatic corps, more of the people in their bureaucracy,
their scientific community, and the other professions in Ukraine
have been educated at this university than at any other university
in the country. All of a sudden, here are these extremist Jews
saying, "Revoke the degrees of all the students." That would mean
revoking literally hundreds of thousands of degrees that have been
earned by the leading citizens of the country. But that's how evil
and oppressive these extremists are.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=6036 ]
KAS: I understand that the university has held conferences on the
subject of Zionism. I have an article in front of me that says, "The
courageous university leadership"-it's called MAUP, which is a
Ukrainian acronym for Interregional Academy for Personnel Management
-- "said the United Nations should revoke its 1947 resolution on the
creation of a Jewish state. 'Mankind lived without the state of
Israel exactly 2,670 years, but after the second of its creation,
all the world feels a constant aggression,' they declared." So there
definitely is some conflict between the university and Zionist power
in the world.
DD: That statement was made in response to their efforts to shut
down the university and deny its President his rights. And, by the
way, my argument is not by any means for extermination of the Jewish
people. What I have said is simply that the Jewish people in Israel
can live as the other Jewish communities have historically lived
without bothering, oppressing, or imprisoning members of the Arab
community. I have no problem with Jews being in Israel; obviously
they have historically resided there. But I do have a problem with
them having created a state through terrorism, with their
terrorization of the Palestinian population, and with their jailing
and torturing of people by the tens of thousands over the years, and
with their fomenting of problems in other countries.
For instance, I truly believe that the Shi'ite-Sunni civil war now
looming in Iraq is the work of the Mossad. Only the Mossad would
bomb some of the holiest sites of Islam, and of course, the Israelis
seek this war. They destroyed the government of Saddam Hussein, but
in its place they now see something that they are beginning to view
as a big threat: a Shi'ite government that is very pro-Iran and a
refurbished, rebuilt Iraq, re-armed by America. They don't want this.
They want Iraq to be destabilized through civil war, so now they're
now trying to foment one. Now, before people begin saying, "David
Duke is loony again" or "He's just extreme. How can that be?," they
should remember that we know for a fact that Israel did precisely
the same thing in Lebanon. Moshe Sharett, the former Israeli Prime
Minister, talked about this. Israel purposely promoted bloodshed and
violence between the Christians and the Muslims in Lebanon in order
to foment civil war there. The reason why they hate Syria so much is
because Syrian forces came in-they were invited, by the way, by
the Lebanese government-and stopped the bloodshed among these
Lebanese people that had lived side-by-side for centuries. By the
way, although Syria is overwhelmingly Muslim, approximately four
million Christians, mostly of Greek descent-almost pure Greek
descent-also live there, and they and the Muslim population have
co-existed for centuries. Well, obviously it's in the interests of
the Jewish state to use the same old divide-and-conquer technique
that Stephen Steinlight has talked about. The Israelis want to see
their enemies fight each other, and I think that's what's why we see
what's going on in Iraq right now.
KAS: Did you not run an article on your website theorizing that
there was a Jewish element behind this Mohammed cartoon controversy
that began in Denmark and resulted in riots all around the world?
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8097 ]
DD: According to Wikipedia and other sources, Fleming Rose, the
person that launched the cartoon controversy is himself of direct
Ukrainian Jewish descent. We know for a fact that he is a very close
associate of Daniel Pipes, ones of the leading and most extreme
Jewish neo-cons, as pro-Israel and as supremacist as you could
possibly imagine. Rose stayed in Pipes' home in the United States of
America.
This affair is one more example of what they try to do, and it's
also what they're doing right now in our country. I think Israel
benefited a great deal from the 9-11 attacks, and I think that in
the long run, Israel wants these attacks. They want to escalate this
international conflict, they want World War IV.
And in the process, what does that do? Well, it again takes our
attention away from the vital domestic racial issues confronting us
in our country. It also gives them an opportunity to take away our
freedoms, because we find ourselves in a wartime public speech
scenario. So you see continued destruction of our basic
constitutional rights and liberties. Our Bill of Rights is falling
by the wayside a little more every day, and these international wars
that they're trying to foment are simply a disaster for us. We saw
the same thing in the Second World War. They got us into that war
through the back door, so to speak. For years they promoted war and
they tried to provoke a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in every way
they could. Our government engaged in many warlike acts against
Japan for the purpose of provoking this attack.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7110 ]
KAS: Well, if 9-11 was the Pearl Harbor of the Iraq war, do you
believe they will need another incident-another "Pearl Harbor"-
to bring on a war with Iran, which the neo-cons and the Zionists
clearly want?
DD: I don't know if they need an incident as big as 9-11, but they
do need continued pressure. They need for there to be more terrorist
acts in the West. I don't know if they themselves have to engage in
direct infiltration to promote these things or not, but I wouldn't
put anything past them.
They've done false flag operations before; it's a fact of history.
There's no denying the fact that Israel literally sent Jewish Mossad
agents to Egypt to blow up American installations, American movie
theaters, American restaurants, and American libraries. Luckily the
plot was thwarted because one of the bombs in a Jewish terrorist's
pocket blew up prematurely. So he was caught and made to talk, the
whole plot unraveled, and eventually the Israeli Defense Minister
Pinhas Lavon, had to resign. In that instance they tried to use
terrorism against America to get our country into a war against
another country-Egypt-that was innocent of any action against us.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5415 ]
If they had been successful, their scheme would have cost tens of
thousands of American lives and countless billions of dollars, and
would have caused the terrible injustice of war with a country that
had done nothing to harm us. And as you know, just recently, the
Israeli prime minister literally gave medals to-and praised as
heroes-these same Jewish terrorists who attacked the United
States of America, and yet there was almost no coverage of this
event in America's controlled media, and there was no outrage in the
United States Congress.
KAS: Virtually the only coverage came from the pro-White alternative
media. David, can you share with us your insight on the likelihood
of war with Iran? What insights do your Middle Eastern contacts give
you into the mind-set of the Iranians? What is Ahmadinejad looking
for and where is he going?
DD: I think Ahmadinejad is one of the most courageous, honest
overseas leaders, and I think he's smart enough to realize that
there's going to be a lot of problems for them, as well as for us,
unless Jewish extremist power in Europe and America is broken.
I did a lot of programs in the Middle East back in late October and
early November and I discussed how the Holocaust is being used as a
weapon. Of course, it was the primary weapon in the creation of
Israel and in the suppression of the Palestinian people, and there
are many revisionists who have legitimate questions about this
period of history. The Arab states and the Islamic world did well to
start challenging some of its claims. I talked about this to Nidal
Kabalan, who is Syria's leading journalist, and he later spoke with
the President of Iran. I think this may have something to do with
the statements that Ahmadinejad made just a few weeks later,
questioning different aspects of the Holocaust.
KAS: What do you think is the likelihood of war with Iran?
DD: Obviously the likelihood is high. The question is, how crazy are
these Jewish neo-cons? I think if they do launch an attack on Iran,
they'd much prefer it come from the United States rather than from
Israel, because they want to deflect their enemies from their own
country.
[ http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7739 ]
The Iraq war, after all, deflected a lot of bombers and terrorist
targets from Israel to America. If the crazies succeed, I think it
will be disastrous, ultimately, for international Zionism. Even if
we don't invade Iran, but instead bomb their nuclear sites, for
example, the Iranians will consider that an act of all-out war. They
have a very dedicated population three times as large as Iraq's.
They've already had 250,000 people sign up to be suicide bombers,
and these people are at the ready in a suicide brigade. Iran will
send its agents all over the Middle East and all over the world to
attack Americans. They not going to just sit back and take it.
This would be a disaster, and it would also disrupt the flow of oil.
We would very likely have $200-per-barrel oil, which would probably
lead to terrible economic depression in Europe and America. It would
probably bring on the most severe worldwide depression since the
1930s.
KAS: It seems crazy for people who are at the pinnacle of power-
that is, the Jewish supremacists right now in the West-to want to
shake things up so badly, just to protect their little Zionist
colony in Israel.
DD: Well, they're between a rock and a hard place, that's their
problem. They don't want Iran to eventually acquire nuclear weapons
and be on a par with Israel, but at the same time if they launch
this war it's going to result in disaster in all the countries of
the world, and that may cause them to lose their grip on the world.
So they have a very tough decision to make.
If the crazies prevail, I think it's going to be disastrous for the
United States and disastrous for the world. However, if the cooler
heads among the Zionists prevail, they'll try to use other means-
like subversion-to take care of the problem. They may try to
cause a civil war in Iran, or foment a coup d'état there. They're
very good at that kind of thing, you know. They've been practicing
and working at it for years and I'm sure that they have people
planted in the government of Iran and in many other governments as
well; this is their forte. In that case, we won't have war; and
since the Jews have tended to learn from history, at this point I
think that the cooler heads will prevail. There's just too much risk
for them in the other scenario.
KAS: Well, whatever the case, we must continue to work to educate
our people and to work for our own self-determination. Along those
same lines, you and I were in Washington, D.C. earlier this week at
the National Archives and we stood with our hands literally within a
couple of inches of the founding document of the United States, the
Constitution. What were your thoughts on that occasion?
DD: Well, I've seen them before, and I've been that close to them
before, but every time in my life that I've seen them they've made a
deep impression on me.
Our Founding Fathers were such brilliant men, and they were also
courageous men. They stood up against the strongest power in the
world at the time. They stood on principle, and they sacrificed.
Most who participated in the American Revolution died paupers.
It amazes me that the same issues exist today, except that they are
perhaps even more serious. For instance, our country was founded on
the principle of independence, on the idea that as a nation and a
culture we have a right to a government dedicated to "ourselves and
to our posterity." We have a right to our independence, to be free
of control by any foreign people. The people of the United States
then, of course, had been controlled by the British, who are
basically our people. Most of the American people then were of
British descent. But we still felt that we had our own life here in
America, we had the right to run our own affairs and to have those
affairs determined by what's good for our people here.
Of course, today we have a situation in which a foreign nation that
is absolutely opposed to the fundamental precepts of what America is
all about, to what our forefathers believed in, and to our values,
is in control of our mass media and in control of many aspects of
our government-certainly of our foreign policy. That makes it
contemporary for me.
And the principles of our Declaration of Independence apply to other
nations as well. They apply to the Iraqis, who have a right to their
independence under Saddam Hussein or whomever else they may choose
as their leaders. They apply to Iran and to Syria, to Israel, and to
any other country. For us to try to make things otherwise is a
terrible mistake; it gets us involved in these foreign conflicts.
Secondly, seeing these documents and the Constitution of the United
States again, I'm reminded of the founding of our country and how
much it's been subverted since those days. As we all know, the
Preamble to the Constitution of the United States says very clearly
that these principles are for "ourselves and our posterity." That's
our posterity. These men were talking about their own posterity. And
of course, whether or not our posterity will survive is in question.
We're being ethnically cleansed in our own country. Through the
differential birthrate, racial mixing, and massive immigration we
are literally becoming fewer and fewer in number and eventually
we'll be completely under the control-political, social,
economic, and cultural-of people who are not of our kind.
I also looked at the Bill of Rights while we were there, and
remembered that one of the very first laws that the framers of our
Constitution wrote limited immigration to the United States to
people of European heritage. So we know what this country was
founded on, and even though the media always call people like you
and me "un-American," we know that we are the authentic Americans.
One final thing I thought of when I considered how our country has
been subverted again, were the remarks that Mr. Neal Gabler made in
a documentary about Jewish media control (I quote him in my book
Jewish Supremacism). In that documentary he said, in approximately
these words, that the eastern European Jews who came to America-
people who were not allowed in many precincts of the old America-
literally changed America through control of our media-changed it
to their point of view, to their values, and to their issues.
He's Jewish himself, and his own words were "they devoured the old
America." In its place they created a new America of their own
design, in which they were the leaders; and he said that the Jews
subverted the values of this country in many of whose precincts they
formerly hadn't even been allowed.
Well, in my group, EURO, and in your group, National Vanguard, we
have a task. In our Web sites and our writings, and in our work, we
have an absolutely vital task ahead of us. We must get back control
over our own country, over our culture, our press, our media, and
truthfully, over our very hearts and souls.
Each of us has an individual battle in that way because all of us
are touched and affected by this virus that is among us-this
destructive, negative culture that the Jews have dumped upon us. We
must struggle to regain control of our lives, our heritage, and
eventually our country and our media, and unless we do this, unless
we have the courage and we acquire the ability and the knowledge to
regain control, unless we have the passion and the love that it's
going to take-it takes great love to make great sacrifices-we
will be lost forever and all the tears and dreams of our forefathers
will have been in vain. That's our task. I am committed, I am
dedicated to that task, and I believe that you are too.
KAS: Well, David, on the façade of the National Archives building,
which is a beautiful, almost Olympian structure in federal
Washington, are graven some words which I will quote, "The Heritage
of the Past is the Seed that Brings Forth the Harvest of the
Future." I want to thank you for working for the preservation and
the advancement of that precious heritage over these many years and
I want to thank you for your work as an ambassador for peace from
our people to the other peoples of the world. I look forward to your
work this year and in the decades to come, and I also want to thank
you for being a guest again on American Dissident Voices.
DD: Thank you, Kevin, and I look forward to being with you again soon.

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